Trump's big promises

[legiteum]

Trump's other, even BIGGER promises, based on his written platform and his past behavior include:

1. Immediately deporting 5% of the American workforce, causing massive economic upheaval and requiring a gigantic new national police force.

2. Declaring abortion to be murder in all 50 states, and prosecuting doctors, women who have, or attempt to have abortions, and anybody who assists anybody in having an abortion in any way, including the financing of abortions or the financing of trips outside of the US, which will necessarily mean massive crackdowns on all forms of payment that can evade the police, most notably... Bitcoin.

3. Rampant, overt and fully accepted corruption. Trump famously pardoned criminals who ripped off is own supporters. Trump has shown that he sees the presidency the way any criminal would, e.g. as a way to make himself money. And the most lucrative thing for Trump himself and for his close associates would be the make Bitcoin illegal so he could replace it with a currency they personally own in full.

Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden. Don't mess with success! What we need is stability so we can all keep going forward with our plans to expand the market, not massive change that will throw everybody's plans out the window.

[Uhwuchukwu53]

The reality is that Trump is winning regardless of all the big promises he says that we know he can't guarantee to keep. People like him so even if he just does one among the hundreds he promised for crypto, all Trump will say is sorry.

There isn't even an assurance that he could stop the war, just one of the things he promised. Trump is the most popular in the world, I think whatever he says people will believe in him.

I wouldn't say much but concur with you and  some vital news I do hear of him base on the facts that I don't reside there in US trump has gained popularity outside US love him, if not of some political exigency that kicked him out he would have continue, but still see his actions this time as medium to take back the seat , one thing we must keep to heart is that not all that proceeded out of the mouth of politician can be hold accountable but without been sentimental Trump will do more better even at point not fulfilling all his promises now in campaign.

[paxmao]

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[pawel7777]

I've seen some articles/videos speculating that support of of cryptocurrency investors (and there are millions of them in the US) could be a deciding factor in the upcoming presidential elections.
That's why Trump, who back in the days wasn't very enthusiastic towards Bitcoin (although I wouldn't say he was against it) has now become 100% pro-crypto.
It will be much harder for the Democrats and Biden to bring the crypto crowd on their side, given they were known for being outright hostile to the industry, with special mention to Elizabeth Warren, who, if I remember correctly, even proposed a tax on unrealised crypto-gains, which is insane.

[legiteum]

I've seen some articles/videos speculating that support of of cryptocurrency investors (and there are millions of them in the US) could be a deciding factor in the upcoming presidential elections.
That's why Trump, who back in the days wasn't very enthusiastic towards Bitcoin (although I wouldn't say he was against it) has now become 100% pro-crypto.
It will be much harder for the Democrats and Biden to bring the crypto crowd on their side, given they were known for being outright hostile to the industry, with special mention to Elizabeth Warren, who, if I remember correctly, even proposed a tax on unrealised crypto-gains, which is insane.

Most people who want to take the secure route with their Bitcoin holders will vote for Biden. Trump promises massive change and disruption to the US economy, which will be bad for Bitcoin.

And no, Elizabeth Warren never proposed any sort of tax specifically on Bitcoin, nor would such a thing ever get anywhere near passing in the US Senate let alone Congress as a whole.

What Warren (and others) proposed is that Bitcoin and other cryptos be treated just like every other investment, which means that realized gains are taxed. Bitcoin does not deserve any special treatment by the government. Any Republican administration would want the same thing.

[BADecker]

Another Trump promise is Social Security tax on employers and employees cut - https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/363526-2024-06-06-president-trump-said-he-will-abolish-payroll-tax-when-hes.htm. Watch the video.

[alani123]

Funny, in the light of a potential Biden second term, Coinbase's CEO started a campaign called "Stand with crypto"...

Supposedly this is a collective effort to pressure the government to be more lenient on crypto and the regulation surrounding corporations in the space. Here it is:
https://www.standwithcrypto.org/

Interestingly this has not been received well because Coinbase did not even bother to put in place any checks of humanity and the number shown is likely vastly exaggerated due to that. So the campaign has been relentlessly mocked and likely falls flat on its face in convincing anyone.
Like for example see below:
https://x.com/Bitfinexed/status/1799169174134263937

I doubt Biden is gonna take this particular campaign seriously. But he's well aware of the money and interests in crypto and surely might try to pander them a bit. All until enacting anti-mining regulation post election. So probably big crypto interests are gonna go with supporting a trump vote this election.

[BADecker]

Trump's other, even BIGGER promises, based on his written platform and his past behavior include:

1. Immediately deporting 5% of the American workforce, causing massive economic upheaval and requiring a gigantic new national police force. - Some of the street people in LA and Frisco won't have any excuse for not going back to work.

2. Declaring abortion to be murder in all 50 states, and prosecuting doctors, women who have, or attempt to have abortions, and anybody who assists anybody in having an abortion in any way, including the financing of abortions or the financing of trips outside of the US, which will necessarily mean massive crackdowns on all forms of payment that can evade the police, most notably... Bitcoin. - But Trump also said that he would leave it up to the States. However, 60-million murdered people in America makes the whole country totally despicable in God's sight. If we get Trum, we have 4 more years of reprieve to move to a safer place before God destroys the whole country.

3. Rampant, overt and fully accepted corruption. Trump famously pardoned criminals who ripped off is own supporters. Trump has shown that he sees the presidency the way any criminal would, e.g. as a way to make himself money. And the most lucrative thing for Trump himself and for his close associates would be the make Bitcoin illegal so he could replace it with a currency they personally own in full. - This is a tiny thing, even if it is true. Biden's regime has caused the mass murder of foreign nations. Trump tried to get us out of wars in his first term. What do you want? There will always be trouble and corruption. Let's focus on getting rid of the big Biden corruption.

Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden. Don't mess with success! What we need is stability so we can all keep going forward with our plans to expand the market, not massive change that will throw everybody's plans out the window.

Did you forget that Bitcoin reached the $65,000 range twice in the past? The reason why it went to $75,000 this time was because BTC ETF's were introduced to bring the US into the market that other countries were gobbling up because of their BTC ETF's.

None of this has to do with anything Biden did. But the failing economy is a direct result of the creation of new money sent to Ukraine.

[Hispo]

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I doubt Biden is gonna take this particular campaign seriously. But he's well aware of the money and interests in crypto and surely might try to pander them a bit. All until enacting anti-mining regulation post election. So probably big crypto interests are gonna go with supporting a trump vote this election.

I think it would depend on whether his major donors are in Bitcoin or other alternative currencies. It is not a secret there have been a growth in the number of institutional investors and money managers. In the end, when it comes to American politics, donors have much weight in the regulation the elected candidates will take in consideration. and that is one of the most criticized aspects of how the politics works there in the United States.
Biden is a political and economical dinosaur, there is no doubt about it, he does not understand what Bitcoin is, as far as he knows it is something which cannot by controlled by the government and pollutes the environment, so in his agenda to stop it.
Trump could have more of an idea on what Bitcoin and decentralization is, but only to the extent it helps him to make more money and collect from his acolytes worldwide.
Nevertheless, I would indeed expect Trump to go softer on taxes to Crypto gains.

[legiteum]

Nevertheless, I would indeed expect Trump to go softer on taxes to Crypto gains.

Gains are gains, regardless of what investment did it for you. There is not any distinction now between crypto gains and that from stocks or other investments, and I don't expect there ever will be. It would be too hard for them to figure out which is which, for starters (is the ETF a stock, or is it Bitcoin? [it's both]).

[bluebit25]

(...)What do you think of all this? Did Trump overpromise? Do you think these promises give him hope for winning the presidential race?

I have faith in Trump's promise, because I really feel like the term Trump has done is very much focused on his statements, but I also understand the issue of the race for the presidency promises may also be mentioned.

Although both Trump and Biden are the dominant players in the upcoming presidential position, in my opinion, no matter who becomes president, the change in strategies for the economy will be affected, and especially issues related to conflicts of many different regions.

[TwitchySeal]

(...)What do you think of all this? Did Trump overpromise? Do you think these promises give him hope for winning the presidential race?

I have faith in Trump's promise, because I really feel like the term Trump has done is very much focused on his statements, but I also understand the issue of the race for the presidency promises may also be mentioned.

Although both Trump and Biden are the dominant players in the upcoming presidential position, in my opinion, no matter who becomes president, the change in strategies for the economy will be affected, and especially issues related to conflicts of many different regions.

I think it's time to update your AI.


Anyway, here are some of the promises Trump made but didn't keep during the 2016 campaign.

[BADecker]

The interesting thing about the promises that Trump made for his first term is, he was able to keep a lot of them. These promises generally did good for the people of the United States.

Biden kept a lot of his promises, too. And look at the state of the nation, now.

Let's get Trump back so that we get some more of his good promises.

Check the good Trump did for the people, here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269905.msg55119252#msg55119252.

[legiteum]

Biden kept a lot of his promises, too. And look at the state of the nation, now.

Bitcoin went up 500% under Biden.

Post-covid inflation has been tamed and is almost back to normal.

Unemployment is at an all-time low.

The markets are stable and we're able to do business as normal.

I get that you need the USA to be terrible so your team to win, but the facts simply don't match that. No matter how hard to you try to make American into a hellhole, the fact is that things are pretty good right now, and they are getting better.

And yet Republicans want radical change--changing from the good times we're currently having to instability and turmoil.

[BADecker]

Biden kept a lot of his promises, too. And look at the state of the nation, now.

Bitcoin went up 500% under Biden.

Post-covid inflation has been tamed and is almost back to normal.

Unemployment is at an all-time low.

The markets are stable and we're able to do business as normal.

I get that you need the USA to be terrible so your team to win, but the facts simply don't match that. No matter how hard to you try to make American into a hellhole, the fact is that things are pretty good right now, and they are getting better.

And yet Republicans want radical change--changing from the good times we're currently having to instability and turmoil.

Bitcoin went up from 0% long before Trump or Biden had anything to do with it. Note that, BTC hit $65,000 twice in the past, and dumped back down again.

There will always be some who thrive while others lose. All you need to do is go to a Trump rally sponsored by Blacks and Hispanics to see how the Biden Regime has failed them.

[Zanab247]

The reality is that Trump is winning regardless of all the big promises he says that we know he can't guarantee to keep. People like him so even if he just does one among the hundreds he promised for crypto, all Trump will say is sorry.

Donald Trump is a wealthy politician and he is capable to fulfill all his promises he has made so far when he resume the office, and if you can still remember some of the things he promised during his first tenure, he fulfilled all before Joe Biden took over from him.

With what Donald Trump has promise to do when he step into the office, I believe he will going to get plenty vote that will make him to win this election because all the crypto users will vote for him for the promise he made concerning the crypto adoption.

There isn't even an assurance that he could stop the war, just one of the things he promised. Trump is the most popular in the world, I think whatever he says people will believe in him.

You think, Donald Trump will not have the power or the influence to stop the war? As a president, if you cannot stop a war within a year show that people in the government office have hand in it, and it will not take Donald Trump few months to eliminate any thing that will make the war to continue from the country.

[alani123]

Trump has made a ton of promised and didn't mind to keep most of them but sith crypto and his promises on the matter I truly tend to believe that with some of them he will be honest to some extent because quick profit and de regulation, especially to serve large interests fit his style well.

So trump might as well de regulate crypto but this again would open up holes in consumer safety that allowed FTX to collapse in the first place. Not that Biden was better, but now it might become even worse.

[BADecker]

^^^ Crypto is not regulated by government. It's certain activities of people that are regulated by government.

If you keep Bitcoin in a private wallet on your computer, and send some bitcoins privately to a friend, government doesn't regulate you. Test this by having 2 wallets on your computer, and by sending bitcoins back and forth between them. Government doesn't care.

It's when you do some of your transactions publicly that government has a duty to take a look at it... and regulate it to an extent.

[EluguHcman]

My question is.... Does he really care that much that much and can he be able to fulfill all that social and media promises he is been speculating?

Well, we can't access the depths of his inner-being to know with assurance how much he really cares about what he promises and defends, but if I could make I guess, I would say he doesn't care at all, since it's all about saying what he has to say to conquer what he desires to conquer. We live in the era of moral relativism, which is dominated by sophists. For these people truth doesn't matter, rather what matters is to convince people anything can be true, depending what is more interesting to them on the present moment.

Politicians act lead by this guideline. What is true for him today, might not be tomorrow anymore.

Moreover, of course he isn't going to fulfill these promises he is sharing on social medias right now, because it doesn't depend fully on one individual to become reality. There is a legislative house approving and disapproving laws and regulations. There is a judiciary system which exercises high influence over the other levels of power (legislative and executive). There is a media enforcing its agendas as well.

Lots of personal interests are involved on the process of ruling a country, and all these interests are infected by moral relativism, where each individual wants his necessities supplied, without caring at all about others who are around. Therefore you can be assured that a politican making such promises is very naive or is very elusive and manipulative. As we know Trump isn't naive in anyways, I guess he must belong to the second category then...

It is al fact of personal interest in politics which you have just been outlined. So the politicians would always say whatever they want think they can just to convince the people by airing empty promises just to buy favour from the masses.

Actually the reason why politicians and the medias lies mostly is because the masses are not interested to hear the truth but want to hear what they wanted.
This became the origin of politicians with impossible promises even when knowing that even if they gets into power, there are legislated jurisdiction superceding the executive power and whatever implementation by the executive order has to be approved by a senatorial body that is to so .... Even when it Trump's might really mean to execute all those promises, he will need to pass through legislative law and if it is not approved then it all becomes impossible for him to fulfill his promises.

[Hispo]

.... Government doesn't care.

It's when you do some of your transactions publicly that government has a duty to take a look at it... and regulate it to an extent.

It seems to me the governments indeed care about it, otherwise they would not have tried to develop tracking tools and Blockchain analysis programs for them to be able to link the addresses of Bitcoin to specific individuals and institutions.
Also, by definition, all Transactions done through the use of the Bitcoin mainnet (Blockchain) are one hundred percent public, since anyone can look at the ledger and take a look on the addresses interacting with one another, if you decided to use some Bitcoin to tip a person, it would be public, for anyone who knows the basics of Blockchain browsing.