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June 26, 2024, 06:33:52 PM
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Trading has always had it ups and downs,but you come to realize that those ups and downs are what really makes trading interest and unpredictable,this is the reason why before one becomes a trader,he should try to see the risks of it and the good side of it because if he rushes  into it without making some research about it,knowing the right things to do,it will down on him at the zero zero hour.
Moreover,so many persons are scared away because of the pressure and fear that accompanies trading,but they need to go back and rethink,make up their mind,and come back to trading because with time,they will get to know the modus Operandi of trading,and how it works.

The problem is that we do have more traders in bull run than in bear market and what does that tell us? That's because the market is very easy and predictable for literally a newbie to make money from crypto trading and when the winter comes with bear everywhere, they most often loss everything and mostly don't return in the next circle. However, the thick skin remains to understand what they are into and magnify it to be a better trader in the next bull cycle.

The bad fear of every trader is loss, no one want to make loss in trading but it's unavoidable. There is no way you can avoid it but can control the damage with a stop loss and understanding more of risk management so you don't open trade anywhere you see pair of coins that are trending to make quick money. If you practice this, you will understand the ways of trading and wouldn't have difficulty in digesting anything that comes later.

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June 26, 2024, 07:14:50 PM
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Trading has always had it ups and downs,but you come to realize that those ups and downs are what really makes trading interest and unpredictable,this is the reason why before one becomes a trader,he should try to see the risks of it and the good side of it because if he rushes  into it without making some research about it,knowing the right things to do,it will down on him at the zero zero hour.
Moreover,so many persons are scared away because of the pressure and fear that accompanies trading,but they need to go back and rethink,make up their mind,and come back to trading because with time,they will get to know the modus Operandi of trading,and how it works.

The problem is that we do have more traders in bull run than in bear market and what does that tell us? That's because the market is very easy and predictable for literally a newbie to make money from crypto trading and when the winter comes with bear everywhere, they most often loss everything and mostly don't return in the next circle. However, the thick skin remains to understand what they are into and magnify it to be a better trader in the next bull cycle.

The bad fear of every trader is loss, no one want to make loss in trading but it's unavoidable. There is no way you can avoid it but can control the damage with a stop loss and understanding more of risk management so you don't open trade anywhere you see pair of coins that are trending to make quick money. If you practice this, you will understand the ways of trading and wouldn't have difficulty in digesting anything that comes later.
On the moment that the market would really be having that upward trend or simply saying about on bull run season then there would really be tons of people who would really be tending to jump in into the market
just because they are seeing those upward movements and really that believing that they could really be able to make easy profits on the moment that they would really be making out some investment.
Yes, its true that this is really that likely the case on which it would really be something that on the moment that the market will really be on bearish manner then tons of people or investors would really be leaving in the market and to those someone who had made out huge money on that pump would really be the ones will really be playing around when bearish market starts and making those entries on the bottom and would
be doing again the cycle and would really be hooking up another batch of those newbie investors that would really be keeping on feeding up into those investors who had placed themsevels at the bottom.

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June 26, 2024, 08:59:18 PM
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It happens because you are not sure of what you are doing as well as in the analysis that you make to conclude a calculation of market predictions will move in which direction, the results of the calculations you make still give you a sense of doubt in yourself to make decisions where to get prices.

This often happens indeed, it would be better if at the time of doubt like that turn off all your devices and go away for a while to stabilize yourself and win the day because it arises from doubts of the heart or what we call mentality in trading, rather than making decisions in doubt, it is better not to make any decisions tonight.
You're right mate, most especially if you come rushing to trade for profits, there will be high pressure and fear indeed knowing you decide to trade even if you know you're not yet capable enough. Learning market analysis and developing your right emotions in trading takes time so don't be obsessed trading for profits, but instead chase more knowledge and start with demo trading at first before finally deciding to trade using real amount of money. That way, you can minimize your future losses and prevent yourself from becoming frustrated while trading in the market.

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June 26, 2024, 09:36:42 PM
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It happens because you are not sure of what you are doing as well as in the analysis that you make to conclude a calculation of market predictions will move in which direction, the results of the calculations you make still give you a sense of doubt in yourself to make decisions where to get prices.

This often happens indeed, it would be better if at the time of doubt like that turn off all your devices and go away for a while to stabilize yourself and win the day because it arises from doubts of the heart or what we call mentality in trading, rather than making decisions in doubt, it is better not to make any decisions tonight.
You're right mate, most especially if you come rushing to trade for profits, there will be high pressure and fear indeed knowing you decide to trade even if you know you're not yet capable enough. Learning market analysis and developing your right emotions in trading takes time so don't be obsessed trading for profits, but instead chase more knowledge and start with demo trading at first before finally deciding to trade using real amount of money. That way, you can minimize your future losses and prevent yourself from becoming frustrated while trading in the market.
Yes, if a beginner has problems like the title of the OP it is better to use a demo account to trade, it is much safer than using money directly in its activities, I often advise some people like this in the world of trading.

But if not a beginner I think if you really want to continue to force to want to trade that night then the safest step is to reduce the margin used for trading, install a thinner SL with the entry area that is paired, so as not to get excessive losses from decisions that have been made, there are always ways to suppress doubts and fears but still force yourself. That might be an option.

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It happens because you are not sure of what you are doing as well as in the analysis that you make to conclude a calculation of market predictions will move in which direction, the results of the calculations you make still give you a sense of doubt in yourself to make decisions where to get prices.

This often happens indeed, it would be better if at the time of doubt like that turn off all your devices and go away for a while to stabilize yourself and win the day because it arises from doubts of the heart or what we call mentality in trading, rather than making decisions in doubt, it is better not to make any decisions tonight.
You're right mate, most especially if you come rushing to trade for profits, there will be high pressure and fear indeed knowing you decide to trade even if you know you're not yet capable enough. Learning market analysis and developing your right emotions in trading takes time so don't be obsessed trading for profits, but instead chase more knowledge and start with demo trading at first before finally deciding to trade using real amount of money. That way, you can minimize your future losses and prevent yourself from becoming frustrated while trading in the market.
Yes, if a beginner has problems like the title of the OP it is better to use a demo account to trade, it is much safer than using money directly in its activities, I often advise some people like this in the world of trading.

But if not a beginner I think if you really want to continue to force to want to trade that night then the safest step is to reduce the margin used for trading, install a thinner SL with the entry area that is paired, so as not to get excessive losses from decisions that have been made, there are always ways to suppress doubts and fears but still force yourself. That might be an option.
Demo is really just that for familiarizations and the rest would really be coming from actual trades. This is why you should really be making out that kind of outline on how you would really be that dealing up with something on which its not bad to make those demo account start up and then start to make some switch with live trading with real account balances on which we know that when it comes to demo then you wont really be that challenging yourself because you do know that you cant lose anything. This is why it would really be that recommended that you should really know on where you would be making those adjustments. Pressure and fear is something that would really be that common specially on the moment or time that you dont have the idea on what you are doing and really just that simply having those reactions.

On the moment that you would really be getting those experiences then you would really be just that able to adjust and would really be able to have the idea on what
are the things that you should gonna do since you do already have those past experiences that you have encountered which you've been wary about on how to deal up with those things.

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June 26, 2024, 10:52:04 PM
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It happens because you are not sure of what you are doing as well as in the analysis that you make to conclude a calculation of market predictions will move in which direction, the results of the calculations you make still give you a sense of doubt in yourself to make decisions where to get prices.

This often happens indeed, it would be better if at the time of doubt like that turn off all your devices and go away for a while to stabilize yourself and win the day because it arises from doubts of the heart or what we call mentality in trading, rather than making decisions in doubt, it is better not to make any decisions tonight.
You're right mate, most especially if you come rushing to trade for profits, there will be high pressure and fear indeed knowing you decide to trade even if you know you're not yet capable enough. Learning market analysis and developing your right emotions in trading takes time so don't be obsessed trading for profits, but instead chase more knowledge and start with demo trading at first before finally deciding to trade using real amount of money. That way, you can minimize your future losses and prevent yourself from becoming frustrated while trading in the market.
Yes, if a beginner has problems like the title of the OP it is better to use a demo account to trade, it is much safer than using money directly in its activities, I often advise some people like this in the world of trading.

But if not a beginner I think if you really want to continue to force to want to trade that night then the safest step is to reduce the margin used for trading, install a thinner SL with the entry area that is paired, so as not to get excessive losses from decisions that have been made, there are always ways to suppress doubts and fears but still force yourself. That might be an option.
Demo is really just that for familiarizations and the rest would really be coming from actual trades. This is why you should really be making out that kind of outline on how you would really be that dealing up with something on which its not bad to make those demo account start up and then start to make some switch with live trading with real account balances on which we know that when it comes to demo then you wont really be that challenging yourself because you do know that you cant lose anything. This is why it would really be that recommended that you should really know on where you would be making those adjustments. Pressure and fear is something that would really be that common specially on the moment or time that you dont have the idea on what you are doing and really just that simply having those reactions.

On the moment that you would really be getting those experiences then you would really be just that able to adjust and would really be able to have the idea on what
are the things that you should gonna do since you do already have those past experiences that you have encountered which you've been wary about on how to deal up with those things.
There will always be a disadvantage to everything, and in trading, one of them is that when you do a demo account, you might bring something you are not supposed to bring in an actual account. I mean, you are right, those who practice and become familiar with demo accounts should adjust what they are doing in demo accounts because, in demo accounts, you will not feel the pressure or fear of losing money. But what if you also feel that way in live accounts? Then that could be a bad thing, so when trading in demo, those traders should treat it as live trading; they should feel the pressure and fear of losing the trade even if in a demo account. In that way, they will also become familiar with what it feels like to trade in actual. The movement in demo trading is the same as in actual trading, so in that way, you will be more familiar with how the market you want to trade in works.

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June 27, 2024, 06:04:41 PM
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Trading has always had it ups and downs,but you come to realize that those ups and downs are what really makes trading interest and unpredictable,this is the reason why before one becomes a trader,he should try to see the risks of it and the good side of it because if he rushes  into it without making some research about it,knowing the right things to do,it will down on him at the zero zero hour.
You are describing like a gambling. But you’re right that the volatility is what makes trader profit in trading since the higher the changes is the greater profit they can get.

This is one of the reason why leverage was invented since trader want more price action on a stable assets such as fiat. With leverage feature, a minimal movement will resulted to a huge gain/loss depending on the leverage use.
A normal volatility rate is even enough for a trader to earn but if it's intense, it allows them to earn quicker. Fiats are stable and we should leave it as is. They also have their own use cases. Cryptos must be enough already for a trader to experience that high volatility that they are looking for but it make sense on why leverage isn't used here because that will make them highly risky.

I agree that being scared can depend on our knowledge and if we are still starting, better to avoid trading with real money first. Pressure on the other hand, will still be there even for a well-skilled trader. In order to combat it, we will need to be more organized and have more time to do trading.

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June 27, 2024, 07:53:53 PM
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so when trading in demo, those traders should treat it as live trading; they should feel the pressure and fear of losing the trade even if in a demo account.
I think a person's psychology would be difficult to arrange like that. Newbie traders who are not familiar with the exchange interface try their demo account to get familiar with the exchange. as well as try out their newly learned trading strategies without the risk of losing money.
What a beginner must achieve before trying to trade on their real account is readiness. Never try to trade if you are not ready. although we know, most beginners have high interest and want to quickly make their trades. but that is the kind of trait that beginners must overcome before starting to trade.

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June 27, 2024, 10:28:47 PM
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I think a person's psychology would be difficult to arrange like that. Newbie traders who are not familiar with the exchange interface try their demo account to get familiar with the exchange. as well as try out their newly learned trading strategies without the risk of losing money.

If you ask most profitable traders today about the secret to success they will tell you that it is the ability to control your emotions while trading. Trading psychology is like 70% of what a good trader needs and the skills should be 30%. Many people can have vast knowledge but the trading psychology to control one’s emotions will be lacking. That’s why you see some traders cutting loses and the trades later going there way.

There is nothing wrong in been fearful about a thing but once you conquer the fear even during its bad times or losses you will still not be afraid. One important lesson to take to conquer your fear in trading is to have a proper risk management. When you have the risk management like position sizing you will be able to control your emotions. Your psychology is also perfected when you adhere strictly to your trading principles.

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June 27, 2024, 10:48:17 PM
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I think a person's psychology would be difficult to arrange like that. Newbie traders who are not familiar with the exchange interface try their demo account to get familiar with the exchange. as well as try out their newly learned trading strategies without the risk of losing money.
What a beginner must achieve before trying to trade on their real account is readiness. Never try to trade if you are not ready. although we know, most beginners have high interest and want to quickly make their trades. but that is the kind of trait that beginners must overcome before starting to trade.
There's nothing wrong with trading on a demo account to get to know the stock exchange better and this also won't help us if we can't stop ourselves from being greedy for the real trades that will be made, so it's important for us when we're trading to still be able to introduce ourselves. We also always carry out analysis before making decisions on trading because without us doing analysis, of course we only hope that luck will be on our side to make a profit and in trading it is of course very unlikely that we will be able to get good results on the trades we make.

You are right, as a beginner of course they must first prepare themselves both in knowledge and also mentally strong so that they never give up on what they have started of course they must be able to get good results from the trades they make and from trading of course Of course it requires a process that is not short, of course it requires a process to be able to gain profits and only as people can survive so that they can get the results according to their wishes.

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There will always be a disadvantage to everything, and in trading, one of them is that when you do a demo account, you might bring something you are not supposed to bring in an actual account. I mean, you are right, those who practice and become familiar with demo accounts should adjust what they are doing in demo accounts because, in demo accounts, you will not feel the pressure or fear of losing money. But what if you also feel that way in live accounts? Then that could be a bad thing, so when trading in demo, those traders should treat it as live trading; they should feel the pressure and fear of losing the trade even if in a demo account. In that way, they will also become familiar with what it feels like to trade in actual. The movement in demo trading is the same as in actual trading, so in that way, you will be more familiar with how the market you want to trade in works.
People should, but people won't. They will be a lot more fearless when they are using demo, and some of them will get lucky by making some wild trades, and make a huge profit. Then, those same people will think that they can do the same at the real thing, and will try their chance, and instead they are going to end up with a lot of loss.

Demo trading should be acted like it's the real thing but we are not seeing people acting like that very frequently, that is the problem and I think it will keep being the problem as well. I think the reality is that we should consider the situation being very careful and very risky, we can't really make it work any other way. Demo can't be considered just like the real thing, it's that simple.

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There will always be a disadvantage to everything, and in trading, one of them is that when you do a demo account, you might bring something you are not supposed to bring in an actual account. I mean, you are right, those who practice and become familiar with demo accounts should adjust what they are doing in demo accounts because, in demo accounts, you will not feel the pressure or fear of losing money. But what if you also feel that way in live accounts? Then that could be a bad thing, so when trading in demo, those traders should treat it as live trading; they should feel the pressure and fear of losing the trade even if in a demo account. In that way, they will also become familiar with what it feels like to trade in actual. The movement in demo trading is the same as in actual trading, so in that way, you will be more familiar with how the market you want to trade in works.
People should, but people won't. They will be a lot more fearless when they are using demo, and some of them will get lucky by making some wild trades, and make a huge profit. Then, those same people will think that they can do the same at the real thing, and will try their chance, and instead they are going to end up with a lot of loss.

Demo trading should be acted like it's the real thing but we are not seeing people acting like that very frequently, that is the problem and I think it will keep being the problem as well. I think the reality is that we should consider the situation being very careful and very risky, we can't really make it work any other way. Demo can't be considered just like the real thing, it's that simple.
Demo are just good for familiarization but its not really that good if we do speak about enhancing up yourself when it comes to emotion aspect on which same as you said that people would really be that fearless
because the thing that would be on their mind is that they arent losing something since its really just that free money. This is something that will really be instilling into their minds and on the moment that they would really be making out some positions or entries then they wont really be that much in serious mode because they do know that they arent risking something on which it would really be that totally different on the moment that you would really be using up that real money. You would really be able to tell the difference in between conditions on which it would really be better that you do tend to start up on dealing with
real balance because you would really be that careful on every step that you would be making. Although this one wont really be still guarantee that you wont be losing but at least you would really be that
serious on what are the actions you've been making unlike when using up with some demo funds into your account balance.

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In some cases, traders often fail in trading due to coming too hastily, which in the end they just waste money and time, like those who are motivated by the success achieved by other people, but their biggest mistake is yes. as you said OP, they don't do research first to understand trading as a whole by looking at the positive and negative sides, where by first doing research like this, they will be able to evaluate and measure themselves about whether they will be able to or not. .

Basically trading is an activity that can never be predicted accurately, because the market will continue to run and create various new things which if you don't study seriously then it is possible for you to end up being fooled and becoming a victim of market fluctuations. which is significant. So in essence, if you really want to get involved in the world of trading and have a dream of becoming a successful trader, then there is no reason for you not to learn the various new things that you get, and the most important advice is to do research first from the start about whether you whether or not you will be able to go through all the difficult processes, your decision must be truly rational.

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Trading has always had it ups and downs,but you come to realize that those ups and downs are what really makes trading interest and unpredictable,this is the reason why before one becomes a trader,he should try to see the risks of it and the good side of it because if he rushes  into it without making some research about it,knowing the right things to do,it will down on him at the zero zero hour.
If you want to be a trader, then the first thing is to accumulate knowledge about trading. We are not even supposed to be deceived by the videos that we watch online, most of the videos on YouTube and other social media claiming trading is really easy are just fake. They created the videos just for their own selfish interests, but if I will be honest, trading is not really easy, and it requires constant learning and practicing if you want to be a professional trader.
 
If you think trading is so easy and you don’t learn the appropriate things that you are supposed to learn, don’t be surprised that every money you deposit and plan to trade with might be lost. So don’t be in a rush to trade, we are supposed to be in a rush to accumulate knowledge.

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You know it's normal for some activities like trading that gives out fast and instant large profits also associated with high risks and big losses, that's something that you have to break first so you can end up trading profitably. Otherwise, if you are beaten by those fears, risks and pressures in the first place, then I tell, you have no place in trading and trading will never be profitable for you.

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You know it's normal for some activities like trading that gives out fast and instant large profits also associated with high risks and big losses, that's something that you have to break first so you can end up trading profitably. Otherwise, if you are beaten by those fears, risks and pressures in the first place, then I tell, you have no place in trading and trading will never be profitable for you.
Yeah the risk is what make trading could pump out some big profit for the people that are keen and smart enough to get the advantage.
trading is basically like exploiting the weakness of the market and try to profit off it, pretty sure something like that requires so many intelligence for people to actually pull it off though arguably trading also depends on luck on so many occasions but can't deny the people that make it big are the people that know what they are doing.

this poll below to be honest, speaks a lot about what trading really is from the perspective of profit generation, even though i'm pretty sure this poll doesn't reflect the state of trader profitability in actual scenario.

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Today at 03:24:52 AM
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You know it's normal for some activities like trading that gives out fast and instant large profits also associated with high risks and big losses, that's something that you have to break first so you can end up trading profitably. Otherwise, if you are beaten by those fears, risks and pressures in the first place, then I tell, you have no place in trading and trading will never be profitable for you.

fear and doubt in trading certainly shows that the trader is actually not ready to start trading. There is still a lot for novice traders to learn before starting their trading. trading is not as simple as buying and selling at a profit. they see the risks, and the effort that beginners must make in trading is to keep the risks to a minimum.

no trade will always be profitable, but there are efforts to minimize losses so that trader development also increases. Once again, if you are not ready to trade, then don't rush to start trading without any knowledge. Trading is not a gamble that depends on luck.



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Today at 11:16:02 AM
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You know it's normal for some activities like trading that gives out fast and instant large profits also associated with high risks and big losses, that's something that you have to break first so you can end up trading profitably. Otherwise, if you are beaten by those fears, risks and pressures in the first place, then I tell, you have no place in trading and trading will never be profitable for you.
Huge profits and high risks can burn down a trader quickly once a big losses happens. That is similar to gambling with altcoins on day trading. I usually advice people to not get down into those. Long term holding for BTC is much safer, even if being traded actively, much safer than altcoins. However this comes with practice and there is no hard and fast rule to trading. You just buy at the low and sell at the high, identifying when to do that is far more important.

You do get beaten by the things surrounding trading, at times its better to step away from it. Trading is not for everyone.

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