[Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs TJ Doheny 122lb Title fight-September

[Kemarit]

@bbc.reporter - I do agree that they should fight, Vargas as the regular champion and then Figueroa the interim belt. It's about that because Vargas has held the belt hostage for so long if I'm not mistaken. And for me he should have been stripped already since he attempted to fight and lost to O'Shaquie Foster for the Jr. Featherweight and then a draw with Nick Ball.

So it's good that the WBC mandated that fight to settle once and for all who is their champion. And then after this, maybe the winner will face Inoue next if Inoue decided to go up in weight next year and started with a banger fight either Vargas and Figueroa, who are very tall for Inoue and it might give him a good challenge.

[TravelMug]

@TravelMug. However, these champions in the featherweight division cannot offer anything for Naoya Inoue. They cannot offer more money than the money he is earning in Japan and these champions are not big names with much fans hehehee.

In any case, the WBC has ordered their champion and interim champion to fight. Let us wish that this is a victory for Figueroa with knockout!

Well at this point in his career, it's the question whether Inoue wants more money or go for the glory of winning all belts as and what we call, cementing his legacy to be the best Japanese fighter in this era or even the best boxer pound for pound.

And if ever the fight pushes between Rey Vargas and Brandon Figueroa, yeah, I think Brandon might win that slugfest over Vargas. Vargas is also known to be a volume puncher however, his chin is very suspected. And even if he has beaten Magsayo, I think Mark soften the chin of Vargas already and if Brandon can hit them cleanly, he might score a knockout or knockdown.

[stadus]

@TravelMug. However, these champions in the featherweight division cannot offer anything for Naoya Inoue. They cannot offer more money than the money he is earning in Japan and these champions are not big names with much fans hehehee.

In any case, the WBC has ordered their champion and interim champion to fight. Let us wish that this is a victory for Figueroa with knockout!

Well at this point in his career, it's the question whether Inoue wants more money or go for the glory of winning all belts as and what we call, cementing his legacy to be the best Japanese fighter in this era or even the best boxer pound for pound.

He is still young, and there's still a lot of time for him to prove what he can achieve. He should not limit his success to the current division he is reigning because many believe that once he moves up one more division, he'll still be able to dominate. I don't know what Inoue's plan is, but if he thinks he can't push any further, then it's much better if he just retires.

And if ever the fight pushes between Rey Vargas and Brandon Figueroa, yeah, I think Brandon might win that slugfest over Vargas. Vargas is also known to be a volume puncher however, his chin is very suspected. And even if he has beaten Magsayo, I think Mark soften the chin of Vargas already and if Brandon can hit them cleanly, he might score a knockout or knockdown.

Same thoughts here. In terms of skills, I think Figueroa has a slight advantage and I think the fight are not going to last to the judges scorecards, it will be a close one but I find Vargas being a good target since his defense aren't that great.

[Maslate]

Same thoughts here. In terms of skills, I think Figueroa has a slight advantage and I think the fight are not going to last to the judges scorecards, it will be a close one but I find Vargas being a good target since his defense aren't that great.

Figueroa is the younger fighter, but Vargas could use his experience against a young WBC interim champion. This will be exciting to watch if it happens, as I am already missing some action in the featherweight division. In terms of KO percentage, Vargas is at 61% while Figueroa is at 76%, so it's really possible that Figueroa could knock out Vargas if he finds a good opening.

Check the comparison record below
https://box.live/fights/vargas-vs-figueroa/

[Kemarit]

Same thoughts here. In terms of skills, I think Figueroa has a slight advantage and I think the fight are not going to last to the judges scorecards, it will be a close one but I find Vargas being a good target since his defense aren't that great.

Figueroa is the younger fighter, but Vargas could use his experience against a young WBC interim champion. This will be exciting to watch if it happens, as I am already missing some action in the featherweight division. In terms of KO percentage, Vargas is at 61% while Figueroa is at 76%, so it's really possible that Figueroa could knock out Vargas if he finds a good opening.

Check the comparison record below
https://box.live/fights/vargas-vs-figueroa/

Yeah, Brandon is young and he might be as tall as Vargas, but I think he has more power though and he can absorb punches as he has faces crazy heavy puncher like Magsayo, Nery and Fulton and recently knockout former champion in Jessie Magdaleno.

So both can be punchers, but I will also agree that Brandon is a good pick if this fight materializes in the future.

But we will have to look at Inoue's performance against Doheny here, but for sure he had already the champions in his mind in the featherweight division like this two tall boxers.

[stadus]

But we will have to look at Inoue's performance against Doheny here, but for sure he had already the champions in his mind in the featherweight division like this two tall boxers.

I wouldn't expect an upset here. I'm sure this will be the same as his previous fights, with the fight ending in a KO. Inoue chose to fight a boxer who isn't even a mandatory opponent, so Doheny's ranking is lower, which speaks to his quality as a boxer. Inoue will win this, period.

What I'm expecting after that fight is that Inoue will announce that he'll be moving up and will try his campaign in the featherweight division. He could go fight a champion right away, just like what he did when he left the bantamweight division to move up.

[bbc.reporter]

@TravelMug. However, these champions in the featherweight division cannot offer anything for Naoya Inoue. They cannot offer more money than the money he is earning in Japan and these champions are not big names with much fans hehehee.

In any case, the WBC has ordered their champion and interim champion to fight. Let us wish that this is a victory for Figueroa with knockout!

Well at this point in his career, it's the question whether Inoue wants more money or go for the glory of winning all belts as and what we call, cementing his legacy to be the best Japanese fighter in this era or even the best boxer pound for pound.

And if ever the fight pushes between Rey Vargas and Brandon Figueroa, yeah, I think Brandon might win that slugfest over Vargas. Vargas is also known to be a volume puncher however, his chin is very suspected. And even if he has beaten Magsayo, I think Mark soften the chin of Vargas already and if Brandon can hit them cleanly, he might score a knockout or knockdown.

I reckon Inoue at present only wants money. This is why he is only agreeing to fights in Japan because his purse will be bigger. This is also because the other fighters cannot offer anything for him in Las Vegas, not more money and not more fans to watch the fight. Inoue might be thinking he is taking more risk than his opponent if he is the loser.

Also yes, I wish this will be a knockout for Brandon Figueroa and he will mention Naoya Inoue's name after the victory hehehehe. This will certainly begin the hype.

[Finestream]

But we will have to look at Inoue's performance against Doheny here, but for sure he had already the champions in his mind in the featherweight division like this two tall boxers.

I wouldn't expect an upset here. I'm sure this will be the same as his previous fights, with the fight ending in a KO. Inoue chose to fight a boxer who isn't even a mandatory opponent, so Doheny's ranking is lower, which speaks to his quality as a boxer. Inoue will win this, period.

What I'm expecting after that fight is that Inoue will announce that he'll be moving up and will try his campaign in the featherweight division. He could go fight a champion right away, just like what he did when he left the bantamweight division to move up.

That has been the rumor, so most likely, that would be his next move, as he can't stay in this division forever. After this, there's no interesting fight to anticipate among the current mandatory fighters. If he doesn't want his fans to be disappointed, moving up for another championship fight should be the best option. Maybe this will be Inoue's last fight this year because it will be held in September. So, I'm expecting that he'll have a fresh start next year in a higher division.

Crawford had already move up to 154 lbs. and had beat the champion, so it's also possible with Inoue.

[Baofeng]

But we will have to look at Inoue's performance against Doheny here, but for sure he had already the champions in his mind in the featherweight division like this two tall boxers.

I wouldn't expect an upset here. I'm sure this will be the same as his previous fights, with the fight ending in a KO. Inoue chose to fight a boxer who isn't even a mandatory opponent, so Doheny's ranking is lower, which speaks to his quality as a boxer. Inoue will win this, period.

What I'm expecting after that fight is that Inoue will announce that he'll be moving up and will try his campaign in the featherweight division. He could go fight a champion right away, just like what he did when he left the bantamweight division to move up.

That has been the rumor, so most likely, that would be his next move, as he can't stay in this division forever. After this, there's no interesting fight to anticipate among the current mandatory fighters. If he doesn't want his fans to be disappointed, moving up for another championship fight should be the best option. Maybe this will be Inoue's last fight this year because it will be held in September. So, I'm expecting that he'll have a fresh start next year in a higher division.

Crawford had already move up to 154 lbs. and had beat the champion, so it's also possible with Inoue.

That was the plan, at least what Bob Arum says, as him and Inoue's Japanese manager, so after this fight, going to move up to the featherweight division and go direct to the champion. But we will only know once Inoue make it official.

Just to bad for Akhmadaliev not to be able to fight Inoue, but if Inoue goes up then he might fight for the belt again.

And good for the former champion Doheny to get a chance to fight the monster, but as we have seen, everyone has fallen to the power of Inoue and as the odds says, Doheny has a slime chance to win.

[stadus]

But we will have to look at Inoue's performance against Doheny here, but for sure he had already the champions in his mind in the featherweight division like this two tall boxers.

I wouldn't expect an upset here. I'm sure this will be the same as his previous fights, with the fight ending in a KO. Inoue chose to fight a boxer who isn't even a mandatory opponent, so Doheny's ranking is lower, which speaks to his quality as a boxer. Inoue will win this, period.

What I'm expecting after that fight is that Inoue will announce that he'll be moving up and will try his campaign in the featherweight division. He could go fight a champion right away, just like what he did when he left the bantamweight division to move up.

That has been the rumor, so most likely, that would be his next move, as he can't stay in this division forever. After this, there's no interesting fight to anticipate among the current mandatory fighters. If he doesn't want his fans to be disappointed, moving up for another championship fight should be the best option. Maybe this will be Inoue's last fight this year because it will be held in September. So, I'm expecting that he'll have a fresh start next year in a higher division.

Crawford had already move up to 154 lbs. and had beat the champion, so it's also possible with Inoue.

That was the plan, at least what Bob Arum says, as him and Inoue's Japanese manager, so after this fight, going to move up to the featherweight division and go direct to the champion. But we will only know once Inoue make it official.

Maybe they are serious about this decision, as the excitement has already declined since Inoue has been winning so easily, there's no real challenge for him as a boxer anymore. A boxer with Inoue's skills needs to be on a bigger stage. Since Bob mentioned that Inoue could be like Pacquiao, or even better, he should be guided along the path Pacquiao took during his active years.

Just to bad for Akhmadaliev not to be able to fight Inoue, but if Inoue goes up then he might fight for the belt again.

Or might be good for him so he'll not suffer another defeat, and might be worse with Inoue.

And good for the former champion Doheny to get a chance to fight the monster, but as we have seen, everyone has fallen to the power of Inoue and as the odds says, Doheny has a slime chance to win.

This fight might send Doheny to retirement if he'll try go toe to toe and aim of knocking out the monster.

[TravelMug]

@TravelMug. However, these champions in the featherweight division cannot offer anything for Naoya Inoue. They cannot offer more money than the money he is earning in Japan and these champions are not big names with much fans hehehee.

In any case, the WBC has ordered their champion and interim champion to fight. Let us wish that this is a victory for Figueroa with knockout!

Well at this point in his career, it's the question whether Inoue wants more money or go for the glory of winning all belts as and what we call, cementing his legacy to be the best Japanese fighter in this era or even the best boxer pound for pound.

And if ever the fight pushes between Rey Vargas and Brandon Figueroa, yeah, I think Brandon might win that slugfest over Vargas. Vargas is also known to be a volume puncher however, his chin is very suspected. And even if he has beaten Magsayo, I think Mark soften the chin of Vargas already and if Brandon can hit them cleanly, he might score a knockout or knockdown.

I reckon Inoue at present only wants money. This is why he is only agreeing to fights in Japan because his purse will be bigger. This is also because the other fighters cannot offer anything for him in Las Vegas, not more money and not more fans to watch the fight. Inoue might be thinking he is taking more risk than his opponent if he is the loser.

Yes, so it's really hard to force him to fight outside of USA. I mean there could be the language barrier itself and then he is making a lot of money fighting in his hometown and if my memory serves me right, he if fighting in a large venue and then he can put fans to the seat and watch his fight and obviously, he is the cash cow as far as Japan's boxing scene.

Also yes, I wish this will be a knockout for Brandon Figueroa and he will mention Naoya Inoue's name after the victory hehehehe. This will certainly begin the hype.

Bradon is a puncher, and he loves to engage, so if that happens between him and Rey Vargas, there will be one body going into the canvass and I reckon it might be Rey Vargas because his chin is very much suspected.

[bbc.reporter]

@TravelMug. A knockout victory against Rey Vargas is very much my wish because this might begin speculations that Figueroa might be the boxer to unify the featherweight division which would also might create an interest for Inoue to fight him.

If Naoya Inoue maintains all of his championships in super bantamweight and if Brandon Figueroa has unified the featherweight division, this will be a unified champion vs. unified champion between big names in boxing. This might be good for a boxing main event in Las Vegas.

[Yaunfitda]

I just check the odds though, and it seems that book makers are not given TJ Doheny to win the fight,

Naoya Inoue - 1.01
TJ Doheny - 12.00

So that a huge disparity and for sure we won't bet on that ML. And I don't think that boxing bettors here are going to like what they are seeing as far as the odds though. By KO by Inoue it is listed at 1.08.

Going to distance is No at 1.06. So again, as boxing gamblers, we might totally skip this fight and just watch how Inoue will win again.

[Dave1]

^^ It's really hard to bet on this fight if we will see such kind of odds, and I do agree that as it TJ is going to lose here. But who can't blame the sports bookies for making Inoue a big favorite entering this fight?

Although he had taste canvass against Neri, still though he put on a show and knock him out for good. And in his last 4-5 fight, all of them are in knockout so the trend might continue here against TJ Doheny and it's going to look ugly for TJ tasting the canvass in maybe 6 rounds or less.

[TravelMug]

@TravelMug. A knockout victory against Rey Vargas is very much my wish because this might begin speculations that Figueroa might be the boxer to unify the featherweight division which would also might create an interest for Inoue to fight him.

If Naoya Inoue maintains all of his championships in super bantamweight and if Brandon Figueroa has unified the featherweight division, this will be a unified champion vs. unified champion between big names in boxing. This might be good for a boxing main event in Las Vegas.

I think Inoue can maintained all his belts at super bantamweight. But I doubt that Brandon can unified the belt in time before Inoue goes up in that weight class. But for sure we all know that if Inoue will go up, he might be facing any on the reigning champions. It's like the privilege he has as the reigning super bantamweight and if I'm not mistaken, some of the champions are already waiting for him to move up to their division.

As for the odds, yes, I do agree, it's not that attractive and appealing to us. And I'm not sure if we should bet here or just be watching in awe on how destructive Inoue is against TJ in this fight.

[bbc.reporter]

I just check the odds though, and it seems that book makers are not given TJ Doheny to win the fight,

Naoya Inoue - 1.01
TJ Doheny - 12.00

So that a huge disparity and for sure we won't bet on that ML. And I don't think that boxing bettors here are going to like what they are seeing as far as the odds though. By KO by Inoue it is listed at 1.08.

Going to distance is No at 1.06. So again, as boxing gamblers, we might totally skip this fight and just watch how Inoue will win again.

Hehehe with these types of odds offered, I reckon we fans should bet on the over-under which is under 4.5 rounds with odds of 1.66. There is also Naoya Inoue and what round which pays very handsomely. Inoue with a knockout victory in round 1 is 8.60! Round 2 is 6.60! Round 3 is 5.60! Round 4 also 5.60! Round 5 6.60.

There is also Inoue with round ranges 1-3 and rounds 4-6 which have odds of 2.43 offered. This will certainly be a victory for Inoue!

[Hirose UK]

^^ It's really hard to bet on this fight if we will see such kind of odds, and I do agree that as it TJ is going to lose here. But who can't blame the sports bookies for making Inoue a big favorite entering this fight?

Although he had taste canvass against Neri, still though he put on a show and knock him out for good. And in his last 4-5 fight, all of them are in knockout so the trend might continue here against TJ Doheny and it's going to look ugly for TJ tasting the canvass in maybe 6 rounds or less.

I actually much more interested in Inoue fight with Akhmadaliev, but in reality Inoue turned it down and chose TJ Doheny as his opponent in September.
For this fight between Inoue vs TJ Doheny, it is clear that Inoue has greater advantage and of course this is very easy fight for Inoue to win.
I think Inoue will be able to finish it like some of his other fights where it is KO victory for Inoue and he still maintains his title and record.

In the betting options we all see that Inoue is really the favorite, but it makes sense considering that TJ Doheny is also not boxer who looks equal to Inoue abilities.
I won't take it, but maybe I will see how this fight goes because Inoue will definitely get KO victory for the umpteenth time.

[Kemarit]

^^ It's really hard to bet on this fight if we will see such kind of odds, and I do agree that as it TJ is going to lose here. But who can't blame the sports bookies for making Inoue a big favorite entering this fight?

Although he had taste canvass against Neri, still though he put on a show and knock him out for good. And in his last 4-5 fight, all of them are in knockout so the trend might continue here against TJ Doheny and it's going to look ugly for TJ tasting the canvass in maybe 6 rounds or less.

I actually much more interested in Inoue fight with Akhmadaliev, but in reality Inoue turned it down and chose TJ Doheny as his opponent in September.
For this fight between Inoue vs TJ Doheny, it is clear that Inoue has greater advantage and of course this is very easy fight for Inoue to win.
I think Inoue will be able to finish it like some of his other fights where it is KO victory for Inoue and he still maintains his title and record.

Yes, it's just to bad that Inoue has passed on Akhmadaliev, perhaps there was no incentive for Inoue as Akhmadaliev doesn't have the belt anymore. On the other hand Doheny, is a boxer that is popular in Japan, as he has been campaigning there and has like 3 or 4 fights already and so Japanese fans are familiar to him.

In the betting options we all see that Inoue is really the favorite, but it makes sense considering that TJ Doheny is also not boxer who looks equal to Inoue abilities.
I won't take it, but maybe I will see how this fight goes because Inoue will definitely get KO victory for the umpteenth time.

There is no doubt that the opening line favors Inoue, and I guess we can't just deny it. He has clean up the division already except for Akhmadaliev. And as reported this could be his last fight in this division and then moving to a weight class that is more challenging to him.

[freedomgo]

There is no doubt that the opening line favors Inoue, and I guess we can't just deny it. He has clean up the division already except for Akhmadaliev. And as reported this could be his last fight in this division and then moving to a weight class that is more challenging to him.

Speaking of betting lines, it's pretty obvious that Inoue is the heavy favorite to win.

https://www.oddstrader.com/boxing/event/naoya-inoue-vs-tj-doheny/odds/

he is -4000 (moneyline ) and the total is only over/under 4.5. That total tells what could possibly happen in this fight, and I think this wouldn't last long since Doheny is a kind of boxer too that wants to go all in, so we might even see a 1 round fight or max of 2.

[Yaunfitda]

I just check the odds though, and it seems that book makers are not given TJ Doheny to win the fight,

Naoya Inoue - 1.01
TJ Doheny - 12.00

So that a huge disparity and for sure we won't bet on that ML. And I don't think that boxing bettors here are going to like what they are seeing as far as the odds though. By KO by Inoue it is listed at 1.08.

Going to distance is No at 1.06. So again, as boxing gamblers, we might totally skip this fight and just watch how Inoue will win again.

Hehehe with these types of odds offered, I reckon we fans should bet on the over-under which is under 4.5 rounds with odds of 1.66. There is also Naoya Inoue and what round which pays very handsomely. Inoue with a knockout victory in round 1 is 8.60! Round 2 is 6.60! Round 3 is 5.60! Round 4 also 5.60! Round 5 6.60.

There is also Inoue with round ranges 1-3 and rounds 4-6 which have odds of 2.43 offered. This will certainly be a victory for Inoue!

Yeah, round ranges could be a big odds, or even exact rounds as well as this is the only line that is worth betting for us. As for the under 4.5 rounds, still good odds at 1.66. However, you will need to throw a lot of money in order to just satisfy yourself of taking a big win. Haven't heard of anyone though, taking about TJ pulling a upset here. And I think the closest that someone thought and could have bet on the underdog against Inoue is Neri, who scored a knockdown and so for sure bettors for him are elated. Unfortunately, no one still has the blue print to bet Inoue and I think it will continue to be like that until he goes up in weight at featherweight and then a new set of opponents for him that is taller and heavier.