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June 26, 2024, 03:07:27 AM
Merited by hugeblack (6), bitmover (3), dkbit98 (1), Kruw (1)
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Wasabist.IO - Wasabi Wallet Coordinator Explorer

Hello everyone, i've noticed that after closing the official wasabi wallet coordinator there is lack of good-looking centralized information about current coordinators.
Time to fix this Wink

Introducing the wasabi wallet coordinator explorer: wasabist.io

Main features:
- autodiscover coordinators over NOSTR protocol
- real-time information update
- API
- full logging of all rounds for all coordinators including input/output addresses, TX ids, tx amounts, time took and so on
- information on how to connect
- trend charts

This is non-commercial project, it took me ~1 week to develop it, so yes it's still in beta and may contain an errors.
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June 26, 2024, 10:09:21 AM
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This is exactly what I was looking for with all the different coordinators I could never compare and track amount of coins that are coinjoined, until now.
It would be nice if users could sort all coordinators manually based on specific parameters.

I think that another service wabisator.com is showing some additional information about amount of coins needed for Free coinjoin, and I think they have listed ten coordinators, one more than on wasabist.io

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June 26, 2024, 11:13:30 AM
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Thanks for feedback. I discover coordinators over NOSTR, so, looks that one you mentioned doesn't advertise it's service there.
Free amount for coordinators with fee is shown when you point your mouse on coordinator`s fee on main page (that's is why it's has dotted underline). For free coordinators it makes no sense to show this information, because they are fully free.
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June 26, 2024, 03:24:52 PM
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I'm extremely impressed with the project! My only suggestion would be to also mention somewhere that you can also use the BTCPay Server coinjoin plugin as your client, not just Wasabi.

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June 26, 2024, 03:46:19 PM
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I'm extremely impressed with the project! My only suggestion would be to also mention somewhere that you can also use the BTCPay Server coinjoin plugin as your client, not just Wasabi.
Thanks it'll be in next update as well.
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June 26, 2024, 03:57:06 PM
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I am impressed too!

When I click about "how to add my coordinator" the pop up doesn't open well in mobile, take a look.

Congratulations on your project. I will take a further look in wss://relay.primal.net/ , which is where you get your data from. Correct?

I didn't know you could get all this information there
 

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June 26, 2024, 05:11:01 PM
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Nice project, interface is clean. You can add a Tor link and more details about each coordinator.
At some point api.gingerwallet.io may only work via gingerwallet so it is best to exclude any coordinator with KYC regulations.
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June 27, 2024, 04:42:21 AM
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Nice project, interface is clean. You can add a Tor link and more details about each coordinator.
At some point api.gingerwallet.io may only work via gingerwallet so it is best to exclude any coordinator with KYC regulations.
I would be glad to add tor url, but tbh it makes no sense because wasabi wallet makes all connections over TOR, also it's not currently possible to automatically discover tor api urls.
Ginger coordinator is currently compatible with wasabi wallet and advertising it's service over NOSTR, once they stop being compatible with WW i'll remove them. Also they are marked as KYC/AML coordinator on main page.

I am impressed too!

When I click about "how to add my coordinator" the pop up doesn't open well in mobile, take a look.

Congratulations on your project. I will take a further look in wss://relay.primal.net/ , which is where you get your data from. Correct?

I didn't know you could get all this information there
 
Mobile version is on the way as well. Relay is correct, yes.

Thanks for feedback
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June 27, 2024, 09:06:01 AM
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Nice project, interface is clean. You can add a Tor link and more details about each coordinator.
At some point api.gingerwallet.io may only work via gingerwallet so it is best to exclude any coordinator with KYC regulations.


Currently, the GingerWallet has its own coordinator integrated directly, which cannot be changed. We believe it is much simpler to think in terms of plug and play, providing a ready-made solution without the need for users to search the internet separately. Nevertheless, it is not excluded that anyone can use our coordinator with the help of an external program. For example, in the past, Trezor used the Wasabi coordinator in its own application.
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June 27, 2024, 10:44:32 AM
Last edit: June 27, 2024, 12:34:48 PM by molnardavid84
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Good job - professional!


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once they stop being compatible with WW i'll remove them

It will be the opposite, Wasabi won't be compatible with the current coordinators, including Ginger. Wasabi is planning to have breaking changes in the future https://github.com/WalletWasabi/WalletWasabi/tree/Downsize%2BFOSS. My latest information from them is "No rush ... minimum 6 months until the hard fork".

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Also they are marked as KYC/AML coordinator on main page.

Ginger does not perform any KYC (Know Your Customer) checks. While the AML (Anti-Money Laundering) procedures are correctly implemented, they do not apply to user transactions, that occur on the client side in a P2P manner. It would be accurate if the text would be: "The coordinator applies AML procedures for coinjoin transactions.".

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June 27, 2024, 10:58:28 AM
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Nice project, interface is clean. You can add a Tor link and more details about each coordinator.
At some point api.gingerwallet.io may only work via gingerwallet so it is best to exclude any coordinator with KYC regulations.


Currently, the GingerWallet has its own coordinator integrated directly, which cannot be changed. We believe it is much simpler to think in terms of plug and play, providing a ready-made solution without the need for users to search the internet separately. Nevertheless, it is not excluded that anyone can use our coordinator with the help of an external program. For example, in the past, Trezor used the Wasabi coordinator in its own application.
Everything is OK, but I would agree with hugeblack proposal to remove the coordinator with the KYC procedure. I'm not sure Coinjoin and AML/KYC can go together.
Perhaps a separate table should be made for such cases since the table shows the percentage of participation of each coordinator in the daily CJ change.

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June 27, 2024, 02:23:50 PM
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I'm not sure Coinjoin and AML/KYC can go together.

What do you mean? Ginger provides the same coordinator in that sense as zkSNACKs which was working well for years until the shutdown. It had AML as well.
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June 27, 2024, 06:08:07 PM
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It will be the opposite, Wasabi won't be compatible with the current coordinators, including Ginger. Wasabi is planning to have breaking changes in the future https://github.com/WalletWasabi/WalletWasabi/tree/Downsize%2BFOSS. My latest information from them is "No rush ... minimum 6 months until the hard fork".
You are a ginger prophet now?  Roll Eyes
Even if that happens someone will fork Wasabi to make it work with all coordinators.
Since we are making predictions I will predict that joinstr + electrum wallet will make wasabi obsolete.

What do you mean? Ginger provides the same coordinator in that sense as zkSNACKs which was working well for years until the shutdown. It had AML as well.
Enough with this AML nonsense.
I didn't saw anyone complaining when US government sent 3940.28420566 BTC few days ago to Coinbase...
Suddenly government used a magic trick and turned dirty bitcoins into clean, without using mixers or coinjoin.

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June 28, 2024, 07:22:38 AM
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Some updates have been published:
- added sorting (saves to cookies)
- added filter for only success rounds
- information about coinjoin plugin for btcpayserver now showing by click on 'connect'
- some minor fixes and UI improvements
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June 28, 2024, 08:40:56 AM
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Nice project, interface is clean. You can add a Tor link and more details about each coordinator.
At some point api.gingerwallet.io may only work via gingerwallet so it is best to exclude any coordinator with KYC regulations.


Currently, the GingerWallet has its own coordinator integrated directly, which cannot be changed. We believe it is much simpler to think in terms of plug and play, providing a ready-made solution without the need for users to search the internet separately. Nevertheless, it is not excluded that anyone can use our coordinator with the help of an external program. For example, in the past, Trezor used the Wasabi coordinator in its own application.
Integrated one (and not free) is expected, but could you please add normal UI for changing coordinator, without edit of json files? It'll not break your "plug and play" because your coordinator will be set by default and for user it changes nothing. You're adding a level of complexity to the simple thing to make more profit, that's obvious, let's not beat around the bush. Pretty sure you got enough by running WW coordinator while working there, so lets make things more configurable by default.
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June 28, 2024, 11:11:44 AM
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Personal request - could you change the name of my coordinator in the list from btcpay.kruw.io to just kruw.io ?  Users who try to visit btcpay.kruw.io will only find a login page that they can't do anything with, but they will see some educational material about coinjoins if they visit the main page of kruw.io  Smiley

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What do you mean? Ginger provides the same coordinator in that sense as zkSNACKs which was working well for years until the shutdown. It had AML as well.
This does not mean that it is a good solution.
I will not risk a single satoshi to go through an AML check by Ginger's wallet. I don't deal with crime or anything illegal, but I don't want any additional requests when I anonymize my coins.

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