UEFA Champions League 2024/25 Season

[KTChampions]

Last year Lens beat Arsenal 2-1 and then only Bayern were able to stop Arsenal. We are not saying that Lens is a strong team. Atalanta is a good team, but they are not even close to the pool of teams that play for the title among themselves. Only a very rare set of circumstances can allow Atalanta to claim the title (something like Dortmund reaching the final). Bookmakers estimate Atalanta's chances at 1 in 51.

I was wondering how Atalanta was able to handle Arsenal to the finish with a draw but I was also not too surprised considering that the Atalanta side is in good shape and could have worked hard to hold the Arsenal team tight enough. Ademola Lookman amongst other top strikers have always been players to look forward to whenever we discuss Atalanta of today and how well they're performing. I didn't really expect that they will hold Arsenal to the point of gaining more possessions than the latter but it is always good to equally establish the good efforts and hard work of the manager too.

My opinion remains the same: the games in the new format in the group stage mean much less than in the old format, so we will see a lot of unexpected results as teams understand this and prioritize in favor of national championships. By the way, were you not surprised that City and Inter played a draw? After all, Inter at the beginning of the season looks much weaker than last year, and City looks scary. I think it is for the same reasons.

[Falconer]

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Honestly Arsenal are try their possible best all over the years to win the league title, but not yet happened which I’m hope for them this season that with way they make their performance very standard they might win the league, up now all Arsenal players are still a great players; like the Saka that you mentioned the guy is a better squad he always make the arsenal fans happy when ever they get match. Therefore, Arteta will fine a way out to create a chances to those wings players so that they can able to win every of their matches.

Arsenal have been trying to win the Premier League trophy for two decades.
This season, Arsenal will remain the main competitor for Manchester City, the draw in yesterday match, indicates that Arteta squad is very ambitious to end the title drought. Of course, it is not easy to make it happen, because Pep Guardiola squad is still very consistent and shows no signs of declining performance. The depth of the squad built by Arteta has increased Arsenal chances of winning the trophy, while breaking Manchester City dominance which has lasted for four consecutive seasons.

In my opinion, Arsenal only lacks a quality striker like Halaand, in other lines Arteta already has very good players. The competition for the trophy will be more difficult if other elite teams are involved, Liverpool also have the chance to put pressure on Manchester City this season. Overall, if Arsenal fails again this season, Arteta will likely be evaluated at the end of the season.

[Catenaccio]

My opinion remains the same: the games in the new format in the group stage mean much less than in the old format, so we will see a lot of unexpected results as teams understand this and prioritize in favor of national championships. By the way, were you not surprised that City and Inter played a draw? After all, Inter at the beginning of the season looks much weaker than last year, and City looks scary. I think it is for the same reasons.

A new format in Champions League group stage no longer gives two clubs home and home away matches to play against each other. They only have one chance, a home match or a home away match, and it is risky if Manchester City lose to Inter Milan or Inter Milan lose to Manchester City. If they lose that match, they will have no chance to find 3 points from this opponent in group stage, and will have to move on with other opponents in the same group.

This format makes big clubs are fearful in their direct matches and they will aim at a draw, before looking for better chances of getting three points from weaker clubs in the group.

[ginsan]

Arsenal have been trying to win the Premier League trophy for two decades.
This season, Arsenal will remain the main competitor for Manchester City, the draw in yesterday match, indicates that Arteta squad is very ambitious to end the title drought. Of course, it is not easy to make it happen, because Pep Guardiola squad is still very consistent and shows no signs of declining performance. The depth of the squad built by Arteta has increased Arsenal chances of winning the trophy, while breaking Manchester City dominance which has lasted for four consecutive seasons.

In my opinion, Arsenal only lacks a quality striker like Halaand, in other lines Arteta already has very good players. The competition for the trophy will be more difficult if other elite teams are involved, Liverpool also have the chance to put pressure on Manchester City this season. Overall, if Arsenal fails again this season, Arteta will likely be evaluated at the end of the season.

You are right, Arsenal must have a quality striker who can bring change when the team needs a win. Moreover, there were no changes made by Arteta in the last transfer market to fix the front line because he still believes in Gabriel Jesus. I think that is his weak point but that is just my guess, because if you look at Manchester City of course they have Haaland who can bring victory for them.

In the Champions League, Arsenal's performance this season is of course very tough because there are many strong opponents who are their opponents. But with the quality of the current players I am sure they will qualify from the first round. If you look at the competition in the domestic league, Arsenal has certainly competed quite tightly with Manchester City because their competition has been seen in the previous two seasons but this season I am still sure Manchester City will become champions again.

[hahay]

You see Celtic and Stuttgart; those two teams should not be underestimated, especially Celtic; they are also not weak, and they can also beat Atlanta, as you said. I cannot deny the fact that Atlanta is good in the Champions League, but still, these teams that we think are weak can put in too much effort to see that they draw, or probably it will be difficult for Atlanta to beat them, as we are saying. For the semi-finals, you know, their other top teams that are tough and doing better than Atlanta, so those teams will bring Atlanta down; they will find it hard to go to that stage. 

I also see Celtic as one of the best teams to not underestimate, you should not underestimate any team, the clear example or the analogy with Glatasaray seems perfect to me, so in this sense I think that any team in the Europa League, I never imagined that Galatasaray would win, that is something that wow seems incredible to me, so the Europa League has been one of the best competitions to see how some teams improve according to their wishes, obviously the UCL is the one that everyone dreams of, but the Europa League has a very, very high level.

Indeed, Celtic is a strong team in the domestic league but in the Champions League? You should not be complacent  about Celtic's big win against Slovan Bratislava. Because after all, Celtic also only played against a team like Slovan Bratislava which is not calculated to make a surprise in this Champion League, so Celtic's big win against Slovan Bratislava can in no way be considered a result that can make Celtic go further in the Champion League this season.

About Stuttgart, that Stuttgart is still a team that cannot be underestimated but still, Stuttgart is also still not strong enough to be able to advance further in the Champions League. So yes, the point is that although these teams cannot be underestimated but anyway, the reality is that these teams also still do not have a chance to be able to go further,  because the competition in the Champions League is certainly a very difficult competition and they are still not enough to have a good chance when playing against seeded teams.

[Jegileman]

A new format in Champions League group stage no longer gives two clubs home and home away matches to play against each other. They only have one chance, a home match or a home away match, and it is risky if Manchester City lose to Inter Milan or Inter Milan lose to Manchester City. If they lose that match, they will have no chance to find 3 points from this opponent in group stage, and will have to move on with other opponents in the same group.

This format makes big clubs are fearful in their direct matches and they will aim at a draw, before looking for better chances of getting three points from weaker clubs in the group.

Finishing that match in a draw was for the better of both teams and not for just one person. They are both big teams who will be aiming to finish in a good position on the standings and also get a qualification for the next round which is very likely that they get. Trying not to lose points but rather share points with big teams are best for them and this gives them a peace of mind when facing the smaller teams to win them comfortably. The champions league this seaosn is full of new approach that when you lose matches, or draw too many times, your chances will be very low if quaifying to the next round of the competition.

[baeva]

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Honestly Arsenal are try their possible best all over the years to win the league title, but not yet happened which I’m hope for them this season that with way they make their performance very standard they might win the league, up now all Arsenal players are still a great players; like the Saka that you mentioned the guy is a better squad he always make the arsenal fans happy when ever they get match. Therefore, Arteta will fine a way out to create a chances to those wings players so that they can able to win every of their matches.

Arsenal have been trying to win the Premier League trophy for two decades.
This season, Arsenal will remain the main competitor for Manchester City, the draw in yesterday match, indicates that Arteta squad is very ambitious to end the title drought. Of course, it is not easy to make it happen, because Pep Guardiola squad is still very consistent and shows no signs of declining performance. The depth of the squad built by Arteta has increased Arsenal chances of winning the trophy, while breaking Manchester City dominance which has lasted for four consecutive seasons.

In my opinion, Arsenal only lacks a quality striker like Halaand, in other lines Arteta already has very good players. The competition for the trophy will be more difficult if other elite teams are involved, Liverpool also have the chance to put pressure on Manchester City this season. Overall, if Arsenal fails again this season, Arteta will likely be evaluated at the end of the season.

Their preparation and performances are skewed one way or another by their performances in the champions league, but I don't think their intrinsic chase for the premier league title will affect the champions league much. It will be difficult for them to compete as usual and try to win both titles as usual, but it's a doable task, Manchester City have already proved that. Very interesting how Arsenal will perform in the Champions League this time around

[Uruhara]

A new format in Champions League group stage no longer gives two clubs home and home away matches to play against each other. They only have one chance, a home match or a home away match, and it is risky if Manchester City lose to Inter Milan or Inter Milan lose to Manchester City. If they lose that match, they will have no chance to find 3 points from this opponent in group stage, and will have to move on with other opponents in the same group.

This format makes big clubs are fearful in their direct matches and they will aim at a draw, before looking for better chances of getting three points from weaker clubs in the group.

Finishing that match in a draw was for the better of both teams and not for just one person. They are both big teams who will be aiming to finish in a good position on the standings and also get a qualification for the next round which is very likely that they get. Trying not to lose points but rather share points with big teams are best for them and this gives them a peace of mind when facing the smaller teams to win them comfortably. The champions league this seaosn is full of new approach that when you lose matches, or draw too many times, your chances will be very low if quaifying to the next round of the competition.

Their strong teams are just more careful when playing against other strong teams. Well, because there were lots of matches between strong teams that took place at the start of the UCL this time. Thanks to this new format we can see Man City and Inter Milan even meet earlier. And in the next match we will also see a strong team against another strong team, namely Arsenal will face PSG. Yes, and there are several other matches that seem to deliberately bring together the big teams first. The new system is actually quite easy to understand, but actually I am more comfortable with the old system. Although the new system can provide more interesting challenges for all teams and make it fair for all teams. But for big teams they will try not to lose points from the start. And a draw is much better for them when facing other strong teams.

[Pokapoka124]

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.

[Weawant]

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.

Seeing that Milan have had good wins in their recent games where they even won their Milan derby, it's a good reason to believe that they are going to be in their best form and have their confidence intact, so taking on Leverkusen wouldn't be such a game that they will not have the ability to play confidently, my fears are with Leverkusen actually as they don't exhibit that stability and confidence recently, their game are beginning to look like they are loosing their form but I hope they get rhe spirit of champions League knowing how competitive the game they will be playing is and give their very best.

[Pokapoka124]

If we look deeper into comparing Arsenal and Man City, it's not actually a problem that Arsenal must have a striker like Haaland.
Now let's look at it logically and take examples from other league teams like Bayern Munich and Leverkusen.
Last season we all know that Munich had Kane with his scoring machine achievements and made a big contribution to the team. We even have predictions that Munich will be stronger last season. But the facts say that Leverkusen won the bundesliga title. While Leverkusen does not have a player like Kane.

Well, the conclusion is that Arsenal does not need a player like Haaland because Arsenal performance is actually very good. But what Arsenal needs is strong consistency.
If we look at Arsenal at the beginning of the season, they always give extraordinary performances both domestically and in the UCL. But at the end of the season they lose their energy and their performances are inconsistent.

Arsenal needs a striker urgently, Gabriel Jesus is not reliable enough and cannot guarantee Arteta the goals needed every season to compete for silverware. This season and even the previous seasons, we saw on different occasions where Arsenal played well and just needed the goals to get a win but failed to accomplish that. A striker like Osimhen can guarantee more goals, you can agree that goals win you games no matter how tough the opponent is.

[legendbtc]

If we look deeper into comparing Arsenal and Man City, it's not actually a problem that Arsenal must have a striker like Haaland.
Now let's look at it logically and take examples from other league teams like Bayern Munich and Leverkusen.
Last season we all know that Munich had Kane with his scoring machine achievements and made a big contribution to the team. We even have predictions that Munich will be stronger last season. But the facts say that Leverkusen won the bundesliga title. While Leverkusen does not have a player like Kane.

Well, the conclusion is that Arsenal does not need a player like Haaland because Arsenal performance is actually very good. But what Arsenal needs is strong consistency.
If we look at Arsenal at the beginning of the season, they always give extraordinary performances both domestically and in the UCL. But at the end of the season they lose their energy and their performances are inconsistent.

Arsenal needs a striker urgently, Gabriel Jesus is not reliable enough and cannot guarantee Arteta the goals needed every season to compete for silverware. This season and even the previous seasons, we saw on different occasions where Arsenal played well and just needed the goals to get a win but failed to accomplish that. A striker like Osimhen can guarantee more goals, you can agree that goals win you games no matter how tough the opponent is.

In my opinion, Arsenal do not need a new striker. Bringing such a player into the system would require some changes to Arteta's formation.
Anyway, Arteta still has very good players in his hands from last season, the job now is to find a way to get people like Saka, Martinelli, and Ødegaard to fire again. And Arteta knows full well that Havertz can play as a striker. After a slow start, Havertz gradually adapted to the role of a "number 9" in the second half of last season. The fact that Havertz continues to take on this role in the opening match of the 2024-2025 Premier League shows that he can do it. I believe in Havertz, and Gabriel Jesus, Leandro Trossard have played in that position. So Arteta has different options and the best thing to do is to trust the players they have and try to improve them. They are very good, very ready and that is what Arsenal should focus on.

[imamusma]

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.

Seeing that Milan have had good wins in their recent games where they even won their Milan derby, it's a good reason to believe that they are going to be in their best form and have their confidence intact, so taking on Leverkusen wouldn't be such a game that they will not have the ability to play confidently, my fears are with Leverkusen actually as they don't exhibit that stability and confidence recently, their game are beginning to look like they are loosing their form but I hope they get rhe spirit of champions League knowing how competitive the game they will be playing is and give their very best.

On paper, Leverkusen is still more reliable than AC Milan, of course I do not ignore the fact that they have just defeated Inter Milan who are the defending champions in Serie A.
In terms of experience and mentality, Leverkusen is clearly far behind AC Milan, but the current situation and conditions are certainly different. In my opinion, this match tends to end in a draw, even though the odds displayed place Leverkusen as the favorite. AC Milan is a little lucky because they will face a relatively easy opponent before facing Leverkusen, where they will face Lecce. Meanwhile, Xabi Alonso squad will play against Bayern Munich, which has the potential to drain the energy and minds of its players.
If Leverkusen manages to win in the Bundesliga, then they will be very favored when facing AC Milan, especially since the match will be held at the BayArena.

[OcTradism]

On paper, Leverkusen is still more reliable than AC Milan, of course I do not ignore the fact that they have just defeated Inter Milan who are the defending champions in Serie A.

Leverkusen in this season is a different team, they are no longer unbeaten with a first loss in Bundesliga and AC Milan just woke up to beat Inter Milan. The match between Leverkusen and AC Milan will be balancing and I don't underestimate AC Milan in Champions League.

For many decades, AC Milan shown that they often play well in Champions League even they did not have good form in Serie A, so people call it as AC Milan's Champions League DNA that does not exist in Bayer Leverkusen.

In terms of experience and mentality, Leverkusen is clearly far behind AC Milan, but the current situation and conditions are certainly different. In my opinion, this match tends to end in a draw, even though the odds displayed place Leverkusen as the favorite.

Leverkusen played in Champions League some seasons and had one failed Champions League final under Real Madrid with a magic volley of Zidane. Generally, they have less experience in Champions League than AC Milan in history. With current players in two clubs, AC Milan have more players who already experienced Champions League in previous seasons, and this can be an important factor for difference between two clubs in their direct match.

[tusandii]

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.

Seeing that Milan have had good wins in their recent games where they even won their Milan derby, it's a good reason to believe that they are going to be in their best form and have their confidence intact, so taking on Leverkusen wouldn't be such a game that they will not have the ability to play confidently, my fears are with Leverkusen actually as they don't exhibit that stability and confidence recently, their game are beginning to look like they are loosing their form but I hope they get rhe spirit of champions League knowing how competitive the game they will be playing is and give their very best.

Although Milan has performed well recently and was able to beat its arch rival Inter Milan, but for some reason in the Champions League I still doubt Milan because this club has not been fully consistent and is still blundering sometimes, especially against Leverkusen in Germany. I don't think it will be easy for Milan, while Leverkusen has won many times in the domestic league and won its first win in the Champions League when playing away, so I think Leverkusen is more confident to perform well in the Champions League, especially since bookies make Leverkusen the favorite in the match with odds of no more than 2, while betting on Milan is very risky.

[iamsange]

In the Champions League, Arsenal's performance this season is of course very tough because there are many strong opponents who are their opponents. But with the quality of the current players I am sure they will qualify from the first round. If you look at the competition in the domestic league, Arsenal has certainly competed quite tightly with Manchester City because their competition has been seen in the previous two seasons but this season I am still sure Manchester City will become champions again.

In the domestic league this season, Arsenal could experience something almost similar to last season because Manchester City is still strong enough so that both will continue to compete until the end of the season to win the League title. While in the Champions League, Arsenal will also not be easy enough to become champions because here there are more great teams that can be obstacles for them, although I have no doubt about the strength that Arsenal has this season. Until now, Arsenal has never tasted the sweetness of becoming champions in the Champions League, so Arsenal can focus on one of the competitions they want if they cannot focus on all the competitions they are participating in this season.

[babo]

Arsenal needs a striker urgently, Gabriel Jesus is not reliable enough and cannot guarantee Arteta the goals needed every season to compete for silverware. This season and even the previous seasons, we saw on different occasions where Arsenal played well and just needed the goals to get a win but failed to accomplish that. A striker like Osimhen can guarantee more goals, you can agree that goals win you games no matter how tough the opponent is.

If he urgently needs it and has the money, he can buy him wherever and whenever he wants, the problem arises if he needs a good, young striker who wants to pay little.
He never finds that.
When I hear these urgent things I am always reminded that you can easily find everything if you are willing to pay.

[bering]

AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.

Leverkusen might be lack of experience in champion league but don't mean AC Milan will be automatically can win from this match moreover AC Milan performance is not stable and i know they had just return to the winning way after successfully to beat Inter Milan in Serie A and i am sure this result can boosted their mentally but although Leverkusen is not too strong compared to last season but i still feel Leverkusen is strong team in Champion league

Do not forget too Leverkusen is still unbeated at their home for Europa competitions and although last season they were failed to gets the trophy because lost from Atalanta in the final match but Leverkusen still able to managed their consistency during playing at home since group stages and these records too makes me thinking Leverkusen is very strong while playing at BayArena

Leverkusen record is much better compared to AC Milan in league phase this because in the first match Leverkusen can able to beat Feyenoord with huge scores and for second match against AC Milan later my prediction is Leverkusen have good chances to resumes their winning streak and from betting option too you can see it that Leverkusen is the favourite and AC Milan as underdog status

[Sg4j1n3ll0]

Last season that Atalanta was able to win Europa go and check out their performance, they were in form compared to this season and they are also playing a bigger league and not the same as last season. It is possible for them to qualify to thw round of 16 if the clubs in their group are weak but they will not survive the round of 16 because they will meet a strong team.

Atalanta's performance in their next 4 Championship League matches will tell how their limit to the Champions League would be because they are to face Shakhtar Donetsk(away), Celtic(home), VFB Stuttgart(away), and Young Boys(away), before facing Real Madrid and Barcelona next. However, I support your stated fact that they won't survive in their round of 16 because Real Madrid and Barcelona are in the pipeline of the tough teams they will face. There is no way they will defeat the mentioned teams. I considered Atalanta to have some defeats before they would kicked out at the round of 16, from the race for the Champions League title.

If you look at Atalanta's eight matches in the Champions League and Atalanta are also the defending champions of the Europa League. Actually, their chances of qualifying for the last 16 are very wide open because out of 8 matches only Arsenal, Real Madrid, and Barcelona can ensure that Atalanta will lose points.
The match against Arsenal has passed, and it can be said that it was a pretty good result because they were able to take home one point from Arsenal. So in the next match Atalanta can steal points from Shakhtar Donetsk, Celtic, VFB Stuttgart, and Young Boys. I don't think those four clubs are weak but I see those four clubs have the same quality as Atalanta so Atalanta's hopes of stealing points in that match are very possible.

However, that scenario could happen if Atalanta continues to improve the team and continues to increase its strength. Because lately Atalanta's performance has been below standard, in the domestic league alone they lost to the promoted club Como. If there is no improvement in performance, it is likely that this scenario will fail and it is certain that Atalanta will not qualify for the last 16.

Atalanta's performance in the Champion's League so far has been commendable, especially considering they are the defending Europa League champions. Their chances of advancing to the last 16 are indeed promising, given they need to face only Arsenal, Real Madrid, and Barcelona, and they have already secured a point against Arsenal.

[Cryptmuster]

Their strong teams are just more careful when playing against other strong teams. Well, because there were lots of matches between strong teams that took place at the start of the UCL this time. Thanks to this new format we can see Man City and Inter Milan even meet earlier. And in the next match we will also see a strong team against another strong team, namely Arsenal will face PSG. Yes, and there are several other matches that seem to deliberately bring together the big teams first. The new system is actually quite easy to understand, but actually I am more comfortable with the old system. Although the new system can provide more interesting challenges for all teams and make it fair for all teams. But for big teams they will try not to lose points from the start. And a draw is much better for them when facing other strong teams.

The new format is aimed at allowing viewers to see more different matches with their teams, that is, the task was to make the Champions League more interesting for the viewer. The fact that City cannot win some matches is primarily the fault of their opponents, when they decide to go into deep defense, maybe this is one of the few opportunities to get points in a match against City, so it is not worth blaming them for this. It is difficult to assess the advantages and disadvantages of this format for now, we can talk about this at the end of the season.