Religious leader barred from casinos because of big wins.

[bitzizzix]

Logically, gambling can harm yourself and others so that it can cause many people to experience losses, misery because they lose everything, and apart from that it can destroy a household because negligence can even distance us from God.
So in my opinion, religious figures who gamble indirectly set a bad example that will harm their followers. And I don't care what the reason is and what is certain is that there will most likely be some of his followers who will imitate him, and this is contradictory because most religions prohibit gambling, let alone their leaders.

[TelolettOm]

I don't understand the rules in that country regarding gambling, so maybe it will come back to the regulations in that country and also the regulations on religion or whatever.

But in my country, gambling is prohibited. So, whether it is an ordinary citizen or even more so a religious leader, it is clearly prohibited. because if they still do gambling, then their followers can also join in gambling, because they see examples like that.

In this case, the aim was indeed noble. But the method is wrong. Shouldn't a religious leader already know that for goodness and glory, the methods and processes must also be good and noble, right? If it continues like this, then won't it actually create a risk of doubt among its adherents and could it even be that its adherents follow its lead to gamble?

So, in my personal opinion, it is not necessary, whatever the reason, as a leader or religious leader, he should be able to provide the best and noblest example according to his teachings. Don't give examples that conflict with the teachings, whatever the purpose.

and as far as I know, religions usually prohibit gambling, such as Islam and Christianity, or other religions, it seems there are also such prohibitions. But whether it's true or not, we don't see the situation directly.

Like what stated here:
Source: Gambling in Islam
Source: Gambling in Christian

[slapper]

Casino winnings by a religious leader are attributed to divine intervention. The casinos are panicking and excluding the man. It begs several fascinating issues and is a classic conflict between faith and fortune

Should someone in leadership of religion gamble? Who then are we to criticize someone's spiritual connection? Who's to argue it's not real if the Archbishop honestly feels he is getting direction? Regarding the casinos, their response makes sense given their commercial viewpoint. But banning someone for overwinning? Would you say that seems a little...unsportsmanlike? Every person choose what they believe and how they want to lead their life

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Logically, gambling can harm yourself and others so that it can cause many people to experience losses, misery because they lose everything, and apart from that it can destroy a household because negligence can even distance us from God.
So in my opinion, religious figures who gamble indirectly set a bad example that will harm their followers. And I don't care what the reason is and what is certain is that there will most likely be some of his followers who will imitate him, and this is contradictory because most religions prohibit gambling, let alone their leaders.

Exactly the point bud, I completely agree with you, it's almost like what I said in my previous comment, that doing the wrong thing for the right reasons is not justifiable, that is, when some one is doing what is clearly and absolutely wrong, but have a very good and genuine reasons for doing it, that reason won't serve as an excuse to be exempted from being punished when the time comes.

For most churches I've been and worshipped in, religious leaders have always preached against Christians gambling because it's against the Bible principles when it comes to making money and building wealth, but today, to find a religious leader himself gambling is sickening, and that raises the question of it that individual is truly called into the ministry to be a religious leaders, or that is just a profession he choose for himself? - the latter is possibly the more accurate answer.

[AbuBhakar]

Casino winnings by a religious leader are attributed to divine intervention. The casinos are panicking and excluding the man. It begs several fascinating issues and is a classic conflict between faith and fortune

It’s nonsense to connect faith to casino especially what you mention about divine intervention. No one in their right mind will consider it on gambling because they are conflict to the beliefs of religion. Maybe the casino owner just doesn’t want to suffer more losses due to the winning percentage of this player is alarming regardless of his religious status.

Should someone in leadership of religion gamble? Who then are we to criticize someone's spiritual connection? Who's to argue it's not real if the Archbishop honestly feels he is getting direction? Regarding the casinos, their response makes sense given their commercial viewpoint. But banning someone for overwinning? Would you say that seems a little...unsportsmanlike? Every person choose what they believe and how they want to lead their life

Agreed, no one should be deprived to gamble regardless of your status in life. It’s not unsportsmanlike but rather too scared probably he is living in a country which has a lot of superstition and beliefs about luck.  

[erep]

It’s nonsense to connect faith to casino especially what you mention about divine intervention. No one in their right mind will consider it on gambling because they are conflict to the beliefs of religion. Maybe the casino owner just doesn’t want to suffer more losses due to the winning percentage of this player is alarming regardless of his religious status.

This problem is not rational to link the casino with faith even he said there was divine intervention in his gambling activities and believe me his winnings were just luck on that day, I also think the same thing that the casino owner forbade him to gamble because he experienced high winnings and he had caused loss from that casino.

However, if it is claimed that he can win the casino with divine help, but why doesn't he try at other casinos and online casinos, maybe he has the opportunity to become a billionaire if he can prove this claim.

[STT]

Funny that my local church always ran gambling of one kind or another but it was purely done as a charity run game with all prizes donated then tickets acting as donations.

In this case I have to wonder where the Archbishops money would be coming from.  Surely if you stand to possibly lose your money gambling it cannot be the churchs money, it is not your money to lose or risk.   Saying I know I will win is a bad example to the congregation, if they do they same they will lose their family their homes maybe.

If the money was his own personal capital to risk and gamble then I cant object especially if he donated all of the winnings.   The casino complaining about going bankrupt sounds like they are close to doing so anyway, if they believe its fraud maybe they are afraid to say so before being able to prove it.

[Wakate]

Archbishop Emmanuel Mutumwa, who is the leader of Johanne Masowe eChishanu Apostolic Sect has been banned from betting in local casinos because of excess wins. His current win was about US$30,000 and these casino operators fear that they might go bankrupt if he continues gambling with them.

But the acclaimed prophet claim that he receives winning games from God through vision. He further stated that with his numerous wins, he has been able to pay school fees and start businesses for members of his religious organization. While other religious leaders perceive his actions as sinful, he thinks his wins are an avenue to be a blessing to the needy.

Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling? Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling?  Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?

Reference
Bulawayo prophet gambles, wins US$30,000 banned from casino

God’s Chosen Gambler?: Bulawayo Prophet Banned From Casinos for Winning Too Much

Honestly this is a funny post and I still keep wondering what the casino would have to ban him because he is winning high at the casino. This should not be a good reason why the casino would have to ban him from using their platform to bet and make money for himself. Gambling can be fun when we are making consistent money from different bets we are playing.

 I think their are other people too that had been ban from using different casinos because it has been noticed that they are always making profits which is taking their money. Why would a casino be angry when a gambler is making money from their platform? At least their should be gamblers that would be making and others that would be losing so their would be funds to pay others.

[hahay]

Casino winnings by a religious leader are attributed to divine intervention. The casinos are panicking and excluding the man. It begs several fascinating issues and is a classic conflict between faith and fortune

Should someone in leadership of religion gamble? Who then are we to criticize someone's spiritual connection? Who's to argue it's not real if the Archbishop honestly feels he is getting direction? Regarding the casinos, their response makes sense given their commercial viewpoint. But banning someone for overwinning? Would you say that seems a little...unsportsmanlike? Every person choose what they believe and how they want to lead their life

But, if the reason is about big wins, then I think billionaires can do it too but why don't they ban billionaires from playing and instead ban religious leaders like the one in question. After all, if gambling is basically not prohibited in that country, then of course everyone or everyone from any background can gamble. After all, it would be completely unreasonable for a bookie to ban a gambler just about the gambler getting a big win. After all, if their reason is to ban gamblers from winning large amounts, then they also don't need to ban someone from certain backgrounds as intended in this thread. So yes, the point is that it is very strange when bookies ban gamblers for getting big wins, unless they have certain restrictions which of course the rules can be better for them too.

[GxSTxV]

As far as I know in most religions gambling is forbidden and any person who practices it is considered a sinner, now I don't know a lot about all religions but I think that if that country allows gambling then any person can gamble freely.

If someone didn't do anything against the casino rules then I don't see a reason why he should be banned. However this person is claiming to be a prophet and has people following him and joining his religion it shows that he has a big influence there. But we shouldn't forget that casinos are businesses and they look for their own profits, if they see a risk to lose they directly go and take actions which is completely normal but I prefer that there will be a decent logic reason behind banning anyone from their casino.

[milewilda]

As far as I know in most religions gambling is forbidden and any person who practices it is considered a sinner, now I don't know a lot about all religions but I think that if that country allows gambling then any person can gamble freely.

If someone didn't do anything against the casino rules then I don't see a reason why he should be banned. However this person is claiming to be a prophet and has people following him and joining his religion it shows that he has a big influence there. But we shouldn't forget that casinos are businesses and they look for their own profits, if they see a risk to lose they directly go and take actions which is completely normal but I prefer that there will be a decent logic reason behind banning anyone from their casino.

We are all sinners and there's no exemption to that since we are just that human beings. Even into those leaders who do preaches out the word of God but silently dealing up with those things which are prohibited on which it isnt really just that limited to gambling alone but other aspects or things in life then they are still considered sinners. The thing on here is that whenever these people seen out on doing something which is really that totally opposite on what they do preach then this is where it do really gets that kind of attention on which this isnt really that shocking anymore. There are really just that those people around who do make
issues that becomes big but well it would really be just that a normal reaction specially on church leaders.

As for Gambling casinos POV, then banning those people who do often win would really be sure that be done by them yet they would really be hating up those who do win up. They would really be just that making it as an alibi about into its position or recognition but eventually this is really just that trying to cover up their true intent which trying to get rid on someone who could milked out their platform. 

[Antotena]

But the acclaimed prophet claim that he receives winning games from God through vision. He further stated that with his numerous wins, he has been able to pay school fees and start businesses for members of his religious organization. While other religious leaders perceive his actions as sinful, he thinks his wins are an avenue to be a blessing to the needy.

Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling? Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling?  Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?

I saw him trending on Twitter and I just laughed so hard. It's simple, if he said God is given him revelation to gamble and win money it's not something to feel good about, since he has been ban and not allow to gamble in the casino, let him try other casino and do the same magic and win and proves that the revelation is coming from God and there is no any sort of foul play by him or cheating the casino to deceive the public about his fake prophetic lifestyle.

Most of this men of God, I don't blame them though. It's the congregation that chose to remain brainwashed and blind and doesn't see anything outside the lies been spoon fed them by this scammers, no wonder they say when a man is too religious, he becomes too lazy to see somethings that are right in front of them. If they see black, if their so called prophet says it's white, they will agree with him and choose white as he did. End of generation signs.

[klidex]

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He will obviously be having a congregation of gamblers 
I live in a country where people look up to their religious leaders for guidance on how to live their lives. Anyone who happens to be a member of his congregation will definitely take up gambling as a lifestyle. It is not right for any religious leader to take up any lifestyle like gambling, drinking, smoking and clubbing, infact a religious leader should not be seen in certain places because his congregation will be watching and would want to emulate his lifestyle.
Not everyone should be a religious leader, obviously he is skilled in gambling, he should stick to that and avoid misleading his congregation into forming wrong habits.

Yes, with a lifestyle like that it will have a bad impact on his followers to do the same thing, such as giving an example that religious leaders also gamble so that gambling seems legal for anyone who wants to gamble even though in other environments it is strictly prohibited so it depends on the leader. If the leader is good then his followers will do good things. If the leader does deviant things then his followers will do the same thing. Every leader must already know this. Every attitude he will adopt must be maintained in such a way as not to be judged badly by society. .

If he really wants to gamble, he shouldn't do it openly. Gambling is everyone's right, but as a religious leader, it's better not to gamble, but if his desire is very high, it's better to do it secretly and not be known by his followers. That's better than being open. which gives him a bad name and he will be judged as a bad religious leader even though whether a person is bad or not is not judged by whether they gamble or not but by the nature of their personality.

[Samlucky O]

Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling?

Though there is no actual place in the bible that talks about religious leaders involving in gambling but the bible made references of how the love of money is the root of all evil 1st Timothy 6vs9-10 and also we cant serves two masters at thesame time either we chose money or chose God (Matt. 6:24). The reasons why religious people should avoid gambling is due to addiction because constancy will Leed to addiction which is not good for a religious leaders you can take a look here to see what the bible says about the love of money

Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling?  Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?

Whatever reasons he did such thing is between him and his believe. If you ask me wether it's right for the gambling site to ban him, I will say it is within the Power of the gambling site to take any decisions when they see an unusual wining because the reason for any casino is to make money and not to get into bankruptcy.

[Strongkored]

Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling? Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling?  Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?

He should not gamble, not only because it is a sin that many religious adherents believe in, but we also cannot deny that gambling often makes players more involved so that it can interfere with other activities, especially if they are religious leaders where there are many congregations that they have to take care of.
The reason he gave was just an excuse and tried to cover up his love of gambling. If he wanted to be able to share then there were other things he could do that weren't gambling.
And of course casinos have the right to ban anyone they deem worthy of being banned from playing at their casino but banning will only make players look for other casinos, not make them stop playing forever.

[Slow death]

Archbishop Emmanuel Mutumwa, who is the leader of Johanne Masowe eChishanu Apostolic Sect has been banned from betting in local casinos because of excess wins. His current win was about US$30,000 and these casino operators fear that they might go bankrupt if he continues gambling with them.

But the acclaimed prophet claim that he receives winning games from God through vision. He further stated that with his numerous wins, he has been able to pay school fees and start businesses for members of his religious organization. While other religious leaders perceive his actions as sinful, he thinks his wins are an avenue to be a blessing to the needy.

Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling? Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling?  Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?

Reference
Bulawayo prophet gambles, wins US$30,000 banned from casino

God’s Chosen Gambler?: Bulawayo Prophet Banned From Casinos for Winning Too Much

In my opinion, the casinos are wrong in banning the religious leader from gambling, because he is a person who has the same rights and duties in society as other people. The casinos know very well that this story that the religious leader wins because God helps him, is a big lie, if the religious leader really had special powers that allow him to be successful in gambling, then the religious leader would be playing the lottery because it pays more money, imagine if the religious leader had the power to see the future, then he could see which numbers would win the lottery and he would buy the ticket containing the winning number of the lottery and with that he would win many millions, because in the lottery he won a lot money. and since this religious leader says he plays to help his believers, then he would have a lot of money to help his believers. By this I mean that it is obvious that the religious leader is skilled at gambling, he does not have any superpowers and it is not God who is helping him. That's why I think casinos shouldn't ban him from playing

[livingfree]

Most of this men of God, I don't blame them though. It's the congregation that chose to remain brainwashed and blind and doesn't see anything outside the lies been spoon fed them by this scammers, no wonder they say when a man is too religious, he becomes too lazy to see somethings that are right in front of them. If they see black, if their so called prophet says it's white, they will agree with him and choose white as he did. End of generation signs.

People are still intelligent to understand what's wrong and what's right. While it's true that many are blinded by their leaders, I hope that those that are being blinded will go to the right path and light.

We can just hope for them that they'd see a pastor, a priest or leader of their faith that are doing the right thing and will avoid activities like gambling.

No question to the casino for allowing such personalities and have it banned as everyone is free of their choice whether in gambling and in faith.

But as we hope for the goodness sake, there should be some wake up call to the members of his church.

[Webetcoins]

Though there is a possibility that he might be getting signals for his bets from somewhere, I wouldn't that's the reality, and the fact that he keeps winning is probably related to the fact that he doesn't keep the money for himself but uses it for the needy and the creator cannot help but like such things done from human beings and those who does that are supported for sure.

I wouldn't say that he is doing something wrong but based on the fact that he is a religious leader, I think he shouldn't be gambling in the open because religions mostly prohibit this and even if he using the money for a good cause, he is basically not allowed to do it.

About casinos, I wouldn't blame them because they have the right to do that when they see a gambler getting excessive wins because they can't close shop just because a single gambler has won everything they had, so they have to take some action for such things.

[Justbillywitt]

Archbishop Emmanuel Mutumwa, who is the leader of Johanne Masowe eChishanu Apostolic Sect has been banned from betting in local casinos because of excess wins. His current win was about US$30,000 and these casino operators fear that they might go bankrupt if he continues gambling with them.

But the acclaimed prophet claim that he receives winning games from God through vision. He further stated that with his numerous wins, he has been able to pay school fees and start businesses for members of his religious organization. While other religious leaders perceive his actions as sinful, he thinks his wins are an avenue to be a blessing to the needy.

Do you think a religious leader should be involved in gambling? Do also accept his reason for engaging in gambling?  Are these casinos right to ban him from gambling?

Reference
Bulawayo prophet gambles, wins US$30,000 banned from casino

God’s Chosen Gambler?: Bulawayo Prophet Banned From Casinos for Winning Too Much

The casino owners are wrong in banning him, the casino should be open to everyone. The casino wasn't open so that people will keep losing. Moreover there is no sure way they can completely stop the man from placing his bet. If they don't allow him to enter he can give the game to someone else to go and play for him and bring the slip for him. If the casino are scared they should close the casino and move to somewhere else.

As regarding religious leaders gambling, it won't be nice to see my pastor in same casino hall gambling with me. If he must gamble he should play it online or give it to someone to go play it for him. Due to the perspective of how people view religious leaders. If the religious leader said he is using the wins to take care of the less privileges I support him let him go ahead and continue playing. But my own is just that he shouldn't be going to the physical casino so that his followers will not perceive him differently.

[fullhdpixel]

Are we like living in a fucked-up post-scientific revolution phase of the dark ages? Cause no way in hell the catholic church would allow someone like him to be at one of the highest seat of power in the Christian Power Hierarchy and still be able to gamble like crazy, regardless if he's winning or losing. People are getting ousted for the littlest things in the Roman Catholic seats of powers, a few weeks ago a UK priest was kicked out of his convent and stripped of his title as a priest cause he misappropriated his church's funds for powerups in candy crush. And here we have an Archbishop that is eagerly playing their shit and is even getting banned in casinos because he wins so much. Weird times man.

Every religion has their own beliefs and so we don't know bout their beliefs towards gambling. After all, only humans are creating such religious sects and making their own rules. So if that leader is involving himself in gambling, then, it is up to his followers if they will believe his teachings or whatnot. And I don't think it has something to do with his "God" why he is winning. For sure, he has strategies on why he got those winnings. Most of them will just use the name of their God so they can continue doing what they want to do in life.

There is nothing wrong with anyone gambling as long as gambling is legal and allowed within the country they are residing, but when it comes to religions and religious leaders, it becomes a different matter because a person leading others in religion, giving and teaching them lessons about doing good things and staying away from things that can be harmful to them, and maybe preaching that things such as gambling, alcohol, and sex aren't considered good if such a person is found doing any of those acts, it's not justifiable by any means.

It might be true when he says that he spends all that money on orphans or to help the needy which is the reason why he is winning, but even that reason doesn't justify the fact that he is supposed to be leading the people of his religion, and he is not supposed to set an example like this for those who follow him.