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June 23, 2024, 05:03:37 AM
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We talk a lot about responsibility, right? We ignore the harsh reality of gambling and focus on the promise of fast money. Borrowing to gamble? That's stupid and a psychological downward spiral. Debt and adrenaline are enslaving you while you chase a high

Borrowed dollars are weights that dig you deeper into debt. Your creditors now rule. Not just money, but your damned freedom

Budget for gambling like Netflix, not to get rich quick. Absolutely set limits and goals. Walk away after hitting your aim. This makes gambling a safer pastime. Reversing the script and utilising discipline to make gambling a hobby, not an addiction

The act of borrowing money to gamble is indeed a stupid act, because apart from making life difficult, it will also put pressure on our mental and psychological aspects which can also be affected, possibly causing stress because there are loans that must be repaid, whereas if we gamble, it is likely that it will only making them continue to gamble will not care about anything else other than just wanting to gamble. this is the importance of responsibility in gambling, if we gamble responsibly everything will be fine, it's just that very few people actually gamble responsibly, because most gamblers are those who do it irresponsibly so that the impact His gambling addiction can spread to other people besides himself.

I agree with what you say, indeed if we gamble well with strictly set limits, of course we can prevent big risk actions. We have to be able to think about the impact or side of gambling so as not to just think about winning, because many people who gamble only think about winning, so it puts them in an addiction that can affect their finances in the future. tips must be able to stop when the gambling carried out has ended or produced results. Gambling is entertainment so this is not bad for society if it is done within reasonable limits.

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June 23, 2024, 10:22:33 AM
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That's right, and the average person who is acutely addicted to anything will affect his environment and even society, no matter gambling for pleasure or profit, if indeed someone is in addiction they will always have a great influence on him on society, as well as playing games, or cigarettes or anything, especially gambling which is very close to finance, even though they can play on a demo account they feel they have no sensation and they only need money to gamble.

I saw a person who was willing to steal just because he wanted to get money to gamble, and it did not happen once or twice in my neighborhood, quite sad and detrimental to the surrounding community.
Indeed, with those who are addicted, other people around them may be affected by the bad effects of gambling suffered by the addict. such as a relationship where the addict may borrow money and that will usually make other people uncomfortable with the behavior of the perpetrator who certainly doesn't borrow money once, but even so the perpetrator will not really care about what other people affected by it feel, because the perpetrator will only focus on their desire, namely gambling again even though they have run out of money, but they can do anything to make their desire come true.
of course gambling really involves money, because money is the main thing in gambling where if we have money we can do it but if we don't have money we won't be able to do it, unfortunately those who no longer have money and are addicted often do anything to be able to do it. gambling again, either borrowing or selling his personal property. Of course this is not good, therefore in my opinion gambling is bad for society but not completely, because the main fault lies with the players.

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June 23, 2024, 10:55:02 AM
 #503

We talk a lot about responsibility, right? We ignore the harsh reality of gambling and focus on the promise of fast money. Borrowing to gamble? That's stupid and a psychological downward spiral. Debt and adrenaline are enslaving you while you chase a high

Borrowed dollars are weights that dig you deeper into debt. Your creditors now rule. Not just money, but your damned freedom

Budget for gambling like Netflix, not to get rich quick. Absolutely set limits and goals. Walk away after hitting your aim. This makes gambling a safer pastime. Reversing the script and utilising discipline to make gambling a hobby, not an addiction

The act of borrowing money to gamble is indeed a stupid act, because apart from making life difficult, it will also put pressure on our mental and psychological aspects which can also be affected, possibly causing stress because there are loans that must be repaid, whereas if we gamble, it is likely that it will only making them continue to gamble will not care about anything else other than just wanting to gamble. this is the importance of responsibility in gambling, if we gamble responsibly everything will be fine, it's just that very few people actually gamble responsibly, because most gamblers are those who do it irresponsibly so that the impact His gambling addiction can spread to other people besides himself.

I agree with what you say, indeed if we gamble well with strictly set limits, of course we can prevent big risk actions. We have to be able to think about the impact or side of gambling so as not to just think about winning, because many people who gamble only think about winning, so it puts them in an addiction that can affect their finances in the future. tips must be able to stop when the gambling carried out has ended or produced results. Gambling is entertainment so this is not bad for society if it is done within reasonable limits.

This is what is meant by saying that we should gamble as responsible players in any casino we enter. We should not just enter money without even knowing what rules it has. So the regret always comes last because others forget to teach this habit to a gambler, who should instead make it a habit.

But for those who are addicted to gambling, I don't think it is important to them because what is important to them is to be able to play and win a lot of money. But for those who are not addicts or don't have addictions, we are supposed to really like this.



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June 23, 2024, 03:17:17 PM
 #504

We talk a lot about responsibility, right? We ignore the harsh reality of gambling and focus on the promise of fast money. Borrowing to gamble? That's stupid and a psychological downward spiral. Debt and adrenaline are enslaving you while you chase a high

Borrowed dollars are weights that dig you deeper into debt. Your creditors now rule. Not just money, but your damned freedom

Budget for gambling like Netflix, not to get rich quick. Absolutely set limits and goals. Walk away after hitting your aim. This makes gambling a safer pastime. Reversing the script and utilising discipline to make gambling a hobby, not an addiction

The act of borrowing money to gamble is indeed a stupid act, because apart from making life difficult, it will also put pressure on our mental and psychological aspects which can also be affected, possibly causing stress because there are loans that must be repaid, whereas if we gamble, it is likely that it will only making them continue to gamble will not care about anything else other than just wanting to gamble. this is the importance of responsibility in gambling, if we gamble responsibly everything will be fine, it's just that very few people actually gamble responsibly, because most gamblers are those who do it irresponsibly so that the impact His gambling addiction can spread to other people besides himself.

I agree with what you say, indeed if we gamble well with strictly set limits, of course we can prevent big risk actions. We have to be able to think about the impact or side of gambling so as not to just think about winning, because many people who gamble only think about winning, so it puts them in an addiction that can affect their finances in the future. tips must be able to stop when the gambling carried out has ended or produced results. Gambling is entertainment so this is not bad for society if it is done within reasonable limits.

This is what is meant by saying that we should gamble as responsible players in any casino we enter. We should not just enter money without even knowing what rules it has. So the regret always comes last because others forget to teach this habit to a gambler, who should instead make it a habit.

But for those who are addicted to gambling, I don't think it is important to them because what is important to them is to be able to play and win a lot of money. But for those who are not addicts or don't have addictions, we are supposed to really like this.


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June 23, 2024, 03:23:35 PM
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It's not just gamblers who fall into the credit trap. Banks and governments of many countries benefit from a population that is heavily indebted. Such a population is easier to manage. It is necessary to be smarter and take credit only for purposes that are not feasible without borrowed money, such as education and buying your own home instead of renting an apartment. The one who gambles with credit money is most likely just a fool, and such a person will find problems even on a desert island.

True, for a gambler the loan has a negative impact but for the government or local banks in a country then yes it is an advantage for them because there will certainly be interest involved in the amount of debt borrowed by gamblers, meaning that indirectly the act of borrowing money to gamble is the same as you enrich casinos and local banks.

Actually, there is no problem with the name loan because after all the loan is something that is often used by most people with the aim of making their affairs easier or to overcome problems that occur urgently, meaning that loans only make sense to do when you experience an event that is really urgent whatever the case, while there is no compulsion for anyone to always gamble, meaning of course I would also say as you say that people who make gambling an alternative to financing their gambling habits are stupid.

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June 23, 2024, 03:29:19 PM
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That's right, and the average person who is acutely addicted to anything will affect his environment and even society, no matter gambling for pleasure or profit, if indeed someone is in addiction they will always have a great influence on him on society, as well as playing games, or cigarettes or anything, especially gambling which is very close to finance, even though they can play on a demo account they feel they have no sensation and they only need money to gamble.

I saw a person who was willing to steal just because he wanted to get money to gamble, and it did not happen once or twice in my neighborhood, quite sad and detrimental to the surrounding community.
Indeed, with those who are addicted, other people around them may be affected by the bad effects of gambling suffered by the addict. such as a relationship where the addict may borrow money and that will usually make other people uncomfortable with the behavior of the perpetrator who certainly doesn't borrow money once, but even so the perpetrator will not really care about what other people affected by it feel, because the perpetrator will only focus on their desire, namely gambling again even though they have run out of money, but they can do anything to make their desire come true.
of course gambling really involves money, because money is the main thing in gambling where if we have money we can do it but if we don't have money we won't be able to do it, unfortunately those who no longer have money and are addicted often do anything to be able to do it. gambling again, either borrowing or selling his personal property. Of course this is not good, therefore in my opinion gambling is bad for society but not completely, because the main fault lies with the players.
If looking for the wrong one is indeed the culprit, namely the gambler, he is responsible for whatever decisions he makes, even with controlling his emotions, finances and other ha there is no one who can help him except himself, including his behavior towards the people around him.

Ha like this should be realized by the perpetrators of gambling, but unfortunately people who are addicted to excess they turn a deaf ear and ignore anything and that's the reason why addicts will be claimed as a bad influence on society, people like this must come to the point where he can't do anything else and realize that he must make changes in his life to live better.

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June 23, 2024, 03:36:56 PM
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I agree with what you say, indeed if we gamble well with strictly set limits, of course we can prevent big risk actions. We have to be able to think about the impact or side of gambling so as not to just think about winning, because many people who gamble only think about winning, so it puts them in an addiction that can affect their finances in the future. tips must be able to stop when the gambling carried out has ended or produced results. Gambling is entertainment so this is not bad for society if it is done within reasonable limits.
Thats just our perspective as gamblers and indeed i personally would agree as long as you don't do things that are out of bounds about your readiness in gambling and the money spent does not make your financial condition (your primary needs) disturbed then it will not be a problem for ourselves but of course in terms of stigma we still can't close the fact that gambling or people who gamble will be considered as negative people and still considered as someone bad.

This stigma will continue to exist even though it is not a problem for those who don't really care what other people say but things like this will not be the same for everyone because the treatment of gamblers will be slightly differentiated and not a little discrimination like this happens in our environment today.
I personally still do gambling but as much as possible I keep my gambling activities a secret so that other people don't know about it because I don't mean to be naive but this is for the sake of the continuity of the social life that I have now because rather than having an impact on the discrimination that does occur, it is better for me to keep gambling in secret and without anyone knowing except maybe the closest people.

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June 23, 2024, 03:55:43 PM
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Every player should have enough knowledge about where they invest their precious assets to gain or lose. Every step here is very important. Therefore, it is complicated to win this game without prior knowledge.

People who have become addicted to gambling in excess can never win at gambling. Every resource is valuable to every human being. Instead of losing wealth and becoming a beggar on the road, one should invest by gaining sufficient knowledge before investing.

Knowledge is important in gambling because with a valuable information, a gambler wouldn't make mistakes concerning their gambling activities. Those who get into trouble while gambling are always ignorant of responsible gambling. The ignorant players actually are the ones who bring in bad publicity to the society regarding gambling. This should also encourage the distribution of responsible gambling knowledge. That's if the society wants to reduce the rate at which people get addicted and destroy the life of their loved ones. Communicating with gamblers about the need to stay responsible and limit how they gamble, will help the new players to have prior knowledge on the game before doing deeply into gambling.

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June 23, 2024, 04:08:03 PM
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Every player should have enough knowledge about where they invest their precious assets to gain or lose. Every step here is very important. Therefore, it is complicated to win this game without prior knowledge.

People who have become addicted to gambling in excess can never win at gambling. Every resource is valuable to every human being. Instead of losing wealth and becoming a beggar on the road, one should invest by gaining sufficient knowledge before investing.

What kind of knowledge do you mean in this case? Is it a way or method that leads to the goal of achieving victory? I hope you can explain it in more detail, and maybe I will say according to my assumption in this case that in gambling there is no way that can lead you to victory, or what I mean is that there is no way that can guarantee you to win in the end. session, meaning any form of action, if the action is carried out with the aim of winning then there is very little chance of success because after all gambling always runs randomly, but if what you mean is a type of sports game where the chance of winning can be increased by applying skills and knowledge about the advantages of a team then yes that is quite true.

I would also say that the knowledge that gamblers must have is knowledge about how gambling actually works, or meaning what must be prioritized is understanding gambling properly, in the sense of understanding that gambling is a game of probability that depends on luck which is where This understanding can be used as a basis for not making decisions that are beyond their capabilities.

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June 23, 2024, 05:07:05 PM
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Every player should have enough knowledge about where they invest their precious assets to gain or lose. Every step here is very important. Therefore, it is complicated to win this game without prior knowledge.

People who have become addicted to gambling in excess can never win at gambling. Every resource is valuable to every human being. Instead of losing wealth and becoming a beggar on the road, one should invest by gaining sufficient knowledge before investing.
That is right because when people have enough knowledge, they will not gets lost easily. They will use their knowledge to understand what they face it and not playing gambling more than other people.
They know the risks behind of gambling so they will not pass through the way because that can leads them becomes addicted to gambling. They can use gambling without gets tempts because they knows what they will gets if they gambling without control.
They can reminds other people arounds them and not suffering because of playing gambling because they knows how to use gambling properly. So gambling will not gives a bad effects to the society because they can take care each others when they playing gambling.

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June 23, 2024, 05:38:35 PM
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If looking for the wrong one is indeed the culprit, namely the gambler, he is responsible for whatever decisions he makes, even with controlling his emotions, finances and other ha there is no one who can help him except himself, including his behavior towards the people around him.

Ha like this should be realized by the perpetrators of gambling, but unfortunately people who are addicted to excess they turn a deaf ear and ignore anything and that's the reason why addicts will be claimed as a bad influence on society, people like this must come to the point where he can't do anything else and realize that he must make changes in his life to live better.
This is key, right now whenever a person does something that is considered to be out of the norm, explanations are trying to be given to the behavior they are showing, in an attempt to try to switch the blame away from the individual, but this has the problem that it teaches people that nothing is really their fault and instead their parents, friends or society are at fault for their problems, when in fact the most likely cause for your problems is yourself, and if you cannot accept that then you will never overcome them.
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If looking for the wrong one is indeed the culprit, namely the gambler, he is responsible for whatever decisions he makes, even with controlling his emotions, finances and other ha there is no one who can help him except himself, including his behavior towards the people around him.

Ha like this should be realized by the perpetrators of gambling, but unfortunately people who are addicted to excess they turn a deaf ear and ignore anything and that's the reason why addicts will be claimed as a bad influence on society, people like this must come to the point where he can't do anything else and realize that he must make changes in his life to live better.
This is key, right now whenever a person does something that is considered to be out of the norm, explanations are trying to be given to the behavior they are showing, in an attempt to try to switch the blame away from the individual, but this has the problem that it teaches people that nothing is really their fault and instead their parents, friends or society are at fault for their problems, when in fact the most likely cause for your problems is yourself, and if you cannot accept that then you will never overcome them.
Norma is something we need to consider when taking a decision. I don't think gambling is against the normal normal but when we gamble too much then we can be see as going too far or trespassing beyond the border we need to follow. It is important for us to always see for advise whenever we noticed that we are going to far. Gamblers are meant to watch their ways and debug their steps so that we don't end up doing things that would make us lose more in the market. We should be prepared to gamble with caution because this is what make us good gamblers and we ought to do the right thing so we don't have to end up losing more than we can chew.

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June 23, 2024, 05:53:49 PM
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If looking for the wrong one is indeed the culprit, namely the gambler, he is responsible for whatever decisions he makes, even with controlling his emotions, finances and other ha there is no one who can help him except himself, including his behavior towards the people around him.

Ha like this should be realized by the perpetrators of gambling, but unfortunately people who are addicted to excess they turn a deaf ear and ignore anything and that's the reason why addicts will be claimed as a bad influence on society, people like this must come to the point where he can't do anything else and realize that he must make changes in his life to live better.
This is key, right now whenever a person does something that is considered to be out of the norm, explanations are trying to be given to the behavior they are showing, in an attempt to try to switch the blame away from the individual, but this has the problem that it teaches people that nothing is really their fault and instead their parents, friends or society are at fault for their problems, when in fact the most likely cause for your problems is yourself, and if you cannot accept that then you will never overcome them.

But, if the gambler still has a good social life, then even if the gambler experiences stress due to his gambling defeat, at least they will still be able to control their emotions. If so, then of course gamblers will not do bad things in life for the community because after all, when gamblers do something bad or criminal, then at least basically the gamblers do not have a good social life for the community or with their environment. Therefore, at least mentoring will always be a good way to suppress or control one's emotions, because an addict needs someone and not to be kept away or isolated which makes it worse.

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June 23, 2024, 06:54:46 PM
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Yes, that's right, giving advice or direction to someone who is addicted is tiring, because in the end it depends on themselves, if for example they really still have it.
high obsession with gambling then of course there is a big possibility that whatever we suggest will not be able to change anything and there is even a possibility that maybe they will think that we are one of the people who interferes too much in their affairs.

So basically it is a good action for us to try to help people who are addicted with various actions that we can, one of which is by giving advice, that is good, but if for example they really cannot appreciate our help or from other people and instead say something that shouldn't be said to us then let it be, because actually this is only a matter of time, in the sense that as time goes by they will also definitely realize that their actions and thought patterns are actions that are harmful to them, especially when they have experienced some significant bad things that really traumatized them.
There are several efforts we can make to help them avoid gambling addiction, the simplest effort is to remind them with a warning because this effort is effective for family members and relatives and they appreciate our caring attitude, opinions about gambling are very sensitive and they don't even accept being called a gambling addict. even though they realize they have lost a lot of money in gambling. They will admit to gambling addiction after they experience stress and other symptoms of mental disorders due to not having money anymore for basic needs and they have lost everything in gambling, such gambling addiction must be cured with the recommended rehabilitation stage.
It is not too easy to keep them to keep a gambler out of gambling who is addicted. After being addicted the gambler can't stay away from gambling. And I think many a people try to stay away from gambling and though they can stay away they again fall on gambling.

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June 23, 2024, 07:20:28 PM
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People who have become addicted to gambling in excess can never win at gambling. Every resource is valuable to every human being. Instead of losing wealth and becoming a beggar on the road, one should invest by gaining sufficient knowledge before investing.
I don't agree with you on this theory. Being a gambling addict does not stop them from making a few wins. Once in a while, they will lose the game, and once in a while, they will also win a few games.
 
The only thing that will affect them is that they have a higher chance of losing whatever they have won from gambling back to the casino within a few seconds. It's very easy for them to do that because they have lost their self-control and have nothing more to protect.

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June 24, 2024, 05:11:30 AM
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I could say yes in the sense that there are alot gambling abuse, people approaching gambling the wrong way, it is only those who approaches gambling in terms of profits maximization or as a hustle to earn a living. There is no restrictions on how anyone can spend his or her money anyone can do whatever they like, what the government could have done is to organize a sensitization campaign program that will reduce the act of irresponsible gambling and it's negative effect which are too numerous to mention, if gambling itself where that bad I believed it wouldn't have been legalized which has given a certain level of freedom to the society generally.

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June 24, 2024, 07:42:43 AM
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If looking for the wrong one is indeed the culprit, namely the gambler, he is responsible for whatever decisions he makes, even with controlling his emotions, finances and other ha there is no one who can help him except himself, including his behavior towards the people around him.

Ha like this should be realized by the perpetrators of gambling, but unfortunately people who are addicted to excess they turn a deaf ear and ignore anything and that's the reason why addicts will be claimed as a bad influence on society, people like this must come to the point where he can't do anything else and realize that he must make changes in his life to live better.
That's right, the one who can help is themselves if they themselves cannot restrain themselves then they themselves make themselves in big problems such as finances that become messy. The actions taken are entirely our own responsibility, besides that the risks involved in gambling must also be borne by ourselves, such as the risk of losing money which is certain that it must be borne by ourselves, because there are gamblers who compensate others for the risks that occur. To be honest, if they can consider the actions they will take, maybe there will be no losses or problems, especially when they are addicted, of course the problem is themselves and they will find it difficult to get out of it.
With those who are addicted, they tend to close their ears because there must be people who advise them but the addicted person will not listen, even if the offender listens to the advice, he will not take the action that is in the advice, with him addicted he will only focus on the gambling he does. It is difficult for addicts to realize even if other people try to help, unless there is awareness from themselves that can make them realize and not continue anymore.

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June 24, 2024, 08:18:51 AM
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Yep, using the government perspective, they're judging what is good and what is bad for society depend on the majority effect. There's always someone can win through gambling, but people forgot if there are a lot people are loss in gambling. Since there are more people who loss than winning, the government see gambling is bad for the society. Not to mention that there are religions that forbid gambling, this makes people who're in that religions will say gambling is bad.

Not all governments see gambling as bad for the society. You can read an article "10 Countries Where Gambling is Completely Illegal" to see that gambling is illegal, meaning that indeed the governments of these countries think it's bad for society, in countries like United Arab Emirates, Brunei, Cambodia, North Korea and some other countries, but in most countries of the world gambling is not considered that bad.

I strongly agree with this why gambling is considered bad for the community, one of which indeed makes the community lulled with false hopes and want a lot of victories from gambling that can have an impact on health and environmental relations, this often occurs due to the gamblers of their control.

Gambling itself doesn't make anyone an addict, it depends on the person. No one should think that they can make easy money with gambling, it's stupid.

Gambling is entertainment and is good for the community, but people who understand how gambling is, meaning that not everyone can be good and beneficial for someone unless he knows about how gambling is made into entertainment venues, ~

Yes, I agree. You see, you said it yourself. Smiley

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I could say yes in the sense that there are alot gambling abuse, people approaching gambling the wrong way, it is only those who approaches gambling in terms of profits maximization or as a hustle to earn a living. There is no restrictions on how anyone can spend his or her money anyone can do whatever they like, what the government could have done is to organize a sensitization campaign program that will reduce the act of irresponsible gambling and it's negative effect which are too numerous to mention, if gambling itself where that bad I believed it wouldn't have been legalized which has given a certain level of freedom to the society generally.

I think it's similar to alcohol, in that it is fun to participate in it in moderation, but of course if you overdo it you will have problems.

And there is a lot of money involved in gambling. Actually if you go to a casino you usually have great deals in the bars, restaurants, etc, because they want you to gamble, and they offer great things at lower prices than usual.

If you don't gamble, you can get a lot of great deals in casinos. The moment you gamble though you start paying for those cheap deals.

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June 24, 2024, 10:59:51 AM
 #520

If looking for the wrong one is indeed the culprit, namely the gambler, he is responsible for whatever decisions he makes, even with controlling his emotions, finances and other ha there is no one who can help him except himself, including his behavior towards the people around him.

Ha like this should be realized by the perpetrators of gambling, but unfortunately people who are addicted to excess they turn a deaf ear and ignore anything and that's the reason why addicts will be claimed as a bad influence on society, people like this must come to the point where he can't do anything else and realize that he must make changes in his life to live better.
That's right, the one who can help is themselves if they themselves cannot restrain themselves then they themselves make themselves in big problems such as finances that become messy. The actions taken are entirely our own responsibility, besides that the risks involved in gambling must also be borne by ourselves, such as the risk of losing money which is certain that it must be borne by ourselves, because there are gamblers who compensate others for the risks that occur. To be honest, if they can consider the actions they will take, maybe there will be no losses or problems, especially when they are addicted, of course the problem is themselves and they will find it difficult to get out of it.
With those who are addicted, they tend to close their ears because there must be people who advise them but the addicted person will not listen, even if the offender listens to the advice, he will not take the action that is in the advice, with him addicted he will only focus on the gambling he does. It is difficult for addicts to realize even if other people try to help, unless there is awareness from themselves that can make them realize and not continue anymore.
The house always wins, its as simple as that. Its your money, you wanna gamble it away? Thats your choice. But remember, you made that decision. Nobody forced you. I see these guys, they get in too deep, lose everything. Start blaming everyone else but themselves. Thats loser talk. You gotta take responsibility.

The worst part? They wont listen to reason. You try to help them, they shut you out. Its like a disease. They're addicted to losing. They gotta look in the mirror and say, "Hey, this is my problem, and I gotta fix it." Personal growth, thats the key. You gotta trust yourself, trust your gut. And you gotta trust the people who are trying to help you. You listen to them, you open your mind, you start to change. Thats how you win. Not at the tables, but in life.

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