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July 18, 2024, 05:49:57 PM
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It depends on how Arsenal can improve next season, if they can improve significantly enough then they will be able to go even further in the Champions League. However, on the other hand, if they cannot improve their performance next season, then they will not be able to do much and perhaps qualifying from the group stage will be their achievement, after which they will be eliminated again by the fierce competition in the Champions League.
The team that will join their group is also something that will determine, if they join a relatively easy group, then maybe they will be able to easily qualify for the knockout rounds, but if they join the hell group it will be a challenge for them. But the draw is luck, they definitely hope they can be in a relatively easy group.

Arsenal's performance is unpredictable because they always start the season perfectly, but at the end, they always mess everything up in the Champions League. I can’t confidently say how their performance will be, but I can see that many teams are preparing for the next season, so they can perform very well. I believe Arsenal are also doing the same thing so that they will be a wonder next season.

 Although I know that only a few teams will be a challenge for them since they are not, that should be underrated too, but still, Arsenal always end up the season with nothing, which is always a bad result for them. But maybe next season will be a better season for Arsenal, like other seasons have achieved many things before. 

That's the moment when I realize that some people on this forum are delusional about some clubs and possible performances in the toughest league in the world. Arsenal finished the season with 89 points and a winning streak of 6 games! Is that what you call "mess up"? In my opinion it is remarkable how they played last season once again, but as we all know there is a team in the Premier League that can step up their game any moment when necessary and that is Manchester City. That is what they are doing without mercy. 89 points is a strong result. But it is not enough.

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July 18, 2024, 06:32:04 PM
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As I already said, the next season will be decisive - if Arsenal does not take the title, then progress will be replaced by regression.
Arsenal must be able to win the title next season. They already have a solid squad and they have been runners-up twice in the EPL. I'm not saying Arsenal should be EPL champions because that's quite difficult. But at least Arsenal can get one trophy this season. The Arsenal squad is currently in their best performance. I think if they fail to get the trophy again this will affect the players' confidence.
The previous season, Arsenal managed to advance to the quarter-finals before finally being defeated by Munich. I think it's already a good result but they deserve to go further in the UCL.

I want to believe that Arsenal can do this, but bookmakers continue to rate Arsenal as the second team contending for the title:

Manchester City - 2.10

Arsenal - 2.88

Liverpool - 8.00

Chelsea - 21.00

Manchester United - 26.00

Newcastle United - 26.00

Tottenham Hotspur - 34.00

Arsenal are rated very well and their advantage over Liverpool, Chelsea and the rest is large, but City are rated about 30% better.
As for the Champions League, it is difficult to predict anything further than 1/8 - everything will depend on the draw, and taking into account the new format, maybe we will immediately get interesting pairings in 1/8.

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July 18, 2024, 06:32:40 PM
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2nd qualification stages of champion league will begin next week and at least 28 teams total will compete to gets 14 tickets for 3rd round of qualification stages and i have seen some of familiar teams such as Fenerbahce, Sparta Prague, Qarabag and Ludogorets will starting their journey in champion league through an 2nd qualification stages so it's quite interesting to see which teams who can able to beat their opponents and advances to the next round

However i was interested to see Qarabag performance during this stages because last season they had successfully to surprised us because Qarabag is almost beat Leverkusen on round of 16 of Europa league and Qarabag opponent is Lincoln F.C and actually this is repeat match for both teams because last season whether it Lincoln F.C and Qarabag has been met each other in this stages and at that time Qarabag can beat Lincoln F.C twice and for this match too i am confident Qarabag can able to beat Lincoln F.C again

Besides Qarabag i want to know Fenerbahce performance in this competition and this team currently was trained by Mourinho and we all know Mourinho is a big name in Europa and i have no doubt with his experience to train big teams and for 2nd qualification stages Fenerbahce will fight against the team from Swiss league FC Lugano and on the paper seems Fenerbahce also will gets easy win from this match

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July 18, 2024, 06:39:24 PM
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I also see Arsenal as a team that can still be quite strong next season so that some of their closest rivals last season also still have to be wary of Arsenal as their competitor in the race for the Premier League trophy. Likewise in the Champions League because Arsenal could perform better next season and be able to reach a quite crucial stage so that their rivals will still see Arsenal as an opponent that needs to be eliminated early before heading to the quite crucial stages in the Champions League.
Arsenal are still very much a contender for the premier league title and all teams needs to be wary of them, i believe they would be better prepared than last season. It was unfortunate for them not to have won the league but they gave it their best shot, if they get a better striker i believe they should be able to challenge better than before. For the Champions League i believe they lacked experience that was why they lost, most of the players haven’t had any champions league experience last season but this coming season they would perform even better.

I don't think any team is afraid or worried about Arsenal's presence and in fact other strong teams are wary of teams full of history who have always been regular champions of the league. Maybe Arsenal is very scary for any team in the same group but after that they are nothing more than a team that can be knocked out easily.
This is funny but you said the fact, Arsenal are still lacking in experience to challenge stronger teams and most teams frequently play in the Champions League have more threat than Arsenal but in a few years they would also get to that level if they are able to maintain their performance and qualify for the champions league every year.

That's the moment when I realize that some people on this forum are delusional about some clubs and possible performances in the toughest league in the world. Arsenal finished the season with 89 points and a winning streak of 6 games! Is that what you call "mess up"? In my opinion it is remarkable how they played last season once again, but as we all know there is a team in the Premier League that can step up their game any moment when necessary and that is Manchester City. That is what they are doing without mercy. 89 points is a strong result. But it is not enough.
If you don’t want to be sentimental as a fan what happened to Arsenal last season was really embarrassing and everyone expected them to have learned from their mistake in the previous season. Losing a crucial match woefully against Aston Villa was the mistake that Manchester City capitalized on to win the title such mistakes should’ve been avoided especially towards the end of the season. Looking at the situation i will also say they Messed up because the whole outstanding performance all amount to nothing.

 
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July 18, 2024, 06:47:40 PM
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It depends on how Arsenal can improve next season, if they can improve significantly enough then they will be able to go even further in the Champions League. However, on the other hand, if they cannot improve their performance next season, then they will not be able to do much and perhaps qualifying from the group stage will be their achievement, after which they will be eliminated again by the fierce competition in the Champions League.
The team that will join their group is also something that will determine, if they join a relatively easy group, then maybe they will be able to easily qualify for the knockout rounds, but if they join the hell group it will be a challenge for them. But the draw is luck, they definitely hope they can be in a relatively easy group.

Arsenal's performance is unpredictable because they always start the season perfectly, but at the end, they always mess everything up in the Champions League. I can’t confidently say how their performance will be, but I can see that many teams are preparing for the next season, so they can perform very well. I believe Arsenal are also doing the same thing so that they will be a wonder next season.

 Although I know that only a few teams will be a challenge for them since they are not, that should be underrated too, but still, Arsenal always end up the season with nothing, which is always a bad result for them. But maybe next season will be a better season for Arsenal, like other seasons have achieved many things before. 

This has been the problem with Arsenal, at a time when everyone will trust them to win a title they will begin to drop in performance and even losing matches to lesser clubs and it's very annoying when after winning bigger club they will now bow to smaller teams and this has been a major problem for Arsenal even during the time of Arsene Wenger. Arsenal have made it difficult for people to strongly bank on them to win the champions league due to their previous performances so I don't blame anyone who one who looks down on Arsenal especially within the champions league setting because if they continue this way a time will come when they will be finding it difficult to make it to the champions league because they won't be able to make it to the top 4 positions in the league table.

For so many seasons now Arsenal has not been able to win a major trophy which is a very bad impression for an elite team like Arsenal because England top four teams will be incomplete if Arsenal is not mentioned but I wonder what the problem of the team have been. In the last two seasons they performed extraordinarily well but to win a trophy has became a very big challenge because no matter how strong a team is, the only thing that can crown their efforts is winning a trophy so Arsenal should buckle up now and think about how they can be able to win a major trophy.

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July 18, 2024, 07:15:42 PM
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Arteta’s aim is to win trophy for Arsenal next season. The team’s main target is the EPL, they wants to show their quality to win the Premier League ahead of Manchester City because they have gone far; the team is improving massively and yo be a runner up in two consecutive seasons is not easy, they lost the Premier League title in their last match of the season which shows that they can win it next season.

If Arteta can get a better chance to go far in the Champions League, they will do so because Arsenal is in need of all these trophies including the Champions League and any other Cup they will be playing next season.
Arsenal must be ready with all the targets they are aiming for next season, both UCL and EPL, of course they must focus as best as possible. Last season failure in the race for the EPL trophy was very painful because Arsenal was only 2 points behind Manchester City, so last season's failure should be a valuable lesson for the Arsenal squad this season. Arsenal overall strength is quite strong and they continue to show good concentration as they have done in previous seasons.

This season, Arsenal of course wants to win a prestigious trophy because they have been fasting for a title for too long. So I'm sure Arteta will make an effort to overhaul the team in every weak spot in the transfer market this time. Of course fans will hope that Arsenal can go further in the Champions League this season because in the previous season they were eliminated in the quarter-finals.

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July 18, 2024, 07:37:33 PM
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Arteta’s aim is to win trophy for Arsenal next season. The team’s main target is the EPL, they wants to show their quality to win the Premier League ahead of Manchester City because they have gone far; the team is improving massively and yo be a runner up in two consecutive seasons is not easy, they lost the Premier League title in their last match of the season which shows that they can win it next season.

If Arteta can get a better chance to go far in the Champions League, they will do so because Arsenal is in need of all these trophies including the Champions League and any other Cup they will be playing next season.
The UEFA Champions League title is not easy as it seems, it involves alot of fighting actions exerted by elite clubs. Arsena was my favorite considering their epic form. l are ready for the big chances next season. They're probably one of the consistent clubs in the English Premier League but they've failed woefully to win the EPL title which is regarded to be one of top title for an elite club. Mikel Arteta will empowered his squad next season, he's bringing on tight tactics towards his opponents.
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July 18, 2024, 07:41:47 PM
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Regarding that we will talk about the percentage of who has a higher chance of becoming champion in the Champions League. However, it is not automatically the case that the team that has a high percentage of chances will become champions, they need to prove themselves by playing well too. There are several teams that have a high percentage of opportunities but they ultimately fail too, let's say Leverkusen last season in the Europa League, they lost in the final round.
These are examples of different competitions, and let's take the example of the Champions League itself. Last season, Manchester City was the team with the highest percentage to become champions, but they also failed because they lost to the team with the percentage below them, Real Madrid. It only opens up opportunities, what determines is the game on the field. Whoever is better will win, don't forget other things such as mentality and luck which are sometimes determining factors.
If all predictions were accurate then there will not be any need to watch the games, and that is what makes sports interesting, however casinos are experts at calculating those odds as that is the most important part of their business, so chances are that one of the teams at the top will get the championship, however at this time the overwhelming favorite seems to be Real Madrid, and if its players can remain healthy, it is going to be a real challenge for other teams to beat them.
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Arteta’s aim is to win trophy for Arsenal next season. The team’s main target is the EPL, they wants to show their quality to win the Premier League ahead of Manchester City because they have gone far; the team is improving massively and yo be a runner up in two consecutive seasons is not easy, they lost the Premier League title in their last match of the season which shows that they can win it next season.

If Arteta can get a better chance to go far in the Champions League, they will do so because Arsenal is in need of all these trophies including the Champions League and any other Cup they will be playing next season.
The UEFA Champions League title is not easy as it seems, it involves alot of fighting actions exerted by elite clubs. Arsena was my favorite considering their epic form. l are ready for the big chances next season. They're probably one of the consistent clubs in the English Premier League but they've failed woefully to win the EPL title which is regarded to be one of top title for an elite club. Mikel Arteta will empowered his squad next season, he's bringing on tight tactics towards his opponents.
Arsenal is up to contesting for the Premier League but not for the Champions League, even if we still can't tell what the coming season has installed but it will take Arsenal a lot more than what they already plan on doing. It comes with a lot of motivation, for them losing enough opportunities to secure their PL title and has remained incompetent now heading for the Champions League, it doesn't fit in, everything here would require gradual steps and the next for them is to win the EPL and then set their target higher for the Champions League.

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No matter about Arsenal who managed to improve the quality of the team because anyway, Arsenal will only focus on the Premier League and not for the Champion League.
For the past two seasons, we can see how desperate Arsenal is to win the Premier League, not that they don’t also want to win the Champions League, but they will prefer the Premier League, and since Arsenal have really tried hard to win the Premier League in the last two seasons but ended up in second place, next season is another season for them to try harder. But next season champions league winner should be between Manchester City or Real Madrid. I don’t always expect much from Arsenal in the champions league, because their performance is always kind of poor in champions league.

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If all predictions were accurate then there will not be any need to watch the games, and that is what makes sports interesting, however casinos are experts at calculating those odds as that is the most important part of their business, so chances are that one of the teams at the top will get the championship, however at this time the overwhelming favorite seems to be Real Madrid, and if its players can remain healthy, it is going to be a real challenge for other teams to beat them.

Some people actually take predictions of games to seem like a 100 percent thing forgetting that it's all speculation. No sports can be 100 percent correct or forecasted. It will always be based on predictions and most of the time, the degree of accuracy of most predictable games are due to the strength of the teams involved in the challenge. When you have bigger teams challenging small ones, you have situation where predictions are tilted towards favoring the bigger teams than the small ones.

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I think arsenal have a problem not only in the squad but also in the mentality of the team, I have repeatedly noticed how in the most important moments they make mistakes that end up being solvable. Last season, compared to the previous one, things were much better, but still not perfect. But it's fair to say that Manchester City made a lot of mistakes last season, too. Besides, for the Champions League, the psychological stability of the team is very important
Is it about mentality or form of strength which is still considered weak when faced with stronger teams. Of course, the question of mentality is something that is often said, especially in the Champions League. Of course, in the Champions League, every team must be able to exert extra strength when they face a team they have never faced. If you look at the changes made by Arteta, of course he has made great progress in improvement after improvement, but if Arteta continues to fail in bringing trophies, of course in the final assessment he will fail to make changes.
Arsenal target may not be the UCL trophy but they are more focused on the EPL trophy as they did in the previous season. I think they need to lift the EPL trophy first before focusing their strength on the Champions League.

I'm not arguing with the fact that Arteta has brought big changes to the team, and they have led to better things, as arsenal appear to be getting more consistent and stronger each season. They fought honourably in the Champions League this year, losing only by one game to Bayern, who are considered very serious opponents. Hopefully next season they will be even stronger

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If all predictions were accurate then there will not be any need to watch the games, and that is what makes sports interesting, however casinos are experts at calculating those odds as that is the most important part of their business, so chances are that one of the teams at the top will get the championship, however at this time the overwhelming favorite seems to be Real Madrid, and if its players can remain healthy, it is going to be a real challenge for other teams to beat them.

Real Madrid continue to remain the most dominant team in the champions league and are more preferred to win the champions league next season against unless proven otherwise by a worthy team. The game is very difficult to predict but with the current squad of Real Madrid, you’ll have little to no doubt that they’ll be the next champions of the champions league again. I have already seen a lot of worthy teams that can stand them but not until the game begins fully for next season, I don’t think we can be sure of a team that can beat them and win the trophy.

No matter about Arsenal who managed to improve the quality of the team because anyway, Arsenal will only focus on the Premier League and not for the Champion League.
For the past two seasons, we can see how desperate Arsenal is to win the Premier League, not that they don’t also want to win the Champions League, but they will prefer the Premier League, and since Arsenal have really tried hard to win the Premier League in the last two seasons but ended up in second place, next season is another season for them to try harder. But next season champions league winner should be between Manchester City or Real Madrid. I don’t always expect much from Arsenal in the champions league, because their performance is always kind of poor in champions league.

The last outing in the champions league that Arsenal had was a very horrible one before the recent one and it took them up to a decade before they could participate in the competition again. With what they played in the last season in the champions league, I gave some sense of hope in them that they’ll do better this season even if they are not the most favourite to win the Champions League. They can go a step further and at least show what they’re capable of as a changed team since they had the new manager Mikel Arteta.

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It depends on how Arsenal can improve next season, if they can improve significantly enough then they will be able to go even further in the Champions League. However, on the other hand, if they cannot improve their performance next season, then they will not be able to do much and perhaps qualifying from the group stage will be their achievement, after which they will be eliminated again by the fierce competition in the Champions League.
The team that will join their group is also something that will determine, if they join a relatively easy group, then maybe they will be able to easily qualify for the knockout rounds, but if they join the hell group it will be a challenge for them. But the draw is luck, they definitely hope they can be in a relatively easy group.

Arsenal's performance is unpredictable because they always start the season perfectly, but at the end, they always mess everything up in the Champions League. I can’t confidently say how their performance will be, but I can see that many teams are preparing for the next season, so they can perform very well. I believe Arsenal are also doing the same thing so that they will be a wonder next season.

 Although I know that only a few teams will be a challenge for them since they are not, that should be underrated too, but still, Arsenal always end up the season with nothing, which is always a bad result for them. But maybe next season will be a better season for Arsenal, like other seasons have achieved many things before. 

Arsenal's performance has fluctuated over the years, but they have yet to win the league or Champions League. Arteta must improve the team's performance in the upcoming season to help them win the Premier League. In the previous two seasons, Arsenal performed well and thought they would win the league, but Manchester City defeated them and won the Cup, and again last season. everyone thinking they will do well and win the trophy and they still perform poor and Manchester City get opportunities and win them again, So he will have a difficult time winning the Champions League since they cannot compete with the Premier League and must first win the league title before having a chance to win the UCL. They still have a long way to go, and based on their current performance, I don't believe they are ready to win the UCL and Premier League. Let's see how Arteta performs next season if Arsenal improves and has a chance to win the league competition.

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No matter about Arsenal who managed to improve the quality of the team because anyway, Arsenal will only focus on the Premier League and not for the Champion League.
For the past two seasons, we can see how desperate Arsenal is to win the Premier League, not that they don’t also want to win the Champions League, but they will prefer the Premier League, and since Arsenal have really tried hard to win the Premier League in the last two seasons but ended up in second place, next season is another season for them to try harder. But next season champions league winner should be between Manchester City or Real Madrid. I don’t always expect much from Arsenal in the champions league, because their performance is always kind of poor in champions league.

Currently, Manchester City and Real Madrid are the two teams that are the favorites for people to win the UEFA Champions League next season if you are talking about teams that are qualified in terms of performances and squad in the team. Arsenal should focus on taking the Premier League from Manchester City because it is what fighting for. It will be a shame that at the end of all season, they still can't win the Premier League every time they get close. The only reason Manchester City will not put much interest in the EPL next season compared to how they will be looking at the UCL title is that they need more of the UCL cup and feel they can easily win the EPL.

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No matter about Arsenal who managed to improve the quality of the team because anyway, Arsenal will only focus on the Premier League and not for the Champion League.
For the past two seasons, we can see how desperate Arsenal is to win the Premier League, not that they don’t also want to win the Champions League, but they will prefer the Premier League, and since Arsenal have really tried hard to win the Premier League in the last two seasons but ended up in second place, next season is another season for them to try harder. But next season champions league winner should be between Manchester City or Real Madrid. I don’t always expect much from Arsenal in the champions league, because their performance is always kind of poor in champions league.

Currently, Manchester City and Real Madrid are the two teams that are the favorites for people to win the UEFA Champions League next season if you are talking about teams that are qualified in terms of performances and squad in the team. Arsenal should focus on taking the Premier League from Manchester City because it is what fighting for. It will be a shame that at the end of all season, they still can't win the Premier League every time they get close. The only reason Manchester City will not put much interest in the EPL next season compared to how they will be looking at the UCL title is that they need more of the UCL cup and feel they can easily win the EPL.

The league is about that start once more again, and I think arsenal might have really learnt their lesson this time around because if they are to lose the league again to Manchester city then it would be really sad for them but for their chances of winning the champions league, I think the numbers are really far and I don't see them having that sort of team to actually do that so the premier league should be their primary focus for now.

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July 18, 2024, 09:05:52 PM
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It depends on how Arsenal can improve next season, if they can improve significantly enough then they will be able to go even further in the Champions League. However, on the other hand, if they cannot improve their performance next season, then they will not be able to do much and perhaps qualifying from the group stage will be their achievement, after which they will be eliminated again by the fierce competition in the Champions League.
The team that will join their group is also something that will determine, if they join a relatively easy group, then maybe they will be able to easily qualify for the knockout rounds, but if they join the hell group it will be a challenge for them. But the draw is luck, they definitely hope they can be in a relatively easy group.

With Arsenal's performances last season, Arsenal is really predictable. That they will do well next season because there are no changes in either ahead or their quality players. Arsenal did not sell any of their quality players; rather, they are planning to add to the team to strengthen their performances for next season's competition. I can actually say that this will be Arsenal's performance in the Champions League, but there is confidence that Arsenal will do well with this type of squad they have now.

It will not be that nice for me to be predicting Arsenal's performances in the Champions League now because I don't know which competition Arteta will fully concentrate on next season. It was noticed over two seasons now that Arteta has not been focused on European competition too much because it doesn't have many quality players to be playing in all these competitions. But now I observe that he is trying his best to have quality replacements for its players, and that is what made him even go far last season. As next season is about to strt again, he is trying to sign more quality players so that it will not be a problem when injuries happen to some of its players.

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July 18, 2024, 09:09:17 PM
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Arsenal is up to contesting for the Premier League but not for the Champions League, even if we still can't tell what the coming season has installed but it will take Arsenal a lot more than what they already plan on doing. It comes with a lot of motivation, for them losing enough opportunities to secure their PL title and has remained incompetent now heading for the Champions League, it doesn't fit in, everything here would require gradual steps and the next for them is to win the EPL and then set their target higher for the Champions League.
Arsenal in recent years has proven to continue to make significant changes. In the last two seasons, they have become a team that competes closely in the domestic league and UCL league. Arsenal under Arteta's game already has character, this is what makes them play well in every match, but they lack consistency in matches where they should be able to win points.

So with Arsenal's current development, I think their target next season is to get a trophy, even though their target is the EPL trophy, it does not rule out the possibility that the UCL trophy will also be a priority. The reason is that Arsenal actually already has the foundation to compete with elite clubs, it's just that they don't have good reserve players like the main players. This is Arsenal's weakness in the last two seasons, they don't have good reserve players, which makes it difficult for Arteta to make changes to the line-up which makes his players tired.

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July 18, 2024, 09:34:13 PM
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Currently, Manchester City and Real Madrid are the two teams that are the favorites for people to win the UEFA Champions League next season if you are talking about teams that are qualified in terms of performances and squad in the team. Arsenal should focus on taking the Premier League from Manchester City because it is what fighting for. It will be a shame that at the end of all season, they still can't win the Premier League every time they get close. The only reason Manchester City will not put much interest in the EPL next season compared to how they will be looking at the UCL title is that they need more of the UCL cup and feel they can easily win the EPL.

I don't think it would be prudent for Arsenal to focus on only the premier league and not on the champions league. Arsenal is a big team and a big team fights for all the trophies available in the season. Focusing on one from the beginning of the season might be catastrophic because if they lose out on that one then they're left with nothing. Great importance should be placed on the major competitions which are the league and champions league. They can use the reserve team or second 11 to play competitions like the FA cup or caraboa cup if they're not facing a top opponents, but the champions league and League, should be their priority.

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July 18, 2024, 09:35:05 PM
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Arsenal is up to contesting for the Premier League but not for the Champions League, even if we still can't tell what the coming season has installed but it will take Arsenal a lot more than what they already plan on doing. It comes with a lot of motivation, for them losing enough opportunities to secure their PL title and has remained incompetent now heading for the Champions League, it doesn't fit in, everything here would require gradual steps and the next for them is to win the EPL and then set their target higher for the Champions League.
You can't be so sure already that Arsenal isn't up for the competition in the champions league, you never can tell what their plans are for the season and yet you may be making conclusions on basis that can't be considered solid, no team loves to lose neither will them plan to do same not from the very beginning of the season. We all know that in the past season, there have been several attempts by Arsenal to win the premier league making it look like priority for them and ofcourse their champions league attempts have been unmatching with their premier league attempts but then it's still possible to make good and almost equal attempts at both trophies which we may see in this new season so let's not be quick to rule anything out just yet until we are sure probably after seeing them go quarter to half way the season.

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