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Today at 08:33:52 AM
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Atalanta's performance in the Champion's League so far has been commendable, especially considering they are the defending Europa League champions. Their chances of advancing to the last 16 are indeed promising, given they need to face only Arsenal, Real Madrid, and Barcelona, and they have already secured a point against Arsenal.

True, all true, but how much did Atalanta spend? Very little. I believe it is one of the few teams that has spent nothing or almost nothing as it develops players in its spring.
It's clear now that facing Real Madrid (faced) and Barcelona are very difficult challenges, never mind. We will do better next season.

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Today at 08:41:40 AM
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AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.


For now it is too risky to believe in betting on Milan victory because the inconsistent performance is slightly weakening making our bet lose. As we can see at that time you can see Milan unimpressive performance when playing against Liverpool and on the one hand Leverkusen currently has a very strong defense and always has a defensive strategy when they can't beat their opponents.
So it would be better for me to bet on other options such as BTTS or over 3.

Possibly before the match starts I dare to take the risk on Leverkusen victory -1.

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Today at 09:37:33 AM
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For now it is too risky to believe in betting on Milan victory because the inconsistent performance is slightly weakening making our bet lose. As we can see at that time you can see Milan unimpressive performance when playing against Liverpool and on the one hand Leverkusen currently has a very strong defense and always has a defensive strategy when they can't beat their opponents.
So it would be better for me to bet on other options such as BTTS or over 3.
There is no reason to bet on a Milan win even though they just managed to pick up an important win at Inter headquarters. Milan's chances of winning are very small, maybe 5.00. The defeat from Liverpool in the first match can illustrate that Milan performance is still inconsistent. They have also only managed to win 2 of the last 5 games. But before this match starts, Milan will face Lecce at San Siro and Leverkusen will visit Bayern Munich headquarters.

Possibly before the match starts I dare to take the risk on Leverkusen victory -1.
This match will take place at BayArena which is Leverkusen pride stadium, of course Xabi Alonso will not waste the opportunity to get three points in front of his supporters.

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Today at 09:46:11 AM
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Atalanta's performance in the Champion's League so far has been commendable, especially considering they are the defending Europa League champions. Their chances of advancing to the last 16 are indeed promising, given they need to face only Arsenal, Real Madrid, and Barcelona, and they have already secured a point against Arsenal.
There are still many opportunities for Atalanta to advance to the last 16 because there are still seven more matches to gain points before going to the next round and of the seven matches that Atalanta will face, the toughest are probably only when they face Real Madrid and Barcelona. In addition, there are no opponents who can make it difficult for Atalanta to get full points in this round because apart from Barcelona and Real Madrid, I think the other five teams that Atalanta will face are fairly easy teams for them.

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Today at 10:03:18 AM
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Next week we continue with the second week games after a break. There are some really interesting games are waiting for us.  Smiley

Like Arsenal - PSG and Leverkusen - Milan on Tuesday. Arsenal really couldn't make the kind of a start they would like. They could have even lost to Atalanta if it weren't for David Raya's great saves. PSG also struggled to get ahead against Girona but still won. Considering the odds below, I wasn't expecting the gap to be this big. Bookmakers underestimate PSG a little, don't you think? I even think PSG won't lose so I would rather double chance @2.05.



When it comes to the other game, Leverkusen are highly favoured which is no surprise. Milan are really not trustworthy at all to me. They didn't start well with Fonseca but that win in the Milano derby recently could motivate them more. But I still don't think they can resist Xabi Alonso's students. My choice would be Leverkusen win @1.63.  Smiley


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Today at 10:18:34 AM
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Atalanta's performance in the Champion's League so far has been commendable, especially considering they are the defending Europa League champions. Their chances of advancing to the last 16 are indeed promising, given they need to face only Arsenal, Real Madrid, and Barcelona, and they have already secured a point against Arsenal.
ThereSuccessfully holding Arsenal to a draw in the first match of the Champions League certainly opens their hopes to qualify for the round of 16 playoffs wide open this season, especially since they will only face Madrid and Barcelona who are classified as strong teams at the moment, while the rest they will face opponents who can be said to have a balanced strength and quality with Atalanta,  As a team that won the Europa League last season, of course Atalanta has greater motivation to be able to compete for the UCL champion and obviously it will provide high motivation for them, but even so the challenge in the Champions League is certainly not easy and their is required to be able to continue to be consistent in maintaining performance in every match they have, because it will be key for Atalanta to go further in the UCL this season.

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Today at 10:41:07 AM
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Next week we continue with the second week games after a break. There are some really interesting games are waiting for us.  Smiley

Like Arsenal - PSG and Leverkusen - Milan on Tuesday. Arsenal really couldn't make the kind of a start they would like. They could have even lost to Atalanta if it weren't for David Raya's great saves. PSG also struggled to get ahead against Girona but still won. Considering the odds below, I wasn't expecting the gap to be this big. Bookmakers underestimate PSG a little, don't you think? I even think PSG won't lose so I would rather double chance @2.05.




I don't think bookmakers were really underestimating PSG. I think it's very fair odds for PSG considering the fact that their opponent is still in its best form. It's gonna be difficult for them to beat their opponent in an away game. Their opponent is as good as Manchester City. I have no reason to think the bookmakers are underestimating them, given the gap.

But let's see it from their odds movement. Their odds dropped from 5.60 to 4.60. They can go lower as the game nears. This means bookmakers are confident that they can steal points from their opponent.



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Today at 10:42:00 AM
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How come Arsenal failed to secure the signature of Gyökeres from Sporting in the summer, could it be his transfer fee was too expensive or was the player was not ready to leave Sporting at the time because Arsenal showed serious interest in getting Gyokeres signed to the club. Maybe in January they could try again, I doubt they have moved on from the deal. I would like to see him come to the premier league in January, Gyökeres has some amazing stats in Sporting, I’d like to see him replicate that in the premier league.
It's true that Gyokeres could be perfect for Arsenal, and to be fair Arsenal also could be great for Gyokeres as well, would fit so great. He did play at EPL before but he wasn't great, he had a great three season (well two before this and now third season now) so he looks good, but that dude wasn't good at championship for a few years, meaning that he failed to score a lot, he was "one goal per 200 minutes" type of striker, which I do not feel like is a good number. Now he looks like he is much better, but is it because he fits the team better or if he is a better player.

If Arsenal spends a lot of money, he comes there, and becomes a "one goal per 200 minutes" player yet again, then we are going to end up with a lot of trouble later on. It would be money wasted yet again.

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Celtic performance in first game of this season in UEFA Champions League were amazing because no one were expecting result like this while Slovan Bratislava is also good team and having top spot in Slovakian League, but things were completely surprising in this first game of Champions League with Celtic were dominating from the start and until end we are having 5 goals from them which is amazing stuff now they are having next game against Dortmund which is also at his prime with having good result against Club Brugge now next game is going to be challenging for the Celtic as they can keep momentum, or we will have easy win for the Dortmund.

Stuttgart is also not bad at all even they lost against Real Madrid, but we can expect good performance from them in coming matches as they are having good fight back against Dortmund in Bundesliga game and now next game they are going to play at home against Sparta Prague which is going to be interesting with Stuttgart is heavy favourite for the win in this game.

You are right. Celtic performance is good in the Champions League, and we should be expecting a good result from them in their coming I don’t underrate Celtic in anyway because I know what they can be capable of doing, which is why I said we should underrate them. However, Celtic against Dortmund, I will still give Celtic a chance of winning the game because, judging from their previous performances, it can be denied that they are doing well. Dortmund are not showing that good result that Celtic are currently bringing out, which is why I’m curious if they can win Celtic. 

As of Stuttgart against Real Madrid, we all know how good Real Madrid is, and they can’t even play Real Madrid talkless of winning them, so I don’t think everybody expects winning from them against Real Madrid. But still, Stuttgart is also good; they are performing well. 

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Today at 11:18:11 AM
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Atalanta's performance in the Champion's League so far has been commendable, especially considering they are the defending Europa League champions. Their chances of advancing to the last 16 are indeed promising, given they need to face only Arsenal, Real Madrid, and Barcelona, and they have already secured a point against Arsenal.
There are still many opportunities for Atalanta to advance to the last 16 because there are still seven more matches to gain points before going to the next round and of the seven matches that Atalanta will face, the toughest are probably only when they face Real Madrid and Barcelona. In addition, there are no opponents who can make it difficult for Atalanta to get full points in this round because apart from Barcelona and Real Madrid, I think the other five teams that Atalanta will face are fairly easy teams for them.

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Real Madrid (Spain),
Arsenal (England), Draw
Celtic (Scotland)
Sturm Graz (Austria) at home,
Barcelona (Spain),
Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukraine),
Young Boys (Switzerland) 
Stuttgart (Germany) away.

You're right that Atalanta's toughest opponents will be Real Madrid and Barcelona. They will miss three points against these clubs.

But it's hard to call the rest of their opponents easy to beat. They still have to play a German club (Stuttgart) and a Scandinavian club (YB). Both are hard-to-beat teams. And i expect them to potentially miss points in these matches, too.

And i don't mind with the rest of their opponent, but Celtic may give them trouble.

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Today at 11:39:19 AM
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AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.

Why you are so confident that AC Milan will win the match against Leverkusen?
Leverkusen may be not as strong as in the previous season but Leverkusen looks stronger than AC Milan. Also, the match will be held in Leverkusen home, Leverkusen will have an advantage. The performance of Leverkusen currently looks more convincing than AC Milan, too. Considering these factors, it is quite doubtful that AC Milan will win against Leverkusen.  Undecided

Leverkusen might be lack of experience in champion league but don't mean AC Milan will be automatically can win from this match~~
Leverkusen squad may be lack of experience but they have a coach who have full of experience in UCL.  Wink
Xabi Alonso should have a plan to improve the mentality of the players in UCL through his experience. TBH, I've no doubt about the mentality of Leverkusen players. I am just worried that Xabi Alonso will apply unexpected strategy anymore. However, playing against AC Milan, I'm very sure that Xabi can lead Leverkusen to win.


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Today at 11:46:53 AM
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There are still many opportunities for Atalanta to advance to the last 16 because there are still seven more matches to gain points before going to the next round and of the seven matches that Atalanta will face, the toughest are probably only when they face Real Madrid and Barcelona. In addition, there are no opponents who can make it difficult for Atalanta to get full points in this round because apart from Barcelona and Real Madrid, I think the other five teams that Atalanta will face are fairly easy teams for them.

Atalanta's opponents
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Real Madrid (Spain),
Arsenal (England), Draw
Celtic (Scotland)
Sturm Graz (Austria) at home,
Barcelona (Spain),
Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukraine),
Young Boys (Switzerland) 
Stuttgart (Germany) away.

You're right that Atalanta's toughest opponents will be Real Madrid and Barcelona. They will miss three points against these clubs.

But it's hard to call the rest of their opponents easy to beat. They still have to play a German club (Stuttgart) and a Scandinavian club (YB). Both are hard-to-beat teams. And i expect them to potentially miss points in these matches, too.

And i don't mind with the rest of their opponent, but Celtic may give them trouble.

The both Spanish giants are definitely the toughest teams in that list for Atalanta, and by performance and team's strength, I doubt Atalanta would get a point from any of them but on a second thought their are chances of that happening cause a key player or players from either of both teams could sustain an injury before they meet Atalanta and give Atalanta a boost to steal a point just like they did against Arsenal. Well, Real Madrid recently faced Atalanta and saw how tough it was to beat them so I think they won't take chances this time around, we know how serious they tend to be when it comes to Champions league games, especially now that they've changed the pattern to favour both bigger teams and underdogs. As for Barcelona they're in great form since Flick took over and I'm pretty sure they'll deal with Atalanta, another team am looking out for is Celtic, they're in great form this season and they did well in their last Champions league match, if they beat Dortmund then it would be okay to say that Atlanta won't be an issue for them.

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Today at 11:58:06 AM
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Last season Arsenal also performed extraordinary in the Premier League. Arsenal even beat Man City in several meetings last season in the Premier League and other domestic leagues. And I remember last season many people also hoped that Arsenal would also play very well in the Champions League. But what happened last season seemed to be that Arsenal was not mentally prepared for the big pressure from a big league like the UCL. But this time or this season, I think Arteta has prepared the Arsenal squad much better. And yes, with their current condition, Arsenal will actually be very favored in the UCL. But yes, provided they remain consistent with their performance as they showed in the Premier League.
In this season, we are having Arsenal as a completely different side because they are doing good job and trying to keep things on good level as with in last few seasons they were doing good job in early rounds but at the end they were facing pressure which were hurting them, and they were paying with loses and having no cup but in this season we are having better strategy, and they are doing much better performance which is going to have good impact on their rest of the season.

In game against Atlanta, most people were expecting them to win, but they were not able to score with Atlanta were dominating force, but they handle them on good way, so things are well-balanced in last game against Manchester City they were playing with 10 players in all second half but keep things at the top level which is good success for them with this confidence we can expect good results from them.
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Atalanta's performance in the Champion's League so far has been commendable, especially considering they are the defending Europa League champions. Their chances of advancing to the last 16 are indeed promising, given they need to face only Arsenal, Real Madrid, and Barcelona, and they have already secured a point against Arsenal.

True, all true, but how much did Atalanta spend? Very little. I believe it is one of the few teams that has spent nothing or almost nothing as it develops players in its spring.
It's clear now that facing Real Madrid (faced) and Barcelona are very difficult challenges, never mind. We will do better next season.

I can't say anything about Real Madrid, their situation this year is a little different. I think they still cannot play football with the quality expected from them. Barcelona, ​​on the other hand, is showing a truly legendary performance. I can say that they are the best team this year. Atalanta is a good team, they haven't made many transfers, but they already have players who play harmoniously with each other. They won't have much chance against Barcelona, ​​but they can win the match against Real Madrid Smiley

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AC Milan have an opportunity to get their first win of their Champions League campaign this season when they face Bayern Leverkusen next, hopefully they can get redemption for their lose to Liverpool in their first fixture to move up the table or else face difficult getting points to secure their promotion to the next stage of the tournament.


For now it is too risky to believe in betting on Milan victory because the inconsistent performance is slightly weakening making our bet lose. As we can see at that time you can see Milan unimpressive performance when playing against Liverpool and on the one hand Leverkusen currently has a very strong defense and always has a defensive strategy when they can't beat their opponents.
So it would be better for me to bet on other options such as BTTS or over 3.

Possibly before the match starts I dare to take the risk on Leverkusen victory -1.
Because they draw with their opponent that make you to advise others people not to bet for the favor of AC Milan, if you know the kind strong team Leverkusen are in this tournament, you will praise AC Milan for not allow them to win the game than to draw with them. If you can still flash back last season, you will know that AC Milan didn't started performing well from the beginning of last season until when the season was about to come to an end before they started displayed well to encourage their fans, but they where not able to end the season because Real Madrid was in favourable position to wiin the trophy.

You will see what AC Milan will do in their next season, because their coach will make sure he try other players to start the game so that it can turn for their favor to secure 3 points from the game to use it to encourage their fans that they will go far in this season.

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Today at 12:58:03 PM
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Atalanta's performance in the Champion's League so far has been commendable, especially considering they are the defending Europa League champions. Their chances of advancing to the last 16 are indeed promising, given they need to face only Arsenal, Real Madrid, and Barcelona, and they have already secured a point against Arsenal.

True, all true, but how much did Atalanta spend? Very little. I believe it is one of the few teams that has spent nothing or almost nothing as it develops players in its spring.
It's clear now that facing Real Madrid (faced) and Barcelona are very difficult challenges, never mind. We will do better next season.
Well that's right. And to be honest, I don't have high hopes for Atalanta at all. Because it seems like they are only busy selling the quality players they have in the transfer market rather than bringing in more quality players to their club. Last season they were extraordinary because they managed to become champions in the European League. But at UCL I think we are all used to seeing Atalanta not being able to progress any further. And I think this will also happen again this season. Against Arsenal it was difficult and they managed to get a draw. but against Real Madrid and Barcelona it will really be very different. it will be much more difficult and I think Atalanta could even drop points. I may be a fan of Italian football but I have to evaluate it realistically. But for other matches, maybe I am quite optimistic about Atalanta. Like in the next match, Atalanta will face Shakhtar and I think it will be a victory for Atalanta.

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Today at 01:18:55 PM
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Next week we continue with the second week games after a break. There are some really interesting games are waiting for us.  Smiley

Like Arsenal - PSG and Leverkusen - Milan on Tuesday. Arsenal really couldn't make the kind of a start they would like. They could have even lost to Atalanta if it weren't for David Raya's great saves. PSG also struggled to get ahead against Girona but still won. Considering the odds below, I wasn't expecting the gap to be this big. Bookmakers underestimate PSG a little, don't you think? I even think PSG won't lose so I would rather double chance @2.05.



When it comes to the other game, Leverkusen are highly favoured which is no surprise. Milan are really not trustworthy at all to me. They didn't start well with Fonseca but that win in the Milano derby recently could motivate them more. But I still don't think they can resist Xabi Alonso's students. My choice would be Leverkusen win @1.63.  Smiley



I think both home teams are clear favourites, possibly the odds for Milan to win and for PSG to win are quite generous. It wouldn’t surprise me if one of those games is a draw. Leverkusen do concede goals, their last minute winners will not continue forever, logic says so.

Arsenal have no real pedigree in the CL so maybe PSG have a surprise for them, although no Mbappe has lessened their attacking threat.

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