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July 03, 2024, 02:21:21 AM
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What happened:: Loan Defaulted

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=764495

Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5030169.msg62495472#msg62495472
Amount Scammed:  0.005BTC
Payment Method: BTC
Proof of Payment: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/9b48b27619709512e33838237f3b11d8176cd030ced4d37993b89f11a83b8ac9

Additional Notes: I have waited about a year for the repayment but failed to receive anything.


Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3319

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July 03, 2024, 02:21:36 AM
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July 03, 2024, 03:36:50 AM
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You must be a patient person. One year is  long time to wait for the repayment of your loan. Have you been communicating with the borrower? What was their reson for non repayment of your money? They seem to have run into finncial difficulty because they've been borrowing from you and others and repaying. Just wonder what happened this time.
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July 03, 2024, 05:07:20 AM
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Additional Notes: I have waited about a year for the repayment but failed to receive anything.
Considering how often you post scam accusations from your loan thread, it makes me think some users use your service as an "exit plan": get a loan, disappear.

Loan Amount: BTC0.0045
Loan Purpose: personal
Loan Repay Amount: BTC0.005
Loan Repay Date: 45 days
Type of Collateral: None
Bitcoin Address:   bc1qlsu5nqnyjem6wm3zgsual9jsufdhwd5jcg85jm
I have accepted your loan request and sent BTC to your wallet. Please check your account balance. Please repay on or before the due date to 31o4FAgLfkBaRReeZLqZZtbrzUtFdaT3jb
I haven't supported the Flag, because I can't verify for myself if it was paid back. Your repayment address has 176 transactions. It would be much better for keeping track if you don't reuse the same address.

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July 03, 2024, 06:06:36 AM
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Flag supported.

Additional Notes: I have waited about a year for the repayment but failed to receive anything.
I do not think this guy is coming back to this forum. He visited this forum last on January 06, 2024 which was 6 months ago.

I haven't supported the Flag, because I can't verify for myself if it was paid back. Your repayment address has 176 transactions. It would be much better for keeping track if you don't reuse the same address.
It would have been better if different addresses are used for each people. This can help us to know if the person paid or not. But I do not think the user will pay and not notify Shasan about the payment. Let us be expecting the user to come and prove what Shasan alleged against him is not true which I know that he will fail.

What if it is altcoins? They always have just one address. I know they can have many addresses but the altcoins wallet developers makes it to be only one address. Are there USDT wallets that has many addresses?

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July 03, 2024, 06:35:55 AM
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This is interesting and troubling.

And it sounds very much to me like an "exit scam" even though I didn't think that the word can be used in this context but it actually fits it. User requests for a loan knowing that they are leaving the forum. That's bad.

It isn't a bad idea though. Difference addresses for different people makes sense. Helps with verification too when issues like this arises. Like they say don't trust, verify. I don't mean the OP is not trustworthy, but it shows evidence beyond any reasonable doubt. This is why I understand the point LoyceV is trying to make.

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July 03, 2024, 07:39:45 AM
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It would have been better if different addresses are used for each people. This can help us to know if the person paid or not.
It even makes keeping track for OP easier, if all addresses have a label, say "DoublerHunter's loan repayment". The moment a transaction appears, it's obvious what it's for.

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What if it is altcoins? They always have just one address. I know they can have many addresses but the altcoins wallet developers makes it to be only one address. Are there USDT wallets that has many addresses?
That's irrelevant, this is a Bitcoin loan. Don't use (shitcoin) wallets that force address reuse.

And it sounds very much to me like an "exit scam" even though I didn't think that the word can be used in this context but it actually fits it.
I think the word I was looking for is "retirement plan".

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July 03, 2024, 07:51:42 AM
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That's irrelevant, this is a Bitcoin loan. Don't use shitcoin wallets that force address reuse.
It is true that this is about bitcoin and asking about USDT may be irrelevant to this discussion but I asked for a reason. Shasan is offering loan service not only in bitcoin but also in other coins like USDT. There are people that prefer the loan to be in stablecoin. What if this thread is about a loan defaulter that borrowed the money in USDT or any other coin that is not bitcoin in relation to your suggestion.

Edit:
Although, you have answered it. That bitcoin gives more evidence of payment.

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July 03, 2024, 09:31:22 AM
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I think the word I was looking for is "retirement plan".
Oh this sounds even better. But the dude will be out of retirement soon because I believe these kind of monies "free money" will be spent recklessly.

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July 03, 2024, 11:26:02 AM
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Flag supported.

Additional Notes: I have waited about a year for the repayment but failed to receive anything.
I do not think this guy is coming back to this forum. He visited this forum last on January 06, 2024 which was 6 months ago.
Checking his post history, he was trying to apply for a signature campaign before he stopped posting. Since he was not accepted and had no means to pay except payout coming through a signature campaign, he decided to abandon the account, since he could not sell it because of the loan tagged on that account.
Too bad it's just recently when Shasan opened a scam accusation against a high-ranked member.

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July 03, 2024, 02:27:16 PM
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It even makes keeping track for OP easier, if all addresses have a label, say "DoublerHunter's loan repayment". The moment a transaction appears, it's obvious what it's for.
Many loans are made through exchanges (Binance most often) due to a lower fee as an internal transaction or the eventual need for later conversion, regardless of which direction. There, it is often not possible to put a public label on an address, nor is it possible to create a large number of deposit addresses.
This is easily feasible if you have 1-2 loans per week, and as far as I've seen shasan has several loan requests per day.

In the end, if DoublerHunter appears here and confirms that he repaid the debt after all, it's not a big problem to withdraw support for the flag.

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July 03, 2024, 04:29:09 PM
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Again?  Roll Eyes
Looks like this member was a part of another large farm, that is based on feedback he received back in 2016.
I didn't check all other connected accounts, but if any of them are still active they should also be tagged for connection with DoublerHunter.
It is worth checking out profile feedback history before giving loans to anyone.


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July 03, 2024, 05:15:32 PM
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Oh ffs, I am sorry to see that has happened yet once again to you.  I do hope that you will seriously reconsider this loan business as I can't see how this can be profitable for you, having load defaulters every couple of weeks and as others said, it became a solid exit scam tactic.

Anyway, flag supported. Not that will help you get yout money back or force this scammer to come back and repay the loan but that's the least that I can do.

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July 03, 2024, 05:17:52 PM
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From the other scam accusations based on loan defaults that he has created, yes he seems very patient indeed. The problem seems to be that far too many loan defaulters have chosen him as their source to scam and for that reason he posts scam accusations against non-payers quite frequently. It cannot be easy to have all these defaults and still keep a loan business going when the easiest thing to do would be to stop.

You must be a patient person. One year is  long time to wait for the repayment of your loan. Have you been communicating with the borrower? What was their reson for non repayment of your money? They seem to have run into finncial difficulty because they've been borrowing from you and others and repaying. Just wonder what happened this time.

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July 03, 2024, 06:34:18 PM
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You must be a patient person. One year is  long time to wait for the repayment of your loan. Have you been communicating with the borrower? What was their reson for non repayment of your money? They seem to have run into finncial difficulty because they've been borrowing from you and others and repaying. Just wonder what happened this time.
I have contacted him several times always asking for an extension and after some time he stopped replying.

I haven't supported the Flag, because I can't verify for myself if it was paid back. Your repayment address has 176 transactions. It would be much better for keeping track if you don't reuse the same address.

It is the same whether support or not thanks you have not opposed. The user has not paid the loan if the user paid then the user could post on my thread about the repayment. Yet if there is anything wrong/mistake then I hope the user will come back online and will proof me wrong.

What a big list. Almost all the accounts are inactive, only Docnaster is active.

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After seeing several of your threads on this, you might want to consider extending the collateral requirements for future loans, regardless of seniority.

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Today at 01:06:06 PM
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@shasan

I think it is the right time to stop your lending to anyone. I am not sure why are you still giving loans whom you have not had a trust in years. I have been a customer of your lending for about 3 years now. I have always followed your protocols but missed it this month. You correct me then it is advisable that you become more stern with your actions and safeguard yourself.
 

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