Trump vs. Biden is almost like Bitcoin vs Fiat

[tread93]

I’m just glad I got my bets for President in early because Biden’s odds of winning are sinking like a stone as he continues to embarrass himself and spout lies around the country. Anything can happen when known cheaters are involved, but I think it’s likely that Joe Biden is going to lose the Presidency by the most votes in American history, and I’d make that bet.

I couldn't agree with you more m8! Where exactly did you place this bet btw? I need to make a hefty bet on Trump. At this point if Biden wins its pretty evident that the democrats cheated their socks off and their pants are on fire. America has never been more disgraced & embarrassed since Biden became president. When Trump was the President democrats said the same thing about him but at least Trump has a sharp mind and is business smart. Biden is a completely incompetent old man who bold face lies about everything. He can't make it up the stairs on his own without tripping or even form complete sentences half of the time. The man clearly has Alzheimer's & he is completely protected by our bought out media that fails to report on any of his hiccups, his own son's crimes, but more importantly his own crimes against our country. He has committed treason while at the same time trying to jail his own opponent when he is the very one who should be placed behind bars for selling out America for his families own personal gain. Its a disgrace, its an outrage & a scandal! If this continues on for much longer I wouldn't be surprised to see America at the end of its rope & in shambles or seeing the largest uprising since the revolutionary war. That sounds like a lot and maybe a little overwhelming or even a bit exaggerated but there is a lot on the line here. So much is at stake & I think American's are starting to lose their patience with this administration all while we are the laughing stock of the world.

[pooya87]

Politicians are politicians. They usually lie just to get what they want. Would you imagine Trump not keeping his promises after being elected? Just like Javier Milei once he rose all the way to power. He forgot about abolishing the central bank and replacing the Argentine Peso with the USD or BTC. The same could happen with Donald Trump.

Exactly. And that's the flaw with democracy. Majority of the population are easily fooled by pretty words and vote for the one saying them. Then they forget those promises very easily as well! Today nobody really remembers what promises Trump gave in 2016 and how many of them he had broken by 2021.
This is also why people in Argentina are experiencing 270% inflation.

This is what I was just recently asked and I wasn't sure whether he could pardon himself. Can he literally do that or would he need some kind of majority vote from anyone, the congress I guess? Can he just take pen and paper and free himself of any convictions and sentences? It's absurd.

Technically Federal Crimes can be pardoned by the president without needing anyone else. For example Biden as the president in office can pardon Ulbricht who is someone convicted of Federal Crimes.
However, it is unprecedented for a US president in office to be convicted of such crimes himself to be needing a pardon from himself! So it's like a special case that the legal experts have to discuss when the time comes! AFAICT the law allows it.

What's your guess, will he win it? Or is this rather a 50/50 unpredictable thing? I have this feeling that this guy has some aces of all sorts up his sleeves.

It's unpredictable.
On paper neither of them should even run for presidency because neither are suitable. Both of them are extremely old and incompetent.

So when the choice is between bad and worse you gotta see who is worse, and Biden as the president in office has been messing things up a lot and Trump as someone who hasn't been in office (in past 4 years) can criticize it easily saying he'll do better while people don't even remember the mess he left America with 4 years ago when he left office
 
For example one major thing is the two large conflicts (in Ukraine and Palestine) that has also affected US economy. Biden has been performing terribly there which is what Trump is using very well in his own favor. He simply lies to people that if he wins he'll end them quickly. Obviously the weary people who see Biden's failure, begin preferring that lie!!
It's unpredictable because although some are speculating that things could end in summer but for now the conflict is expanding (eg. Zionists are planning to attack Lebanon, and Russia just placed its nukes close to US mainland in Cuba).

[Marvell1]

I support Mr. Trump's election, but not because he spoke out in favor of bitcoin and cryptocurrency. Everything he says about crypto is more political than he actually cares about it. We all know politicians can do anything to achieve their goals, especially American politics is notoriously messy and there is no trick they don't dare to do.

I disagree when you call Trump is bitcoin and Biden is fiat, because whoever becomes president will represent and have the task of making the USD stronger. Therefore, Trump's support for bitcoin during his campaign does not mean he is representing bitcoin.

We can see who of the two supports cryptocurrency or Bitcoin more, and that is none other than Trump, not Biden. Biden only supported Bitcoin because there would be an election and his term would end.

So if it's just for me, even if I'm not a resident of the US, I'll vote for Trump because I saw how he supported the field of bitcoin and cryptocurrency, to be honest., and I hope he wins this time without fraud happening.

As I said, I do not support Trump just because he promised to support cryptocurrencies if elected, the words of politicians have nothing for us to trust. Don't forget that when he was president in the 2016-2020 term, he also declared no interest in cryptocurrencies, although many years have passed and his views may have changed. But the election is approaching and both are just trying to achieve their goals, so what they say is not trustworthy.

If you want to support Trump just because he said he would support cryptocurrencies, it's too early for you to make a final decision. As a news report I just read, Biden's re-election team is discussing accepting cryptocurrency donations. That means they will also be making crypto-related promises in the near future.
https://www.theblock.co/post/299851/biden-campaign-in-talks-to-accept-crypto-donations-through-coinbase-commerce-sources

[Abiky]

I don't believe anything that politician says during their campaign period as they can change their words later and we can't do anything about that. He might be pro Bitcoin now as he needs votes from anywhere he can get them but when he enters the seats of the president, he'll forget all the promises he gave to the Bitcoin supporters. I think they both are fiats and I don't believe anything any of them are saying. Bitcoin doesn't need any of them for it to keep succeeding.

Any of them that wins won't matter as they can't stop Bitcoin. My thought on this matter is that Donald trump needs to do more than seeking the support of the Bitcoin supporters as he needs more votes from fiats believers than he does from Bitcoin believers to win the seat of the white house therefore he should focus his marketing elsewhere and leave us out of their politics before we become victims when the campaigns are over.

We all know Donald Trump likes the USD more than BTC. His past comments tells us that. The main reason why he changed his views about BTC (and crypto) was to gather the favor of crypto supporters. He wants to present himself as the opposite of sitting President Joe Biden. If Trump was against Bitcoin, he would be no different than "Sleepy Joe". Would he?

For all I know, Bitcoin doesn't need the approval of politicians to survive. It will carry on as usual with or without Trump's support. We can thank Bitcoin's decentralized design for this. If one country rejects BTC, another country will embrace it with open arms. The clock is ticking fast, so the US better gets its act straight before it's left behind in the dust.

[temple]

This is what I was just recently asked and I wasn't sure whether he could pardon himself. Can he literally do that or would he need some kind of majority vote from anyone, the congress I guess? Can he just take pen and paper and free himself of any convictions and sentences? It's absurd.

Technically Federal Crimes can be pardoned by the president without needing anyone else. For example Biden as the president in office can pardon Ulbricht who is someone convicted of Federal Crimes.
However, it is unprecedented for a US president in office to be convicted of such crimes himself to be needing a pardon from himself! So it's like a special case that the legal experts have to discuss when the time comes! AFAICT the law allows it.

Despite a rotten compromise, at least the Biden administration moved their asses to finally let Assange go. Damn that guy looks wrecked like hell. As if any prison sentence would have made the slightest sense after the martyrdom he has been through. Insane story.

I think Biden ignored the Ulbricht topic so far, but Trump made a move as he is essentially blackmailing people into voting for him He says he wants to pardon Ulbricht and do the libertarians a favor if they vote for him. That's essentially what he implicitly says. I have followed the case and it is brutal, since the allegations that he was said to have tried to hire a contracting killer couldn't be proven and the trial was scrapped in 2018 I think.

What's your guess, will he win it? Or is this rather a 50/50 unpredictable thing? I have this feeling that this guy has some aces of all sorts up his sleeves.

It's unpredictable.
On paper neither of them should even run for presidency because neither are suitable. Both of them are extremely old and incompetent.

So when the choice is between bad and worse you gotta see who is worse, and Biden as the president in office has been messing things up a lot and Trump as someone who hasn't been in office (in past 4 years) can criticize it easily saying he'll do better while people don't even remember the mess he left America with 4 years ago when he left office
 
For example one major thing is the two large conflicts (in Ukraine and Palestine) that has also affected US economy. Biden has been performing terribly there which is what Trump is using very well in his own favor. He simply lies to people that if he wins he'll end them quickly. Obviously the weary people who see Biden's failure, begin preferring that lie!!
It's unpredictable because although some are speculating that things could end in summer but for now the conflict is expanding (eg. Zionists are planning to attack Lebanon, and Russia just placed its nukes close to US mainland in Cuba).

Yes both are indeed not suitable. Apart from the incompetency, age is insane and even Trump has had memory issues recently. It's gonna be some "exciting" few months until the end of the year.

[re-start]

I think all this is just for votes and Trump is saying these things so that he can be stronger than Biden in the campaign. In any case, if Trump is really interested in digital currencies and wins this election, many US policies will change and this will be beneficial for the digital currency community.

[Sandra_hakeem]

With Biden vetoing this crypto bill to allow corporations to be their own custodian & just being anti crypto in general & Trump preaching crypto to remain a priority in the US & also saying he would ensure protecting holders rights to self custody. Trump is literally talking about crypto policy with Elon Musk & saying how he is going to do all these things like grant pardons to high profile crypto bros its just wild. Its kind of fun to watch, also very funny how when I think about it Biden vs. Trump is sort of similar to Fiat vs. Bitcoin. Thoughts?

Unless otherwise please, for the safety of feeling neglected after expecting too much, DON'T TRUST POLITICIANS. it's better to follow their propagandas and see the outcome of it than trusting their words.

Trump already condemned and made everything obvious that he was not in support, then he suddenly changed his mind when he knew alot of investors were off their couch to evict him off the position. Whatever it is, I believe Bitcoin deserves a good return at the end.

As a news report I just read, Biden's re-election team is discussing accepting cryptocurrency donations. That means they will also be making crypto-related promises in the near future.

This is it... "They'll always swirl to positions where the wind is stronger "