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June 01, 2024, 01:02:51 PM
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?


Probably fair games are basically the house game of most casino. I play this occasionally when I want quick game version blackjack since it is fast game compared to the live games blackjack version

I do play dice before to farm wager when I have an early profit and doesn’t want to risk more to secure profit.

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Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

Probably fair games are pure random code to the randomness set by the code so definitely base on luck alone.

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June 01, 2024, 05:09:05 PM
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?
As long as you don't stop right after a loss, there will be a time that you will get lucky, except only if you are sticking on a scam casino of course. Provably fair games are normal in crypto because I think it is related with the blockchain. I don't have a deep knowledge about it but what I only know is that we can verify our results by pasting some values in a box, while if you mean about the games, then they are the same with other casino games where all you need to do is to place a bet, push that button and watch how the action goes in your screen.

Honestly provably fair games are not capable of bringing any changes in my gambling activities; I mean I am facing same kind of loses at the end of the day. Moreover, there are no specific games to start since the goal in gambling is only to enjoy but you can go on what you truly like the most. Good Luck Smiley.
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June 01, 2024, 05:31:29 PM
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?
I don't usually care about fair games on my previous bets because I only play and then exit but if there really are that kind of fair games then we would be happy if anyone would share it here if they don't mind it. I've been looking for game like that but it's hard to tell not unless experienced gamblers will share their thoughts on it.



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June 01, 2024, 05:43:47 PM
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

What is your understanding about probably fair games? Maybe you can give an example of the games along with the casino so you can get better responses.
However, whether it is provably fair or probably fair, game of luck will always depending on your own luck.
You can win when you are lucky and you can lose when you are on your bad luck time.
How about skills? What kind of skill you are referring to? Skill to play the game to make you have bigger chance to win or other skills?

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June 01, 2024, 11:13:09 PM
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The only difference between what we could call "classic gambling" from provably fair gambling is how the latter offers a mechanism in which there is a way for you to independently proof the casino is not cheating in order to get more money out of you.
Gambling, regardless it is provably fair or not, will be always about luck and not much about skill, in the most of the games.

I personally encourage people to try some provably fair games in their gambling sessions and learn how to use their seed to check the fairness of the game they are partaking in.
In stake, for example, they have they own selection of provably fair games which were done and designed by themselves for people who like either dices, Plinko, mines... you call it. It is called "Stake's originals".
My favorite is dices and blackjack, though I have not had much luck with dices and just moderate luck with blackjack.

anyways. I wish as technology advances people will learn how to check their games and seeds, so the baseless accusations of scams by reputable casinos decrease.

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June 02, 2024, 11:43:54 AM
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

What is your understanding about probably fair games? Maybe you can give an example of the games along with the casino so you can get better responses.
However, whether it is provably fair or probably fair, game of luck will always depending on your own luck.
You can win when you are lucky and you can lose when you are on your bad luck time.
How about skills? What kind of skill you are referring to? Skill to play the game to make you have bigger chance to win or other skills?

In a game of luck there's no skills involved, just knowing how to play the game is already enough. If there is a house edge which certainly what we are discussing here, it would be unrealistic if we believe that we can win with our skills, that's not gonna happen. OP just asking if we are winning in prob(v)ably games, and the answer is yes, because its winnable but all of us still loses in the long run.

For game of luck, it's enough to verify that games are transparent, but at the same time, we should also understand that even  if games are transparent, the house edge still dictate our winning chances, which is lower than 50% all the time.

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June 02, 2024, 12:32:34 PM
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

What is your understanding about probably fair games? Maybe you can give an example of the games along with the casino so you can get better responses.
However, whether it is provably fair or probably fair, game of luck will always depending on your own luck.
You can win when you are lucky and you can lose when you are on your bad luck time.
How about skills? What kind of skill you are referring to? Skill to play the game to make you have bigger chance to win or other skills?
It's probably fair that we don't bet against a system and don't be arrogant in front of a casino because with a programmed system, a coincidence seems rare, it's all just the house's plan, and like regular casinos, the equipment, tools and skills of the house are too professional, someone who lacks qualifications in this field like us will be fooled. It's better to socialize with friends we already know, but of course, it's difficult to talk about fairness when everyone's skills and familiarity with gambling are different, luck is also on the list and it is difficult to balance these independent factors

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June 02, 2024, 12:40:41 PM
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In a game of luck there's no skills involved, just knowing how to play the game is already enough. If there is a house edge which certainly what we are discussing here, it would be unrealistic if we believe that we can win with our skills, that's not gonna happen. OP just asking if we are winning in prob(v)ably games, and the answer is yes, because its winnable but all of us still loses in the long run.

For game of luck, it's enough to verify that games are transparent, but at the same time, we should also understand that even  if games are transparent, the house edge still dictate our winning chances, which is lower than 50% all the time.
that kind of luck game is like that. but it always becomes interesting when we feel closer to victory. Isn't that what gamblers always feel when playing games of luck? The hope is high to win but the odds will not be as we hope.

casinos are considered fair when they pay out our winnings. there is no cheating in games that are already programmed. If you want a bet that you can see the results of then you have to bet on sports betting.

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June 02, 2024, 12:46:43 PM
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

It's provably fair, ensuring the randomness of the results, which is obviously for the game of luck, for example, dice.

You just need to verify the served seed that is provided before each bet and the client seed that is provided at the end of every bet, so with the provably fair verification tools you can verify the results are random or tampered in anyway by the casino.

Server seed (provided by the site)

Client seed (provided by your browser and adjusted by you)

Nonce (A number that increases with each bet you make)

You will get an encrypted hash of the server seed from the site in advance, so there is no way for the site to change it afterwards. It is, however, encrypted and you cannot calculate your own roll results in advance (only after you change your seed).
As far as client seed goes, your browser will generate a random client seed. You can adjust your own client seed if you want to make sure the site does not know your client seed in advance.
Nonce is the number that increases by 1 with every bet you make. Nonce can either start from 0 or 1, it depends on the website.


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that kind of luck game is like that. but it always becomes interesting when we feel closer to victory. Isn't that what gamblers always feel when playing games of luck? The hope is high to win but the odds will not be as we hope.

casinos are considered fair when they pay out our winnings. there is no cheating in games that are already programmed. If you want a bet that you can see the results of then you have to bet on sports betting.

All gambling games are based on luck including sports gambling, at some point we might feel our knowledge in sport betting would guarantee our continues win from the games, but unfortunately even 1.0 odds could make the entire result from the game to be lost. As long as it's predictions we make, it's luck we are depending on except in cases were Its a know fact out side gambling, but as long as gamble is concerned it's all luck. We often believe casinos aren't fair enough when we are at the loosing side and that could be true because the house is always on the wining side, the programmed games can be very difficult to predict because there is no way to compare the possibility of anything happing in there as all code aren't open source.

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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

Skills are not much involved in "provably fair" games and so winning such games does not guarantee that you will win the same way again in the future.
No matter what strategy you try, you won't be able to stay consistent in it as provable fair games depends more on luck.
So if you have a good luck then you can just pick any of the provably fair games and test your luck in them.

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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?



I rarely play probably fair games ever since live games existed. Although probably fair games is open source which means you can verify fairness, sometimes you can’t still trust them 100% especially if you don’t know how the code works. Probably fair games are the old version of casino games since they are basic games like plinko, dice, limbo and other game which you can find on the original category of the casino.

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Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

This games is still like the other gambling games which skills is not required since the game is completely luck based. It’s always based on luck in able to win on this game.
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

I am always of the opinion that gambling depends heavily on luck and just a little bit of skill. You know that before you play a game, you must understand the rules of the game and some principles that can help you win, but you are not really certain that those principles are going to make you win unless luck prevails. Understanding the principles of the game will give you a hint of how to play well and prevent you from being foolhardy, but winning is not still guaranteed. That's to say that gambling is based on luck, mostly, and just a little skill.

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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

Skills are not much involved in "provably fair" games and so winning such games does not guarantee that you will win the same way again in the future.
No matter what strategy you try, you won't be able to stay consistent in it as provable fair games depends more on luck.
So if you have a good luck then you can just pick any of the provably fair games and test your luck in them.
Skills, let alone strategy, are actually not very useful in games with a possibly fair system, I am one of those people who don't believe in a possibly fair system even though I can verify my seeds, in fact not many gamblers win and beat the dealer, in the end the dealer will always win, especially not. There are also casinos that go bankrupt because the game system that uses a system may be fair in their games, it is clearly impossible, basically winning depends on how we use the mindset correctly.

I'm sure that almost all casino games where we play against the dealer will definitely be difficult to win, that's why many people who aim to gamble want to win actually feel disappointed by the defeat they experience so that in the end they become addicted because they don't control their emotions, there are many games that might be fair but actually it makes more sense to bet because for me it is much fairer than other casino games, it all comes back to each person's views and most importantly use a healthier mindset.
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

I am always of the opinion that gambling depends heavily on luck and just a little bit of skill. You know that before you play a game, you must understand the rules of the game and some principles that can help you win, but you are not really certain that those principles are going to make you win unless luck prevails. Understanding the principles of the game will give you a hint of how to play well and prevent you from being foolhardy, but winning is not still guaranteed. That's to say that gambling is based on luck, mostly, and just a little skill.

I agree, but gambling is a lot of different directions, and in each of them luck affects the game in different ways. And in many of these areas, the skills of the game can become decisive in the game:
the betting - skill of prediction strongly affects the outcome of the bet.
Card games (poker, blackjack) are also available.
Casino: roulette, slots - skills have no effect, only pure luck.

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As for “honest” games, it is hardly worth it to focus on them. Of course, games should be honest. But when there is a conversation about honesty, it always means possible fraud. For example, in the game Dais, players are often suspected of online casino of fraud. Players say that casino uses fraudulent programs to increase its chances of winning. Although in fact, when it comes to absolutely random games, the casino does not make sense to deceive. The player will still lose, because in any random game the chances are not on his side.

That's how these games are set up and the house edge is always there. I think if someone doesn't trust websites with their RNG, reverting to sports betting is a good way to ensure that results can be verified and odds can be assessed by the players themselves whether they think they got an edge there or not. I have got the same feeling in the past that when you play roulette or dice you always think that it is impossible for a number to be lower than X again for the 8th time in a row, but that is still quite subjective.

However, this was one reason why I mostly prefer sports betting or any game where I do at least have some influence on the outcome, like playing poker. Although some might argue that poker platforms are full of bots and the RNG might still be rigged, which in theory is of course possible. Hence if I put my bets on a football game like Real Madrid vs. Dortmund, I know that 99.9% the game can't be rigged. It could be fixed, but highly unlikely as I can still see the game with my own eyes and verify for myself whether the referee and the players have done the best job possible.

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June 06, 2024, 04:40:31 PM
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?

Skills are not much involved in "provably fair" games and so winning such games does not guarantee that you will win the same way again in the future.
No matter what strategy you try, you won't be able to stay consistent in it as provable fair games depends more on luck.
So if you have a good luck then you can just pick any of the provably fair games and test your luck in them.
Skills, let alone strategy, are actually not very useful in games with a possibly fair system, I am one of those people who don't believe in a possibly fair system even though I can verify my seeds, in fact not many gamblers win and beat the dealer, in the end the dealer will always win, especially not. There are also casinos that go bankrupt because the game system that uses a system may be fair in their games, it is clearly impossible, basically winning depends on how we use the mindset correctly.

I'm sure that almost all casino games where we play against the dealer will definitely be difficult to win, that's why many people who aim to gamble want to win actually feel disappointed by the defeat they experience so that in the end they become addicted because they don't control their emotions, there are many games that might be fair but actually it makes more sense to bet because for me it is much fairer than other casino games, it all comes back to each person's views and most importantly use a healthier mindset.

Ofcourse we can't beat the casino sites because they are designed in such a way that even if the system is provably fair then we won't be able to win in the long run because of the house edge.
You must already be knowing how the house edge works due to which we eventually keep losing no matter what we do.
Provably fair system is just a way to verify that the bet we are doing is not manipulated.

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June 06, 2024, 04:52:31 PM
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So far as gambling is concerned, no type of game is fair enough as all are based on luck and risks so whichever one you choose to engage in, just play responsibly and don't feel like you could win all the time so it's just left for you to decide the type of gambling that will be convenient for you to play. Provably fair games also involves luck so don't think the games will always be fair enough.

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June 06, 2024, 04:59:17 PM
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I'm currently searching for probably fair games and how they work. Are you guys playing this? If so, which games do you recommend?

Probably fair games, do they depend solely and exclusively on luck or on skills too?
When it comes on dealing with casino based games then provably fairness is something that you would really be needing to check upon but if we do speak about sports betting and card games which its strategic then this is something that you wont really be that needing.. Winning or not then this isnt something that you would really be having in mind so that you wont really be that putting up yourself into such desperate condition or manner.  The key on here is that if you dont really like to experience some headache then it would really be always best that you should be sticking into those known and popular platforms on which you could really be able to assure that you are on the right place.

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June 06, 2024, 05:06:03 PM
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Actually I am a little ambiguous when discussing fairness because after all when talking about fairness then indeed I think it is not very suitable when talking about gambling because even though in the scheme we know that the game is clean but in the end the final result is clear we all realize where the bookie still wins and indeed it does not fit the concept of fairness in my opinion so looking for a game of fairness in gambling I think we must know a lot of games that are sure the settings have been arranged in such a way as to make us win and then immediately lose Cheesy

But for sportsbooks maybe it can be done because however although sometimes there are also some conditions where justice is questioned but for big matches it seems that it is still possible for us to do because in my opinion match fixing is only for bets on small and not too famous matches so this can be a justice where the game becomes clean in the sportsbook.

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