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June 12, 2024, 05:17:07 PM
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There was an old topic where a newbie was actually making claims about how he can use and how he has used his math knowledge to win frequently in casino games and that he can give any one such strategy, but I guess he was just seeking attention or means to scam people. In my opinion and from my experience in gambling, having math knowledge doesn't determine winning continuously in gambling. Skill and strategy can give a gambler an advantage to win, but they don't work all the time. If a gambler is not lucky, they can still run losses several times.

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June 12, 2024, 05:34:22 PM
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Understand maths helps in gambling expecially in prediction and analysis of previous match, getting accustomed to some odd and Lotto numbers. There is a friend of mine that studies a wining game by even or odd number. He can tell you a draw match with the odd also he can tell a wining game from the odd, sometimes I wounder how he does that, so looking from the paspective of this thread, I believe math has a role to play in gambling but that doesn't mean that every game staked must have a sure wining. Gambling still remain a game of luck despite how smart, calculative or mathematical we might tend to be, we must surely win and lose.
mathematics and probability theory will not help you in any way in winning, but will rather deprive you of the pleasure of the game itself. Since these two disciplines simply will not have practical and useful applications, it will be easier to organize your games but will not bring you closer to victory, why then do great mathematicians not play casino?)

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June 12, 2024, 06:37:31 PM
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For the first time, it should be noted and remembered that the chances of winning in lottery-type gambling are very low. and Even if you have tried to calculate the probability, it can in no way provide a guarantee that you can win the lottery. Lottery numbers are usually drawn randomly, so there is no specific formula or mathematical analysis that can calculate the numbers that will come out.

And I think, someone who is great at mathematics, then they will never get into gambling. Because the only thing that counts in gambling is losses and losses. A mathematician will know very well that gambling will only waste our money and time in vain.

And although there are several stories where a mathematician got a big win from the lottery, I don't think it was his calculations that were correct, but rather his strong luck, so he was able to achieve that win.

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June 12, 2024, 07:00:04 PM
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The fact is math is damn too important aside from gambling but also in our everyday lives. Now back to gambling, not all gambling activities require mathematical calculations. Some require very little some moderately and others not necessarily much but you would have a far greater edge with mathematical knowledge. Like I always say, all gambling activities involve luck and analysis but the both may vary based on the particular gambling activity.
Personally I believe gamblers good at mathematical problems have an edge over a regular gambler who plays games that require lesser mathematical IQ. This is because a gambler good at maths will easily migrate to any gambling game and still ace it easily.
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June 12, 2024, 07:04:51 PM
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Who remembers this old line- the lottery is a tax on people who don't understand math. Let's shift from the lottery and talk about gambling. In gambling do you think that your understanding of math would make you better at gambling. Not necessarily by making you hit the jackpot, but in winning moderately, gambling responsibly, and in choosing strategies for games like poker or blackjack, over games of pure chance like slots or roulette? And now, back to the lottery quote, do you agree?

The lottery is just like slots in my opinion even though it has branding that must use mathematical calculations in fact it is just a fortune, because some people also cannot be correct in calculating it so that the numbers come out according to the calculation, especially with the many ways of calculating today including using AI, of course it will be easy to guess if it is based on mathematical calculations but in my opinion it is not, everything goes back to how you get lucky with the same 4 numbers that are used as entries.

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June 12, 2024, 08:51:23 PM
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In gambling do you think that your understanding of math would make you better at gambling. Not necessarily by making you hit the jackpot, but in winning moderately, gambling responsibly, and in choosing strategies for games like poker or blackjack, over games of pure chance like slots or roulette? And now, back to the lottery quote, do you agree?
yeah, I agree, the lottery is a tax on people who do not understand math. also, if you understand math you'd most likely be more cautious towards gambling since you know the probability of you winning and losing in the long run. you'd also be more responsible about your gambling habits and probably be more picky when it comes to what games you want to play and you would probably choose games that don't heavily rely on luck.

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June 13, 2024, 02:23:49 AM
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The fact is math is damn too important aside from gambling but also in our everyday lives. Now back to gambling, not all gambling activities require mathematical calculations. Some require very little some moderately and others not necessarily much but you would have a far greater edge with mathematical knowledge. Like I always say, all gambling activities involve luck and analysis but the both may vary based on the particular gambling activity.
Personally I believe gamblers good at mathematical problems have an edge over a regular gambler who plays games that require lesser mathematical IQ. This is because a gambler good at maths will easily migrate to any gambling game and still ace it easily.
I agree that not all games require detailed tedious calculations. In most cases when calculations are required, it is very simple mathematics. For example, when we calculate probabilities, we must in most cases find out the total number of cases and relate them to the number of cases whose probabilities we are calculating. Again, this is relatively simple math. I would ask another question here: Why do you think that mathematics and nothing but mathematics is so important here? After all, in any game in which you expect to win, you need a strategy. And strategy is something that is usually based on logic rather than mathematics.

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June 13, 2024, 04:17:13 AM
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I once read a true story about someone good at mathematics and it helped him quite a lot in card games but he didn't play it in a casino just with his friends, so I don't know for sure whether it will be the same when he plays in a casino but I think the results will be the same, because card games work the same way in casinos and the real world.
However, for other games in casinos such as slots or others that depend entirely on luck, of course, being good in mathematics will not be very useful because the results are entirely up to our luck, because no one can calculate luck or even predict when they are lucky, the same goes for sports betting, in my opinion, there are still other factors that we cannot predict so the results are still likely to be wrong.

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June 13, 2024, 05:25:38 AM
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i don't think that people who understand mathematics are necessarily better at their gambling, but perhaps they understand better how to manage their finances and take into account things that can make them lose more.  because they are more logical and have calculations which can make them wiser in managing their gambling, but this does not increase their probability of winning.

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June 13, 2024, 06:23:44 AM
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i don't think that people who understand mathematics are necessarily better at their gambling, but perhaps they understand better how to manage their finances and take into account things that can make them lose more.  because they are more logical and have calculations which can make them wiser in managing their gambling, but this does not increase their probability of winning.
I have heard that some successful gamblers are good mathematicians but I don't have any concrete evidence to prove it. While growing up it is common to see gamblers with pens and jotters which they use to calculate games, odds and predictions. However, the advent of online gambling has changed the narrative. Most of the maths calculations can be generated automatically online. It is now common to see illiterates or those who have no basic knowledge of mathematics winning games. Calculation skills contribute little to gambling these days because it depends mainly on luck.

But maths could be handy when it comes to making gambling decisions. You need to have some basic knowledge for you to plan your gambling activities because it will help in budgeting and risk management.

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June 13, 2024, 06:47:28 AM
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When playing gambling, I don't needs to use math but only play the games as usual. I don't understand math like other people so that's why I don't thinks much about gambling and only trying to enjoy my spare time. But I guess other people can use math while they playing gambling because they thinks that math can helps them to wins in gambling.

That will be up to them because playing gambling will depends on our comfortably. If we comfort use math in gambling, we will use it. But if not, we will not use math and only playing gambling as usual. We don't needs to makes ourselves do many things while gambling because we only wants to fills our spare time by playing gambling. The important thing is we can playing gambling with calm, not use too much money, and we can enjoy our spare time to playing gambling.

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June 13, 2024, 07:08:24 AM
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Who remembers this old line- the lottery is a tax on people who don't understand math. Let's shift from the lottery and talk about gambling. In gambling do you think that your understanding of math would make you better at gambling. Not necessarily by making you hit the jackpot, but in winning moderately, gambling responsibly, and in choosing strategies for games like poker or blackjack, over games of pure chance like slots or roulette? And now, back to the lottery quote, do you agree?


I strongly agree for the simple reason that usually the lotteries are invented by mathematicians themselves.For example where I live the biggest two state lotteries have been created by some university math professors.They have created the game in such a way that even the one who wins the biggest prize does not hinder the profit of the company that runs this lottery.This way I have confirmed that yes the lottery is a tax on people who don't understand math.

When it comes to gambling is not true as poker and blackjack rely mostly on skills in the long run and if you are patient you can win there.People who go and choose slots or roulette clearly don't understand math.

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June 13, 2024, 11:03:09 AM
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Like I always say, all gambling activities involve luck and analysis but the both may vary based on the particular gambling activity.
Personally I believe gamblers good at mathematical problems have an edge over a regular gambler who plays games that require lesser mathematical IQ. This is because a gambler good at maths will easily migrate to any gambling game and still ace it easily.
I guess the aspect that's related to the application of maths in gambling is when you're doing your analysis and permutations on the choicest of all the games available and checking out for possible factor that could lead to a team performing below or above gbe expectation that's required of them which will go a long way to determine the outcome of the game.

Maths is very important is almost everyday life and I guess that's the reason why it's made compulsory at high school so everyone could get the basic foundation that will be useful for them in the future. Sometimes you could read the statement that's coming from certain club to know if they are having some internal issues that will affect there concentration on the field of play. These are all calculation and the application of maths.do your analysis right and you won't loose that much so I totally agree that  having the knowledge of maths could make you the better gambler but that's not just what makes you to win after you've placed your bet. It's still a 50/50 thing even after you've done all your maths and you could win or may not.

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June 13, 2024, 11:08:20 AM
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i don't think that people who understand mathematics are necessarily better at their gambling, but perhaps they understand better how to manage their finances and take into account things that can make them lose more.  because they are more logical and have calculations which can make them wiser in managing their gambling, but this does not increase their probability of winning.

Exactly the point, If you understand the math behind gambling then you will skip playing a gambling game with least possibility of winning while you can focus on game like blackjack, poker and other skill based game to improved your winning chance. Knowing what game to play is already a factor for being a godd gambler.

But this is useless on games like lottery, slots and other games that depends on luck alone since no amount of math that can help you improve winning percentage,

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June 13, 2024, 12:36:58 PM
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Who remembers this old line- the lottery is a tax on people who don't understand math. Let's shift from the lottery and talk about gambling. In gambling do you think that your understanding of math would make you better at gambling. Not necessarily by making you hit the jackpot, but in winning moderately, gambling responsibly, and in choosing strategies for games like poker or blackjack, over games of pure chance like slots or roulette? And now, back to the lottery quote, do you agree?


Poker yes. Math in poker is key in my opinion. If you play tons of games in poker and you are aware of the math and the position game, it will definitely raise your chances of winning. A player who thinks shoving 33 from UTG1 100 times in a row will lose more often and be out of the tournament than a person knowingly not shoving that pair of cards.

I don't know too much about blackjack, but I assume that math does help here. Or at least some sort of ability to count and remember things. In roulette it pretty much is irrelevant to know the math unless you are trying to pull off some bankroll strategy, but in the end the edge is against you.

As for the lottery, I think a lot of smart people do play the lottery, too. Everyone knows they are not gonna win, but this feeling that there could be this unreal jackpot in your hands for some godlike reason makes time sometimes more enjoyable. Most people don't spend fortunes either.
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June 13, 2024, 12:40:53 PM
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I myself have played the lottery for quite a long time. Until now, we still haven't found the exact mathematical formula for making a profit from this game.
At best, when you find a mathematical formula that is quite effective, there will be times when you will definitely face defeat too.

Well, I believe that this type of gambling requires quite good knowledge of mathematics, where this type of gambling requires gamblers to calculate which numbers are correct for 2 numbers to 4 numbers. To be honest, I am weak in mathematics so sometimes I applaud people who play lottery, every days of counting the numbers for victory

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June 13, 2024, 12:52:08 PM
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Who remembers this old line- the lottery is a tax on people who don't understand math. Let's shift from the lottery and talk about gambling. In gambling do you think that your understanding of math would make you better at gambling. Not necessarily by making you hit the jackpot, but in winning moderately, gambling responsibly, and in choosing strategies for games like poker or blackjack, over games of pure chance like slots or roulette? And now, back to the lottery quote, do you agree?


I think this might help. For example, I know a person who uses statistics for betting. That is, he calculates the probability of the outcome and bets on it. About a year ago he bet on Mancity (I don’t remember exactly, it seemed like Mancity) that the score would be 2-2, because this team had not had this score for 40 or 50 matches at that time, and in the middle 2-2 the score is played every 30 games. He bet on about 20 matches in a row and played at high odds on 21 of those matches. Now I could be a little wrong in the numbers, but you understand the meaning.
So yes, I believe that in some cases a person using mathematics can be successful, but it is still not reliable enough. There is no universal formula for making money in gambling

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June 13, 2024, 01:08:49 PM
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Maths involves critical mindsets which is about problem solving and equal to the tax of equality and inequality.
So, applying mathematical terms on decision making in gambling can never be underrated.

In sport bets, the ideals of comparing teams capacities and their playing formations evolves around the logic of calculations which is maths.

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As far as I am concerned especially in the gambling arena, good mathematical understanding is of no use if the gambler cannot manage his own money. Mathematics is of no use here controlling one's emotions Proper management of money can lead to victory. It is better to proceed wisely so that no gambler will be at risk.

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June 13, 2024, 01:40:31 PM
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As far as I am concerned especially in the gambling arena, good mathematical understanding is of no use if the gambler cannot manage his own money. Mathematics is of no use here controlling one's emotions Proper management of money can lead to victory. It is better to proceed wisely so that no gambler will be at risk.
yes , this is about attitude and behavior mate and the eagerness to win that knows nothing but one way to win , though we must have different approach each time we gamble , but  self control is why many gamblers are winning .
Mathematics is just a form of computation that we are doing in our money while gambling but calculation for which will win?
that is different from the using of math over gambling .

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