The Internet don't forget, many times Donald Trump says bad about Bitcoin

[nutildah]

Anyone dumb enough to support Trump is dumb enough to believe he knows anything about and cares anything about Bitcoin and crypto. Dude is the biggest conman liar idiot criminal in American political history. Trying to convince crypto users to vote for him is just his latest grift.

Trump is the biggest sh*tcoin of a human being American politics has ever seen. That convinced felon is rugpull from start to finish.

His only real quality as a presidential candidate is that he's not Joe Biden. He won the first time around by not being Hillary Clinton.

And of course I think the likelihood of him endorsing bitcoin/crypto while in office is about the same as him pardoning Ross Ulbricht: near zero. He will say anything to get more votes because he has no shame or conscience.

[pooya87]

It is not a good image for Bitcoin that a convicted felon is receiving bitcoin payments and some people use terms such as "crypto president" to describe this criminal. Do bitcoiners really want that image? Criminals receiving bitcoin payments?!!

His only real quality as a presidential candidate is that he's not Joe Biden. He won the first time around by not being Hillary Clinton.

That's a really sad story of a nation with more than 300 million people whose choices are being reduced to these fools and these fools only!
Worst part is that they call this mess a "democracy"!

[nutildah]

Do bitcoiners really want that image? Criminals receiving bitcoin payments?!!

Yeah BTC has never been used by criminals before, so I guess there's a first time for everything.  

That's a really sad story of a nation with more than 300 million people whose choices are being reduced to these fools and these fools only!
Worst part is that they call this mess a "democracy"!

This has been the case since before I was born. Having said that, I concede that our choices this time around are particularly unappealing.

I guess we could just have some kind of religious leader telling us what to do, that has historically worked out very well  

[Maus0728]

Finally someone pointed this one out lol, pretty sure that Trump's just doing the politician thing where they promise something and praise that something so they can sway people that are interested in that something, this has been going on for a really long time already, I don't see how it can ever be that some politician that have paid hush money to a pornstar would ever deliver what they've promised, not to mention that Trump's got them felonies so I don't know if that's helping with the argument that this is all an act so the neutral voters of the bitcoin community would be in his favor.

[Pmalek]

Trump is just a manipulator like the rest of them. He couldn't care less about Bitcoin or crypto in general. In fact, I am pretty sure he is still against the idea. Anything that competes with the petrodollar is a direct threat to those in power. Together with his advisors, he has realized that a decent percentage of Americans who might decide the outcome of the presidential elections care about Bitcoin. This is just a pathetic attempt to get those voters to vote for him. It's not different than when presidential candidates promise lower taxes, higher employment rates, better medical care, etc.

He is just addressing the current topics. One of those happens to be crypto. What else has he said? He is going to stop the genocide in Gaza and the Russia-Ukraine war. Why? Because that's what many American citizens want and are protesting for. Again, he is a manipulator. If the American public demanded that the Palestinians be completely annihilated, that's what he would be telling you in his addresses to the Nation.

Perhaps, Robert Kennedy Jr. is the best option, but he is not going to win.

[Mrbluntzy]

There's one lifestyle about politicians that I hate so much and it is the lifestyle of telling lies so that they can just win a lot of support and candidates that can make them win their contest. We have not had any president that have mentioned Bitcoin in their campaign but there are other things they have lied about during their campaign but after they finally made it to the presidential sit, they will forget all the promises they made. I thought Trump was really in support of Bitcoin but I was not aware of this part.

[Y3shot]

It is not a good image for Bitcoin that a convicted felon is receiving bitcoin payments and some people use terms such as "crypto president" to describe this criminal. Do bitcoiners really want that image? Criminals receiving bitcoin payments?!!

Lol...you know bitcoin doesn't discriminate it is just a currency for all but no one knows if truly he is a fan of bitcoin or he is just in love with bitcoin for his interest. If I were to be him it will be better for me to just do my thing and never ask for support from the crypto community because with what he is doing now just seems as if it is fake, no genuine interest for bitcoin. I'm not surprised though because politicians are very shameless, whatever decisions they take is just only for there own benefits and nothing more.

[pooya87]

Yeah BTC has never been used by criminals before, so I guess there's a first time for everything. 

Small number of criminals secretly using bitcoin in fear and getting caught quickly is not the same as a big criminal publicly accepting bitcoin bribes in the millions

I concede that our choices this time around are particularly unappealing.

These two were running in the previous round as well!

I guess we could just have some kind of religious leader telling us what to do, that has historically worked out very well 

A democratically elected leader that people vote for and choose? Why not.

[NotATether]

Donald Trump is openly available for sale.

For a few million dollars you can change his opinion about crypto, Tiktok, and basically every other negative opinion he had 8 years ago.

[Pmalek]

Donald Trump is openly available for sale.

In other words, there is no difference between him and the pornstar he gave money to for her silence. If the paycheck is good enough, you can put it in the orange hole.

[Cookdata]

There's one lifestyle about politicians that I hate so much and it is the lifestyle of telling lies so that they can just win a lot of support and candidates that can make them win their contest. We have not had any president that have mentioned Bitcoin in their campaign but there are other things they have lied about during their campaign but after they finally made it to the presidential sit, they will forget all the promises they made. I thought Trump was really in support of Bitcoin but I was not aware of this part.

I hated Trump for those comments back then and because of the way he talks arrogantly, I thought Biden was the best option and Messiah as he was backed by his ally Obama but ended up disappointed to be the worst, his own concern is regulating it, so he can task more people from that angle. Now we are both screwed between Republicans and democrats, both are not good choice for Bitcoin but Trump is been a smart ass trying to win the crypto community with votes against the incumbent government and stand firmly with my words, they don't give a damn about crypto, it's their least problem but we are in bull run and it's an advantage for them because everyone is active here, his political campaign staffs are really doing a great job.  

He is just addressing the current topics. One of those happens to be crypto. What else has he said? He is going to stop the genocide in Gaza and the Russia-Ukraine war. Why? Because that's what many American citizens want and are protesting for. Again, he is a manipulator. If the American public demanded that the Palestinians be completely annihilated, that's what he would be telling you in his addresses to the Nation.

The quickest way to beat your opponent in politics especially when you are not the one in power is to address what people want, feed them with the same propaganda and they will believe you, that's why I said he is smart ass but this is not who he is, The Trump I know is rude, he doesn't care about the press and neither does he care about your emotions, just his mind and nothing else.

Perhaps, Robert Kennedy Jr. is the best option, but he is not going to win.

I hope one day, Americans will be free from the shackles of Democrats and Republicans, it's been so many years battle between these two but I know it wouldn't continue forever.

[DooMAD]

Glad there seem to be more people are talking sense in this topic compared to the other Trump one.  Was starting to think the whole planet was descending into lunacy.  Bitcoin doesn't need personalities or politicians.  It's stronger without them.

[Die_empty]

But this was old Trump. He is now supporting bitcoin to get votes from crypto enthusiasts. There are people that have also spoken bad about bitcoin in the past. Even Michael Saylor tweeted bad about bitcoin before in 2012 or so before he realized the truth when he understood what bitcoin is.

You are not a fan boy of Bitcoin unless you own a Bitcoin. Can Trump admit that he own some Bitcoin, I bet no because he will see it as stain to his political ambition but he want donations, lmao.
The people that you claim once don't like Bitcoin aren't politicians but investors with reputations in the traditional finance and are always ready to go down one on one to defend Bitcoin, no politicians will dare do that my friend.

People might change the perception they have about anything but I doubt if Donald Trump is now pro-crypto. Michael J. Saylor has shown that he is now a full supporter by his constant acquisition and holding of Bitcoin. So comparing him with Trump is not appropriate. Trump should prove that he is indeed a fan of Bitcoin by publicly declaring he owns it. The presidential hopeful aim is to get donations and attract voters from the crypto space.

That's a really sad story of a nation with more than 300 million people whose choices are being reduced to these fools and these fools only!
Worst part is that they call this mess a "democracy"!

The US will have to choose between two evils. It is like choosing between the loin and the deep blue sea. I thought Joe Biden would have changed some wrong policies enacted by Trump including the pulling out of Iran nuclear deal and the support for Israel. But he came didn't change anything rather he is contributing to global instability.

[Z-tight]

I already said it in another topic that i hate it when people talk about BTC and politicians in the same sentence, BTC does not need politicians to grow or survive. BTC is decentralized and operates without any central authority, don't let people who are looking to score cheap points in the forthcoming election decieve you that you need to vote for them for BTC to survive and grow.

[OgNasty]

Saylor said idiotic things about Bitcoin before jumping all in as well (and he never stopped if we're being honest).  Everyone starts out as a critic.  That's a healthy attitude to have before doing your due diligence.  Now it appears that Trump has had time to learn more about crypto and has even participated himself.  He is very clearly the more pro-crypto candidate regardless of any prior statements that may have led people to believe otherwise.  No sense in trying to make it seem like something it isn't.

[Hamza2424]

Hmm, Inflation is a big problem, if someone found a way to avoid inflation with some risk to earn potential returns with additional benefits like avoiding inflation why do such politicians make creepy sounds, make public stunts for their election campaigns, and never focus on facilitating those opportunities first when they are in power? TBH I used not to mix up the policies with investment markets, as we all know to win elections politicians can go for a level of hypocrisy. That's not the case in underdeveloped countries or third-world countries, it's the same case everywhere.

But still sometimes after reading such posts, pain from the depth of my heart arises, haha in the end I can only endure it as this is not the first time we are having discussion on the same node.

[pooya87]

That's a really sad story of a nation with more than 300 million people whose choices are being reduced to these fools and these fools only!
Worst part is that they call this mess a "democracy"!

The US will have to choose between two evils. It is like choosing between the loin and the deep blue sea. I thought Joe Biden would have changed some wrong policies enacted by Trump including the pulling out of Iran nuclear deal and the support for Israel. But he came didn't change anything rather he is contributing to global instability.

It's like the same evil with two faces.

I was watching something on Youtube today where a retired army colonel (Lawrence Wilkerson, also SecState COS) was saying how Trump ruined all the work done during Obama time on Cuba and returned the draconian attitude toward that country. Something that today is starting another Cuban Missile Crisis (Russia is going to place missiles there to retaliate against US placing missiles in Ukraine. Russian warships will be there next week) and this could have been avoided very easily if Trump hadn't ruined years of work...

Guess what Obama's vice president didn't do when he became president? ‍‍
He continued Trump's draconian sanctions and inhumane blockade on Cuba... and they wonder why Cuba is getting close to Russia and why we are "seconds away from midnight"!

[Majestic-milf]

 Why should we be surprised that a politician suddenly becomes loved up with Bitcoin? Heck, they are politicians and as such it's a normal thing to jump to whatever opinion that suits your agenda. We're are saying Trump is a two faced person, what about RFK Jr who denied he ever had any Bitcoin in his holdings till data proved otherwise?
 It's not news and I won't break my head over this if I were you. I'm sure if Bitcoin were to be a person who decides to punish those who had spoken ill of it and are now turning to sing it's praises now it has gotten a headway, I'm sure news outlets would have had a field day trying to get a scoop.

[nutildah]

I concede that our choices this time around are particularly unappealing.

These two were running in the previous round as well!

The difference is they were both already too old last time and they are 4 years older this time.

Saylor said idiotic things about Bitcoin before jumping all in as well (and he never stopped if we're being honest).  Everyone starts out as a critic.  That's a healthy attitude to have before doing your due diligence.  Now it appears that Trump has had time to learn more about crypto and has even participated himself.  He is very clearly the more pro-crypto candidate regardless of any prior statements that may have led people to believe otherwise.  No sense in trying to make it seem like something it isn't.

Saylor is a lot like Trump: he will also say anything to increase his own personal standing with whomever he is currently trying to impress. That's the beauty of being a narcissistic sociopath: being totally unencumbered by any sense of moral responsibility & unable to experience shame.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Victory at any cost is Trump's motto now. And if you need to be a crypto enthusiast, he will create an image for himself as such without going into details at all. However, does America have any options? Anyone running for president today will do whatever is necessary to achieve their goal. But after that, everything becomes familiar from old times, when promises are forgotten and words remain just words.