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August 02, 2024, 07:29:33 PM
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It is unethical for a medical practitioner to refuse treatment of a an injured person or a sick person in emergency situations especially when he is capable of handling such situation. I won't really blame any hospital that refuses treatment of an injured person simply because no police report was provided, the government should be blamed for imposing such an inhumane law that has no regards for the life of it's citizens. A wanted person will still face the law after treatment.

Every citizen of a country whether a criminal or not has right to life. If at any point a citizen loses his life because of his inability to provide a statement from the police, then thesame  government who gave the citizens this right to enjoy has deprived him of such right.

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August 02, 2024, 08:55:20 PM
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What's your take on this? Is thier a medical, moral or security justification to this?

Morally this is not good and there’s no justification for this. Every life matters and the most important thing is to save a life first before digging up on how to settle the bills or find out more on what really happens to have caused that injury sustained by the victim. In a country where the medical system is top notch and also free to access to all citizens, I don’t think much inquiry is needed before going ahead to treat the person to save his or her life. Only in countries that their medical facilities is not free and citizens have to pay or make a deposit will enforce such on accident victims. In my country, it use to be so, but I read in one of the local news that it has been lifted and they can be treated before further investigating into the matter. I just hope it comes to live, because saying is one thing and taking action towards that is another thing.

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August 03, 2024, 10:04:06 AM
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Is it true that the doctors are waiting for the police's decision or that the victim and the victim's family do not have money to pay hospital fees? Because if he was the only witness to some crime, I think they would need to rescue him immediately without waiting for a decision. Or like the accident you witnessed, so I think the problem here is money.

What I see is that health policies in third world countries are not as good as in other developed countries. Similar to my country, if you are hospitalized in critical condition but do not have enough hospital fees to complete the hospitalization procedures, you will not be treated promptly. It's a shame when it comes to the ethics of my country's medical industry, but we can't do anything else.

I think it depends on the doctor that is in charge of the hospital because some doctors are very stubborn and heartless, some doctors might decide to treat you when you pay the hospital bills but some very stubborn doctors will want to know what happens and get evidence before you get treated, some doctors follow their rules that they will not attend to a accident that concerns criminal issues, I have seen a doctor who refused to attend to a patient because he was injured and it was a fight, so some doctors are not going to treat a patient if they know that the cause of the accident is a serious issue, I’m just saying from what I’ve seen before, some doctors are very stubborn and heartless.

I have never heard of such a case in my country and I think perhaps each country has different regulations. I also have several neighbors who are doctors and nurses. According to them, hospitalization and treatment will not be possible if someone cannot pay the hospital fees. If the patient and the patient's family do not have money but the doctor persists in treatment, the hospital fees will be transferred to that doctor. Meanwhile, doctors' salaries are not too high, so most doctors in my country will refuse treatment if they don't have money for hospital fees. I don't blame the doctors because they still have families and lives, I'm just sad because the government's policy towards the health sector is not satisfactory.

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August 03, 2024, 04:39:32 PM
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Every citizen of a country whether a criminal or not has right to life. If at any point a citizen loses his life because of his inability to provide a statement from the police, then thesame  government who gave the citizens this right to enjoy has deprived him of such right.

I like this statement of yours here because regardless of any crime an individual may commit, we all have the right to live. Even if a person wounded by gunshots was to be a criminal, they can have information that are sensitive if they are caught alive instead of allowing them to be helpless when being taken to the hospital all in the name of demanding for police report. If the government actually wants a criminal to die then they have a way of doing it either by sentencing them to life imprisonment or by a firing squad after being convicted and found guilty of committing a crime so the government should rather abolish such laws of hospitals not attending to patients wounded by gunshots except a police report is issued.

However, it's really very sad to hear that some countries still engage in this kind of wicked act against her people, such situations like this are very rare in western countries.


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August 03, 2024, 07:44:40 PM
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This is a law in some countries but not applicable in all countries, however I really don't see anything good in letting someone with a gun wound die because of police report, I think the right thing to do is to treat the person and in the process of treatment inform the police and let them come before the patient releaser.
There are some laws that are not good and should be amended as soon as possible, because this laws is inhuman and will cause more harm than good to the society in general.
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August 03, 2024, 08:27:57 PM
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What's your take on this? Is thier a medical, moral or security justification to this?
Nothing to hold as a reasonable statement as to why victim of any incidents or accidents are not giving medical attention first before requesting for official statement or financial deposits. Yes, it might have been the case here but some months back, all of these has been reviewed by the government that any victim should first be admitted and given medical attention before any further investigation or compliance.

If the victim has a bullet injury which reflects having illegal stories behind then after giving full medications, the hospital can contact the police for further investigation while the person is still undergoing treatment, it's better to apprehend the victim than letting him die.

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August 10, 2024, 06:43:28 AM
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Is it true that the doctors are waiting for the police's decision or that the victim and the victim's family do not have money to pay hospital fees? Because if he was the only witness to some crime, I think they would need to rescue him immediately without waiting for a decision. Or like the accident you witnessed, so I think the problem here is money.

What I see is that health policies in third world countries are not as good as in other developed countries. Similar to my country, if you are hospitalized in critical condition but do not have enough hospital fees to complete the hospitalization procedures, you will not be treated promptly. It's a shame when it comes to the ethics of my country's medical industry, but we can't do anything else.
In some or major aspects, it's money that talks but rarely do they need a police report if you were gunned but the bottom line there is, lives should be put first before all these. You may not know whose life you were playing with just because you are trying to follow due process.
Seriously the health sector in my country is whack. Even some so-called government owned hospitals are nothing to write about.

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August 10, 2024, 04:03:40 PM
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Is it true that the doctors are waiting for the police's decision or that the victim and the victim's family do not have money to pay hospital fees? Because if he was the only witness to some crime, I think they would need to rescue him immediately without waiting for a decision. Or like the accident you witnessed, so I think the problem here is money.

What I see is that health policies in third world countries are not as good as in other developed countries. Similar to my country, if you are hospitalized in critical condition but do not have enough hospital fees to complete the hospitalization procedures, you will not be treated promptly. It's a shame when it comes to the ethics of my country's medical industry, but we can't do anything else.
In some or major aspects, it's money that talks but rarely do they need a police report if you were gunned but the bottom line there is, lives should be put first before all these. You may not know whose life you were playing with just because you are trying to follow due process.
Seriously the health sector in my country is whack. Even some so-called government owned hospitals are nothing to write about.
apart from not knowing whose life you're jocking with, do they even put themselves in the victims shoe and imagine that if for instance they 're at someone's Mercy but the person refused helping out because he was even unconscious to speak out for himself?  You see the passage of the Bible that says, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you., if only we abide by a fraction of that, then the world will be far more better in many ways.

For the part of refusal to treat victim before payment is being made, the excuse has always been that they've treated people in the past that ended up not paying for thier treatments, as a medical person, if you aren't ready to sacrifice some little things for the lives of the people you've signed to save, then you've not started your medical journey at all.

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August 10, 2024, 05:19:03 PM
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I don't know if this is only applicable in my country but this has bothered me a lot

A situation where someone comes to an hospital with a gun wound that's severe and life threatening and the doctors would refuse him treatment untill an official statement from the police is brought.

Even when the person is almost giving up, the doctors and nurses would have zero pity on him and would watch you die if he's not able to get a statement from the police.

I've witnessed similar case that's not even a gun wound but a situation where deposits are requested from an accident victim that was rushed in by strangers and some doctors would even refuse offering treatment till in some unfortunate cases, the person gives up the ghost.

What's your take on this? Is thier a medical, moral or security justification to this?


This is a very sad and heartbreaking incident. The most serious thing in the world is that people do not get services even in such a critical situation. Such policies should be withdrawn because people's lives are above all. If a person is a criminal ‍and his life is in danger he should be cleared first and brought to justice. It is an act against humanity.

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