How would the forum feel/react if Casinos were banned like Mixers?

[robelneo]

How will the forum feel? I probably don't know. Does the forum have feelings?
 
How will members react to that? I can only answer for myself.
 
What will be the positive outcome?
It will result in the forum being more boring than a lot of members have already pictured it to be due to a lack of high-paying campaigns. Some members are no longer as active and productive as they used to be.

The admin would have banned it long ago if the casinos were illegal and there had been a government restriction on places where they could advertise the platform.

The forum is the community, so with a huge number of participants in the casino campaign, there will be a drastic drop in activity. For me, I will continue to post out of habit. I have been doing this for ten years, and it is something you can get out of your system easily. I can only speak for myself; I don't know about the others.

There will be activity about Bitcoin because this is one of the best places to get news about Bitcoin

 

[Filippo Spina]

Only hypothetically speaking, because that would literally never happen in a million years.

This forum is for Bitcoin discussion initially then its purposes and discussions expand to altcoins, other services include casinos. The forum will lose traffics but will not die if casinos will be banned and no longer appear here in Announcement threads or signature campaigns.

The forum is not only about casinos and signature campaigns.

History of signature campaigns

• Signature campaign: The lowest and highest payment BTC and USD in 2013-2022
• History - signature campaigns and bounties on Bitcointalk
• EVOLUTION OF SIGNATURE AD CAMPAIGNS (BEGINNING DAYS TO THE PRESENT)

CTRL + F on the evolution of signature ad campaigns (beginning days to the present)

"Casino"

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[Faisal2202]

Title.

Only hypothetically speaking, because that would literally never happen in a million years.

Right?

Nah, I don't think it will happen in a million years, but casinos are not a tool for privacy so governments will not go after it. Therefore I can say they might leave this sector alone unless some bad activities start to happen, like many people are able to launder money from casinos, and from these digital casinos as well. If this bad activity will increase over time then governments or relevant authorities will definitely take proper actions.

And if those actions taken more seriously then the admin might also consider to ban there advertisement as well, so if that happens, what next. I think members here don't have a choice on this decision, as member were not able to convince when obfuscating platform were banned, and they might not be able to do anything when these casinos will be banned as well. I hope new type of narrative will be introduced till then, like AI platforms.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Title.

Only hypothetically speaking, because that would literally never happen in a million years.

Right?

Unless casinos decide to stop their promotion on this forum, I don't think they can get banned because they don't exhibit the characteristics of what the forum rules kick against. There's a saying that nothing is actually impossible, so if by chance casino is banned on the forum, there will definitely be a decline in the number of activities in the gambling section of the forum because there are also many members who are lovers of gambling on the forum and they love gambling discussions a lot.

[Sandra_hakeem]

it is pretty much a decent business because a lot of btc was hodl.

So when and how does theymos exit?

Maybe that should be a discussed topic for the future.

Theymos is beginning to tire. Do y'all think he's not been thinking of what the next 5 years would look like? Cus what in the world is stopping him from the completion of the new ecosystem? Resources? That can't be!
On the other hand, critics aren't kept grounded for whatever proposal they'd make against Bitcoin as long as the forum stays...why? Bitcointalk alone has made an impact that is believed to enlightened atleast 1/3 of bitcoiners (excluding cyber theft aged or retired persons)

There will be plenty of reactions
- a lot of members will suddenly go MIA

Can we accertain that most high ranking members today would stay? ^{it's not about using some "pronouns"}
I feel like we would have nothing left to discuss and, if it ever happens, I'll just focus on the WO thread for periodic updates and postings... The rest of the boards would have lesser activities.

[Ultegra134]

I don't intend to pry, but you registered on May 7th, and yet you're discussing something that occurred almost 6 months ago when you weren't even registered and haven't experienced yourself. I'm not implying that this is an alt account, but I wouldn't be surprised because it does look a little suspicious.

Anyway, to answer your question, it's unlikely that a casino ban would ever take place, unless there's a ban on cryptocurrency casinos by the U.S. government (where this forum is registered, if I remember correctly), which would result in Theymos possibly getting in trouble for endorsing such services. However, this scenario currently sounds way too far-fetched.

[Mr.suevie]

Title.

Only hypothetically speaking, because that would literally never happen in a million years.

Right?

Nah, I don't think it will happen in a million years, but casinos are not a tool for privacy so governments will not go after it. Therefore I can say they might leave this sector alone unless some bad activities start to happen, like many people are able to launder money from casinos, and from these digital casinos as well. If this bad activity will increase over time then governments or relevant authorities will definitely take proper actions.

And if those actions taken more seriously then the admin might also consider to ban there advertisement as well, so if that happens, what next. I think members here don't have a choice on this decision, as member were not able to convince when obfuscating platform were banned, and they might not be able to do anything when these casinos will be banned as well. I hope new type of narrative will be introduced till then, like AI platforms.

Well the one and only reasons why mixers were banned was because of their ability to be used as Money laundering website and I don't see that happening with casinos anyway time although in my local casino I play with, there is one rule that regulates all deposit to all casino to be played or gamble with before ever initiating withdrawal and this act covers any form of the casino to be used as a money laundering means, although am not too certain about this rule with crypto casino.
But one thing is certain though which is that when eventually anything causes theymos to actually end the advertising of casino in the forum activities will drastically reduce and that's a fact because it also happened when mixers were banned.

[Cryptomultiplier]

I don't intend to pry, but you registered on May 7th, and yet you're discussing something that occurred almost 6 months ago when you weren't even registered and haven't experienced yourself. I'm not implying that this is an alt account, but I wouldn't be surprised because it does look a little suspicious.

Anyway, to answer your question, it's unlikely that a casino ban would ever take place, unless there's a ban on cryptocurrency casinos by the U.S. government (where this forum is registered, if I remember correctly), which would result in Theymos possibly getting in trouble for endorsing such services. However, this scenario currently sounds way too far-fetched.

It's way too far-fetched indeed and I know that there's a solid distinction between casinos and mixers if we are to even consider what would be the reason for such a ban in the first place.
Casinos offer gambling services and helps relax freyed nerves or act as a source of entertainment for the customers. Also I think casinos have regulations they abide by of which the government checks and tax regularly.

Mixrs on the other hand has been the sole tool for money laundering schemes as reported by the Feds, mostly as it regards cryptocurrencies and the decentralized space that the government neither has proper regulations over nor controls fully.

Banning casinos here will surely reduce engagement in the gambling section. We will also experience reduced advertising and signature campaigns and of course it will make this community/forum become more focused on all things cryptocurrency and altcoins.

[wxa7115]

Title.

Only hypothetically speaking, because that would literally never happen in a million years.

Right?

But if you do not think there is any chance for this to happen, and you bring no scenario or reason which could motivate theymos to do this, then there is not much we can discuss about it.

[NotATether]

It would look like this:

https://x.com/search?q=duckduckgo&src=typed_query&f=live

Nothing is totally impossible to happen. If it can be conceived, it can happen. With the recent exit of Bestchange, it can be seen that more than 97% of campaigns here are casinos. So, if casino campaigns are banned, that's actually the end of signature campaign in the forum.

But BestChange was not forced out of the forum, they decided to end their signature campaign for advertising reasons and they still have an ANN thread here. People tend to forget that this kind of thing happens frequently with all sorts of services when they run a signature campaign, whether it is not working out for them or whether it is successful.

[Justbillywitt]

Title.

Only hypothetically speaking, because that would literally never happen in a million years.

Right?

Unless casinos decide to stop their promotion on this forum, I don't think they can get banned because they don't exhibit the characteristics of what the forum rules kick against. There's a saying that nothing is actually impossible, so if by chance casino is banned on the forum, there will definitely be a decline in the number of activities in the gambling section of the forum because there are also many members who are lovers of gambling on the forum and they love gambling discussions a lot.

To add to what you what you are saying,  if it ever happens that the casinos are banned from the forum, those that are mostly interested in gambling discussion, will leave the forum, even if they don't leave outrightly, they will start losing interest in the forum and won't be very active here again. Just imagine the level of traffic that the gambling section of this forum generates, with casino off it will result in the loss of such traffic. I don't even wish for such day to come. Anything that will make government to go after casinos should not ever happen, because if it does it result to many things in the lager society. Many people will run mad if they are unable gamble a day or weeks.

[Rruchi man]

Nothing is totally impossible to happen. If it can be conceived, it can happen. With the recent exit of Bestchange, it can be seen that more than 97% of campaigns here are casinos. So, if casino campaigns are banned, that's actually the end of signature campaign in the forum.

But BestChange was not forced out of the forum, they decided to end their signature campaign for advertising reasons and they still have an ANN thread here. People tend to forget that this kind of thing happens frequently with all sorts of services when they run a signature campaign, whether it is not working out for them or whether it is successful.

If I was asked to vote on which I think was most likely to happen between casinos ending the advertisement and promotion in Bitcointalk for personal reasons, and then Theymos banning Casinos, I would go with casinos just ending their promotion here just like bestchange did because with the AML rule guiding casinos, It will be difficult for them to have issues regarding money laundering that will make the government go after them.

Maybe Bestchange ended their campaign here because of financial reason like to cut cost, Casino's can choose to do that as well, also if they don't see the campaign as productive to their marketing.

[yahoo62278]

Look at all the signature campaigns active on the forum. 90% are casinos once the mixers were banned. You take away the casinos from this forum and you kill the forum. There might be 100 users that stay active who deal with technical issues or have been here since the beginning, but overall traffic drops to nearly 0 and this forum becomes mostly irrelevant.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

If I were in my fifties and was theymos know the forum funds are over 1,000,000 I may consider ending the forum .

I don't know about ending the forum, but he might want to consider who he'd hand over the reins to should he want to end his involvement with it or if something should happen to him.  My guess is that he's pretty well-off and has been for quite some time--and yet he still seems passionate about (or at least very involved with) bitcointalk--so I don't think he's in this for the money primarily.

Anyway, I can see why mixers were banned even if I don't like it.  Crypto casinos have yet to be called vehicles for terrorists, money launderers, or what have you by the government....but that doesn't mean it's always going to be that way.  Should they get banned like mixers, that would just suck because it'd be another knock against freedom courtesy of whatever government agency put pressure on Theymos (or his successor) to enact that change.  Whether you're a gambler or are against gambling for whatever reason, people ought to be free to make choices for themselves.  You know, just like out in the real world where there are tons of massive casinos that governments make a lot of tax revenue from.

[LoyceV]

I don't think he's in this for the money primarily.

Confirmed:

I don't care about making money from the forum personally.

[shield132]

Title.

Only hypothetically speaking, because that would literally never happen in a million years.

Right?

This forum will lose traffic and active users. Look at other forums, is there any other Bitcoin or altcoins forum as popular as Bitcointalk? No, there isn't. Will Bitcoin enthusiasts come to this forum, create threads, make posts and answer questions? Sure, there are people who will do that but in terms of activity, this forum will become very inactive compared to its current state. There is a reason theymos lets signature campaigns on this forum and also there is a reason why Roger Ver wanted signature campaigns on his forum too.

But BestChange was not forced out of the forum, they decided to end their signature campaign for advertising reasons and they still have an ANN thread here. People tend to forget that this kind of thing happens frequently with all sorts of services when they run a signature campaign, whether it is not working out for them or whether it is successful.

Yeah, they were running a signature campaign for 226 weeks, they did the advertising plan perfectly, they increased their brand awareness, and they got all the possible traffic from Bitcointalk during those weeks.

[Faisal2202]

But one thing is certain though which is that when eventually anything causes theymos to actually end the advertising of casino in the forum activities will drastically reduce and that's a fact because it also happened when mixers were banned.

So you clearly don't know how can you launder money in gambling, although I am not an expert too, but from what I understand is gambling platforms can also provide you anonymity, for example, if they don't require your identification, you are free to open an account, deposit money, gamble it, you even lose some in the process or make more money. The thing is, with your dirty money, you buy chips or tickets, and they use those tickets to gamble and to make money.

So whatever money you come up with at the end is the one said to be clean one, so if you will withdraw it, your money is not more dirty. Now the thing is how casinos can stop this, I mean if they don't want to stop it, then that's another thing, just like for many obfuscating platforms, the team doesn't want their platforms to be used for money laundering. But if they want to stop it then how would they do it, every casino has its own system.

I mean they make it their base for advertisement, there aree legal and illegal casinos, I am not against the ones being advertised here, but trying to say, Money laundering is possible via casino read this More than 11 million euros seized and man arrested in investigation into gambling platform scam I do agree with you that if gambling platforms will be banned then the traffic here will decrease and on ALTT it will increase.

[EarnOnVictor]

It started as a hypothetical question and it should die as such, because if casinos are banned from this forum, then you should forget the monetisation aspect of this forum which drives more traffic as far as I am concerned. We do not need a seer to know that casinos are now driving that aspect on the forum.

Needless to say, the ban of m!xers can't be without a serious reason, and this forum is one of the kind that is so liberal and gives people a high degree of respect for one's opinion and also looks away when some users questions the admin in some sort of a crude way and still gets away with it. The fact that such a tolerant and accommodating forum banned m!xers should speak volumes to the wise, as the issue was bitting and I understand theymos plight, he never wanted the forum to be dragged with such infamous illegality that is rampant with them.

This is understandable. But why on earth would casinos be banned? That is just unspeakable as they are doing their legal business, and even if a certain casino is alleged or caught with illegality (like Binance), that can't speak for all of them like m!xers as the modality of their business is not like that of m!xer which often makes people conceive this kind of mind/thought.

[Majestic-milf]

 Obviously the forum will lose its appeal because truth be told, the major reason this place is getting it's traffic is for the sig campaigns and the bounties and if these casinos get banned, what the heck? You might as well say "only admins can access this place". It's rare for peeps who aren't in campaigns to be as active as one who is and then you ban the casinos? .
Some will say change is constant and we'd get accustomed to life without casinos( that's if it happens), well I doubt people will recover. Of anything, they will think Theymos is no longer interested in monetisation and probably wants to use it for something else.
 Well I know this is just a "maybe" question to get the opinions/ thoughts of other users but I really don't understand why this should even be thought of by the Op...take such musings off of your head..

[SamReomo]

Only hypothetically speaking, because that would literally never happen in a million years.

Do you believe that Bitcointalk will survive million years? If you think it will survive million years then you might have to get some treatment.

When it comes to casinos then it's possible that one day they may also get banned on this forum if new rules and regulations take place and government and other centralized organizations fully oppose the online casinos and start strict actions against those.

But, if I'm not wrong then at current times we should not worry about that because the casinos haven't done anything that would make those organizations to take any actions against them. That's why we should not even think about something like that.