Can solitaire be a game of chance?

[Eternad]

Solitaire is a form of card game there's a designated number of cards and this could be played with a strategy game and just beat with a timer but of course seems I've seen few casino offering this game but unlike other like slots people less prefer this game so they didn't promote too much in this game. Also, its a one-player game so all you need is to finish the game before the timer runs out so not quite interesting this could be a casual game only to play not for gamble.

I’m not aware of this version of solitaire with timer because I play only the classic version available on my PC but it surely gives adrenaline rush if you will add timer on a solitaire game.

Actually, Playing solitaire is very time consuming for me because I play it slowly. I think it’s very hard to apply gambling on this kind of game because it’s same with chess that it’s more on skills due to its pattern on solving the game unlike typical casino games that relies on win/lose result on every move that provides quick profit to the casino with their house edge.

[EluguHcman]

Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

Let us consider to understand what gambling is first.
Gambling is an activity or event that engages on competition or daring games with a particular motive where stakes of money or valuables are involved to reward winners. Meanwhile... This could be online or offline gaming event.

Most of the games seems to be more convenient for introvert as specified has become boring that even them as introverts would enjoy the game if it is connected online that they can play with friends probably as a tournament.
So, if two friends can be possible to play the game on a friendly mode in an online connection, then it can as much become a game for gambling with friends or if being considered in the casino games, of course one can play with the robots according to how the game maker has p programed it.

Then literally it becomes a game of luck because you definitely going to bring your best to beat an opponent just as the cheers.

[Findingnemo]

If it's puzzle then I don't think it is the game of chance because it comes under the skill category. And it is too far away from being realistic because it doesn't have enough reason for for a gambling house to make money with such games so unless it is played in non incentivised manner just as we do play for killing our time these games are hard enough even to exist with the evolution era especially in the gaming category.

[Darker45]

I don't compare a game of solitaire with puzzles. Puzzles can be solved or formed to how it should look like. Puzzles have designs that you can achieve. That goal could be reached or not depending on your capacity, but even if you can't make it, it doesn't mean that it can't be solved or formed properly.

This isn't how solitaire games are like. A game of solitaire could be won or lost. It is purely out of luck that you win. It doesn't involve skills. Although focus makes you avoid errors, there are card arrangements that simply can't be won.

[stompix]

However, imagine if FreeCell became a gambling game like poker and hosted international tournaments. I know this is unrealistic, but still. How do you think. Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

Unlike the first version of Solitaire Free cell game are almost all winnable so you will have a games that is always winnable as gamble? That doesn't sound like much competition. Second, if you go with Solitaire and team play or competitions, how would you deal if both teams roll up an unwinnable deck or worse of all just one does?

It's too much of a chance game for competition and too predictable for gambling and as you can see, that's why we don't have them.

[tread93]

I like to play not only gambling, but also quite calm, so to speak, games. For example, I love playing solitaire. In Microsoft Windows there is a solitaire game called Klondike, as well as FreeCell. The last game, in my opinion, is made very well and the solitaire layouts in Windows are interesting to solve. However, solitaire games are more like puzzles, they are like games for introverts, they do not involve competition between teams or individual players. However, imagine if FreeCell became a gambling game like poker and hosted international tournaments. I know this is unrealistic, but still. How do you think. Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

Hmmm 🤔 I don’t think you could really make it a gambling game unless you bet on like how fast they could win or lose by? Idk that’s a good question because I too love Solitaire and now I am curious if they offer some sort of gambling game if anyone does. I have it in my car lol I play it when I get bored but I wouldn’t mind making some money and playing!!

[mirakal]

However, imagine if FreeCell became a gambling game like poker and hosted international tournaments. I know this is unrealistic, but still. How do you think. Can solitaire games even be games of chance? Can puzzles even be games of chance?

When it became a game of chance is when gambling sites start offering the game for their customers to make money from their customers. If it is not about gambling, it will not be regarded as game of chance.

I would agree with you. Gambling is more seen as a game of chance and luck, so everything that does not fall with gambling, hence I can't tell that it's still a game of chance. With solitaire, if it's not included in gambling games, then I can't say it's a game of chance,  but just a pure game for past time, a game that will challenge our intellect, and above all a game for patient people who will definitely take a lot of time until one will come to arrange the cards in a systematic order.

[Wexnident]

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It's not really a chance based game so rather unlikely imo. Even if you introduce time limits to it it'd just turn into a competition and not a gamble, otherwise countless puzzle games would've already been a thing.

Pretty right in thinking it was unrealistic and no, they can never be.  At least the base game could never be. A twist or something might be able to pull it off but at that point is it still solitaire?

[KTChampions]

I don't compare a game of solitaire with puzzles. Puzzles can be solved or formed to how it should look like. Puzzles have designs that you can achieve. That goal could be reached or not depending on your capacity, but even if you can't make it, it doesn't mean that it can't be solved or formed properly.

This isn't how solitaire games are like. A game of solitaire could be won or lost. It is purely out of luck that you win. It doesn't involve skills. Although focus makes you avoid errors, there are card arrangements that simply can't be won.

If there is a limit on the number of moves in solving puzzles and you cannot “make a move back,” then they are no different from solitaire games. In this case, a lot will depend on simple luck and not on the skill of the player (exactly what is needed to create the mechanics of a gambling game), another question is whether anyone needs this? There are already many classic gambling games, and endless variations of slots appear all the time that imitate a wide variety of mechanics, including puzzles and solitaire.

[yahoo62278]

They actually have a mode where once you start a game of solitaire you start out 52$ in debt. Each card you place in the pikes up top, 2$ comes off that -52. Basically you need to clear 26 cards to break even, anything else is profit.

It's fake money obviously and meant to just make the game more interesting, but I have always wondered if there is somewhere to play thos for real.