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July 16, 2024, 12:15:25 PM
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That can lead to bad luck from overly expecting immediate results.  Best plan is to play across at least a week not just pile on in one day as its very possible to be unlucky on one day alone.

I would recommend to not allocate all your money purely to one day.   Split up the cash and come back on multiple instances, if however someone cannot win across an entire week then I can fully appreciate they may just give up at that point.
I agree with this. Just play the game and don't rush it because it could become chaos if we rush things. I did that and to tell by experience I can say that my money was just wasted too fast. It's better if we have pauses and get some rest from time to time. Gambling sites won't be running away from us, they will always be there just waiting for us to play again.
Now, if one gambler  can afford that kind of expensive habit, I think he will be okay but for an average person who just want to have some fun and kill time during his day off or a rest day then it would be better to just do it mildly without depositing everything that we have.
Therefore, prepare yourself well because even though gambling is for fun, there must still be preparation in terms of time, mentality and calmness because after all we cannot force to gamble when the situation is chaotic considering that it will actually make your gambling situation uncontrollable in the end. which will make your gambling unable to be carried out properly.

It's just that this kind of thing is sometimes not thought of further by some people, especially when they already see gambling as an ambition to get profit as if they can't delay gambling activities even though they don't have enough time to gamble which makes them take shortcuts by doing it briefly.
That is clearly the wrong choice because not only do they do it aggressively which can lead to addiction, it can also drain the balance in your gambling wallet more when forcing things like this.











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July 16, 2024, 12:26:00 PM
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That can lead to bad luck from overly expecting immediate results.  Best plan is to play across at least a week not just pile on in one day as its very possible to be unlucky on one day alone.

I would recommend to not allocate all your money purely to one day.   Split up the cash and come back on multiple instances, if however someone cannot win across an entire week then I can fully appreciate they may just give up at that point.
I agree with this. Just play the game and don't rush it because it could become chaos if we rush things. I did that and to tell by experience I can say that my money was just wasted too fast. It's better if we have pauses and get some rest from time to time. Gambling sites won't be running away from us, they will always be there just waiting for us to play again.
Now, if one gambler  can afford that kind of expensive habit, I think he will be okay but for an average person who just want to have some fun and kill time during his day off or a rest day then it would be better to just do it mildly without depositing everything that we have.

That's right, and logically, as you said, the casino will not go anywhere, and there is no loss whatsoever if you postpone your gambling activities to take a break, and it also doesn't mean that when you rest you will lose many chances of winning, remember that what is called gambling is a game of probability which means it's a matter of luck, meaning that it doesn't mean that if you continue the session without giving the slightest rest time that you will win, because basically the results in gambling can never be known.

This means just relax, don't rush, gambling calmly is more fun, and your experience is something that we can use as an example and lesson that gambling in a hurry will actually make us lose more quickly while we definitely want a good gambling session. last for a longer period of time, and another benefit is that believe me, when you always prioritize time to rest then in my opinion there is little chance of you falling into and being carried away, because rest time can be said to be our time to restore awareness within ourselves which can makes us think clearly about what to do next.

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July 16, 2024, 12:53:26 PM
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Most gamblers are low IQ(or maybe I should say dumb). Maybe that's why you can't understand their behavior. Your IQ is higher and you are smarter than the average gambler. There's a reason why the lottery is called "tax on the stupid". Slots games are the most "low IQ" gambling games. A low IQ gambler doesn't understand house edge, so he thinks that consistency will bring him big wins. Many gamblers view gambling as a process of grinding, just like having a job or building a business, which is ridiculous.
It is better to say, that among those gamblers who wish to become rich from gamblers, majority are low IQ. Because those who gamble for fun, can not be dumb. I would say that low IQ are also those, who think that they are somewhat exceptional and jackpot awaits only when they grab it, when whole gambling is random and luck. However, play till you hit it isnt does not suit gambling at all.
What you say is true, but the stupidity of thinking about using gambling as place to enrich oneself is not about low IQ but because they already have lazy attitude towards working and trying to make money more properly.
There is person boredom from working hard and they only think about things that are easy and also instant or faster, in the end gambling becomes the place they come to for that purpose, this is mistake in their approach to gambling.
Moreover, if someone has low IQ then they will not be able to gamble, here gambling requires various methods and strategies in playing which even require knowledge to place bets.
Playing strategies and knowledge in predicting bets are really needed and those with low IQ will of course never be able to have all of that.
But I would say all this is just mistake in thinking and attitude towards the gambling approach.

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July 27, 2024, 08:34:00 AM
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I am always amazed when I see stories of people who can't stop gambling, losing regularly but still hoping to win. Where do they get so much money? Because before they reach their intended goal of winning a large sum, they spend the same amount. And just as they play, despite the lost amounts, they must have a source from which they must draw money for the games. It turns into a vicious circle when, only after winning, such people go to play again and lose.

The question arises: What's the point?

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July 27, 2024, 03:39:59 PM
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One thing I'll never understand with some people is the mindset of playing and spending your balance on games like slots until you hit a big jackpot.
This is something I'll never comprehend. So many people seem to follow this train of thought, while it clearly seems quite problematic and should fall under the chasing profits/losses category. Chasing losses is behavior that some casinos (for example in the UK) are forced to regulate due to government regulation that aims to limit harm to addicted people. So for instance if you were making 1$ rolls on a 100$ balance and all of a sudden you deposit $10k, the casino will ask you for an income statement to make sure you're comfortable making this deposit without ruining your life.

Now, for the people that think they'll eventually hit a big win. Yeah, if you keep playing forever mathematically at some point you'll get a big win. How big though? Well... Slots and games with huge multipliers, aside of having also a house edge, usually also have what's called volatility. So for instance a slot that has a 1000x multiplier, won't give out these rewards 1/1000 times. It will give it maybe 1/4000. This is to make way so they can get profits but also keep some money for even bigger multipliers whenever someone hits them. And even if you hit the 1000x, in a slot with high volatility chances are that you would have lost much more money unless you were extremely lucky.

If you want to see how this translates in real life without spending any money, you could run a powerball simulator:
https://www.cuandomevaatocar.com/en/powerball/simulator/

Powerball has the hugest of rewards in pretty much any game. You could run the simulation for 50 years. i.e. your whole income earning life and still see that chances are very much against you hitting any jackpot or even making your money back.
I made the simulation of buying a ticket twice a week when the lottery runs, for 50 years, and this was the result:
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You won in prizes 8.84% of the investment
thankfully not real money, otherwise I could have bought my grandson a used car or something Cheesy

Not everyone can be a jackpot/big hit winner and that's something we ought to accept I think.

What are your thoughts on this? Is constantly chasing big wins a practice you consider ok in gambling?



A lot of people have this mindset, and it has favoured few people, there are people that showed resilience for a couple of years using less than a dollar to chase millions and it worked out for them..it's all based on luck though because some have been doing the same thing too for years and still haven't won anything.. Having this mindset can be helpful but the best approach to gambling is reducing your expectations and just playing for fun
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July 27, 2024, 03:59:44 PM
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It is better to say, that among those gamblers who wish to become rich from gamblers, majority are low IQ. Because those who gamble for fun, can not be dumb. I would say that low IQ are also those, who think that they are somewhat exceptional and jackpot awaits only when they grab it, when whole gambling is random and luck. However, play till you hit it isnt does not suit gambling at all.

It seems to me that there is no direct correlation with IQ, I would say that common sense helps to avoid losses, and it is precisely this that is often better developed in conditionally “stupid” people than in “smart” people. Many smart people (judging by IQ) come up with (and then try) different "systems" to beat the casino. I think the result is clear. Similarly, in trading on the stock exchange and any other markets (crypto, etc.) - people literally look for hidden knowledge about the future on price charts (technical analysis) and seriously invent all sorts of waves, candles and other nonsense.

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July 27, 2024, 07:57:21 PM
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I am always amazed when I see stories of people who can't stop gambling, losing regularly but still hoping to win. Where do they get so much money? Because before they reach their intended goal of winning a large sum, they spend the same amount. And just as they play, despite the lost amounts, they must have a source from which they must draw money for the games. It turns into a vicious circle when, only after winning, such people go to play again and lose.

The question arises: What's the point?

When people are desperate, they don't sit down to count the money they've already spent gambling. They're determined to make a lot of money, so they keep playing until they win or go bankrupt. In the case of people who buy lottery tickets, at least when they manage to hit the jackpot they get back all the money they spent and still make high profits. The same goes for people who play games of chance that depend on luck, like Plinko and Gates of Olympus.

When they hit a big multiplier, they can get back everything they lost. But in the case of people who bet on sports, unfortunately, if the person is betting with the intention of making a profit, they'll be wasting time and money. Here in my country, for example, most people who bet on sports, for example, choose multibet bets with odds above 300x, so they end up putting $1 on each multibet bet. This way, even if they lose 100 times, they would only lose $100

but if they get it right, they would be left with $300 or more. When I asked them why they do this, their answer was that they don't feel pain when they lose $1 and it's worth it when they get it right. But for those people who can't even get some games right and keep betting a lot of money, they won't make a profit and will go bankrupt. The ideal is to play for fun and with money that you can afford to lose.

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A lot of people have this mindset, and it has favoured few people, there are people that showed resilience for a couple of years using less than a dollar to chase millions and it worked out for them..it's all based on luck though because some have been doing the same thing too for years and still haven't won anything.. Having this mindset can be helpful but the best approach to gambling is reducing your expectations and just playing for fun

Basically everyone has the same chance in gambling, meaning they have the same chance to be able to win a very large amount, but not everyone can be that lucky, and maybe as you said that very few of them actually managed to achieve that big win, which is probably because everyone has a different level of luck.

But I will say that actually winning is not something to be too proud of, because the win is still temporary, in the sense that I believe that when someone manages to achieve a big win like that then it is unlikely for them to stop gambling completely, and it has been proven that in some cases gamblers who have managed to achieve a big win after that they are even crazier in gambling because they hope to get the same win as before which is actually a process where you return your previous winnings to the casino through a losing scenario, meaning that the real big win is when after that you stop completely and enjoy all the amount of the win.

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I am always amazed when I see stories of people who can't stop gambling, losing regularly but still hoping to win. Where do they get so much money?
Loans, these people are in major debts and their disappearances speak a lot about the circumstances they are living in. Clever gamblers dont spend too much, they spend just the amount to be able to play every few days but dont overdo it. But some addicted people keep increasing their wagers and eventually turn bankrupt.

If you would know them personally, their families would have already tried getting their habits rectified.

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This is us gamblers, we gamble to hit it, our goal.

I think most of us are really aiming for a huge win that we don't have to work for a long period of time. Like when we are lucky and we hit the jackpot, so we will be constantly gambling, will not mind our losses as eventually that time will come. However, that doesn't mean that we will stop after the win as we are gamblers and we know we enjoy what we are doing. We don't talk about our chance here as the house really have the big chance of winning, our chance comes when we are lucky and everyday we are trying our luck to win big.

At the end of the day, as long as we gamble according to limit, everything should be fine.

Yeah, most gamblers really look for that big hit and that's what our goals are. So regardless of how much we bet, be in max bet or just $0.1 we always think that at the end of the day, we are going to win and our chances are very high.

That's usually our mindset, be positive and we hope that lucky luck will be on our side. We then continue to play let's say slot games, worst kind of odds but still, maybe we will be lucky that we will hit the jackpot and play all our capital in just one sitting, and then deposit for more if we lose that initial capital.

I think this approach is less addictive than betting significant amounts to win big. You can enjoy betting less than $1 and aiming to win $1,000 or more because if your time comes and you get lucky, hitting a huge amount will give you full satisfaction in gambling. But of course, as gamblers, our journey doesn’t end there—we still go back and start our routine again. Winning big might take more time, but as long as we aren’t cutting a big percentage from our income, gambling will surely remain exciting for us.

 
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Some gamblers are already aware of what you are saying, while others they are just gambling for fun or in hope to hit the big prize. In both cases, gambling is only a fun activity to try your luck, most or players won’t win anything, some id them are losing so much, few gamblers only are lucky to win big and in their first rounds or bets only.
Slots, table games, tournaments and other gambling games are different than just mathematical matters, people doesn’t care that much about what’s behind the game as much as having fun while doing it, hoping to win something, or even addicted to it. So, explaining to gamblers that winning something or hitting a jackpot won’t really change their minds about it.

There are so many mentalities than just ‘play till you hit it’ and all of them end up to the same result, algorithms and casino games. Gamblers will often listen to themselves rather than logic.

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A lot of people have this mindset, and it has favoured few people, there are people that showed resilience for a couple of years using less than a dollar to chase millions and it worked out for them..it's all based on luck though because some have been doing the same thing too for years and still haven't won anything.. Having this mindset can be helpful but the best approach to gambling is reducing your expectations and just playing for fun
Gambling is just for playing for fun and not for making money reason so people should realizes that they must not have that mindset. Otherwise, they will regret because of losing their money in gambling and they will difficult to win some money.
They must have a mindset that they can use their free time to playing gambling with some money but not for excessively because that will hurt them if they see the amount of money that they will lose in gambling. They can win in gambling but they must know their limit so they will not chase more winning because they will not guarantee to have more luck in the next rounds.
If they can think wise about what will happen with them especially if they lose their money in gambling, they should not risks too much money. They must not playing gambling for too long until they can hit the big winning because they can use too much money while they will not realizes if they lose that money.

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I am always amazed when I see stories of people who can't stop gambling, losing regularly but still hoping to win. Where do they get so much money?
Loans, these people are in major debts and their disappearances speak a lot about the circumstances they are living in. Clever gamblers dont spend too much, they spend just the amount to be able to play every few days but dont overdo it. But some addicted people keep increasing their wagers and eventually turn bankrupt.

If you would know them personally, their families would have already tried getting their habits rectified.
If it's true that the money was borrowed, it's out of control and the addiction is out of control. I know the nature of such people and how they destroy themselves, being invisible is the last resort for them to cover their shame and regret.

Even families find it difficult to heal such people.

It is a game of guilt and greed. The person feels guilty of their actions and the method to correct the loss is right in front of them - the casino itself! However this is just how the casino is built, lose money there and the same machine can make the money back - however the second phrase is rarely going to happen.
I call it a vicious cycle of losing-curiosity, winning-addiction and greed.

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September 02, 2024, 03:42:28 PM
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A lot of people have this mindset, and it has favoured few people, there are people that showed resilience for a couple of years using less than a dollar to chase millions and it worked out for them..it's all based on luck though because some have been doing the same thing too for years and still haven't won anything.. Having this mindset can be helpful but the best approach to gambling is reducing your expectations and just playing for fun
Gambling is just for playing for fun and not for making money reason so people should realizes that they must not have that mindset. Otherwise, they will regret because of losing their money in gambling and they will difficult to win some money.
They must have a mindset that they can use their free time to playing gambling with some money but not for excessively because that will hurt them if they see the amount of money that they will lose in gambling. They can win in gambling but they must know their limit so they will not chase more winning because they will not guarantee to have more luck in the next rounds.
If they can think wise about what will happen with them especially if they lose their money in gambling, they should not risks too much money. They must not playing gambling for too long until they can hit the big winning because they can use too much money while they will not realizes if they lose that money.
Easy to say but it would really be that hard for you to do such thing specially when you are already that making having some longer sessions into your gambling activity on which
those kind of limits that you had set out earlier would eventually changed specially if it does involves already some emotions along the way. On the moment that you are already losing money
then those things will really be changing up along the way and this is something that you should really be trying out to control because on the moment that you do lose that control then you will
really be that become impulsive and later on you would will be that depositing even more just because you are already chasing up the loses that you do have and will really be aiming on trying out to achieve
on making up profits. Play till you hit it? It do adds up on the thrill but make it sure that once you do hit up that threshold then it will really be that recommended  that you should stop.

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September 02, 2024, 03:55:59 PM
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I think this approach is less addictive than betting significant amounts to win big. You can enjoy betting less than $1 and aiming to win $1,000 or more because if your time comes and you get lucky, hitting a huge amount will give you full satisfaction in gambling. But of course, as gamblers, our journey doesn’t end there—we still go back and start our routine again. Winning big might take more time, but as long as we aren’t cutting a big percentage from our income, gambling will surely remain exciting for us.
I think it's the same, whether we bet with a large or small amount each round, it's still the same if they keep playing again when the initial capital is lost, it's the same. It's just that maybe the difference is the time spent is longer compared to betting with a large amount.

Rich people will play with large amounts, while poor people will play with the smallest amount possible, it's according to their abilities. But if you say it's not too addictive, I don't agree with that. Because no matter how much money they spend or how much the nominal amount is each round if it's excessive it's still addictive.

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September 02, 2024, 04:58:08 PM
Last edit: September 02, 2024, 05:08:54 PM by Sandra_hakeem
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The behavior you described above sounds like a sign of a gambling disorder, especially if it affects their well-being. I have seen someone gamble all their money to quit a game before, but I've never heard of someone who gambles mindlessly just because they believe they can hit the jackpot. Maybe if the cost to do that is small, then I can see that, certainly not with a $10 per bet though.
The worse thing to get yourself entangled with is wagering without limits... Be it out of anger, frustration or eagerness to win big. The moment you start feeling like every opportunity that comes your way is a chance to win, that's where your failure begins..

What sort of motivations do we get by screenshots of already wagered slips?.. have y'all ever thought for one second -- that the casinos might be trying to lure you on a paid slip ads?..

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If it's true that the money was borrowed, it's out of control and the addiction is out of control. I know the nature of such people and how they destroy themselves, being invisible is the last resort for them to cover their shame and regret.
I know of one degenerate gambler that would stake his cellphone for a single game, hoping to payback in 3days to avoid getting his assets seized permanently... But eachtime, he's not always able to meet up with it..
He'll just show up after 2 weeks and act like he's never been to our stall, or atleast like he never lost anything to us.

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September 02, 2024, 05:07:24 PM
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The behavior you described above sounds like a sign of a gambling disorder, especially if it affects their well-being. I have seen someone gamble all their money to quit a game before, but I've never heard of someone who gambles mindlessly just because they believe they can hit the jackpot. Maybe if the cost to do that is small, then I can see that, certainly not with a $10 per bet though.
The worse thing to get yourself entangled with is wagering without limits... Be it out of anger, frustration or eagerness to win big. The moment you start feeling like every opportunity that comes your way is a chance to win, that's where your failure begins..

What sort of motivations do we get by screenshots of already wagered slips?.. have y'all ever thought for one second -- that the casinos might be trying to lure you on a paid slip ads?..

 A person will traverse the path of being addict if he will continuously bet for the main purpose of hitting it big. This person will always find a way how to bet even if he doesn't have enough money on his pocket. Do remember, this kind of game is based on luck, and so hitting it big will be slippery and you have no idea if it will really come. So don't chase for that winning moment because you may end up screwing your hard-earned money as well as savings.

Some gamblers are already aware of what you are saying, while others they are just gambling for fun or in hope to hit the big prize. In both cases, gambling is only a fun activity to try your luck, most or players won’t win anything, some id them are losing so much, few gamblers only are lucky to win big and in their first rounds or bets only.
Slots, table games, tournaments and other gambling games are different than just mathematical matters, people doesn’t care that much about what’s behind the game as much as having fun while doing it, hoping to win something, or even addicted to it. So, explaining to gamblers that winning something or hitting a jackpot won’t really change their minds about it.

There are so many mentalities than just ‘play till you hit it’ and all of them end up to the same result, algorithms and casino games. Gamblers will often listen to themselves rather than logic.

Well, gamblers will have their own time to contemplate on what they are doing with their lives. If gambling will ruin their life, they will for sure learn a thing or two upon suffering some drawbacks of their gambling life such as losing a loved one or losing a very important asset.

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September 02, 2024, 05:13:36 PM
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I personally bet at high odds that are almost impossible to hit. So I think my only hope to win is luck. When you have lots of money in your pocket you will have no money limit to bet. Moreover, there are times when it is better to bet with smaller amounts. Everyone has a constant desire to win big, so it can also explain gambling for fun. No matter how you place bets in gambling, your main objective is to make money.

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I personally bet at high odds that are almost impossible to hit. So I think my only hope to win is luck. When you have lots of money in your pocket you will have no money limit to bet. Moreover, there are times when it is better to bet with smaller amounts. Everyone has a constant desire to win big, so it can also explain gambling for fun. No matter how you place bets in gambling, your main objective is to make money.
Yeah, if one is focused on sports betting, then solely the goal is to make money, but for me personally, I do sometimes play for fun but this is often not with sports betting, but with slot and casino games.
When ever I am playing sports betting, making money is often the goal to be honest, but then, it can still be fun specially when we have to chase after those big wins, this is something I do almost all the time with really small funds, which usually ranges from $0.05 to $1, I usually compile games to build a big odds that sometimes can be up to 1k to 10k to 20k and up to 50k depending on the number of games in the parley and their odds respectively, winning games like this is almost or as good as impossible, but when luck hits, we can happen, and such wins are the ones that usually make headlines.. 😊

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I am always amazed when I see stories of people who can't stop gambling, losing regularly but still hoping to win. Where do they get so much money? Because before they reach their intended goal of winning a large sum, they spend the same amount. And just as they play, despite the lost amounts, they must have a source from which they must draw money for the games. It turns into a vicious circle when, only after winning, such people go to play again and lose.

The question arises: What's the point?

If I were to play until I hit the jackpot I'd either run out of money, or if I chose to bet a very very small amount, I'd fall asleep pushing that stupid button.
Personally, I don't even like slots so it would be a pain to go through all these hours of playing just to see that jackpot win. I get that people in casinos want others to see them win and crave attention that a jackpot brings to the floor, but playing alone in your room for hours is just painful and stupid.
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