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June 30, 2024, 09:53:24 PM
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Having guts feelings or no guts feelings, no one would place their bet on gambling without feeling positive about it, that they can win.

If most of us do have the guts that we will lose in our gambling endeavors, do you think we would keep having the zeal to continue gambling without having the guts to win?

In an actual sense, the gut feeling to win is what keeps us trying our luck in gambling and when our predictions are predicted correctly, we begin to act like we already know what the result of our bets would be like, that's why we pick them at first, forgetting to note that it's just luck or coincidence not by mathematical calculations cos such a thing never works apart from being lucky.

OP, I think what I explained, it's how the man in your story felt about his winning on scratch Chrome Scratch ticket.
For sure most of us would really be having that kind of positivity whenever we do purchase up some tickets. Whom would really be having that kind of negative mindset on the moment that they would be purchasing tickets?

Of course you would really be having in mind that you might be able to win or hoping that you would be able to hit the jackpot on which it would really be just that normal to have that kind of approach considering that this is the main reason on why you had bought tickets in the first place. For mathematical aspect then it would be no sense yet this one cant really be applied specially on lotteries since odds would really be that close to impossible.
As for that emotions on the moment that you buy tickets then the positivity is there and that speaking about gut feeling then we would really be always having this. We would really be that positive that we would be able to hit the jackpot.

It did really just turned out that he was lucky on that point on which hitting those numbers would really be needing that extreme luck considering the odds or chances on winning then it isnt something
that a guaranteed thing to hit even if you are betting or buying tickets in a lifetime. So there would really be always a significance in speaking about luck in overall gambling or betting.
This is why dont make yourself that too delusional that there would really be things that affect your luck rate.

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June 30, 2024, 11:26:13 PM
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So in case where you are buying a lottery or scratch ticket, would you abide by your gut's feeling whether to purchase to bet on the combination of a number? 
I would but it will still end up about how lucky we are and as you've said, it's a coincidence if ever we've won some jackpot from there. We would make some stories on how it went and as a winner, you're free to say that it might be your guts, it can be a coincidence or it is you that's been calculating and doing all of the math work until you're able to land that jackpot. It doesn't really matter because there have been people that have won the lottery based on their stories, they're able to figure it out through their mathematical strategies.

Do you believe that instinct can help a person win in a chance based gambling games?
I do think so and others surely are also thinking like this; "I think it is my lucky day as my guts tell me so". That's what guts is, it's a guess and a feeling that we're having but the fact that gambling games are all about luck, or if not all, most of them are. There will be part that we're having an instinct that we might be in danger, we might be in luck or whatever is, sometimes it's real, sometimes not.

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June 30, 2024, 11:58:47 PM
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I don't believe in these superstitions, personally.
I don't even think what happened is a coincidence. Do you think he would have bought that ticked if his gut feeling told him he won't win? I'm sure he wouldn't.
So there is a very high chance any one who wins the lottery had had this gut feeling. So it can't be a coincidence. Most gamblers keep gambling because they believe/their gut feeling tells them they will win the next bet.

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July 01, 2024, 08:15:11 AM
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In this case, there's nothing like mathematical calculation; he did agree with his instincts, and coincidentally, he was right. That doesn't mean that if he believes in his guts, he will win the bet all the time. If he really thinks it was mathematical calculation or guts, then let him continue to win consistently. That's when he will realize that it is never possible to achieve such a success because everything depends mostly on luck and not expertise. 
Crazy how some persons think that they can actually calculate their way to winning in gambling be it lottery ticket or any form of gambling. If there was any atom of the possibility that people can actually mathematical calculate the outcome of their games or bet then the success rate of gambler in this earth would be something else and besides even the people hosting or having these gambling business would allow that to be possible as they are actually running a business system and not a charity home.

Well, it's simple: if anyone thinks it's mathematical calculations that make them win in gambling, that means they are not supposed to lose any bets they make, because it's expected that through their calculations, they are not supposed to lose any bets, and they are expected to make accurate predictions all the time. They could even be making accurate predictions and selling to other bettors, but the fact remains that it's not possible. No one can win all their bets straight up without losing a single bet. Luck is what makes gamblers win, no matter the strategy they are using, and no matter what strategy one is using to make profit from gambling, it doesn't work all the time. 

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July 01, 2024, 08:27:03 AM
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Does a human have the instinct to feel or know the outcome of gambling?  In this article it was said that the winner have the positive guts after buying the ticket and eventually won $2m or is it just a coincident?

I looked for some discussion on the internet and I agree with one of the replies on qoura[1] that the winner on Sportsbet does not rely on luck but rather on the mathematical calculation of the information presented by the data of the competing team but in this case, it is different since the game is based on chance and it would be hard to calculate the possible result since the data of distribution of the said ticket is unknown.

So in case where you are buying a lottery or scratch ticket, would you abide by your gut's feeling whether to purchase to bet on the combination of a number?  Do you believe that instinct can help a person win in a chance based gambling games?

For me, the person involved in the story just got a lucky coincidence that he has chosen the winning scratch ticket and has nothing to do with his gut's feeling.  Everyone has a positive gut feeling whenever they are engaging in chance-based gambling games and a majority of them fail miserably losing all their bankroll and even beyond that.

Well, your last paragraph have answered the question completely for me, in a game based on chance; or luck as we often refer to it as, there is nothing as one winning because they believed, or had the faith that they will win, who ever wins; won because he or she is lucky, and thats it.

It's just like you've said, I personally have gotten involved in several types of games, ranging from sport betting to slot games, casino games,  lotto and the rest, and talking about lotto, I've played lotto both online and offline, and each time I bought a ticket, I was highly optimistic that I will win, but at the end of the day, I discover I didn't win, and one thing with being overly optimistic with stuffs like this is that, if at the end of the day, you lose, It makes you very disappointed, but if you win, you start telling the whole world that you won because you believed you will, completely forgetting the place of luck.

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July 01, 2024, 09:27:23 AM
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I can say that everyone bought scratch ticket out of gut feeling.
ain't no way people feeling so unlucky gonna just go buying some scratch ticket randomly, so the chance of people trying to explain their luck by just simply having gut feeling is higher than you probably expected.

since it's basically just game of luck, i'm pretty sure the winner wins because it's pure luck, so I think anyone thinking it's due to math calculation or something like that, just overthinking it.
the guy got lucky that's all.

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July 01, 2024, 12:10:34 PM
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I believe in instinct as I've had that hunch a few times. Sometimes it was about a person that I knew, or someone I just saw, or about a house that I was in. You know, sometimes there's that something you feel about someone. One time my friend came to me with a new girlfriend and I told him afterwards that It's going to end bad for them. He of course thought I envy him or something and stopped talking to me for a while, but a few months later she left him and he came back to his senses. Anyway, he has a wife now so it all turned out well, but I tell you, gut feelings exist. You're sometimes drawn to a person or a place, and other times you want to stay away from them.
I believe he might have had that gut feeling when buying the ticket, but that also could have been misinterpreted excitement.
To be honest, it's hard to believe in something like this, but I also don't deny that premonitions are sometimes right and sometimes wrong, because several times I have also done it and experienced it, and some are right and some are wrong, this cannot be understood how it works let alone described with a logical explanation, maybe this is a mystical thing in humans themselves.

Or the winnings is staged  Grin.  There are instances where some gambling institutions go rouge and leak a possible winning scratch ticket and the location where it can be purchased. It can then be bought by someone known by an insider and published the said event creating some interesting setup like premonition or other things that will give a possible sensation to the story.  I am not saying that the one stated on the articles is a setup but things like what I stated happened.



[1] https://lotterycodex.com/how-to-win-the-lottery-mathematically/
[2] https://lotterycodex.com/lottery-formula/
What is your point I also do not deny that maybe some people who say that they are lucky because they get a hunch and then they get the winnings in full, I also do not deny that this may be a foolishness by some Lottery bookmakers to attract customers to buy lottery tickets from them, it does not rule out the possibility if indeed some cases are a fabrication of them.

But honestly there are some events or decisions that are based on hunches then you get lucky in your life, it's true and maybe you've felt it too in your life so far in any case, we also can't deny that maybe it's really the luck of the hunch, we might need to find out the truth by telephoning and how the person is currently, whether he has gone on vacation or is in the same state as before which could be a sign that his victory is a fabrication to increase news insight about the lottery.

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July 01, 2024, 03:21:37 PM
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In this case, there's nothing like mathematical calculation; he did agree with his instincts, and coincidentally, he was right. That doesn't mean that if he believes in his guts, he will win the bet all the time. If he really thinks it was mathematical calculation or guts, then let him continue to win consistently. That's when he will realize that it is never possible to achieve such a success because everything depends mostly on luck and not expertise. 
Crazy how some persons think that they can actually calculate their way to winning in gambling be it lottery ticket or any form of gambling. If there was any atom of the possibility that people can actually mathematical calculate the outcome of their games or bet then the success rate of gambler in this earth would be something else and besides even the people hosting or having these gambling business would allow that to be possible as they are actually running a business system and not a charity home.

Well, it's simple: if anyone thinks it's mathematical calculations that make them win in gambling, that means they are not supposed to lose any bets they make, because it's expected that through their calculations, they are not supposed to lose any bets, and they are expected to make accurate predictions all the time. They could even be making accurate predictions and selling to other bettors, but the fact remains that it's not possible. No one can win all their bets straight up without losing a single bet. Luck is what makes gamblers win, no matter the strategy they are using, and no matter what strategy one is using to make profit from gambling, it doesn't work all the time. 

Exactly, I agree with something you said which is based on a rational mindset that makes logic, I also agree with you and I think it is very reasonable to say that if they succeeded in getting the victory based on the mathematical skills they have then they should in the previous or subsequent sessions they didn't lose at all, or it could be interpreted that they should have become rich people by now. Selling predictions to other people can also be a way to increase profits if everything they say is true, that they can produce wins with the calculation skills they have. But yes, that doesn't always happen, meaning defeat is always a certain thing, never mind, friends, stop continuing to fool or maintain ignorance within yourself, because no matter what, the possibility of defeat will always be a part of gambling, meaning you definitely have the opportunity to lose and lose money. Gambling depends on luck and luck always comes by chance, meaning there is no consistent element to always achieve the same results. And if there really was a truly accurate way to always win then I'm sure no one would want to work.

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July 02, 2024, 11:56:19 AM
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There are many stories on the forum from lucky people who won big. And everyone’s feelings are always different; some will claim they know how to predict, while others will simply rejoice at Lady Luck. But there are times when we know with a sixth sense what can happen at a certain moment. And probably then you need to listen and go buy a lottery or be in the right place at the right time. I believe in luck, but, as psychologists say, all our wishes tend to come true; you can’t put pressure on it, make a wish, and then forget it. And perhaps one day this will not require any calculation but only a positive attitude.

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Gamblers don't run out of positive and strong gut feeling. And this persistent gut feeling is the very reason why they insist on gambling even if this means borrowing money for it. This same gut feeling is the very reason why money that is intended for more important things are wasted on gambling.

Sometimes I myself give in to gut feeling, but I know very well that it is a fallacy. I don't believe in it. Gut feeling is irrational, and yielding to it would cause more harm than good. More often than not, gamblers are only using this gut feeling thing as an alibi. The truth is that they just want to gamble.

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July 02, 2024, 02:04:05 PM
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Gambling is a game of luck, there can be some levels of calculations in some of them like sports bet but what majorly determines win or loose is luck. I don't believe that mathematical calculations or guts can make somebody to win in gambling, if it were so, many people will learn the mathematical skills and build their guts to be winning in gamble and eventually it will become common. Also, gambling companies would have raised alarm if winnings does not depend on luck because they will be running their businesses on lose. Any gambler that wins big and says that it is because of their guts and mathematical calculations, I will say that they are just exergerating to gain attention to themselves.
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July 03, 2024, 02:11:46 PM
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Was it a Gut's feeling a Mathematical calculation or a Coincident? gambling, the betting or staking of something of value, with consciousness of risk and hope of gain, on the outcome of a game, a contest, or an uncertain event whose result may be determined by chance or accident or have an unexpected result by reason of the bettor's miscalculation. Google say it all

Meaning there is a chance of accident and i would say that is coincidences gut feeling in y opinion is just pure luck

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July 03, 2024, 06:02:53 PM
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Exactly, I agree with something you said which is based on a rational mindset that makes logic, I also agree with you and I think it is very reasonable to say that if they succeeded in getting the victory based on the mathematical skills they have then they should in the previous or subsequent sessions they didn't lose at all, or it could be interpreted that they should have become rich people by now. Selling predictions to other people can also be a way to increase profits if everything they say is true, that they can produce wins with the calculation skills they have. But yes, that doesn't always happen, meaning defeat is always a certain thing, never mind, friends, stop continuing to fool or maintain ignorance within yourself, because no matter what, the possibility of defeat will always be a part of gambling, meaning you definitely have the opportunity to lose and lose money. Gambling depends on luck and luck always comes by chance, meaning there is no consistent element to always achieve the same results. And if there really was a truly accurate way to always win then I'm sure no one would want to work.

Personally for me, I think gambling is 90-95% dependent on luck and one thing I discovered is that casinos can be very tricky in terms of bankroll management. For example each time am playing a casino game, if my staked amount is low, they can allow me to have a 3 streak winning but the moment I increase my staking amount, they will allow me to lose multiple times too as much as I won during the first time that I only staked a little amount. I feel that casinos allows gamblers to win multiple times so that they can feel tempted to increase their staking amount.

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So in case where you are buying a lottery or scratch ticket, would you abide by your gut's feeling whether to purchase to bet on the combination of a number?  Do you believe that instinct can help a person win in a chance based gambling games?

For me, the person involved in the story just got a lucky coincidence that he has chosen the winning scratch ticket and has nothing to do with his gut's feeling.  Everyone has a positive gut feeling whenever they are engaging in chance-based gambling games and a majority of them fail miserably losing all their bankroll and even beyond that.

I can confirm that as a regular lotto bettor, there was a time in my betting when I used my gut feeling. I even took the form at home and meditated on what numbers could possibly come out.

The best that I could come out with was 3 to 4 numbers with consolation. I was better off picking the lucky pick. I have more winnings on consolation than motivating my mind to come out with a gut feeling.

I'm still looking for that jackpot, but as a jackpot seeker, it's better to rely on many methods. in the end, my belief is if you're in luck, that's when you can hit the jackpot whatever method you're using.

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No unfortunately no such thing exists, it's just our brain that likes to play tricks on us and we shouldn't fall for them. First of all, doesn't everybody have a good feeling when placing a bet, playing loterry or is buying a scratch ticket? At least for me I only play when my gut tells me it's a lucky day. For more than 15 years I have been playing scratch tickets always thinking today is the day where I am going to win the big jackpot, but it never happens.

15 years with no luck is real determination haha

many people would have given up after so many years since they never win the big prize, i am sure they would have said that it’s a real scam but having that much hope is very impressive
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Our gut is not a good indicator of us actually winning, in trading they have done so many tests and shown that emotions are not a good basis for a profitable trading strategy.  The guy was just lucky with his tickets, there will always be one winner for the jackpot in these scratch tickets.
i don’t think there’s any logic behind these tickets unlike in trading where you have to make educated decisions. with tickets you just have to pray and hope

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So in case where you are buying a lottery or scratch ticket, would you abide by your gut's feeling whether to purchase to bet on the combination of a number?  Do you believe that instinct can help a person win in a chance based gambling games?

For me, the person involved in the story just got a lucky coincidence that he has chosen the winning scratch ticket and has nothing to do with his gut's feeling.  Everyone has a positive gut feeling whenever they are engaging in chance-based gambling games and a majority of them fail miserably losing all their bankroll and even beyond that.

I can confirm that as a regular lotto bettor, there was a time in my betting when I used my gut feeling. I even took the form at home and meditated on what numbers could possibly come out.

The best that I could come out with was 3 to 4 numbers with consolation. I was better off picking the lucky pick. I have more winnings on consolation than motivating my mind to come out with a gut feeling.

I'm still looking for that jackpot, but as a jackpot seeker, it's better to rely on many methods. in the end, my belief is if you're in luck, that's when you can hit the jackpot whatever method you're using.
One thing that for sure is common among gamblers is to always believe that they will be lucky in their picks before they put it into action. This is what motivates a lot of gamblers that make them to gamble or bet with huge amount of money unknown to them that luck is what determines your win.

The gambler that believes he will win his pick from Lotto had the same mindset and he was lucky that he followed his instinct to pick the numbers which was in his mind and lucky enough for him those numbers were able to make him hit the jackpot. No one will be able to know when the spirit of luck is telling your how to go about your bet but only few follows that voice.

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What had happened to that man is very relatable. And that feeling does not come very often. It happens sometimes that you will just have this strong conviction and assurance that you are going to win something or do something, even when you know you have a 0% chance or qualification for that position. You ask if it's a mathematical calculation and the answer is no. It is based on luck backed by his assurance that he coincidentally won the bet. Meanwhile, a person can still have such a gut and still not get lucky. That is why i said before that it doesn't happens often because it is impossible that this man has been trying this thing for quite some time with so much gut still, he had not won anything. However, it did work this time. Perhaps he would have said in his interview that he was certain about this time which we all know it was lucky this time around.

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July 28, 2024, 03:18:29 PM
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What had happened to that man is very relatable. And that feeling does not come very often. It happens sometimes that you will just have this strong conviction and assurance that you are going to win something or do something, even when you know you have a 0% chance or qualification for that position. You ask if it's a mathematical calculation and the answer is no. It is based on luck backed by his assurance that he coincidentally won the bet. Meanwhile, a person can still have such a gut and still not get lucky. That is why i said before that it doesn't happens often because it is impossible that this man has been trying this thing for quite some time with so much gut still, he had not won anything. However, it did work this time. Perhaps he would have said in his interview that he was certain about this time which we all know it was lucky this time around.
Yes, this is indeed a fortune that at the same time is accompanied by a belief that is in us. Many say that our minds can control what will happen, for some things I agree with that, but if it is related to gambling then I cannot immediately agree with such an assumption. I have experienced many defeats, and uniquely I always assume that I will win at that time, then can that then be said as a wrong hunch? I think not.

besides that, can we distinguish between a hunch and an ambition that comes from our lust because we want to win? I think no one can answer that. In gambling, we actually want to continue to win and that is what drives our minds, even though if we learn from what we have experienced in the past, then we will conclude that the feeling comes for no clear reason other than our ambition to win the game.

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Another article caught my attention and wanted to share it with you to know your thoughts about the subject matter.

A person won $2m after having a positive gut feeling after buying a scratch Chrome Scratch ticket.  More story on the link given below:

Seattle Man Has “Gut Feeling” After Buying Scratch Ticket, Wins $2M


Does a human have the instinct to feel or know the outcome of gambling?  In this article it was said that the winner have the positive guts after buying the ticket and eventually won $2m or is it just a coincident?

I looked for some discussion on the internet and I agree with one of the replies on qoura[1] that the winner on Sportsbet does not rely on luck but rather on the mathematical calculation of the information presented by the data of the competing team but in this case, it is different since the game is based on chance and it would be hard to calculate the possible result since the data of distribution of the said ticket is unknown.

So in case where you are buying a lottery or scratch ticket, would you abide by your gut's feeling whether to purchase to bet on the combination of a number?  Do you believe that instinct can help a person win in a chance based gambling games?

For me, the person involved in the story just got a lucky coincidence that he has chosen the winning scratch ticket and has nothing to do with his gut's feeling.  Everyone has a positive gut feeling whenever they are engaging in chance-based gambling games and a majority of them fail miserably losing all their bankroll and even beyond that.

Everyone can come up with a story after the fact, but you can bet that many gamblers get "gut feelings" that they are making a good bet all the time yet end up losing. It's just a case of hindsight and not really true. He happened to win and that's great for him, but trying to involve any sort of premonition is the same as praying to god that you will win - absolutely meaningless. Some people think they have lucky numbers, maybe playing them day after day for decades, then one day 30 years after they started the combination comes out in the lottery and they think it's some magical thing connected with their "special numbers" while forgetting the thousands of other times they lost the game.

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July 29, 2024, 08:35:44 PM
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Another article caught my attention and wanted to share it with you to know your thoughts about the subject matter.

A person won $2m after having a positive gut feeling after buying a scratch Chrome Scratch ticket.  More story on the link given below:

Seattle Man Has “Gut Feeling” After Buying Scratch Ticket, Wins $2M


Does a human have the instinct to feel or know the outcome of gambling?  In this article it was said that the winner have the positive guts after buying the ticket and eventually won $2m or is it just a coincident?

I looked for some discussion on the internet and I agree with one of the replies on qoura[1] that the winner on Sportsbet does not rely on luck but rather on the mathematical calculation of the information presented by the data of the competing team but in this case, it is different since the game is based on chance and it would be hard to calculate the possible result since the data of distribution of the said ticket is unknown.

So in case where you are buying a lottery or scratch ticket, would you abide by your gut's feeling whether to purchase to bet on the combination of a number?  Do you believe that instinct can help a person win in a chance based gambling games?

For me, the person involved in the story just got a lucky coincidence that he has chosen the winning scratch ticket and has nothing to do with his gut's feeling.  Everyone has a positive gut feeling whenever they are engaging in chance-based gambling games and a majority of them fail miserably losing all their bankroll and even beyond that.

Everyone can come up with a story after the fact, but you can bet that many gamblers get "gut feelings" that they are making a good bet all the time yet end up losing. It's just a case of hindsight and not really true. He happened to win and that's great for him, but trying to involve any sort of premonition is the same as praying to god that you will win - absolutely meaningless. Some people think they have lucky numbers, maybe playing them day after day for decades, then one day 30 years after they started the combination comes out in the lottery and they think it's some magical thing connected with their "special numbers" while forgetting the thousands of other times they lost the game.
And this is something that pushes them to play even more on which they are really that believing that it could really make them be able to hit up the jackpot if they would really be that sticking into their numbers just because of gut feeling or premonition that they would really be able to win up. To those people who are really that able to win up something because of those gut or premonitions then i would really be considering it as a coincidence on which we know that there are really situations that could really be able to happen into this manner or state. This is why on the moment that they've won once then it would really be something that they will really be applying in all the betting games or lotteries that they would really be getting involved into no matter what. When it comes to gambling then the main thing that people shouldnt really be forgetting about is on how to be that a responsible and sensible gambler. On the moment that you are already that losing that much then it would really be just that right that you should really be quitting or having at least a break.


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