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July 17, 2024, 07:44:42 AM
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We have also made it clear in this thread that we currently do not request for kyc. If that is going to change in future, we will make sure every user is informed and given enough time to make adjustment before the implementation can take place.
With all due respect, we have heard and seen this so many times that it's not worth it to count. This statement of yours could be interpreted as, we won't ask you for KYC when you deposit or lose, but if you win a significant sum, we will try to use our terms against you. You are not a licensed casino, so there is no regulator that requires that you do KYC and AML checks. Your terms also don't mention any restricted countries and territories. What possible reason could you have to (perhaps) require KYC? Please don't say bonus abuse.

In the coming days, we are going to make amendment to our Terms regarding the KYC. As much as we are operating from jurisdiction that does not require mandatory KYC, we still need to act responsibly by not letting our platform be used for money laundering in any form and in any manner. Therefore, if your objective is to play games, win, and take your proceeds, you are more than welcome to play at Betflexi.com and be rest assured there'll be no KYC request.
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July 17, 2024, 03:06:35 PM
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Yes, that is what must be considered because after all the user's gaming experience is the most important thing to prioritize. Positive suggestions and input need to be considered so that the improvements made can make your casino compete with many other casinos, of course this can be done gradually over time.  But first, please accept my greeting to you, welcome.
Customers wants to play the game. They are there for the experience. When we say experience, it is not only limited to playing a game actually but this covers all of the features and services that can be found inside the platform. So it is important that the team will polished all of them even if they can only do it slowly but as long as it is surely. That is better, we can understand and wait than if they will try to rush things and still ends up with a buggy platform because we will still complain about it.

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so that the improvements made can make your casino compete with many other casinos
Yeah. By the time they create the casino, it is not something that we can say they are now in the competition because there's already lots of great casinos existing, unless only if their features are already pack with a punch but it is less-likely for a beginner.
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July 17, 2024, 05:11:38 PM
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We have also made it clear in this thread that we currently do not request for kyc. If that is going to change in future, we will make sure every user is informed and given enough time to make adjustment before the implementation can take place.
With all due respect, we have heard and seen this so many times that it's not worth it to count. This statement of yours could be interpreted as, we won't ask you for KYC when you deposit or lose, but if you win a significant sum, we will try to use our terms against you. You are not a licensed casino, so there is no regulator that requires that you do KYC and AML checks. Your terms also don't mention any restricted countries and territories. What possible reason could you have to (perhaps) require KYC? Please don't say bonus abuse.

In the coming days, we are going to make amendment to our Terms regarding the KYC. As much as we are operating from jurisdiction that does not require mandatory KYC, we still need to act responsibly by not letting our platform be used for money laundering in any form and in any manner. Therefore, if your objective is to play games, win, and take your proceeds, you are more than welcome to play at Betflexi.com and be rest assured there'll be no KYC request.

It is easier said to convince the community than to allow huge amount of money leave the casino without you demanding for KYC when in the sense it is a rewards for winning games on platform. It is already captured in your terms of service that identity check would be required to access withdrawals and deposits which I believe if the amount of money is questionable or too big.  I understand that your casino is a new one and would want to gain more traffic and customers but deceiving or tricking people into depositing and after that requesting for identity check makes no sense. I will advise you stand by your words of no KYC as you have stated here.

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July 17, 2024, 07:07:20 PM
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Welcome to bitcointalk forum Betflexi.
I saw on your website that biggest win is 12,942.00 credits, but why do you need to write value in that unit and not in dollar or tether stablecoin?
If you have 1 million USDT Mega Prize Raffle on home page this is not showing as 1 million credits.

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July 17, 2024, 11:07:33 PM
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Really? Where did you find this information? It is something too good to be true IMO and I wonder, is there any other terms behind this deposit bonus?

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I get the doubt, this is the lowest wager requirement for deposit bonus I've ever seen lol so was so surprised. TBH, I feel like I should read the whole fine print to know if there are any conflicting clauses which I haven't yet plus there could be extra information upon logging in. 🤔 Well, I would recommend this to anyone planning on jumping the gun.

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July 18, 2024, 12:18:41 AM
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A by all 100% deposit bonus with a 2x wagering requirement and no kyc! Does anyone else find this: too good to be true?
OP, do you realize that with such requirements, your casino will be heavily abused? How are you going to stop cheaters from creating multiple accounts in ordre to abuse the deposit bonus?
If you are offering this to attract new users, then am afraid to tell you: this is not the best way to do it.

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July 18, 2024, 04:25:34 AM
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A by all 100% deposit bonus with a 2x wagering requirement and no kyc! Does anyone else find this: too good to be true?
OP, do you realize that with such requirements, your casino will be heavily abused? How are you going to stop cheaters from creating multiple accounts in ordre to abuse the deposit bonus?
If you are offering this to attract new users, then am afraid to tell you: this is not the best way to do it.

I’m also interested to know about this deposit bonus. Regarding the question about KYC, I explored the site and was trying to find their license information, but it seems there’s no information provided. So, it’s presumed that they are an unlicensed casino, and an unlicensed casino does not have the right to implement a KYC requirement, correct me if I’m wrong.

If you head over to the site, https://betflexi.com/, you can only see information such as “provably fair,” “privacy policy,” “terms of use,” and “self-assessment guide.”


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July 18, 2024, 05:13:22 AM
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We have also made it clear in this thread that we currently do not request for kyc. If that is going to change in future, we will make sure every user is informed and given enough time to make adjustment before the implementation can take place.
With all due respect, we have heard and seen this so many times that it's not worth it to count. This statement of yours could be interpreted as, we won't ask you for KYC when you deposit or lose, but if you win a significant sum, we will try to use our terms against you. You are not a licensed casino, so there is no regulator that requires that you do KYC and AML checks. Your terms also don't mention any restricted countries and territories. What possible reason could you have to (perhaps) require KYC? Please don't say bonus abuse.

In the coming days, we are going to make amendment to our Terms regarding the KYC. As much as we are operating from jurisdiction that does not require mandatory KYC, we still need to act responsibly by not letting our platform be used for money laundering in any form and in any manner. Therefore, if your objective is to play games, win, and take your proceeds, you are more than welcome to play at Betflexi.com and be rest assured there'll be no KYC request.

It is easier said to convince the community than to allow huge amount of money leave the casino without you demanding for KYC when in the sense it is a rewards for winning games on platform. It is already captured in your terms of service that identity check would be required to access withdrawals and deposits which I believe if the amount of money is questionable or too big.  I understand that your casino is a new one and would want to gain more traffic and customers but deceiving or tricking people into depositing and after that requesting for identity check makes no sense. I will advise you stand by your words of no KYC as you have stated here.

Thank you for your contribution to this thread. We currently do not request for KYC and that is the fact. We may only engage in additional verification is the transaction goes to the threshold the may be suspected to be money laundering. However, we are working on other protections against money laundering and when that comes into effect in the coming days, we many change the tone of the T&C even though there is nowhere KYC is currently mentioned on the terms.

Welcome to bitcointalk forum Betflexi.
I saw on your website that biggest win is 12,942.00 credits, but why do you need to write value in that unit and not in dollar or tether stablecoin?
If you have 1 million USDT Mega Prize Raffle on home page this is not showing as 1 million credits.

1 credit is equals to 1 USD. And I believe that is quite understandable since money many casinos uses the same for playing games. Maybe we may consider chnaging the default currency to USD or USDT in the coming days but just understand the a credit is currently same as USD. Thank you.

Really? Where did you find this information? It is something too good to be true IMO and I wonder, is there any other terms behind this deposit bonus?

In their terms of service!

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The 100% bonus on the first deposit must be wagered two times before it becomes eligible for withdrawal.

I get the doubt, this is the lowest wager requirement for deposit bonus I've ever seen lol so was so surprised. TBH, I feel like I should read the whole fine print to know if there are any conflicting clauses which I haven't yet plus there could be extra information upon logging in. 🤔 Well, I would recommend this to anyone planning on jumping the gun.

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July 18, 2024, 05:25:38 AM
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A by all 100% deposit bonus with a 2x wagering requirement and no kyc! Does anyone else find this: too good to be true?
OP, do you realize that with such requirements, your casino will be heavily abused? How are you going to stop cheaters from creating multiple accounts in ordre to abuse the deposit bonus?
If you are offering this to attract new users, then am afraid to tell you: this is not the best way to do it.

Thanks for your contribution and for raising this point. However, I want to assure you that this is a system we understand very well and the issue of bonus abuse is the least of problem here. We have a system in place that takes care of all that. Again, there is nothing too good to be true in 2x wagering requirement for 100% welcome bonus. This is a standard practice for most casinos, some just make things extremely difficult to their users in order to prevent them at all costs from winning. We just want to make things easy for our users and allow them enjoy the benefits of gaming with a Modern Crypto Casino Platform. Sign up now at https://betflexi.com and experience the benefits.
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July 18, 2024, 06:47:32 AM
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However, we are working on other protections against money laundering and when that comes into effect in the coming days, we many change the tone of the T&C even though there is nowhere KYC is currently mentioned on the terms.
KYC and identity verification is mentioned in your terms. In point 19.3 of your Terms of Use you state that you have the right to conduct identity verification for withdrawal requests. That includes requesting from the player to upload a photo of their ID and a proof of wallet ownership.

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We reserve the right to conduct additional verification procedures for any withdrawal request, which may include providing identification documents and proof of ownership of the wallet.

Point 19.4 mentions that deposit and withdrawal limits may depend on the verification level of a player's account. In other words, verified accounts have higher limits than non verified accounts.

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We may impose limits on the amount of funds you can deposit or withdraw within a certain period. These limits will be clearly communicated on your account dashboard and may vary based on your account status and verification level.

Source: https://betflexi.com/pages/terms-of-use

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July 18, 2024, 07:14:22 AM
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We have also made it clear in this thread that we currently do not request for kyc. If that is going to change in future, we will make sure every user is informed and given enough time to make adjustment before the implementation can take place.
With all due respect, we have heard and seen this so many times that it's not worth it to count. This statement of yours could be interpreted as, we won't ask you for KYC when you deposit or lose, but if you win a significant sum, we will try to use our terms against you. You are not a licensed casino, so there is no regulator that requires that you do KYC and AML checks. Your terms also don't mention any restricted countries and territories. What possible reason could you have to (perhaps) require KYC? Please don't say bonus abuse.

In the coming days, we are going to make amendment to our Terms regarding the KYC. As much as we are operating from jurisdiction that does not require mandatory KYC, we still need to act responsibly by not letting our platform be used for money laundering in any form and in any manner. Therefore, if your objective is to play games, win, and take your proceeds, you are more than welcome to play at Betflexi.com and be rest assured there'll be no KYC request.

It is easier said to convince the community than to allow huge amount of money leave the casino without you demanding for KYC when in the sense it is a rewards for winning games on platform. It is already captured in your terms of service that identity check would be required to access withdrawals and deposits which I believe if the amount of money is questionable or too big.  I understand that your casino is a new one and would want to gain more traffic and customers but deceiving or tricking people into depositing and after that requesting for identity check makes no sense. I will advise you stand by your words of no KYC as you have stated here.

Thank you for your contribution to this thread. We currently do not request for KYC and that is the fact. We may only engage in additional verification is the transaction goes to the threshold the may be suspected to be money laundering. However, we are working on other protections against money laundering and when that comes into effect in the coming days, we many change the tone of the T&C even though there is nowhere KYC is currently mentioned on the terms.

It is nice you are very much active here and I must commend you for that. As you can see, I do not see any where in your website where you clearly stated or mentioned about your licence which means you are likely operating illegally from wherever you are currently located. So for that reason, you are not supposed to mention about you requesting for Identity check pending when you present your licence as a fully authorised casino operating within your jurisdiction. You requesting for a identity verification check is as good as you not paying gamblers their money and telling them that their transactions are suspicious.
How do you suspect a money laundering when you too are not licenced to operate if I am not mistaken. Clear yourself first before requesting for KYC or identity check. 

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July 18, 2024, 07:29:03 AM
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As you can see, I do not see any where in your website where you clearly stated or mentioned about your licence which means you are likely operating illegally from wherever you are currently located.
If you go to their Terms of Use, you will see a claim that there are operated by Palness Media BV. This should probably be Palness Media B.V. However, enter that name into a search engine and you get nothing related to gambling or casinos. They have also posted their registration number (A227489 - CCA CR-NG). Searching on Google for that also doesn't render and useful information.

Further down in their TOS you can read that the terms are construed according to Costa Rican law. So the owner company should be regulated by a Costa Rican authority.

@Betflexi
Is there any public record of your connection to Palness Media BV.?

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As promised, slight changes has been made in our Terms of use to address some of your needs and concerns. Feel free to register and enjoy our games. In the next coming days we will be rolling out our plan for promotions and additional peck. Our Affiliate program is one of the most beneficial aspect of our platform. It gives you the opportunity to create lifetime income just by promoting our links once.
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July 18, 2024, 02:45:17 PM
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As promised, slight changes has been made in our Terms of use to address some of your needs and concerns. Feel free to register and enjoy our games. In the next coming days we will be rolling out our plan for promotions and additional peck. Our Affiliate program is one of the most beneficial aspect of our platform. It gives you the opportunity to create lifetime income just by promoting our links once.
You have done well by updating your terms of service which is commendable but the curiousity still makes me wonder if you are really for this business or what. If no Lt I believe you would have taken enough time to work on your casino properly before launching otherwise you would meet alot of criticism but however, the scrutiny here is for your own good because it would help you discover some lapses which the community would spell our doe you here for you to make amends or correct with immediate effect.

Do not see our comments and post here the other way round but in the normal, you would know it is for the good of your casino so that you don't meet a brick wall tomorrow while promoting your services here.
There have been cases were projects campaigns/projects got banned here for cases which of they had called for a review, it would have been picked out for them to effect corrections immediately but it was not like that and the gut it hot from the community but you just registered and getting such a review so quickly to make amends. I will advise you do take the input and opinion seriously.

Lastly, you have a pending question above before this comment to answer and It is about your licence and relationship or connection with Palness Media BV.?

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July 18, 2024, 11:05:46 PM
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Welcome to the forum Betflexi.com.

I have been trying to look around the terms of service to see if my Country is restricted from using your platform but I see nothing. What is the list of countries that is restricted from using your platform?

Countries like the United States almost appear in every casino's ban list probably due to their very strict measures. I hope you get into a legal battle in the future due to this.

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July 18, 2024, 11:27:20 PM
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Thank you for your willingness to recommend our platform to anyone who would like to try us out, and we promised to always deliver on time. You too can quickly jump on it and give us a try. It takes less than a minute to create an account and make your first deposit. There's 100% bonus up to $50,000 for you.

Um seems there was a misunderstanding. I wasn't necessarily recommending the platform esp when I never tried playing yet. I was merely suggesting to read the tos for the interested folks.

Truth be told, I don't think I'm fan of the used script for the games as stated by panju. Though, I'll be sure to take a look at this again once you have onboarded other known game providers.

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July 19, 2024, 06:50:24 AM
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As promised, slight changes has been made in our Terms of use to address some of your needs and concerns. Feel free to register and enjoy our games. In the next coming days we will be rolling out our plan for promotions and additional peck. Our Affiliate program is one of the most beneficial aspect of our platform. It gives you the opportunity to create lifetime income just by promoting our links once.
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Lastly, you have a pending question above before this comment to answer and It is about your licence and relationship or connection with Palness Media BV.?


We are working with Costa Rican business registration and soon we will may consider getting a Curacao iGaming license. Palness Media owns Betflexi.com. Thank you for your comment and our pledge is to do all we can to ensure the best possible customer satisfaction to all our users

Welcome to the forum Betflexi.com.

I have been trying to look around the terms of service to see if my Country is restricted from using your platform but I see nothing. What is the list of countries that is restricted from using your platform?

Countries like the United States almost appear in every casino's ban list probably due to their very strict measures. I hope you get into a legal battle in the future due to this.

Thank you Logfile for the comment and question. Betflexi.com is built for Crypto community and not for countries. We don't promote it in countries, we promote it in crypto communities. So, as long as you have access to Crypto and crypto transaction is allowed in your jurisdiction, you are free to play at Betflexi.com. It is your duty to comply with any restrictions or requirement from your country of residence.
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July 21, 2024, 07:38:15 AM
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This casino was launched on the forum just a little over 24 hours ago and responded very fast to the first replies they got on the thread. I think we should cut them some slack if they are inactive for some hours, this is the weekend and they probably have other channels of communication which they have been using for a long time now and prioritize over this forum.

When they get more used to the forum they can set up a telegram not and request to be notified of each new reply on this thread.

Thank you for the kind words. The first few days were completely overwhelming and eye opening for us. Glad we are gradually getting into the flow and it can only get better. For those of you who haven't joined Betflexi.com, I would encourage you to do that now please. There is no benefits in being on the fence, and we have some planned benefits for our early members, so consider your early membership as an investment.

Register now at https://betflexi.com and fund your account to become a full member.

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15. Changes to the Terms
We reserve the right, at our sole discretion, to modify or replace these Terms at any time. If a revision is material, we will provide at least [30 days'] notice prior to any new terms taking effect. What constitutes a material change will be determined at our sole discretion. By continuing to access or use our Services after any revisions become effective, you agree to be bound by the revised Terms. If you do not agree to the new terms, please stop using the Services.


I have a question regarding this. Will changes which are not material also be updated on the terms and will user get notice of the change as at when they are updated?
I believe that users should always be aware of what ToS they are regulated by, so any change should be reported and accepted by them, while "material" changes get the 30 day notice.

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A by all 100% deposit bonus with a 2x wagering requirement and no kyc! Does anyone else find this: too good to be true?
OP, do you realize that with such requirements, your casino will be heavily abused? How are you going to stop cheaters from creating multiple accounts in ordre to abuse the deposit bonus?
If you are offering this to attract new users, then am afraid to tell you: this is not the best way to do it.

A hundred percent too good to be true because the standard wagering requirement for 100% deposit in most casino is between 30-50x
Suprisingly the one from the casino said that 2x is the standard practice by most casinos, I have no idea in which gambling industry he is coming from but I have never seen that 2x wagering requirement is a standard term for 100% deposit bonus.
I'm afraid that there is other hidden requirement behind this 2x wagering requirement, most other casinos count slots as the only game with 100% contribution while other games contribute less percentage.
How about this one in this casino, do they count all wager in any game 100% toward wagering requirement?

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