Soldiers using gambling to cope with stress.

[bubilas]

I would like no one to become a problem gambler due to life circumstances, but unfortunately armed conflicts often make soldiers experience enormous stress. I think that the army budget needs to work out and introduce mechanisms for restoring the internal state of soldiers.
We need good psychologists and doctors who will work with this problem, restoring normal calm psyche to soldiers.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I would like no one to become a problem gambler due to life circumstances, but unfortunately armed conflicts often make soldiers experience enormous stress. I think that the army budget needs to work out and introduce mechanisms for restoring the internal state of soldiers.
We need good psychologists and doctors who will work with this problem, restoring normal calm psyche to soldiers.

Well I say something, the wars that are fought, the battles turn the thoughts and brains of people in a very ugly way, they are traumatized by what they see and do, so I think that gambling in that sense would not become an addiction, and if so, then I think that the soldier would seek to gamble without betting real money, because what is important is that he occupies his brain in something different from a war, I think that is what it is about, besides a soldier goes with his money counted, what they earn must cover their expenses, it would be very irresponsible on their part to spend it all in a casino.

[bubilas]

I would like no one to become a problem gambler due to life circumstances, but unfortunately armed conflicts often make soldiers experience enormous stress. I think that the army budget needs to work out and introduce mechanisms for restoring the internal state of soldiers.
We need good psychologists and doctors who will work with this problem, restoring normal calm psyche to soldiers.

Well I say something, the wars that are fought, the battles turn the thoughts and brains of people in a very ugly way, they are traumatized by what they see and do, so I think that gambling in that sense would not become an addiction, and if so, then I think that the soldier would seek to gamble without betting real money, because what is important is that he occupies his brain in something different from a war, I think that is what it is about, besides a soldier goes with his money counted, what they earn must cover their expenses, it would be very irresponsible on their part to spend it all in a casino.

Of course, we can only guess how hard it is to participate in combat.
But ideally, it would be better if the big money that soldiers spend on gambling was saved up for doctors. I mean specialists who, after the end of combat, would help soldiers return to absolutely normal everyday life.
And I hope that many of them will be strong enough to do just that.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Of course, we can only guess how hard it is to participate in combat.
But ideally, it would be better if the big money that soldiers spend on gambling was saved up for doctors. I mean specialists who, after the end of combat, would help soldiers return to absolutely normal everyday life.
And I hope that many of them will be strong enough to do just that.

Yes of course, I personally have always said something, soldiers in war go through moments and traumas that one has no idea about, if you watch more war movies you see very ugly things, very traumatic, I don't want to think about the reality which is much harsher, for that reason is that sometimes you see the entertainment, the cards, the fact of sleeping is already a relief for those soldiers, I see this as them playing in casinos so they can get away from that reality, but of course, money is important, you don't have to spend it all on games , on pleasure , you have to have money saved for doctors, and things that they can later enjoy.

[Mahanton]

I would like no one to become a problem gambler due to life circumstances, but unfortunately armed conflicts often make soldiers experience enormous stress. I think that the army budget needs to work out and introduce mechanisms for restoring the internal state of soldiers.
We need good psychologists and doctors who will work with this problem, restoring normal calm psyche to soldiers.

Well I say something, the wars that are fought, the battles turn the thoughts and brains of people in a very ugly way, they are traumatized by what they see and do, so I think that gambling in that sense would not become an addiction, and if so, then I think that the soldier would seek to gamble without betting real money, because what is important is that he occupies his brain in something different from a war, I think that is what it is about, besides a soldier goes with his money counted, what they earn must cover their expenses, it would be very irresponsible on their part to spend it all in a casino.

Of course, we can only guess how hard it is to participate in combat.
But ideally, it would be better if the big money that soldiers spend on gambling was saved up for doctors. I mean specialists who, after the end of combat, would help soldiers return to absolutely normal everyday life.
And I hope that many of them will be strong enough to do just that.

If you do talk about medical back up or check ups then pretty sure that this one would really be that free of charge or something that will really be part of their benefits on which when it comes to medical
consultation or any correlated to health on which its understandable that it would really be provided by the government or simply these soldiers wont really be minding themselves about saving up money
just for them to prepare themselves when it comes to medical condition. Actually its not really that to make some gambling or dealing up yourself with this even if you are a gambler on which you do have the rights on
doing so since its free for everyone. Just make it sure that this one isnt really that affecting you financially and at the same time it wont really be affecting you in regarding into your work. We do know that soliers
would really be needing on having that presence of mind when it comes to this manner on where you would really be that definitely needing not to think yourself on dealing up with other things.
Playing on vacant time would really be just that fine but playing amidst of duty? That would really be that surely a suicide and not something which isnt really that recommended. You arent really just that putting
up your money at risks but also you are putting up your life at risks. This is why it would really be best that you should really be doing this on the time that you are really that free or off duty.
Who would really be on their right minds on doing such act in the middle of your duty and responsibilities or simply at your work?  Coping up some stress? it will really really be tons of options but
there are people who are really that a fan on sticking on what they do like.

[Agbamoni]

If the soldiers gamble to strengthen their morale and refresh their minds, then this gambling is not bad for them, but I am talking about those people who cannot control themselves and gamble. A soldier went to war and while going to war he gambled and at a stage of gambling he became addicted to gambling then how could he concentrate on war. They should gamble in such a way that wins and losses do not affect them. If their motive is that they will gain at any cost by gambling then the matter may go the other way for them so a soldier may gamble just for fun without any expectation of profit.

That was why I suggested that instead of banning gambling outright, the military authorities could place some level of restrictions. Having a percentage of their earning that they can gamble with might be a good option and restricting their gambling activities to a certain period could be good.

No matter how good an activity might be to a set of individuals, it will still be abused by a few. There will still be soldiers who might abuse these gambling privileges. The government should also set up mechanisms to identify soldiers who are going through gambling disorders and help them go through counselling and even gambling therapy. Risking one's life for the good of the nation is the highest form of selflessness, so anything to make a soldier happy should be highly esteemed. 

How do you think they will be able to restrict the limit to what they gamble. Gambling is individual activity as long as a person has access to his funds he would choose to gamble whenever he likes as well as how much he will spend on it daily. Of course, there is a limit to the amount a military personal can have access to monthly but don't forget that he may choose to use all the money to gamble.

I agree with the fact that screening should be done to fish out those who are gambling addict or other gambling disorder. And early sensitization should be given to them on how to limit how they gamble.

[Fortify]

Eight Hundred years ago King Richard enacted a law that restricted his soldiers from gambling during wartime. This was because it was observed that soldiers used gambling to overcome the stress of war.

Recently Ukrainian Pavlo Petrychenko soldier put forward a petition calling on Kyiv to address concerns about gambling among its battle-worn soldiers. Online gambling and access to mobile phones have made it very easy for soldiers to engage in betting under any condition.  His concern was that soldiers were falling into debt; of gambling firms using patriotic-themed advertising and tactics to target soldiers' business, and of possible security threats from Russian casino sites.

His observation was supported by many Ukrainians who signed the petition and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy saw the need to control the gambling behavior of soldiers. Ukrainian higher authorities have since ordered officials to ban soldiers from all gambling activities and to put Ukraine's gambling industry under tighter control.

Now, do you think soldiers who have left home for a long time and are going through boredom should be restricted from engaging in gambling which helps reduce their stress? If gambling does not have any effect on their performance on the waterfront and they gamble responsibly, do you think there should be restrictions?


https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-war-soldiers-gambling-industry-1.7189835

I doubt gambling was banned because it was helping soldiers overcome the stress of war - that is just the excuse that people would give when they were caught doing it. It might have helped to break up the monotony and create a distraction from the fear of death that existed all around them, but it was very short term. The reason it was banned was because it creates disharmony in the ranks, creating rivalries between soldiers and possibly creating debts between the soldiers. That is bad for any army to contend with because you need to be able to rely on every soldier around you for the optimal army. If you owed money to one of the people around you due to a gambling debt, you might be less inclined to help them in battle.

[Zadicar]

Eight Hundred years ago King Richard enacted a law that restricted his soldiers from gambling during wartime. This was because it was observed that soldiers used gambling to overcome the stress of war.

Recently Ukrainian Pavlo Petrychenko soldier put forward a petition calling on Kyiv to address concerns about gambling among its battle-worn soldiers. Online gambling and access to mobile phones have made it very easy for soldiers to engage in betting under any condition.  His concern was that soldiers were falling into debt; of gambling firms using patriotic-themed advertising and tactics to target soldiers' business, and of possible security threats from Russian casino sites.

His observation was supported by many Ukrainians who signed the petition and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy saw the need to control the gambling behavior of soldiers. Ukrainian higher authorities have since ordered officials to ban soldiers from all gambling activities and to put Ukraine's gambling industry under tighter control.

Now, do you think soldiers who have left home for a long time and are going through boredom should be restricted from engaging in gambling which helps reduce their stress? If gambling does not have any effect on their performance on the waterfront and they gamble responsibly, do you think there should be restrictions?


https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-war-soldiers-gambling-industry-1.7189835

I doubt gambling was banned because it was helping soldiers overcome the stress of war - that is just the excuse that people would give when they were caught doing it. It might have helped to break up the monotony and create a distraction from the fear of death that existed all around them, but it was very short term. The reason it was banned was because it creates disharmony in the ranks, creating rivalries between soldiers and possibly creating debts between the soldiers. That is bad for any army to contend with because you need to be able to rely on every soldier around you for the optimal army. If you owed money to one of the people around you due to a gambling debt, you might be less inclined to help them in battle.

Actually its not really just that limited on those soldiers alone but also into those other employees as well on which as long you dont able to perform your duty well then it would really be that understandable
that it would really be that something a violation on committing out on doing something in times of work hours. There's no exemption for this and no employer would really be happy for their workers on
doing such gambling or activity on the time that they are working. Somehow we are speaking about soldiers on here on trying to get involved with gambling to ease stress or cope up with it.
Actually there's no issue in regarding into this one because anytime you could really be able to play freely as long its your off duty but on the time that you've been doing this on your
duty hours then this would really be that a huge issue.

[Hispo]

I would like no one to become a problem gambler due to life circumstances, but unfortunately armed conflicts often make soldiers experience enormous stress. I think that the army budget needs to work out and introduce mechanisms for restoring the internal state of soldiers.
We need good psychologists and doctors who will work with this problem, restoring normal calm psyche to soldiers.

Well, in order for any of that to work out both country at war first need to cease hostilities and allow their soldiers to go home for a well deserved recovery. Leaving the geopolitical consequences aside, seeking for rehabilitation, psychological rehabilitation for a while army of men from Ukraine is a pretty much giant work and it would take the rest of the European Union to help to address the problem, by providing healthcare to those affected by the postraumatic disorder and the lingering stress from being in the front.

Also, people in this thread talk about soldiers becoming addicted and actually running into debt by gambling while on duty, I know something like that would be possible but it would imply soldiers taking credit cards with whtm to the front or other mechanism for them to access credit while battling for them country. It does not sound like something which could become a problem as quick as it sounds.

[TheUltraElite]

Also, people in this thread talk about soldiers becoming addicted and actually running into debt by gambling while on duty, I know something like that would be possible but it would imply soldiers taking credit cards with whtm to the front or other mechanism for them to access credit while battling for them country. It does not sound like something which could become a problem as quick as it sounds.

I dont know much about how soldiers get to spend their money while on a tour but I guess there must be methods because we are living in the 21st century and everyone knows how to use the internet and mobile phones. However gambling is not something I prefer a soldier should do, because like others have pointed out it is a method to escape from the horrors of war, just like alcohol and drugs are.

The easier solution is the end of wars and prevalence of peace, but this will recur from time to time as we are seeing in the last 2years.

Overall, this shows that gambling is common among all people, specially those who are under psychological problems, instead of talking to a counselor, they commit to gambling.

[knowngunman]

How do you think they will be able to restrict the limit to what they gamble. Gambling is individual activity as long as a person has access to his funds he would choose to gamble whenever he likes as well as how much he will spend on it daily. Of course, there is a limit to the amount a military personal can have access to monthly but don't forget that he may choose to use all the money to gamble.

I think it would be better to restrict them completely from accessing gambling than attempting to limit what they can gamble. As far as they have access to gambling, adhering to a particular fixed limit can be hardly realistic even though thorough investigation should be carried out. They can play from different sites aside the popular ones just to avoid been tracked. People have different mentality to this gambling and you can't tell which among them will gamble responsibly or recklessly.

The nature of their work is very sensitive and requires a good working brain that is not stressed to carry it out effectively. At times, some loses comes with mental disorder if they're least expect and someone who's always in possession of gun needs to be mentally stable at all times to avoid transfers of aggression.

[bubilas]

How do you think they will be able to restrict the limit to what they gamble. Gambling is individual activity as long as a person has access to his funds he would choose to gamble whenever he likes as well as how much he will spend on it daily. Of course, there is a limit to the amount a military personal can have access to monthly but don't forget that he may choose to use all the money to gamble.

I think it would be better to restrict them completely from accessing gambling than attempting to limit what they can gamble. As far as they have access to gambling, adhering to a particular fixed limit can be hardly realistic even though thorough investigation should be carried out. They can play from different sites aside the popular ones just to avoid been tracked. People have different mentality to this gambling and you can't tell which among them will gamble responsibly or recklessly.

The nature of their work is very sensitive and requires a good working brain that is not stressed to carry it out effectively. At times, some loses comes with mental disorder if they're least expect and someone who's always in possession of gun needs to be mentally stable at all times to avoid transfers of aggression.

It seems to me that ultimately there is no way to track where and how much soldiers gambled. And the command will not do this, because the headquarters needs obedient soldiers, and it does not matter how much money these guys have in their accounts. The main thing is that they follow orders. And most likely, it is even beneficial for the headquarters that soldiers constantly need money, because then they will always be on the battlefield. A soldier with a zero balance on his card will not say: I am leaving because I have saved up enough money. Such a soldier will gamble, fight, get money ... and again and again. A vicious circle.

[Smartprofit]

Eight Hundred years ago King Richard enacted a law that restricted his soldiers from gambling during wartime. This was because it was observed that soldiers used gambling to overcome the stress of war.

Recently Ukrainian Pavlo Petrychenko soldier put forward a petition calling on Kyiv to address concerns about gambling among its battle-worn soldiers. Online gambling and access to mobile phones have made it very easy for soldiers to engage in betting under any condition.  His concern was that soldiers were falling into debt; of gambling firms using patriotic-themed advertising and tactics to target soldiers' business, and of possible security threats from Russian casino sites.

His observation was supported by many Ukrainians who signed the petition and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy saw the need to control the gambling behavior of soldiers. Ukrainian higher authorities have since ordered officials to ban soldiers from all gambling activities and to put Ukraine's gambling industry under tighter control.

Now, do you think soldiers who have left home for a long time and are going through boredom should be restricted from engaging in gambling which helps reduce their stress? If gambling does not have any effect on their performance on the waterfront and they gamble responsibly, do you think there should be restrictions?


https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-war-soldiers-gambling-industry-1.7189835

War is an absolute evil. There are many evils in life - diseases, aggression, betrayal, disasters, but war is the greatest of all evils. I do not know whether soldiers should be restricted in gambling.
From what I know (theoretically), smartphones are strictly prohibited at the front (especially smartphones connected to the mobile Internet). Any such smartphone allows the enemy to detect the location of enemy infantry and destroy it with an artillery salvo or a missile launch.
In addition, in war conditions, a person simply cannot relax and play in an online casino. It is the same as drinking alcoholic beverages.
Any relaxation in such a situation immediately leads to a mistake (and a mistake leads to death).
But the problem, in my opinion, is not gambling, the problem is in such an unnatural entity as war.

[Dewi Aries]

Basically, as we know, gambling is always recommended only as an activity to entertain ourselves when we are in boring free time, meaning that gambling can be a solution to overcome boredom, and of course a soldier who is on a mission will definitely have problems in terms of calm, the war situation will be full of tension, and to divert attention, gambling can indeed be used as an alternative to overcome these problems.

So that means gambling can indeed be used as an activity to relieve stress or tension due to other things, but before that, make sure that you are also aware that gambling can cause stress, so besides being able to overcome problems, of course gambling can also cause problems, don't let something that you consider a solution to relieve stress end up causing more problems, I hope the soldiers already know and are aware of this so that they can remain vigilant in the sense of treating gambling in moderation.

[ethereumhunter]

The nature of their work is very sensitive and requires a good working brain that is not stressed to carry it out effectively. At times, some loses comes with mental disorder if they're least expect and someone who's always in possession of gun needs to be mentally stable at all times to avoid transfers of aggression.

That will be worsen if they came back from the war without any rehabilitation and directly go home to meets their family and do many things. Their minds may think about the war situation so when they meet someone that is not agree with them, they can becomes emotional and can harm other people.

But if their work in the military base in the city, maybe they will not have a high tension because of their work. They can handle without a problem and can still do many things without interfere their emotional. These soldiers may have fun in the gambling and they can knows how to control themselves while playing gambling.

[the rise]

no one can guarantee that they will be responsible, restrictions are very necessary, moreover gambling will also interfere with their performance, so the conclusion is that there is no need to gamble to relieve stress, there are many positive activities that can be done

[mirakal]

Basically, as we know, gambling is always recommended only as an activity to entertain ourselves when we are in boring free time, meaning that gambling can be a solution to overcome boredom, and of course a soldier who is on a mission will definitely have problems in terms of calm, the war situation will be full of tension, and to divert attention, gambling can indeed be used as an alternative to overcome these problems.

So that means gambling can indeed be used as an activity to relieve stress or tension due to other things, but before that, make sure that you are also aware that gambling can cause stress, so besides being able to overcome problems, of course gambling can also cause problems, don't let something that you consider a solution to relieve stress end up causing more problems, I hope the soldiers already know and are aware of this so that they can remain vigilant in the sense of treating gambling in moderation.

For them, gambling isn't about hitting it big like in casinos. It's more about unwinding and having some fun after a long day in the field. Win or lose, they don't stress about it because, in the end, it's usually the winner who treats everyone. This kind of thing is pretty normal in military camps, and the officers allow it because they understand the reality of their situation.

That's why we can say that this kind of gambling actually helps them a lot. It lets them enjoy life a bit, even while being far from their families, and it promotes social bonding as well.

[hedgeh0g]

Honestly, I didn't even doubt it and even yesterday I just had thoughts about it. I thought that people with a lot of stress at work or in other conditions, have a huge stress and they need to put it somewhere. They can't just sit with it and do nothing, a person has a defensive reaction, he needs to either place bets or relax with alcohol or something like that. Today's life is full of stress, maybe because of this more and more people are starting to place bets. Soldiers are certainly in the highest risk zone of potential players, because it is difficult for them to keep themselves within the rules of the game.

[Reatim]

I would like no one to become a problem gambler due to life circumstances, but unfortunately armed conflicts often make soldiers experience enormous stress. I think that the army budget needs to work out and introduce mechanisms for restoring the internal state of soldiers.

Wars are long and lonely. It is not always that they are on the battlefield. There are times where they will just need to rest somewhere and take camp. But even in times like that they can’t be totally relaxed. Which is where gambling probably comes in. It’s entertaining and it distracts them from their current state. The resources are also very limited that there is not much entertainment to go about.

We need good psychologists and doctors who will work with this problem, restoring normal calm psyche to soldiers.

I am sure many go through psychologists because a lot of them suffer from PTSDs. But while at war, only medical professionals who can amend physical health are probably able to be with them. Even then, those medical professionals are also soldiers. They can’t keep a psychologist with them during war and they probably wouldn’t have the right environment for a therapy session either.

[bakasabo]

How do you think they will be able to restrict the limit to what they gamble. Gambling is individual activity as long as a person has access to his funds he would choose to gamble whenever he likes as well as how much he will spend on it daily. Of course, there is a limit to the amount a military personal can have access to monthly but don't forget that he may choose to use all the money to gamble.

I think it would be better to restrict them completely from accessing gambling than attempting to limit what they can gamble. As far as they have access to gambling, adhering to a particular fixed limit can be hardly realistic even though thorough investigation should be carried out. They can play from different sites aside the popular ones just to avoid been tracked. People have different mentality to this gambling and you can't tell which among them will gamble responsibly or recklessly.

The nature of their work is very sensitive and requires a good working brain that is not stressed to carry it out effectively. At times, some loses comes with mental disorder if they're least expect and someone who's always in possession of gun needs to be mentally stable at all times to avoid transfers of aggression.

A soldier is not a robot or a mechanism that can work without rest. So its completely up to them what they do at their free time. I dont believe that any soldier, that is on duty or during battle, thinks about the bet he has placed yesterday, or think how he is going to return and play slots. In fact, it might be even better if he would have a goal to return and gamble, because he will then put 200% effort to survive and complete his task. I would say moreover, soldiers need something to relive stress more than anyone else.