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June 01, 2024, 05:49:51 AM
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As a child, textbooks and teachers have taught us that hard work begets good luck. That is, no one comes into the world with luck, everyone has to make their own luck.(...)
I've never heard of this, but I was taught that if you work hard and help others you will get good luck, and in fact that's what I witnessed with myself. I don't work for myself for really simple needs, something I put effort into for everyone around me without expecting anything in return.

(...)A day laborer works for around 12 hours non-stop and in return they get a small amount of money which they spend in various ways. Here my question is why they are not able to change their fate after working so hard. In this case you may tell me that he is a daily wage laborer or he is a rickshaw driver that is why he is not progressing but he is focused on his workplace and he is working there with full focus so why is he not changing his fate. If a rickshaw driver or a day laborer wants to but cannot become a doctor or an engineer, he has to focus on his profession. What do you say about his change of fate?
IMO, the problem is the opportunity that person has and are they really happy with it, if the answer from that rickshaw puller is that they feel unhappy with that job then are they willing to stop, perhaps the story will be the fact that our abilities will give us suitable positions in life. And I see that even when there is an easy job, the trade-off comes from before, when the effort to learn skills that can be applied to the job to have a pleasant job, as long as that person is happy happy and grateful for the things they have. I don't think much about jobs in society, because any career is precious to each person. If we choose to live with that, even those who criticize our incompetence will not affects what they have. It's like you see that rickshaw puller working hard but life doesn't have the need you think, but going back to the issue that person can still be happy with their job. Each of us has our own lessons in life, so there is no need to impose a one-size-fits-all standard, the joy of a farmer is different from the joy of a king.










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June 01, 2024, 12:19:29 PM
Last edit: June 01, 2024, 12:30:26 PM by adiksau0414
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Well, maybe before the birth of ai's and internet hard wok practice is acceptable due to labor is needed to perform physical work. as times goes by, the innovation of different way to make work easier is perform in different countries. Of Course, who doesn't want easier and more efficient work? so it depends on what era you are talking to. But still some people are slaves of long hour labor with just a small salary that can't provide enough for a family.

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June 01, 2024, 02:46:56 PM
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Hard Work is not just a physical effect, it can be mentally aswell depending on one's nature of job. A business owner has his job and he knows what he's doing but inorder for him to be more productive other than his colleagues in the business is for him to come up with a striking plan by adding something that makes his service more preferable than the others, this will increase the number of people who would want to do business with him, that is also called hardwork not physicality alone.

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June 01, 2024, 03:14:53 PM
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As a child, textbooks and teachers have taught us that hard work begets good luck.

There is dignity in labour and the recompense is always good, if we can bend down our rules and knees towards working out something for ourself, we will always have what to fall back on in the future, this is one of the reason they use to say there is dignity in labour, if we can work then we can eat, this translates right from the knowledge expositions we have been receiving right from our childhood days to this time.

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June 01, 2024, 04:49:00 PM
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...What do you say about his change of fate?
I don't think it has anything to do with a change of fate, but more of a case of such a one settling for what is available and can provide their daily bread.
That's one reason why education is important, because if one knows how to work smart and learn to employ labor, then they have become an entrepreneur no matter the area or field of expertise.

Working smart is today's day and age solution to working so hard without gain and it pays to be educated in every area so as one can personally develop to improve on the conditions that would normally not be conducive enough for one to accumulate wealth.

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As a child, textbooks and teachers have taught us that hard work begets good luck. That is, no one comes into the world with luck, everyone has to make their own luck. The more hardworking and the more serious he is towards his work, the more likely he is to succeed. But there are some people around who look at them and think this saying is not true. Around me, I see many such daily wage laborers, rickshaw pullers or agricultural laborers, who remain at the same position from which they started their life even at the end of their age. It's not like they don't work hard.  

A day laborer works for around 12 hours non-stop and in return they get a small amount of money which they spend in various ways. Here my question is why they are not able to change their fate after working so hard. In this case you may tell me that he is a daily wage laborer or he is a rickshaw driver that is why he is not progressing but he is focused on his workplace and he is working there with full focus so why is he not changing his fate. If a rickshaw driver or a day laborer wants to but cannot become a doctor or an engineer, he has to focus on his profession. What do you say about his change of fate?
There is reward and dignity in labour, if a labourer has worked in a certain place for years, and his not getting rewarded enough for his hard work, then he should ask for a pay increase, if his employer refuses to increase his wage, then he should resign. Because resignation is also part of dignity, you cannot continue to work hard in an environment that they do not appreciate your effort.

However a focus laborer should have a target, what to achieve at every interval, so that you can look back and count your blessings. being focused and having a strategy as to enable you succeed is an entire different ball game, in as much as you work hard to earn your money as a laborer, you need to plan yourself so as to have a better future.

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A day laborer works for around 12 hours non-stop and in return they get a small amount of money which they spend in various ways. Here my question is why they are not able to change their fate after working so hard. In this case you may tell me that he is a daily wage laborer or he is a rickshaw driver that is why he is not progressing but he is focused on his workplace and he is working there with full focus so why is he not changing his fate. If a rickshaw driver or a day laborer wants to but cannot become a doctor or an engineer, he has to focus on his profession. What do you say about his change of fate?
The people who earn the better in this age are people who work the harder intellectually and not physically because physical labor does not translate to much wealth. This is why people like the builders and bricklayers will never be as wealthy as the contractors who have the job and put everything together.
We have to work smarter in our pursuit for wealth, depending on our physical strength alone will greatly put us in a bad position because it will diminish as we age, and it can be a big danger to our health too.

Smart workers earn better than those who physically work hard.

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Here my question is why they are not able to change their fate after working so hard. In this case you may tell me that he is a daily wage laborer or he is a rickshaw driver that is why he is not progressing but he is focused on his workplace and he is working there with full focus so why is he not changing his fate. If a rickshaw driver or a day laborer wants to but cannot become a doctor or an engineer, he has to focus on his profession. What do you say about his change of fate?

Let me answer your questions. There is one concept that needs to be understood by people: not that going to school will benefit you, but that you have to be smart even though you have the knowledge because your knowledge alone won’t make you rich. That is why they always say don’t work hard only, but work smart. Graduating from school as a doctor or engineer will not make you rich, but you can still get rich if you are smart enough. 

Take, for instance, you as a doctor. Instead of working for a person, why not create your own hospital? I know creating a hospital is not a small deal, but let me tell you, if you can do that and employ many other doctors like that, you will definitely get rich. But that concept can not still be applicable to others in the same profession, and if you look deep, not everyone is meant to be rich. Some are just meant to survive because if everyone gets rich in the world, no one will be there to serve them any more, and life will not move as expected. 

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June 01, 2024, 08:29:24 PM
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Hard work pays off but working smart makes the difference, you can work all your ass off yet still remain in the same class of social status or quo poor status because you aren't productive in any way rather you work for someone all the days of your life. looking from history you can see that most successful people do not really work hard rather they work smart puting their hands (money) into risky areas where attentions are not much paid into.

you can not because successful or the status rich with working 12 hours a day. you will only end up working yourself out, you must be smart enough to know when you need to leave, you can do two jobs at a time but have a target to put the money into something else than can generate more money. that is how success comes.

I believe what our teachers tells us is not the actual truth but if we read meaning to it from our own perspective then it would make sense. For me labour is the birth of happiness, means you will derive more joy when you work for your money.


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Well I don’t agree with what teachers tell us. Hard work can get you somewhere yes but it wouldn’t be the only thing you should do in order to succeed. In my opinion you need a little bit of luck still. Hard work plus luck is the deadly combo. That would get you anywhere you want in life and further. Though not all of us gets that lucky.
That is very obvious, hard work pays a lot, when someone is very serious with what he or she is doing, and they are very consistent with what they are doing they will surely make out something from it as a reward. Hard work brings people closer to good fortune because whenever you are consistent with your and know much about its people must surely patronize you and be rewarded bountifully. Also, i will rather say that luck and hard work are brothers because they are pre-requisite to each other and without luck someone cannot recognize your hard work. so, it takes the grace of God and luck for people to patronize you and recognize your hard work.

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June 01, 2024, 11:10:41 PM
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As a child, textbooks and teachers have taught us that hard work begets good luck. That is, no one comes into the world with luck, everyone has to make their own luck. The more hardworking and the more serious he is towards his work, the more likely he is to succeed. But there are some people around who look at them and think this saying is not true. Around me, I see many such daily wage laborers, rickshaw pullers or agricultural laborers, who remain at the same position from which they started their life even at the end of their age. It's not like they don't work hard.  

A day laborer works for around 12 hours non-stop and in return they get a small amount of money which they spend in various ways. Here my question is why they are not able to change their fate after working so hard. In this case you may tell me that he is a daily wage laborer or he is a rickshaw driver that is why he is not progressing but he is focused on his workplace and he is working there with full focus so why is he not changing his fate. If a rickshaw driver or a day laborer wants to but cannot become a doctor or an engineer, he has to focus on his profession. What do you say about his change of fate?

There's no 100% correct answer to it but in ideal economy daily wagers should earn more than white collar job holders. That makes the sense for the extra physical effort they do. For my part of the world, daily wage labor earns more per day than a clerk at an office. But if the daily wage earner takes leaves equal to a clerk, their monthly income would be similar.
With the saturation of development work and use of automation and safety measures in physical job, the number of daily wage workers have decreased and the quality of their workplace has increased.
Furthermore there should not be Rickshaw pullers in modern times, the government should facilitate shift them to other jobs or get them a motorized rickshaw. Unless of course they are doing it to keep the vintage tradition alive, where they earn more than other jobs.


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June 02, 2024, 02:54:39 AM
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Hard Work is not just a physical effect, it can be mentally aswell depending on one's nature of job. A business owner has his job and he knows what he's doing but inorder for him to be more productive other than his colleagues in the business is for him to come up with a striking plan by adding something that makes his service more preferable than the others, this will increase the number of people who would want to do business with him, that is also called hardwork not physicality alone.
Great and well said. There are cases where a worker might go the extra mile to do research and do some thorough evaluation just for the sake of the growth of the business such spirit is purely hard work. We don't have to be the strongest worker who moves 50 barrels in 15 minutes or someone who does a number of sales by going several places with his leg. But someone who can devise a means to move those 50 barrels and more with ease or someone who can dedicate his time to increase his online presence so that he can make more sales online and reach the number of people who need his products through steady advert.

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Well I don’t agree with what teachers tell us. Hard work can get you somewhere yes but it wouldn’t be the only thing you should do in order to succeed. In my opinion you need a little bit of luck still. Hard work plus luck is the deadly combo. That would get you anywhere you want in life and further. Though not all of us gets that lucky.

I agree with you, not all things that our teachers taught us is true, some of them is kinda biased because there are people who are born rich and that is because of their parents' hardships or they actually came from the family of the rich. some people is working and striving hard to become successful because that's what imprinted in our mind but if you see some people still not successful and can't see that they are rich, some of them still earning enough for their day to day needs. Sometimes, it's not all about working hard, we should accompany it with practicality, determination and being strategic, we need to atleast learn how to manage our financials, so on and so fort.



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June 02, 2024, 08:15:50 AM
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Well I don’t agree with what teachers tell us. Hard work can get you somewhere yes but it wouldn’t be the only thing you should do in order to succeed. In my opinion you need a little bit of luck still. Hard work plus luck is the deadly combo. That would get you anywhere you want in life and further. Though not all of us gets that lucky.

I agree with you, success takes more than hard work. Some would say "work smart and not hard", which means we should be resourceful as well, but even so, luck plays an important role in whether someone will succeed. So yes, having some skills and some luck is a winning combination.

Here my question is why they are not able to change their fate after working so hard...

I don't think this question has a simple and universal answer. It's a big world, and people must do all kinds of jobs to survive... Often these "regular" jobs are the only choice and that's what we have to accept.


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June 02, 2024, 10:14:21 AM
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I don't believe in luck as a mysterious force of nature or whatever, but I believe in luck as random good events that some happen to get and others just don't. Aside from luck, there are objective social factors that give a person an advantage or a disadvantage. I'm talking about living in a first-world country, living in an urban vs rural area, family income when you're growing up, physical and mental health. Also, let's not forget as race, gender, and sexuality which can differ in impact depending on where you live.
That's why there should be special opportunities for those who are disadvantaged from the start, or otherwise one might work hard while remaining poor.
It's hard to escape the harsh reality, but if there are other professions that can be learned online, or an option to get affordable higher education (this really depends on a country), or special opportunities.

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June 02, 2024, 10:37:14 AM
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Those laborer can change their fate if they have a will and do many things. We lived in this world with the same chance but that depends on every person. Not many people have a strong will to change their fate because many people are lazy to moves from their comfortable zone into uncomfortable zone. They feels that they can accept what happens to them and they can live so far but they don't wants to try to do other things that can change their lives.

It is difficult to change other people perception about his lives because that will needs an open minds to see that they have the same chance to do other things. It is about a strong will and what efforts he will do to reach a better lives and only people who have those things that can change their fate.

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June 02, 2024, 10:56:26 AM
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As a child, textbooks and teachers have taught us that hard work begets good luck. That is, no one comes into the world with luck, everyone has to make their own luck. The more hardworking and the more serious he is towards his work, the more likely he is to succeed. But there are some people around who look at them and think this saying is not true. Around me, I see many such daily wage laborers, rickshaw pullers or agricultural laborers, who remain at the same position from which they started their life even at the end of their age. It's not like they don't work hard.  

A day laborer works for around 12 hours non-stop and in return they get a small amount of money which they spend in various ways. Here my question is why they are not able to change their fate after working so hard. In this case you may tell me that he is a daily wage laborer or he is a rickshaw driver that is why he is not progressing but he is focused on his workplace and he is working there with full focus so why is he not changing his fate. If a rickshaw driver or a day laborer wants to but cannot become a doctor or an engineer, he has to focus on his profession. What do you say about his change of fate?
I think the best way we can serve them is by requesting the governments to increase their subsidies and the daily wages upon what they are working on. This will be the best gift that they can get on their day.

Moreover the governments should take care of the people who pay less than the required wages and they should be punished so that they're will be no one that will take benefit of someones weakness.

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June 02, 2024, 05:00:41 PM
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Well I don’t agree with what teachers tell us. Hard work can get you somewhere yes but it wouldn’t be the only thing you should do in order to succeed. In my opinion you need a little bit of luck still. Hard work plus luck is the deadly combo. That would get you anywhere you want in life and further. Though not all of us gets that lucky.
Personally, I do believe on luck but I never relied into this concept. Hard work plus knowledge is the key. We shouldn't be doing things the hard way all of the time. Depending on luck will just stop you from achieving more than what you were yesterday; if you'd be putting everything on your fate then you should be okay with waiting 'til it's your turn already. Given that it's luck and fate, then there's no certainty when will it be your turn. With what, I guess it is obvious to upgrade the milestone you want to see yourself into. Whether it is with academic or professional life, always keep in mind to do things will full effort. Do not kill your curiousity with things that could give you growth.
 

If you will be given a choice to work on a single job with average salary over discovery of other ways to earn more than your usual, you have to be checking on which will be sustainable in the long run.

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A person can improve in his profession and there is nothing wrong. Probably not everyone will be able to work their entire life at the same job, but there are those for whom this is normal. This may depend on the country in which the person lives and on the person himself. Maybe he is improving himself at his workplace, or maybe work is not the main source of income for him and he views his work as entertainment and an activity for the soul. Maybe there is simply no opportunity to change your life and get an education. For example, a person simply does not have the necessary qualities.

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The poverty they suffer is not because they don't have talent, not because they are lazy, not because they don't have thoughts and ideas, and not because they don't have motivation or goals to achieve better. However, what makes them able to survive even though they remain poor for generations is that this can happen because the opportunities they get are very small. In contrast to those who have financial freedom, the opportunities they have are much greater than those who live in poverty.

When you are poor, even if you have great ideas and concepts about business or whatever, chances are they will never be considered. But when these ideas come from rich people, even if they are not considered good, people will applaud. when our position is very disadvantaged (poor), to be able to get opportunities or earn some money, we have to become sycophants, even become their slaves, eliminating shame and self-esteem.

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