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May 31, 2024, 03:25:48 AM |
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This is not a new method my dear. Anyone who chooses to fall for this type of scam is greedy and is a scammer as well. And if a scammer gets scammed then it fine by me. This is because it's only a scammer who would want to help an unknown person to withdraw their funds from there wallet. Wen it is very simple for anyone to withdraw funds, only a YouTube video tutorial can guide the person. Yet people feel they can scam such person. This is why being greedy is not good, anyone who falls victim should bear the consequences.
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May 31, 2024, 05:03:01 AM |
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They are not stupid but wicked, stupid are someone who lack intelligence or common sense while wicked use their wit to do evil things.
Stupid or wicked, it's only chosen word to say about scammers and I don't argue with you about words because it won't end with an agreement. It could be an old trick, but a lot of users are still falling for it, and I so much believe there are Others in this forum who don’t even know about the trick.
You don't need to know everything in all areas, know everything about scam methods, to avoid scammers. What you need, most important thing you need, to avoid scam, are very simple: carefulness and don't be greed. Scammers can use simple or complicated scam methods to find victims but they aim at careless and greed people. If you are not people like this, no scammer can touch you and your money. I agree but it's funny how they always get people. That means the people are even more stupid? I see a lot of lame scams and I wonder how people fall for it. I just can't explain it.
Because human instinct is always there and the same, and new victims are who repeat same mistakes like past victims. They are either careless or greed or both. If you call a scammer stupid then you have underestimated them because you would not be expecting much from someone who you have called stupid because of their actions, but some of this scammers these days are very intelligent that they can even still fool someone who knows about their existence. Better not to assume their stupidity and pay attention to details because some scams can be really sophisticated.
I don't underestimate scammers because they can code, can do things I can not do, but to say they are smart, I don't say it. They can code, make website, smart contract, or hire some staffs to do this for them. They only need idea and pass it to staffs for coding later steps. We don't know what a founder of a scam project actually does. Maybe the founder only has idea, other things completed by his staffs or collaborators.
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May 31, 2024, 05:25:05 AM |
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This is an old tricks and I thought people have grown past this level. The operate this scam by draining the TRX of whoever attempt to transfer the USDT as fees.
I will continue to advice people to apply wisdom all the time. Anyone that have a way of earning USDT should be able to know how to send it, and it takes only someone greedy to fall for this scan.
Whether it's an old technique or not, there will always be new people in the crypto world, which means a new set of people who are ignorant of it and are vulnerable. Without falling victim, they will not know of it's existence and when they do, they are likely to fall victim. It's good that the OP shared this with us here, at the very least new members who are unfamiliar with this tactic will be able to learn from it, and there's nothing wrong with reminding us to avoid such strategies. This is a very dubious and smart strategy, we ought to be careful online especially on telegram, alot of people are going extra miles, thinking of anything possible just to scam others. I will say not everything you see online is true, be careful even when you feel you just want to help someone.
Scammers always think extra miles to convince people in order to victimize them that’s why it’s very important to never believe anything online at first sight, always verify the authenticity of certain claims before believing it and anything that will require you to send out money from your wallet should not be trusted. The crypto world is full of scam so newbies need to educate themselves more about various strategies scammers utilize to steal money from people.
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May 31, 2024, 07:13:13 AM |
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Scammers are the smart ones?
No, they are not. They are pretty stupid.
They are not stupid but wicked, stupid are someone who lack intelligence or common sense while wicked use their wit to do evil things. If you call a scammer stupid then you have underestimated them because you would not be expecting much from someone who you have called stupid because of their actions, but some of this scammers these days are very intelligent that they can even still fool someone who knows about their existence. Better not to assume their stupidity and pay attention to details because some scams can be really sophisticated. Underestimate scammers at your own risk, I wouldn't even call them stupid because it takes intelligence and experience to scheme up ways to manipulate other people's intelligence inorder to scam them. To be able to outsmart scammers means that you have to be informed about their fraudulent activities, otherwise they can penetrate their victims as if they need favor from them, and the naive people will fall for their tricks. I think that the two keys to avoid being scammed is not to be too quick to involve in any online activities that you're not familiar with, don't even try to help, support or engage in business dealings with people online, you need to research and verify first from experienced people or trusted sites for information. Second key factor to being scammed is greed, most victims that falls prey to scams is due to greed, scammers will entice their victims with too good to be true offers.
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Taskford
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May 31, 2024, 09:13:25 AM |
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Scammers are the smart ones?
No, they are not. They are pretty stupid.
They are not stupid but wicked, stupid are someone who lack intelligence or common sense while wicked use their wit to do evil things. If you call a scammer stupid then you have underestimated them because you would not be expecting much from someone who you have called stupid because of their actions, but some of this scammers these days are very intelligent that they can even still fool someone who knows about their existence. Better not to assume their stupidity and pay attention to details because some scams can be really sophisticated. Underestimate scammers at your own risk, I wouldn't even call them stupid because it takes intelligence and experience to scheme up ways to manipulate other people's intelligence inorder to scam them. To be able to outsmart scammers means that you have to be informed about their fraudulent activities, otherwise they can penetrate their victims as if they need favor from them, and the naive people will fall for their tricks. I think that the two keys to avoid being scammed is not to be too quick to involve in any online activities that you're not familiar with, don't even try to help, support or engage in business dealings with people online, you need to research and verify first from experienced people or trusted sites for information. Second key factor to being scammed is greed, most victims that falls prey to scams is due to greed, scammers will entice their victims with too good to be true offers. They would not exist for that long if they know that its easy for them to eliminate. That's why these criminals still exist since they know that there's still a lot of newbies are keep entering the scene since crypto market is gaining a lot of popularity and they take advantage on that situation. We see a lot of them became so innovative and whatever trend release they came up with appealing idea just to get a potential victims of their scheme. Although we know a lot of scams method use but for newbies it will be so hard for them to figure out if they are participating on legit one or just a total scam since they don't have idea on everything about they are newly engaging. Verifying each platform is important if they just do a research first before they invest for sure they might see this forum and can ask about many things that can help them to learn also for their potential investments.
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May 31, 2024, 12:30:25 PM |
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Scammers are smart enough today that many users don't understand their techniques. Scammers usually make big offers, many are tempted to swallow those offers. People who haven't actually been victims of scammers don't realize how far things can go, scammers will rob you of everything you can't imagine could happen. The biggest thing is that we give opportunity to scammers, we often step into the trap knowingly. Personally, I would say that if we always refuse the tempting offers, then the scammers will not get any help in getting their hands on anything personal.
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May 31, 2024, 12:56:57 PM |
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This is an old tricks and I thought people have grown past this level.
I was like, "Do people still fall for such old trick" too when I read the OP. The first time I saw something like that on telegram was around 2020/2021 (I can't be sure anymore). I was almost thrown into a panic for the person's sake, believing they were genuinely seeking help and had inadvertently exposed their passphrase. It was not until another user explained it to the rest of us and called the scammer out that I felt relaxed. Again, those who fall for such a scam are greedy too. Only greed will make someone want to reap where they didn't sow. It's the same way people try to claim NFTs they find in their wallets but they didn't do anything to earn them. They think it's that easy to throw money (coins) around. It's certainly not. Scammers know this and that's why they cash in on the greed of people to hit them.
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May 31, 2024, 01:12:47 PM |
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Scammers are smart enough today that many users don't understand their techniques. Scammers usually make big offers, many are tempted to swallow those offers. People who haven't actually been victims of scammers don't realize how far things can go, scammers will rob you of everything you can't imagine could happen. The biggest thing is that we give opportunity to scammers, we often step into the trap knowingly. Personally, I would say that if we always refuse the tempting offers, then the scammers will not get any help in getting their hands on anything personal.
Scammers are always developing new strategies so if you think you know all their strategies they are some were cooking things up, I wonder if they can diversify their strategies into something more meaningful than use it for scam. Their relevant place that their idea will help but no they will rather use it to get free money and put people in pain. This guys don’t know the amount of pain they make people go through losing their funds, in some movies like beekeeper, what surprised me in that movie was the fact that most of the this so called tech companies are into scams mining peoples data and scamming them this shows that scammers can go to any extent just to scam someone. And some offers are too good to be real but because of the money they will want to try out instead of making proper research. No matter the advice you give to people they will still fall victim, because the moment a random person messages you and starting talk about investment and profits then you should know that it is pure scam nothing more.
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May 31, 2024, 01:46:41 PM |
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No, they are not. They are pretty stupid.
I wouldn't say they are stupid. This strategy still works, which means some have a demand for it. Besides, who takes the bait? The one who thinks that he is the most cunning, and seeing the wallet data, wants to take someone else’s. Even if not everyone is like that, some just want to help, ask yourself, are you the only one who knows how to help these days? It's simple. Greedy people fall for scammers. Everyone else just passes by, realizing that nothing on the Internet is free. Those thoughts about a quick freebie very often lead to people receiving their losses instead of profits. You quoted phrase is taken out of context. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 31, 2024, 02:35:19 PM |
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This is a very dubious and smart strategy, we ought to be careful online especially on telegram, alot of people are going extra miles, thinking of anything possible just to scam others. I will say not everything you see online is true, be careful even when you feel you just want to help someone. Whether it's an old trick or not people would still fall for it and thanks for sharing because I believe there are persons here who are getting to know about this kind of scam for the first time. Also, I don't know if I would say the victims got what they deserve because it's only persons with bad intentions that would try to move the USDT to a different wallet.
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May 31, 2024, 06:45:02 PM |
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The rate of scam that has been happening in telegram seems to be increasing day by day and i was surprised with this strange strategy adopted by scammers so i decided to share it to prevent more people from falling victim.
Telegram is the favorite place for scammers, you will see all sorts of scamming attempts happening there and they also find a lot of success in scamming people in Telegram because they know there are a lot of newbies joining Telegram to participate in airdrops and giveaways or joining the groups of their favorite projects to stay up to date, and they lure them with such offers by going into their DMs and most newbies who are new in this industry fall victim to such things pretty easily. Even though this is an old trick, you can still often see people posting such things on different social media platforms, especially Facebook where you can often see such things being posted in cryptocurrency-related groups or the comments of related posts.
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May 31, 2024, 07:24:30 PM |
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I have seen a lot of scam but this is quite different, I know scammers are very smart now I can even see more evidence to prove that scammers are even more smart than those who claim to be smart in their ways.
Just as profirii said, if you think it the other way the scammer was smart enough to make the scam look like they are the real scammers for trying to hijack his funds. it's a great lesson for them anyways.. one don't have to be so greedy to the extent of wanting to exploit someone else.
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May 31, 2024, 08:48:23 PM |
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Scammers are smart enough today that many users don't understand their techniques. Scammers usually make big offers, many are tempted to swallow those offers. People who haven't actually been victims of scammers don't realize how far things can go, scammers will rob you of everything you can't imagine could happen. The biggest thing is that we give opportunity to scammers, we often step into the trap knowingly. Personally, I would say that if we always refuse the tempting offers, then the scammers will not get any help in getting their hands on anything personal.
The reason why people easily for victim to scam is because of greed and the mindset of making money so fast in the Internet. It is only greed that will make someone to believe free offers from the Internet and if people can learn to change their mindset concerning getting quick money it will be difficult for them to fall victim of scammers. Scammers tries to bring up new techniques in which can be used to scam people in getting money from them but if people can understand not to have interest of getting money from strangers online it will really help to fall victim to scammers. Scammers understands that the only way to get people is to offer free money people would want to gain without making any effort and this is how many people wants to make money that's is why they fall victim to scam.
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This is a very dubious and smart strategy, we ought to be careful online especially on telegram, alot of people are going extra miles, thinking of anything possible just to scam others. I will say not everything you see online is true, be careful even when you feel you just want to help someone.
Scammers are very wise, they love using Telegram among all the remaining social media because they catch victims always and they imply several strategies on telegram which help them in achieving their goals. This strategy used by this scammer is an old strategy, they have used it several time, now they are trying to bring it back so that they can get newbies that are yet to know about it. Some of them do even clone exchange and ask you to login for them to take some percentage of you help them withdraw their funds; all these are strategies to scam you. Be wise and stay away from any message from an unknown user on telegram.
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May 31, 2024, 09:25:53 PM |
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Thanks op for this reminder because I believe there may be ones whom may have not heard nor seen this kind of method in term of scamming. Don't let greed push you into what you don't know, just be careful in learning and using the right platform.
Scams happen everywhere and this is just part of the battles we face for been trying to use a new tech and people that fall victims the most are the ignorant ones who invest into coins without investing into knowledge and security. The funny thing about crypto scams is that people that indulge in it are just regular people like us but they happen to be knowledgeable than others, they look beyond what others do or some complexity we don't often look at and they hide behind that to tie advantage of people, that's what scammers are doing here in crypto. Furthermore, some people are blind by greed just as you mentioned, they love to make money where they didnt put anything, even conservation of energy stated that you can't create energy without not using energy but scam victims want to create money where they don't put any money or sometimes they want to create more than what they put. How can someone be expecting 300% interest in 3 days with your small change, that's ridiculous.
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Whether it's an old trick or not people would still fall for it and thanks for sharing because I believe there are persons here who are getting to know about this kind of scam for the first time.
Scammers’s strategies are not always so difficult to fish out, but newbies are always falling for them because they don’t really have experience. No matter how old a trick is, we are still going to see people who will be falling for it, so it’s better we keep on enlightening ourselves about all these strategies that scammers are using, whether they're old or new. Some scam strategies might be old, but we should know that people just joining the crypto space won’t know about them, but if we keep on talking about them, new people might end up seeing them.
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May 31, 2024, 09:44:09 PM |
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This is not a new method my dear. Anyone who chooses to fall for this type of scam is greedy and is a scammer as well. And if a scammer gets scammed then it fine by me. This is because it's only a scammer who would want to help an unknown person to withdraw their funds from there wallet. Wen it is very simple for anyone to withdraw funds, only a YouTube video tutorial can guide the person. Yet people feel they can scam such person. This is why being greedy is not good, anyone who falls victim should bear the consequences.
Actually I think it depends reason is because most people can do it due to lack of ignorance, though the method might look very old to you but still new to some people, we are different people with different thought and also with different mindset. there are so many things you can experience in the internet, that most people don't know. Of course sometimes it happens as a result of being greedy, maybe thier intention might be maybe after withdrawing the funds probably they will run away with the money, without knowing that the person that he's planning to run away with his Money also have bad intention towards him.
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May 31, 2024, 09:48:07 PM |
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The rate of scam that has been happening in telegram seems to be increasing day by day and i was surprised with this strange strategy adopted by scammers so i decided to share it to prevent more people from falling victim. I spotted it myself before i even read about possible ways to get scammed on telegram. During my newbie days, I was introduced to a kind of pay-to-get-paid telegram channel for traders. Everything sounded a little bit convincing for me cause I barely had an experience on copy trading. I logged on my telegram one evening on seeing several notification Links about how reliable the platform is; reading through, I discovered that most of those updates were made through the same IP addy and almost from the same device. I haven't followed any link since then, up until now. I recently stumbled across a post on a telegram group where a user claiming to be having difficulty withdrawing his funds of $270 USDT from his wallet to Binance and seeking for other people’s help to withdraw the funds. This is trap! The moment you try to verify the seedphrase, your funds is gone!
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Scammers understands that the only way to get people is to offer free money people would want to gain without making any effort and this is how many people wants to make money that's is why they fall victim to scam.
Yes, that's correct. Most of those who fall into scammers' schemes, whether old or sophisticated tactics, are people desperate to make money in any form and to rush to experiment without any experience, research, or seeking advice from someone with long-standing experience in this field. When we find a stranger who sends his seed phrase and private key of his wallet or accounts on exchange platforms and the like and who attaches a screenshot of the stuck money and asks for help from the public in exchange for a percentage of these funds in return, the best solution is to ignore what he sent and refrain from opening the wallet because it will likely be infected with a honeypot. The account will belong to a scam exchange platform. As a result, any funds deposited by the person tempted by the money will fall into their traps easily. Therefore, it is best not to trust strangers to stay safe.
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May 31, 2024, 11:18:11 PM |
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Not a new technique, but there are still investors who are still falling to this way of scamming other people. I guess sometimes, being ignorant is good because I used to ignore everything that I feel is a scam. I mean if I'm the one who saw this personally on Telegram, I will just ignore it or delete it. Like what other said, I would share my thanks to the OP for sharing this. For sure, there will be 1 or 2 people out there who will see this and learn from it. Scammers are becoming more and more smarter as years pass by. They are adopting to what's happening hence, they are doing everything just to be successful in what they're doing. As for the investors, we should be smarter than them. How? Learning more. Gaining more knowledge overtime would help us not get scammed. Learning how to secure our funds would help us. Learning what are the ways these scammers are using to scam people will be a helpful one because we will know how to avoid them. Sometimes, trusting your gut feeling works, and that works to me all the time. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It might not work for some, but being knowledgeable is always better. One of the problem with most people is always wanting to involve themselves in everything. Just like the op said, if you check those people who wanted to help most of them has another thing in mind that is to say that most of them were actually trying to take advantage not knowing that it was a trap though some may truly want to help but will I call it ignorant or what I mean why will someone fall for that, that was so fake to be true however, I believe they have learnt a lesson of their life and no one will tell them to back off next time they see stuffs like that online and I think if there's no example people won't understand or learn. I hope most people learn from this.
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