EarnOnVictor
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July 19, 2024, 03:54:02 PM |
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Currently, there's a pattern. A person makes a new account in BitcoinTalk, makes a topic/accuses a casino of scamming him/her, and because some users need to bump up their post count for their signature campaigns, the topic gets more attention than it should be during a normal situation.
OK, it's understandable that users need to bump up their post count, but we should also be responsible to find the truth, and merely not believing an accusation from a person who literally made a brand new account, nor discussing it with the person like something wrong actually happened. Because actual scammers themselves will take advantage of us.
What, is this really happening in here ? I can't believe people are actually coming up with this just because they want to increase their post count. I mean, it's shame if people are falling to such extent. On the other hand, I think we don't easily believe on newbie accounts anyway unless they post some solid evidence against the casino. I even thought it was something so special when I was reading your outburst not knowing it was about replying to newbie posts. Well, I can only tell you guys to cool down and if there is a post that is suspicious or of low quality, why not report such? Don't forget, what you are alleging is still merely suspicious, what if it's not real? If you are asking someone to post evidence and you can't also prove whether the person is genuine or not, what difference are you? For me, any newbie may post their experience about casinos and they should not be crucified for it, neither are these people replying to it even if they can't offer direct help. So far the post is readable and constructive enough, it has its pass-mark, in my opinion. Also, those who are using new accounts to open threads may have their reasons and we should not always treat such less important. Some may only be readers of Bitcointalk and open a casino account through one of the signature links here. When there is a problem, they might believe Bitcointalk is a place where their voice can be heard, so they may open an account. Some may not necessarily know Bitcointalk beforehand but were just referred here to see if their issue can be solved. Are people not going to websites newly to register their complaints against businesses?
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July 20, 2024, 11:46:35 AM |
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I even thought it was something so special when I was reading your outburst not knowing it was about replying to newbie posts. Well, I can only tell you guys to cool down and if there is a post that is suspicious or of low quality, why not report such? Don't forget, what you are alleging is still merely suspicious, what if it's not real? If you are asking someone to post evidence and you can't also prove whether the person is genuine or not, what difference are you?
For me, any newbie may post their experience about casinos and they should not be crucified for it, neither are these people replying to it even if they can't offer direct help. So far the post is readable and constructive enough, it has its pass-mark, in my opinion. Also, those who are using new accounts to open threads may have their reasons and we should not always treat such less important. Some may only be readers of Bitcointalk and open a casino account through one of the signature links here. When there is a problem, they might believe Bitcointalk is a place where their voice can be heard, so they may open an account. Some may not necessarily know Bitcointalk beforehand but were just referred here to see if their issue can be solved. Are people not going to websites newly to register their complaints against businesses?
Yeah that makes sense. We shouldn't ignore newbie posts just because of their rank just like that. Some people find this platform in the process of reviewing a casino and inorder to raise awareness as well. I guess we need to be diligent enough while reading accusation posts as they deal with someone's reputation. At the same time, I still believe we should ask them for sufficient evidence to back their accusation against the casino.
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July 23, 2024, 04:03:00 PM |
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I even thought it was something so special when I was reading your outburst not knowing it was about replying to newbie posts. Well, I can only tell you guys to cool down and if there is a post that is suspicious or of low quality, why not report such? Don't forget, what you are alleging is still merely suspicious, what if it's not real? If you are asking someone to post evidence and you can't also prove whether the person is genuine or not, what difference are you?
For me, any newbie may post their experience about casinos and they should not be crucified for it, neither are these people replying to it even if they can't offer direct help. So far the post is readable and constructive enough, it has its pass-mark, in my opinion. Also, those who are using new accounts to open threads may have their reasons and we should not always treat such less important. Some may only be readers of Bitcointalk and open a casino account through one of the signature links here. When there is a problem, they might believe Bitcointalk is a place where their voice can be heard, so they may open an account. Some may not necessarily know Bitcointalk beforehand but were just referred here to see if their issue can be solved. Are people not going to websites newly to register their complaints against businesses?
Yeah that makes sense. We shouldn't ignore newbie posts just because of their rank just like that. Some people find this platform in the process of reviewing a casino and inorder to raise awareness as well. I guess we need to be diligent enough while reading accusation posts as they deal with someone's reputation. At the same time, I still believe we should ask them for sufficient evidence to back their accusation against the casino. My experience of reading posts from newcomers complaining about improper actions on the part of the casino clearly shows that in 90% of cases the newcomer accusing the casino is wrong. Simply because he did not understand the rules enough, did not read the ToS carefully and thought that his game actions should have a result that was not the same as it turned out. And such a user usually writes accusations against the casino also in a state of indignation and under the influence of his extremely strong dissatisfaction, usually due to the loss of his money in a particular casino. Moreover, usually such indignant authors of posts simply do not have any real evidence of their rightness in the dispute with the casino. But in a number of cases, the casino is still wrong, but such cases still happen relatively few.
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July 23, 2024, 05:17:26 PM |
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Currently, there's a pattern. A person makes a new account in BitcoinTalk, makes a topic/accuses a casino of scamming him/her, and because some users need to bump up their post count for their signature campaigns, the topic gets more attention than it should be during a normal situation.
OK, it's understandable that users need to bump up their post count, but we should also be responsible to find the truth, and merely not believing an accusation from a person who literally made a brand new account, nor discussing it with the person like something wrong actually happened. Because actual scammers themselves will take advantage of us.
What, is this really happening in here ? I can't believe people are actually coming up with this just because they want to increase their post count. I mean, it's shame if people are falling to such extent. On the other hand, I think we don't easily believe on newbie accounts anyway unless they post some solid evidence against the casino. I have raised this question before, that how come 90% of complaints and accusations we get about casinos promoting here is from newbies. Mostly accounts with less than 10 activity.? Does it mean that old members don't run into such problems or the casinos avoid old members account and do some shitty things with the new members. In the other way round, I thought maybe some old users here create new accounts to complain in order not to bring their old accounts to timeline of the forum. But of what benefit will this be? But I am not much worried because members of this forum know how to identify the truth and lies.
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EarnOnVictor
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July 24, 2024, 10:41:12 AM |
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I even thought it was something so special when I was reading your outburst not knowing it was about replying to newbie posts. Well, I can only tell you guys to cool down and if there is a post that is suspicious or of low quality, why not report such? Don't forget, what you are alleging is still merely suspicious, what if it's not real? If you are asking someone to post evidence and you can't also prove whether the person is genuine or not, what difference are you?
For me, any newbie may post their experience about casinos and they should not be crucified for it, neither are these people replying to it even if they can't offer direct help. So far the post is readable and constructive enough, it has its pass-mark, in my opinion. Also, those who are using new accounts to open threads may have their reasons and we should not always treat such less important. Some may only be readers of Bitcointalk and open a casino account through one of the signature links here. When there is a problem, they might believe Bitcointalk is a place where their voice can be heard, so they may open an account. Some may not necessarily know Bitcointalk beforehand but were just referred here to see if their issue can be solved. Are people not going to websites newly to register their complaints against businesses?
Yeah that makes sense. We shouldn't ignore newbie posts just because of their rank just like that. Some people find this platform in the process of reviewing a casino and inorder to raise awareness as well. I guess we need to be diligent enough while reading accusation posts as they deal with someone's reputation. At the same time, I still believe we should ask them for sufficient evidence to back their accusation against the casino. My experience of reading posts from newcomers complaining about improper actions on the part of the casino clearly shows that in 90% of cases the newcomer accusing the casino is wrong. Simply because he did not understand the rules enough, did not read the ToS carefully and thought that his game actions should have a result that was not the same as it turned out. And such a user usually writes accusations against the casino also in a state of indignation and under the influence of his extremely strong dissatisfaction, usually due to the loss of his money in a particular casino. Moreover, usually such indignant authors of posts simply do not have any real evidence of their rightness in the dispute with the casino. But in a number of cases, the casino is still wrong, but such cases still happen relatively few. That could only mean we've not been reading the same accusations often because, in my experience, the reverse is the case. As you called 90% of wrong accusations are due to the wrong understanding of the casino's Ts&Cs, I call it 10% if I will be fair, and that 10% are often refuted and the OP is guided by the forum users, as no one will come out to support what the OP is guilty of. But in my experience, the 90% are always real allegations that have nothing to do with the understanding of the Ts&Cs of the casinos. What I won't do is take sides but always want both parties to have a fair hearing so that a reasonable conclusion can be made. This is also applicable to those who can't prove their claims, when the casino has blocked the account, I wonder how much prove that such a person can furnish. That shouldn't mean they are lying, believing that will equally be an assumption.
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delfastTions
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July 24, 2024, 05:14:35 PM |
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I even thought it was something so special when I was reading your outburst not knowing it was about replying to newbie posts. Well, I can only tell you guys to cool down and if there is a post that is suspicious or of low quality, why not report such? Don't forget, what you are alleging is still merely suspicious, what if it's not real? If you are asking someone to post evidence and you can't also prove whether the person is genuine or not, what difference are you?
For me, any newbie may post their experience about casinos and they should not be crucified for it, neither are these people replying to it even if they can't offer direct help. So far the post is readable and constructive enough, it has its pass-mark, in my opinion. Also, those who are using new accounts to open threads may have their reasons and we should not always treat such less important. Some may only be readers of Bitcointalk and open a casino account through one of the signature links here. When there is a problem, they might believe Bitcointalk is a place where their voice can be heard, so they may open an account. Some may not necessarily know Bitcointalk beforehand but were just referred here to see if their issue can be solved. Are people not going to websites newly to register their complaints against businesses?
Yeah that makes sense. We shouldn't ignore newbie posts just because of their rank just like that. Some people find this platform in the process of reviewing a casino and inorder to raise awareness as well. I guess we need to be diligent enough while reading accusation posts as they deal with someone's reputation. At the same time, I still believe we should ask them for sufficient evidence to back their accusation against the casino. My experience of reading posts from newcomers complaining about improper actions on the part of the casino clearly shows that in 90% of cases the newcomer accusing the casino is wrong. Simply because he did not understand the rules enough, did not read the ToS carefully and thought that his game actions should have a result that was not the same as it turned out. And such a user usually writes accusations against the casino also in a state of indignation and under the influence of his extremely strong dissatisfaction, usually due to the loss of his money in a particular casino. Moreover, usually such indignant authors of posts simply do not have any real evidence of their rightness in the dispute with the casino. But in a number of cases, the casino is still wrong, but such cases still happen relatively few. That could only mean we've not been reading the same accusations often because, in my experience, the reverse is the case. As you called 90% of wrong accusations are due to the wrong understanding of the casino's Ts&Cs, I call it 10% if I will be fair, and that 10% are often refuted and the OP is guided by the forum users, as no one will come out to support what the OP is guilty of. But in my experience, the 90% are always real allegations that have nothing to do with the understanding of the Ts&Cs of the casinos. What I won't do is take sides but always want both parties to have a fair hearing so that a reasonable conclusion can be made. This is also applicable to those who can't prove their claims, when the casino has blocked the account, I wonder how much prove that such a person can furnish. That shouldn't mean they are lying, believing that will equally be an assumption. On the other hand, if we are talking about casinos that are initially perceived by players as reliable and proven over the years in the market, then the accusations against such casinos are usually not sufficiently substantiated. I talked about user reviews accusing well-known and large casinos of somehow deceiving the player who is complaining. Accusations against fraudulent casinos may of course be fair, this is obvious. And in this case, the 10/90% ratio will certainly not be fair. But let’s also take into account that in negative reviews and accusations from users there is often an intent to create a negative image of a particular casino. And from the practice of such individual opinions, even if they are custom-made, it is clear that this is a fairly strong advertising message. Naturally, competitors use such methods of anti-advertising. And such pre-prepared and paid for, one might say, custom-made versions of accusations against the casino should also be taken into account.
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July 24, 2024, 08:26:58 PM |
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Currently, there's a pattern. A person makes a new account in BitcoinTalk, makes a topic/accuses a casino of scamming him/her, and because some users need to bump up their post count for their signature campaigns, the topic gets more attention than it should be during a normal situation.
OK, it's understandable that users need to bump up their post count, but we should also be responsible to find the truth, and merely not believing an accusation from a person who literally made a brand new account, nor discussing it with the person like something wrong actually happened. Because actual scammers themselves will take advantage of us.
These accusations have been going on since day one. That's the thing when money is involved, people don't like to lose it, yet the very games they are playing are designed to take it from them. The only way that gamblers feel like they might be able to get revenge against a site for taking their money is often spreading false stories or even blowing an insignificant event out of proportion. There are genuine scam casinos like 1xbit/1xbet who have a long reputation for ripping people off and need to be avoided, however most of the other casinos here are generally quite responsive and help users if they have a genuine problem. Occasionally there are just awkward customers that will never be satisfied and sometimes there are mistakes that even the best casinos will make, it's a very fluid situation.
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There are accusations coming in from time to time from this forum and some from other platforms which have never been introduced to this forum before, some of these scam related accusations over the gambling platforms are true while some were not, it all depends on who is bringing in an accusation and whether it is genuine or not, some people are fond of catching fun with unserious matters while some will means business only to rage attack on any platform.
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July 24, 2024, 09:55:52 PM |
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Currently, there's a pattern. A person makes a new account in BitcoinTalk, makes a topic/accuses a casino of scamming him/her, and because some users need to bump up their post count for their signature campaigns, the topic gets more attention than it should be during a normal situation.
OK, it's understandable that users need to bump up their post count, but we should also be responsible to find the truth, and merely not believing an accusation from a person who literally made a brand new account, nor discussing it with the person like something wrong actually happened. Because actual scammers themselves will take advantage of us.
These accusations have been going on since day one. That's the thing when money is involved, people don't like to lose it, yet the very games they are playing are designed to take it from them. The only way that gamblers feel like they might be able to get revenge against a site for taking their money is often spreading false stories or even blowing an insignificant event out of proportion. There are genuine scam casinos like 1xbit/1xbet who have a long reputation for ripping people off and need to be avoided, however most of the other casinos here are generally quite responsive and help users if they have a genuine problem. Occasionally there are just awkward customers that will never be satisfied and sometimes there are mistakes that even the best casinos will make, it's a very fluid situation. If we do tend to look out with those scam accusations thread, then not all people who do make out some post or comments does basically tending to bump up their post count but rather they are really that giving their viable responsible and insights towards the situation. You would really be seeing that it might be repetitive but its actually that having still the sense on where they will really be able to see and even ask for some solid proofs about on such accusation because in every complaints or issues been raised then it will really be just that right that there would be sufficient and solid proofs because once it would be proven out, then it would be surely concluded on which simply means that discussions would be cut off. As long the issues arent that been that resolved out, then expect the community would really be continuing to post no matter what and will really be keeping up bumping the thread until it would really be getting up that attention. This forum is the best place when you are really that trying out to look for real time feedbacks and impressions on any platform on which as long it would be crypto based.
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July 24, 2024, 10:09:45 PM |
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There are accusations coming in from time to time from this forum and some from other platforms which have never been introduced to this forum before, some of these scam related accusations over the gambling platforms are true while some were not, it all depends on who is bringing in an accusation and whether it is genuine or not, some people are fond of catching fun with unserious matters while some will means business only to rage attack on any platform.
I think that for these reasons that you explained, the forum can be considered the best space to deal with these accusations, since most casinos have representation on the forum, and the forum includes the largest crypto-based gambling community. It can easily be seen that all accusations are dealt with literally to show how serious and credible they are, and we have good, reliable, active members in the scam and accusation board. Of course, not all allegations are valid, because there are those who are quick to make accusations as soon as they are exposed to minor problems that may result from a misunderstanding, and also because some dishonest platforms publish malicious accusations in an attempt to destroy the reputation of their competitors. There are people who provide this type of service, especially since it will only require creating a new account to use it to spread defamatory lies.
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July 25, 2024, 08:58:48 AM |
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I even thought it was something so special when I was reading your outburst not knowing it was about replying to newbie posts. Well, I can only tell you guys to cool down and if there is a post that is suspicious or of low quality, why not report such? Don't forget, what you are alleging is still merely suspicious, what if it's not real? If you are asking someone to post evidence and you can't also prove whether the person is genuine or not, what difference are you?
For me, any newbie may post their experience about casinos and they should not be crucified for it, neither are these people replying to it even if they can't offer direct help. So far the post is readable and constructive enough, it has its pass-mark, in my opinion. Also, those who are using new accounts to open threads may have their reasons and we should not always treat such less important. Some may only be readers of Bitcointalk and open a casino account through one of the signature links here. When there is a problem, they might believe Bitcointalk is a place where their voice can be heard, so they may open an account. Some may not necessarily know Bitcointalk beforehand but were just referred here to see if their issue can be solved. Are people not going to websites newly to register their complaints against businesses?
Yeah that makes sense. We shouldn't ignore newbie posts just because of their rank just like that. Some people find this platform in the process of reviewing a casino and inorder to raise awareness as well. I guess we need to be diligent enough while reading accusation posts as they deal with someone's reputation. At the same time, I still believe we should ask them for sufficient evidence to back their accusation against the casino. My experience of reading posts from newcomers complaining about improper actions on the part of the casino clearly shows that in 90% of cases the newcomer accusing the casino is wrong. Simply because he did not understand the rules enough, did not read the ToS carefully and thought that his game actions should have a result that was not the same as it turned out. And such a user usually writes accusations against the casino also in a state of indignation and under the influence of his extremely strong dissatisfaction, usually due to the loss of his money in a particular casino. Moreover, usually such indignant authors of posts simply do not have any real evidence of their rightness in the dispute with the casino. But in a number of cases, the casino is still wrong, but such cases still happen relatively few. That could only mean we've not been reading the same accusations often because, in my experience, the reverse is the case. As you called 90% of wrong accusations are due to the wrong understanding of the casino's Ts&Cs, I call it 10% if I will be fair, and that 10% are often refuted and the OP is guided by the forum users, as no one will come out to support what the OP is guilty of. But in my experience, the 90% are always real allegations that have nothing to do with the understanding of the Ts&Cs of the casinos. What I won't do is take sides but always want both parties to have a fair hearing so that a reasonable conclusion can be made. This is also applicable to those who can't prove their claims, when the casino has blocked the account, I wonder how much prove that such a person can furnish. That shouldn't mean they are lying, believing that will equally be an assumption. On the other hand, if we are talking about casinos that are initially perceived by players as reliable and proven over the years in the market, then the accusations against such casinos are usually not sufficiently substantiated. I talked about user reviews accusing well-known and large casinos of somehow deceiving the player who is complaining. Accusations against fraudulent casinos may of course be fair, this is obvious. And in this case, the 10/90% ratio will certainly not be fair. But let’s also take into account that in negative reviews and accusations from users there is often an intent to create a negative image of a particular casino. And from the practice of such individual opinions, even if they are custom-made, it is clear that this is a fairly strong advertising message. Naturally, competitors use such methods of anti-advertising. And such pre-prepared and paid for, one might say, custom-made versions of accusations against the casino should also be taken into account. I see, I just understood what you are saying, it seems there was a misunderstanding between the direct accusation of cheating/fraud by individuals and that of a normal review of a casino. However, I've been so particular about reviews and I do not take individual reviews for granted, but the exception is that I read them insightfully and make sure that I average the general claims. For example, if I read 100 reviews, I might welcome just 60 of them as some might have ingenuine underdone, which means that my judgement about that casino will be based on 60% (whether positive or negetive) regardless of how they paint the casino. I do this because there are also bad actors that are paid by a rival company or just wanted to cause issues due to their ugliness, and because there are casinos that will pay people to spread goodness about them. Irrespective of that, if it's a direct allegation on any casino, I will always be netrual at first with the both party and will never believe a casinos can't do it like many would assume just because they are reputed. I am only open to contructive defence by them.
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On the other hand, if we are talking about casinos that are initially perceived by players as reliable and proven over the years in the market, then the accusations against such casinos are usually not sufficiently substantiated. I talked about user reviews accusing well-known and large casinos of somehow deceiving the player who is complaining. Accusations against fraudulent casinos may of course be fair, this is obvious. And in this case, the 10/90% ratio will certainly not be fair. But let’s also take into account that in negative reviews and accusations from users there is often an intent to create a negative image of a particular casino. And from the practice of such individual opinions, even if they are custom-made, it is clear that this is a fairly strong advertising message. Naturally, competitors use such methods of anti-advertising. And such pre-prepared and paid for, one might say, custom-made versions of accusations against the casino should also be taken into account. I see, I just understood what you are saying, it seems there was a misunderstanding between the direct accusation of cheating/fraud by individuals and that of a normal review of a casino. However, I've been so particular about reviews and I do not take individual reviews for granted, but the exception is that I read them insightfully and make sure that I average the general claims. For example, if I read 100 reviews, I might welcome just 60 of them as some might have ingenuine underdone, which means that my judgement about that casino will be based on 60% (whether positive or negetive) regardless of how they paint the casino. I do this because there are also bad actors that are paid by a rival company or just wanted to cause issues due to their ugliness, and because there are casinos that will pay people to spread goodness about them. Irrespective of that, if it's a direct allegation on any casino, I will always be netrual at first with the both party and will never believe a casinos can't do it like many would assume just because they are reputed. I am only open to contructive defence by them. The fact that you approach your own analysis so carefully and thoroughly of the real state of affairs in the work of some casino about which you read reviews, testimonials or complaints from players, clearly indicates that you approach this issue very correctly and competently. This is definitely something to welcome and praise you for. But in general, it is sometimes simply impossible for truly inexperienced players to understand the essence of what is happening because they simply cannot distinguish the flow of fake, false information from what is actually happening. This is generally a global problem for the Internet as a whole, and I even sometimes think that the nascent AI most likely will not understand the real picture of the world at all and will present us all with an image of the future in some wild and ethereal form. By the way, this could soon become a big problem for the entire civilization.
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- The majority of the newbies in the forum who accuse a casino are also those who have violated the rules in terms of the condition of the casino they are gambling with. The only sad thing is that others use this forum just to cover up the mistake they made in the casino platform they were accused of.
Although some are correct in the accusation of a casino that they will complain about, and usually these casinos are not reputed gambling casinos, to be honest.
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On the other hand, if we are talking about casinos that are initially perceived by players as reliable and proven over the years in the market, then the accusations against such casinos are usually not sufficiently substantiated. I talked about user reviews accusing well-known and large casinos of somehow deceiving the player who is complaining. Accusations against fraudulent casinos may of course be fair, this is obvious. And in this case, the 10/90% ratio will certainly not be fair. But let’s also take into account that in negative reviews and accusations from users there is often an intent to create a negative image of a particular casino. And from the practice of such individual opinions, even if they are custom-made, it is clear that this is a fairly strong advertising message. Naturally, competitors use such methods of anti-advertising. And such pre-prepared and paid for, one might say, custom-made versions of accusations against the casino should also be taken into account. I see, I just understood what you are saying, it seems there was a misunderstanding between the direct accusation of cheating/fraud by individuals and that of a normal review of a casino. However, I've been so particular about reviews and I do not take individual reviews for granted, but the exception is that I read them insightfully and make sure that I average the general claims. For example, if I read 100 reviews, I might welcome just 60 of them as some might have ingenuine underdone, which means that my judgement about that casino will be based on 60% (whether positive or negetive) regardless of how they paint the casino. I do this because there are also bad actors that are paid by a rival company or just wanted to cause issues due to their ugliness, and because there are casinos that will pay people to spread goodness about them. Irrespective of that, if it's a direct allegation on any casino, I will always be netrual at first with the both party and will never believe a casinos can't do it like many would assume just because they are reputed. I am only open to contructive defence by them. The fact that you approach your own analysis so carefully and thoroughly of the real state of affairs in the work of some casino about which you read reviews, testimonials or complaints from players, clearly indicates that you approach this issue very correctly and competently. This is definitely something to welcome and praise you for. But in general, it is sometimes simply impossible for truly inexperienced players to understand the essence of what is happening because they simply cannot distinguish the flow of fake, false information from what is actually happening. This is generally a global problem for the Internet as a whole, and I even sometimes think that the nascent AI most likely will not understand the real picture of the world at all and will present us all with an image of the future in some wild and ethereal form. By the way, this could soon become a big problem for the entire civilization. Or simply making up some research first before involving wont really be costing you an arm and leg on which it would really be just that not that too hard on doing so. It is really just that there are people who do make out some rush decisions as if they would really be missing out something. If we do really tend to look at on the current market and the reputation of those websites or platforms then it wont really be that too hard to determine on which one is good and which one is bad. You would really be choosing up according into your own preference and choice. Accusations would be thrown or would really be that raised up wont really be that directly be concluded to be legit. Just like the rest been saying that on the moment that issues been raised then the community would really be verifying everything. They wont really be that easily be having that one sided on which everything should be cleared out.If found guilty then they would really be having that negative trust and the entire community wont really be recommending such platforms. Its not really that hard to distinguish on which one is legit and which one is really that having pending issues or simply not that a good reputation.
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July 26, 2024, 12:20:36 PM |
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On the other hand, if we are talking about casinos that are initially perceived by players as reliable and proven over the years in the market, then the accusations against such casinos are usually not sufficiently substantiated. I talked about user reviews accusing well-known and large casinos of somehow deceiving the player who is complaining. Accusations against fraudulent casinos may of course be fair, this is obvious. And in this case, the 10/90% ratio will certainly not be fair. But let’s also take into account that in negative reviews and accusations from users there is often an intent to create a negative image of a particular casino. And from the practice of such individual opinions, even if they are custom-made, it is clear that this is a fairly strong advertising message. Naturally, competitors use such methods of anti-advertising. And such pre-prepared and paid for, one might say, custom-made versions of accusations against the casino should also be taken into account. I see, I just understood what you are saying, it seems there was a misunderstanding between the direct accusation of cheating/fraud by individuals and that of a normal review of a casino. However, I've been so particular about reviews and I do not take individual reviews for granted, but the exception is that I read them insightfully and make sure that I average the general claims. For example, if I read 100 reviews, I might welcome just 60 of them as some might have ingenuine underdone, which means that my judgement about that casino will be based on 60% (whether positive or negetive) regardless of how they paint the casino. I do this because there are also bad actors that are paid by a rival company or just wanted to cause issues due to their ugliness, and because there are casinos that will pay people to spread goodness about them. Irrespective of that, if it's a direct allegation on any casino, I will always be netrual at first with the both party and will never believe a casinos can't do it like many would assume just because they are reputed. I am only open to contructive defence by them. The fact that you approach your own analysis so carefully and thoroughly of the real state of affairs in the work of some casino about which you read reviews, testimonials or complaints from players, clearly indicates that you approach this issue very correctly and competently. This is definitely something to welcome and praise you for. But in general, it is sometimes simply impossible for truly inexperienced players to understand the essence of what is happening because they simply cannot distinguish the flow of fake, false information from what is actually happening. This is generally a global problem for the Internet as a whole, and I even sometimes think that the nascent AI most likely will not understand the real picture of the world at all and will present us all with an image of the future in some wild and ethereal form. By the way, this could soon become a big problem for the entire civilization. Or simply making up some research first before involving wont really be costing you an arm and leg on which it would really be just that not that too hard on doing so. It is really just that there are people who do make out some rush decisions as if they would really be missing out something. If we do really tend to look at on the current market and the reputation of those websites or platforms then it wont really be that too hard to determine on which one is good and which one is bad. You would really be choosing up according into your own preference and choice. Accusations would be thrown or would really be that raised up wont really be that directly be concluded to be legit. Just like the rest been saying that on the moment that issues been raised then the community would really be verifying everything. They wont really be that easily be having that one sided on which everything should be cleared out.If found guilty then they would really be having that negative trust and the entire community wont really be recommending such platforms. Its not really that hard to distinguish on which one is legit and which one is really that having pending issues or simply not that a good reputation. Of course, if one or more times the community of all casino gambling players discovers that some casino was clearly in the wrong in its relationship with a client and somehow treated him unfairly, then this will certainly lead to a deterioration in the casino’s image and, accordingly, to an outflow of clients. Therefore, in my opinion, many serious casinos still strive to ensure that their disputes with clients do not go beyond personal negotiations and do not become the subject of public discussion. However, angry customers still raise scandalous issues about the casino into public discussion, and this has a serious impact on the overall image of the casino. The task of casino support, it seems to me, is precisely to ensure that as few of such scandalous problems as possible go beyond personal communication with the client. This is one of the indicators, by the way, of the quality work of casino support.
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July 26, 2024, 07:39:33 PM |
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- The majority of the newbies in the forum who accuse a casino are also those who have violated the rules in terms of the condition of the casino they are gambling with. The only sad thing is that others use this forum just to cover up the mistake they made in the casino platform they were accused of.
Although some are correct in the accusation of a casino that they will complain about, and usually these casinos are not reputed gambling casinos, to be honest.
I agree, many newbies to the forum violate casino rules themselves and then blame the casino to cover up their mistakes. Unfortunately, this is often used as a way to divert attention from their own violations. Although there are rare cases when complaints about the casino are justified, but most often the problem lies in the gamblers themselves.
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July 26, 2024, 08:07:37 PM |
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This matter probably caught our attention more than once, where hundreds of topics were started by brand new users, more than high ranked users and sometimes the same users accusing multiple casinos with different stories and they end up getting busted and found guilty of illegal activities or breang the casino’s ToS. However, not all the cases are the same, some casinos found to be either slow in responding to the accusation or trying to scam that user, but these case are rare in my opinion.
In general, after posting a valid accusation and it doesn’t matter the rank of the user as long as everything is clear, provided proofs and evidences, we always come up to a closure, and the community here proven multiple times to have a strong effect in solving many cases.
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- The majority of the newbies in the forum who accuse a casino are also those who have violated the rules in terms of the condition of the casino they are gambling with. The only sad thing is that others use this forum just to cover up the mistake they made in the casino platform they were accused of.
Although some are correct in the accusation of a casino that they will complain about, and usually these casinos are not reputed gambling casinos, to be honest.
I agree, many newbies to the forum violate casino rules themselves and then blame the casino to cover up their mistakes. Unfortunately, this is often used as a way to divert attention from their own violations. Although there are rare cases when complaints about the casino are justified, but most often the problem lies in the gamblers themselves. Well, you used the words "most often" which implies that maybe out of 100 cases, it's possible that 90 cases maybe the fault of the gamblers who possibly fail to read and come to terms with that terms and conditions of a site before deciding to play there.. As much as I believe this is true, I would also have to say that it's not always the gamblers fault most of the time though, specially when playing in newer casinos that are yet to establish any form of reputation in the gambling community, some casinos like this most of the time are just as guilty as some gamblers when it comes to issues faced between a casino and a user, and this is why it is often required and requested that the accuser (be it the casino or player) should provide a good and clear evidence or proof of the case being reported, this way, it's easy to tell who is really at fault and who's not.
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July 26, 2024, 09:45:51 PM |
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- The majority of the newbies in the forum who accuse a casino are also those who have violated the rules in terms of the condition of the casino they are gambling with. The only sad thing is that others use this forum just to cover up the mistake they made in the casino platform they were accused of.
Although some are correct in the accusation of a casino that they will complain about, and usually these casinos are not reputed gambling casinos, to be honest.
I agree, many newbies to the forum violate casino rules themselves and then blame the casino to cover up their mistakes. Unfortunately, this is often used as a way to divert attention from their own violations. Although there are rare cases when complaints about the casino are justified, but most often the problem lies in the gamblers themselves. Yes. majority of accusations just turn out to be a complete troll or something that someone who had violated up the terms and conditions of a gambling site platform and ending up on blaming them on the moment that they would really be having that losing situation on which it would really be that likely will someone do such thing on the moment that on extreme disappointment and stress which without seeing those terms and conditions on which on the moment that they have commit something and ending up on getting locked up for funds or not be able to withdraw then they would really be making those scam accusations without even thinking on what they have done. Its not really that hard to read up those terms and conditions so that you wont really be making those things which it would be causing up for you to suffer consequences. As a gambler and tends out to play on new sites then it would really be that reading up real time feedbacks and recommendations and experiences towards the site is always been ideal on doing it first.
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There was a post in earlier in this topic by tranthidung who counted the scam accusations, applied a little math magic on it to show the overall 40-60% of the scam accusation complaints are valid when you have big enough sample. While this number is far from 100%, it definitely shows that it is not true that the most or even the majority of accusations are false or invalid. It is about 50-50. Here it is: As I promised yesterday. Total accusations and cases for invalid, in-progress, inactive, active, unresolved, resolved. Definitions for them, please get there [LIST] Scam Accusation Cases Against Betting Platform on The Forum. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | brand_name accusation_t invalid_t valid_t inprogress_t inactive_t active_t unresolved_t resolved_t | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 1. | Stake 74 42 32 0 8 15 2 7 | 2. | Rollbit_com 68 24 44 5 8 6 0 25 | 3. | BCGAME 54 18 36 10 12 0 0 14 | 4. | Sportsbetio 34 12 22 0 12 0 0 10 | 5. | Fortunejack 21 12 9 5 0 0 0 4 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 6. | Duelbits 17 12 5 0 0 0 0 5 | 7. | Sportbetone 16 0 16 5 4 6 0 1 | 8. | Bitstar 16 6 10 10 0 0 0 0 | 9. | CloudBet 13 12 1 0 0 0 0 1 | 10. | bustabit 12 12 0 0 0 0 0 0 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 11. | BetcoinAG 11 0 11 0 0 0 0 11 | 12. | TrustDice 10 0 10 5 0 3 0 2 | 13. | Vave 8 0 8 5 0 3 0 0 | 14. | DexSport 8 0 8 5 0 3 0 0 | 15. | Chips_gg 8 6 2 0 0 0 2 0 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 16. | Wolfbet 8 6 2 0 0 0 0 2 | 17. | CoinsGame 7 0 7 0 0 3 4 0 | 18. | Shuffle 7 6 1 0 0 0 0 1 | 19. | MaverickGames 7 6 1 0 0 0 0 1 | 20. | WinTomato 7 6 1 0 0 0 0 1 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 21. | Ole7 6 0 6 0 0 0 6 0 | 22. | Betcrypto 6 0 6 5 0 0 0 1 | 23. | Blackjack_fun 6 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 | 24. | Gamdom 6 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 | 25. | Sherbet 5 0 5 5 0 0 0 0 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 26. | Joya 5 0 5 5 0 0 0 0 | 27. | DuckDice_io 5 0 5 0 0 0 0 5 | 28. | fairspin 4 0 4 0 4 0 0 0 | 29. | Coinplay 4 0 4 0 0 0 4 0 | 30. | 500casino 4 0 4 0 0 0 0 4 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 31. | AnonymousCasino 3 0 3 0 0 3 0 0 | 32. | BitDice 3 0 3 0 0 3 0 0 | 33. | 8bet 2 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 | 34. | Yasbet 2 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 | 35. | PineapplePoker 2 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 36. | nftonspin 2 0 2 0 0 0 2 0 | 37. | Metaspin 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 | 38. | Leetbit 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 | 39. | Coinzino 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 | 40. | JacksClub 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 41. | BitCasinoio 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 | 42. | Wild 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 | 43. | WinZ 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
This part is for percent, as guessed by OP, percent for invalid cases is usually high if we count for brands with considerable sample sizes. Percent here for resolved cases are calculated by total resolved cases / total accusations. Indeed, it would be more accurate if we do as follows: total resolved cases/ total valid cases, but I skipped it for now. Edit: I do it as resolved_p2 +---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | brand_name accusation_t invalid_p valid_p inprogress_p inactive_p active_p unresolved_p resolved_p resolved_p2 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 1. | Stake 74 56.76 43.24 0 10.81 20.27 2.7 9.46 21.88 | 2. | Rollbit_com 68 35.29 64.71 7.35 11.76 8.82 0 36.76 56.82 | 3. | BCGAME 54 33.33 66.67 18.52 22.22 0 0 25.93 38.89 | 4. | Sportsbetio 34 35.29 64.71 0 35.29 0 0 29.41 45.45 | 5. | Fortunejack 21 57.14 42.86 23.81 0 0 0 19.05 44.44 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 6. | Duelbits 17 70.59 29.41 0 0 0 0 29.41 100 | 7. | Sportbetone 16 0 100 31.25 25 37.5 0 6.25 6.25 | 8. | Bitstar 16 37.5 62.5 62.5 0 0 0 0 0 | 9. | CloudBet 13 92.31 7.69 0 0 0 0 7.69 100 | 10. | bustabit 12 100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 11. | BetcoinAG 11 0 100 0 0 0 0 100 100 | 12. | TrustDice 10 0 100 50 0 30 0 20 20 | 13. | Vave 8 0 100 62.5 0 37.5 0 0 0 | 14. | DexSport 8 0 100 62.5 0 37.5 0 0 0 | 15. | Chips_gg 8 75 25 0 0 0 25 0 0 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 16. | Wolfbet 8 75 25 0 0 0 0 25 100 | 17. | CoinsGame 7 0 100 0 0 42.86 57.14 0 0 | 18. | Shuffle 7 85.71 14.29 0 0 0 0 14.29 100 | 19. | MaverickGames 7 85.71 14.29 0 0 0 0 14.29 100 | 20. | WinTomato 7 85.71 14.29 0 0 0 0 14.29 100 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 21. | Ole7 6 0 100 0 0 0 100 0 0 | 22. | Betcrypto 6 0 100 83.33 0 0 0 16.67 16.67 | 23. | Blackjack_fun 6 100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | 24. | Gamdom 6 100 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | 25. | Sherbet 5 0 100 100 0 0 0 0 0 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 26. | DuckDice_io 5 0 100 0 0 0 0 100 100 | 27. | Joya 5 0 100 100 0 0 0 0 0 | 28. | fairspin 4 0 100 0 100 0 0 0 0 | 29. | Coinplay 4 0 100 0 0 0 100 0 0 | 30. | 500casino 4 0 100 0 0 0 0 100 100 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 31. | AnonymousCasino 3 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 0 | 32. | BitDice 3 0 100 0 0 100 0 0 0 | 33. | 8bet 2 0 100 0 0 0 0 100 100 | 34. | nftonspin 2 0 100 0 0 0 100 0 0 | 35. | Yasbet 2 0 100 0 0 0 100 0 0 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 36. | PineapplePoker 2 0 100 0 0 0 100 0 0 | 37. | Leetbit 1 0 100 0 0 0 0 100 100 | 38. | Coinzino 1 0 100 0 0 0 0 100 100 | 39. | BitCasinoio 1 0 100 0 0 0 0 100 100 | 40. | Metaspin 1 0 100 0 0 0 0 100 100 | |---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| 41. | Wild 1 0 100 0 0 0 0 100 100 | 42. | JacksClub 1 0 100 0 0 0 0 100 100 | 43. | WinZ 1 0 100 0 0 0 0 100 100 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
I have some theories on why newbies complain the most and not the regular forum users. I think the reason are simply the numbers. There are much less active forum user casino players than non-forum user casino players. If we assume that everyone playing in a casino has an equal chance of major problem happening to them, than it will result much more non-forum users having such a negative experience compared to active forum users. And after such an experience, since there is no way to resolve it satisfactorily, they might come, register and complain as that is the only thing they can possibly do. To get attention and also to warn others. The other reason might be that regs probably read the forum much more thoroughly. Unlike me, for example, who only lurked around to find new casinos to play at. If a casino had a topic with at least 20 pages of posts, I checked the casino out without actually reading those posts. If I liked what I saw, I started playing there. I simply assumed that as the post count increased, so did the credibility of the casino. This is not necessarily the case.
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