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June 19, 2024, 04:03:31 PM
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Manchester City win  Wink
They haven't had much luck this season. But they will win the next one without any problems.  Roll Eyes
They have a great team with a great coach. They have no equal  Kiss
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They are never lucky Wink
Let me give you a hint that it is not a matter of luck but the lack of ability to play against better teams. They can defeat weak PL teams with 5-6 goals and then lose to a stronger team. Whenever they encounter a team in better form, they have problems. It's not a coincidence that they can't reach the CL finals with a team like this. Something doesn't work there when there are matches against top teams and I don't think it will suddenly change.

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June 19, 2024, 05:06:48 PM
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Klopp is already a legendary coach for Liverpool and I think his performances will be hard to achieve once again in the near future of the club and that's why I do not expect Liverpool to perform as high as they did in the last years. Sure , they will fight for top 5 without any doubts but fighting for EPL title will be very hard for them as long as they don't make important transfers and when it comes to UCL , I think winning it it's already impossible for them. However , like you said , the start of the season should give us an idea of what this new Liverpool is capable of.
Next season we will look back at Liverpool playing in the Champions League after this season they are absent, Liverpool journey this season did not go according to the expectations expected by Klopp, the Premier League trophy, the Europa League and also the FA were all lost without them being able to achieve a single one, Klopp farewell of course was not accompanied by a glorious achievement after he had an impressive season with Liverpool so far,  Next season Klopp position has been officially replaced by Arne Slot, so we don't know yet how Liverpool next season will be better or they will still get worse like what happened this season, the arrival of Arne Slot certainly makes Liverpool fans have high expectations for him next season.

Klopp ability of course we cannot doubt but at the moment I think Liverpool fans must be able to support Arne Slot to do his job at Liverpool next season, so far Arne Slot has had very good experience in the Eredivisie league with Feyenoord but I have not found any achievements and also his experience in bringing the team in the Champions League,  So we should look forward to what Arne Slot can do next season to bring Liverpool to be better, especially in the Champions League.

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June 19, 2024, 05:38:43 PM
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Based on your opinion, Real Madrid is not strong teams in Champion League and success become the winner? I don't think true about many top teams loss and left with weakness teams but success qualified until Champion League final round after Dortmund and Real Madrid as the most stronger teams.
For next season, usually team with mentality winning such as Real Madrid has bigger opportunity for winning Champion League and their habit get three consecutive winning after did last several years ago.

The new teams participants such as Bayern Leverkusen or the Europe League winner Atalanta can't guarantee will success in Champion League, although they had impressive performance last season but Champion League has own difficulty since phase group after adopting new format until knock out or semifinal round phase.
They do not have a guarantee to do well, but they are not expected to win it neither anyway. I mean if Atalanta or/and Leverkusen ends up going out of the group stage, which will be a different system for now, but lets assume that they go out of the group stage, that would be more than enough. I think that has to be the most important part, if they end up with teams that they could beat, and they get the results they should, that would be more than what people expect from them anyway.

This is why I believe that the best way to move forward with this would be just realizing that we are going to end up with a good return for them. There is no need to expect them to win the title, that would be expecting way too much from them anyway.

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June 19, 2024, 05:59:11 PM
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I agree with you that Champions League will be more competitive next season. The Leverkusen team is very strong despite not having many star players. On the other hand, Manchester City will try to strengthen their squad next season. Reigning champions Real Madrid have already managed to strengthen their squad by adding Mbappe to the squad.

Just by looking out the clubs we have already gotten an insight of how next season champions League will look like and the clubs that has a very higher chance of winning  and also in the case of Liverpool I would say that they should just focus on the premier League for now because with what they did on this finished season I don't think they will survive on the champions League and also they are still going to go through a little declining in performance as there coach Klopp will no longer be with them next season, so getting use to the new coach will certainly take some time and also Arsenal on the other hand should also focus on the premier League more because that's were they have the higher chance on, however in terms of real Madrid they have already equipped themselves and they are ready for the champions League.
Real Madrid and Manchester City? They are the favorite, the big dogs. Nothing wrong with that. Still, anything may happen in the Champions League. Liverpool, things are changing; a new coach, new enthusiasm. A fresh start can sometimes do wonders. And Arsenal? Though their attention is on the Premier League, never undervalue a club that has something to prove.

Real Madrid, they have an outstanding squad without a question. But that doesnt mean they're invincible. Unexpected events exist in Champions League history. Underdogs can rise and the biggest teams fall. Thats the reason its so exciting.

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June 19, 2024, 07:24:40 PM
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Next season we will look back at Liverpool playing in the Champions League after this season they are absent, Liverpool journey this season did not go according to the expectations expected by Klopp, the Premier League trophy, the Europa League and also the FA were all lost without them being able to achieve a single one, Klopp farewell of course was not accompanied by a glorious achievement after he had an impressive season with Liverpool so far,  Next season Klopp position has been officially replaced by Arne Slot, so we don't know yet how Liverpool next season will be better or they will still get worse like what happened this season, the arrival of Arne Slot certainly makes Liverpool fans have high expectations for him next season.

Klopp ability of course we cannot doubt but at the moment I think Liverpool fans must be able to support Arne Slot to do his job at Liverpool next season, so far Arne Slot has had very good experience in the Eredivisie league with Feyenoord but I have not found any achievements and also his experience in bringing the team in the Champions League,  So we should look forward to what Arne Slot can do next season to bring Liverpool to be better, especially in the Champions League.
In this season, Liverpool must be absent for participating in Champion League after failure reach the top fourth standings position finish but for next season new manager Arne Slot get opportunity after Jurgen Klopp leaving his position and finish on 3rd place. Since winning the Champion League season 2018/19, Liverpool performance not quit well and difficult reach the higher level until final round on season 2021/22 but Liverpool defeated by Real Madrid.

Actually new manager Arne Slot not quit well promising will be success with Liverpool or not because its first time for him managing the Premier League team who know as difficult competition. Had much experienced in Eredivisie is not enough to be capital for Premier League manager and recently Erik ten Hag get difficult when becoming Manchester United manager although he had success before with Ajax Amsterdam. However Liverpool fans get huge expected with their new manager will bring good performance in Champion League and make Liverpool get opportunity reach the final round?

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June 19, 2024, 07:32:16 PM
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Manchester City win  Wink
They haven't had much luck this season. But they will win the next one without any problems.  Roll Eyes
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They are never lucky Wink
Let me give you a hint that it is not a matter of luck but the lack of ability to play against better teams. They can defeat weak PL teams with 5-6 goals and then lose to a stronger team. Whenever they encounter a team in better form, they have problems. It's not a coincidence that they can't reach the CL finals with a team like this. Something doesn't work there when there are matches against top teams and I don't think it will suddenly change.
Too fanatical is also not a good thing, I feel he is too fanatical to see Manchester City not the same but in the final match, there is no luck in my opinion if we see how a team tries to put out its performance as best as possible to get a victory, I saw that when against Real Madrid in the semi-final yesterday Man City and also Real Madrid they competed quite seriously and they put out their best performance, then where is the luck? unless they play jokingly and Man City players make a lot of mistakes which in the end get the victory, that's just called luck.

As speculators need to see and weigh and then judge fairly, just because we support one of them considers the opponent's victory as luck, but hopefully next season Man City can issue its best performance again in order to be at the top of the final,

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June 19, 2024, 07:41:35 PM
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I agree with you that Champions League will be more competitive next season. The Leverkusen team is very strong despite not having many star players. On the other hand, Manchester City will try to strengthen their squad next season. Reigning champions Real Madrid have already managed to strengthen their squad by adding Mbappe to the squad.

Just by looking out the clubs we have already gotten an insight of how next season champions League will look like and the clubs that has a very higher chance of winning  and also in the case of Liverpool I would say that they should just focus on the premier League for now because with what they did on this finished season I don't think they will survive on the champions League and also they are still going to go through a little declining in performance as there coach Klopp will no longer be with them next season, so getting use to the new coach will certainly take some time and also Arsenal on the other hand should also focus on the premier League more because that's were they have the higher chance on, however in terms of real Madrid they have already equipped themselves and they are ready for the champions League.
Real Madrid and Manchester City? They are the favorite, the big dogs. Nothing wrong with that. Still, anything may happen in the Champions League. Liverpool, things are changing; a new coach, new enthusiasm. A fresh start can sometimes do wonders. And Arsenal? Though their attention is on the Premier League, never undervalue a club that has something to prove.

Real Madrid, they have an outstanding squad without a question. But that doesnt mean they're invincible. Unexpected events exist in Champions League history. Underdogs can rise and the biggest teams fall. Thats the reason its so exciting.
A big dogs in football especially in the UEFA Champions League but you will never underestimate the power and enthusiasm of the Liverpool team and their fans LFC can strike back anytime and when they strike back its impact is very hard.

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June 19, 2024, 07:51:46 PM
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I agree with you that Champions League will be more competitive next season. The Leverkusen team is very strong despite not having many star players. On the other hand, Manchester City will try to strengthen their squad next season. Reigning champions Real Madrid have already managed to strengthen their squad by adding Mbappe to the squad.

Just by looking out the clubs we have already gotten an insight of how next season champions League will look like and the clubs that has a very higher chance of winning  and also in the case of Liverpool I would say that they should just focus on the premier League for now because with what they did on this finished season I don't think they will survive on the champions League and also they are still going to go through a little declining in performance as there coach Klopp will no longer be with them next season, so getting use to the new coach will certainly take some time and also Arsenal on the other hand should also focus on the premier League more because that's were they have the higher chance on, however in terms of real Madrid they have already equipped themselves and they are ready for the champions League.

I don't agree with you that Liverpool is not capable of performing in the champions league next season because among all England teams, Liverpool has the highest champions league record because they have won it 6 times while the second club from England which is Manchester united has won the champions league 3 times, Chelsea and Nottingham Forest won 2 times each, Manchester city has just one champions league title alongside Aston Villa that has also gotten one champions league trophy so this is to show that Liverpool still remains the highest team from England that has won the champions league.

Sure Liverpool will struggle to perform without Jurgen Klopp who have managed the team to a good standard within his coaching career with the club even though he didn't achieve many trophies but let us not forget that Liverpool have great talented players so they can perform better than they did last season even though they were not in the champions league last season but for the fact that they made it next season mean they will devote their time to make things work out well for them.

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June 19, 2024, 08:00:23 PM
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A big dogs in football especially in the UEFA Champions League but you will never underestimate the power and enthusiasm of the Liverpool team and their fans LFC can strike back anytime and when they strike back its impact is very hard.
This season it is still uncertain whether it will be like that or not.

Indeed, in the last few seasons Liverpool have always provided a good thing in the competition even though last season they lost momentum because they could not compete in the Champions League but that does not reduce respect for them because Liverpool is one of the clubs that is indeed great until now.

It's just that by looking at the situation that occurs for the internal next season I think we have to see first some policies and transitions made. Next season Liverpool have certainly lost Klopp and the future of several players such as Salah and Alisson is still unclear so this is still complicated for Liverpool.
By looking at this situation, of course there is a doubt, especially since we still haven't seen what the slot will be like so for now I don't want to expect too much in advance for Liverrpool before actually seeing them in the early season matches later.

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June 19, 2024, 08:02:55 PM
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Real Madrid and Manchester City? They are the favorite, the big dogs. Nothing wrong with that. Still, anything may happen in the Champions League. Liverpool, things are changing; a new coach, new enthusiasm. A fresh start can sometimes do wonders. And Arsenal? Though their attention is on the Premier League, never undervalue a club that has something to prove.

Real Madrid, they have an outstanding squad without a question. But that doesnt mean they're invincible. Unexpected events exist in Champions League history. Underdogs can rise and the biggest teams fall. Thats the reason its so exciting.

In champions league, looking down on any team is the biggest mistake you can ever make as a team. Everyone has some kind of potentials in them that has brought them that far to make it to the competition. Just a slight mistake can make you lose against them and that cannot be undone when already happened. The biggest teams base on their most recent performance are Real Madrid and Manchester City.

In the just concluded season, before the match will come to an end, only Manchester City and Real Madrid are the two most favorites team to win the competition and after the elimination of one of them, it was very clear that the other team will win the title and that is exactly what happened in the concluded season.

Every team coming to the champions league next season will be at their best and will fight to become victorious in their respective matches but only the best will win and qualify to the next round of the competition. Waiting to see a more intriguing season coming to us in the champions league next season.

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In this season, Liverpool must be absent for participating in Champion League after failure reach the top fourth standings position finish but for next season new manager Arne Slot get opportunity after Jurgen Klopp leaving his position and finish on 3rd place. Since winning the Champion League season 2018/19, Liverpool performance not quit well and difficult reach the higher level until final round on season 2021/22 but Liverpool defeated by Real Madrid.

I am actually scared for Liverpool to have come this far in football and have nothing to show for it in recent times. Klopp had retired voluntarily and that is a big disappointment to Liverpool because I’m sure they were not expecting him to leave them just like that. Now that they have a new coach, I am still not confident in him making Liverpool great like they use to be. We hope he can improve their performance and not make them lose hope in the fight for the title once again as they did in the last season.

A big dogs in football especially in the UEFA Champions League but you will never underestimate the power and enthusiasm of the Liverpool team and their fans LFC can strike back anytime and when they strike back its impact is very hard.

Enough of the praises on them, we need to see action when the competition begins. They’ve failed to show up for several seasons now and that made me curious why they don’t strike back as they use to in the past. We want to see a more competitive champions league fight and it can only be possible if most of this teams show competency and strength in fighting other top teams to make the competition more interesting to follow. Let Liverpool show that they can too.

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In this season, Liverpool must be absent for participating in Champion League after failure reach the top fourth standings position finish but for next season new manager Arne Slot get opportunity after Jurgen Klopp leaving his position and finish on 3rd place. Since winning the Champion League season 2018/19, Liverpool performance not quit well and difficult reach the higher level until final round on season 2021/22 but Liverpool defeated by Real Madrid.
Yep. Liverpool returns to UCL for the next season, they finished in the 3rd place. Unfortunately, Klopp left Liverpool when they play again in UCL, now they are managed by a new coach (Arne Slot). TBH, I'm not really familiar with Arne Slot, his career looks like in domestic competition. So, this is the first time that Arne Slot manages a top European team like Liverpool. This won't be easy for Arne Slot because managing a big team like Liverpool must have a high target. Moreover, they will play in UCL, they will play against the top teams in Europe. I personally never expect Liverpool to reach their best level again like in the season 2021/22 soon.

Actually new manager Arne Slot not quit well promising will be success with Liverpool or not because its first time for him managing the Premier League team who know as difficult competition. Had much experienced in Eredivisie is not enough to be capital for Premier League manager and recently Erik ten Hag get difficult when becoming Manchester United manager although he had success before with Ajax Amsterdam. However Liverpool fans get huge expected with their new manager will bring good performance in Champion League and make Liverpool get opportunity reach the final round?
Agree. If we look at his achievement and history of his career, we can't be very optimistic with Arne Slot. Moreover, it is always not easy for the Dutch coach managing EPL teams. Sure, Ten Hag is a clear example, he gets complicated situation during managing Man United. However, we can't underestimate Arne Slot, he should have a chance to improve Liverpool. By the way, even I'm a Liverpool fan, I won't be too confident for dreaming the final match for Liverpool this season. There should be always a difficult situation when there is a change in the manager or coach. I just think that Liverpool optimum target to reach the semi-final.


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Every team must try to play with their best but Champions League is a very tough tournament and in this tournament if good quality players cannot be formed in the team then competition with other teams can't benefit. Arsenal have quality players but a clear weakness in their finishing positions.
The champions league has become very tough tournaments and in this case every teams have to been prepared well against next season, if any of the really want to be the part of those that will participate champions league next season. Arsenal have a strong Star players but is there inconsistent that is demoted them, and that's why even when their performance is improving and proud that they want to move forward into better squad they later relax that only arsenal problem.
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Their defense should be a little stronger in addition to the finishing position being a little stronger. If they can do well in these two positions, they will have a good chance of doing well in the Champions League next season.
I think is only few of the arsenal positions that are link if they the others position are doing very well, because even if we look at there defense arsenal defense are try there possible best to maintain their defense position, expecially Saliba the guy is strong player which evey of the Arsenal fans are proud of him. The only thing that Mikel Arteta can do to make the team very standard them before is for him fetch out those positions that are link and put the strong players in that position.

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June 19, 2024, 09:34:54 PM
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Manchester City win  Wink
They haven't had much luck this season. But they will win the next one without any problems.  Roll Eyes
They have a great team with a great coach. They have no equal  Kiss
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They are never lucky Wink
Let me give you a hint that it is not a matter of luck but the lack of ability to play against better teams. They can defeat weak PL teams with 5-6 goals and then lose to a stronger team. Whenever they encounter a team in better form, they have problems. It's not a coincidence that they can't reach the CL finals with a team like this. Something doesn't work there when there are matches against top teams and I don't think it will suddenly change.
With the squad of Manchester City, there are also said to contest in this season's Champions League. We also know that Real Madrid is almost in the finals of this season's Champions League even when it has not started. These things are not coincidences. But that is this quality of the team they have. That is the amount of money they put in the market in the name of investment. That is the quality of coaches they hire. You cannot beat them if you are not prepared. You cannot beat them if you are not willing to buy good players, you cannot beat them if you don't want to change your training facilities, you cannot beat them if you don't want to hire what class coaches.

It is not a coincidence and it is not luck that this it is not a coincidence and it is not luck that these clubs keep doing well for a long period of time. I remembered Manchester City was not a big team a decade ago, but they made financial sacrifice to upgrade the team and by now they must have ripped more than enough they committed during the upgrading period.

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I think Mbappe will be a player with discipline in Madrid because it is his dream team, he will do his best to make histories and brake records in Madrid so that his name will always be remembered in the history Madrid just as other big players that has contributed positively to the team.

I hope so, well it's not like I'm going to impose things, it's something that doesn't fit much, however things are always like that given that when you arrive at a house that is not yours, you have to adapt to the rules that they already have, and not to the rules that that person wants to implement, that is the law, however, famous players always believe that they are superior to others and that is when the problems start, I hope that doesn't happen with Mbappé, I consider that he is already a much more mature player and he is in a club that is very big, not just anyone enters Madrid and that represents a lot in terms of professionalism.

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Real Madrid and Manchester City? They are the favorite, the big dogs. Nothing wrong with that. Still, anything may happen in the Champions League. Liverpool, things are changing; a new coach, new enthusiasm. A fresh start can sometimes do wonders. And Arsenal? Though their attention is on the Premier League, never undervalue a club that has something to prove.

Real Madrid, they have an outstanding squad without a question. But that doesnt mean they're invincible. Unexpected events exist in Champions League history. Underdogs can rise and the biggest teams fall. Thats the reason its so exciting.
Yes. Currently, Real Madrid and Man City are favorites to win the UCL League trophy next season. This is because other big teams such as Bayern Munich, Barcelona and others are still in the stage of strengthening their teams because with a new coach of course they have to adapt and there are many things that have to be fixed. Real Madrid and Man City seem to be better prepared for next season because their squads are complete, starting from the main players and reserve players, so the coach can freely rotate players because of course each team has the same busy match schedule, this will have an impact. on player fitness.

Moreover, with the new UCL league system, of course their match schedule is increasing, of course this will be very troublesome if the teams don't have a balanced squad. However, this prediction could change if the transfer window opens, purchasing players from each team will change the team's performance. The new teams that will play in the UCL league next season will also make surprises, such as Leverkusen and Atalanta.

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June 19, 2024, 10:43:54 PM
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I agree with you that Champions League will be more competitive next season. The Leverkusen team is very strong despite not having many star players. On the other hand, Manchester City will try to strengthen their squad next season. Reigning champions Real Madrid have already managed to strengthen their squad by adding Mbappe to the squad.
Just by looking out the clubs we have already gotten an insight of how next season champions League will look like and the clubs that has a very higher chance of winning  and also in the case of Liverpool I would say that they should just focus on the premier League for now because with what they did on this finished season I don't think they will survive on the champions League and also they are still going to go through a little declining in performance as there coach Klopp will no longer be with them next season, so getting use to the new coach will certainly take some time and also Arsenal on the other hand should also focus on the premier League more because that's were they have the higher chance on, however in terms of real Madrid they have already equipped themselves and they are ready for the champions League.

I don’t know why you think Liverpool will not be able to compete in the upcoming Champions League competition. Is it that you underrate them that much or what? Because you don’t really understand, don’t forget what Liverpool did at the Premier League competition this season. They were trying their possible best to compete with all those big clubs, although they later went down and their performances started declining. But that doesn't mean they will not do more in the Champions League. Liverpool are also good enough to compete, so let’s watch and see how they will come through this season.

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June 19, 2024, 10:58:34 PM
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It's just that by looking at the situation that occurs for the internal next season I think we have to see first some policies and transitions made. Next season Liverpool have certainly lost Klopp and the future of several players such as Salah and Alisson is still unclear so this is still complicated for Liverpool.
By looking at this situation, of course there is a doubt, especially since we still haven't seen what the slot will be like so for now I don't want to expect too much in advance for Liverrpool before actually seeing them in the early season matches later.


You're just being reasonable and there's nothing wrong

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June 19, 2024, 11:02:19 PM
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A big dogs in football especially in the UEFA Champions League but you will never underestimate the power and enthusiasm of the Liverpool team and their fans LFC can strike back anytime and when they strike back its impact is very hard.
Striking back anytime is something I believe Liverpool can comfortably do during the times they had klop as their coach, but in present times, I don't know how well that will be applicable because they may not be able to have that kind of form and mentality they had with klop, Liverpool under klop had a stable form and the strong and firm mentality klop had was such that he could possibly get to make his boys deliver even at points where they may have lost faith in their own ability, I believe they are at this point going to be able to see how well they can build up again capitalizing on the legacy of klop with their new coach.

In that champions league, much shouldn't be really expected of Liverpool this season as they may not be able except if they probably get along with their new coach quick enough such that his patterns and tactics are similar to that of their former coach getting them to be able to adapt to the new strategies without much stress or having to even stress much enough before they are able to really get to play well enough. But I still believe that since they have been able to maintain their depth, they may literally not find it too hard to be able to get through the season with their form and performance aswell.

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June 19, 2024, 11:38:53 PM
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Diego Simeone has been managing Athletico Madrid for nearly 700 or so games if I am not wrong, which is quite a lot and something we do not see that often anymore, because most teams just change their managers like they are changing a sock so we do not get to see this many teams with the same manager all that often.
A coach staying very long in a team is good  but there ought to be a limit that will based on the achievements of the coach and the progress they gave made as well. To me a good coach should be able to prove himself within a period of five years. Diego Semeone is a good coach no doubt, but the results he has achieved in Atletico Madrid, in my opinion, is less than expectations and the name of Atletico Madrid. I remember he has lost Champions league final about twice which is 2014 and 2016. This to me is not a good one and if I were to be the management of the club, I would have tried another coach.



If a new manager is appointed in a club and he is removed from the team in the next season, then we say that the manager should be given more time because a manager cannot fully apply his skills in one season.


Changing managers in clubs is normal for them, it takes time for a person to manage the team properly. But experienced matches and experienced team managers are definitely experienced people. Because you would not have been given the job as a manager of a club without experience, you look at other clubs changing managers.

But if a manager takes charge of the same team for five consecutive seasons and cannot bring significant changes in the performance of that team, then the club should exclude that manager and plan anew. A manager who has not done well for the team in five years will not do well in the future. We may have forgotten the last time Atlético Madrid performed to our liking. They are not seen to perform significantly in either the Champions League or La Liga. I would definitely support a change of manager if their club's performance changes by changing the manager.

Of course a manager has been given five seasons to run a club, you see where that person will end up if he is properly experienced and fails to manage the team? Huh. So no matter what we say, a manager with experience must manage the team right from the start. And will try to make the most of his experience and apply the experience to the players. 
If a person manages a club for a long time then he must be able to manage based on experience, not opportunity but experience.


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