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July 31, 2024, 08:13:11 PM
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Wow a lot of offensive replies to the project !!
You shouldn't be surprised because there were many scam cloud mining companies and legit ones never offered a good ROI. Hashnest, Genesis Mining and years of experience have proved that all cloud mining contracts are unprofitable or in the worst case, scams and ponzis. While I'm saying this, keep in mind that mining was way more profitable in 2016-2017 than it is today. In the old days you could buy a GPU and mine at home, now mining is a commercial business, it's not as profitable as it was before and I think buying a cloud mining contract is a terrible idea today.

So please if anybody have any idea to share and discuss we will be very happy to do that.
Hashnest had a hashrate marketplace. Registered users could buy and sell hashrate of s3, s5 and s7 at any time, it was like Bitcoin trading. I think the implementation of that feature will be good instead of one-time contracts where you buy it and pray that you'll profit or won't get scammed.

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August 01, 2024, 09:55:03 AM
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Cloud mining is not sustainable. You will get diminishing returns on hardware that you rent online, because this is the only way the provider can otherwise make a profit and pay off their own gear.

Thanks for your reply, dont worry everything is calculated very well for both the users and the team its a win x win situation we are cutting of long period proft to shorten the period and user is getting the hash rate for a decent price.


For sure you already notice how people approach on the project you are promoting since we already experience a lot of cloud mining scams here. So don't expect that there's someone will say something good about cloud mining since so far none of those kind of projects sustain since usually all became a scam.

Even if you say calculated still that's not enough word to make people believe since cloud mining is over used methods that's why I believe there's no people here will show some interest to invest in this project.

People from this forum already know what is the real happening on cloud mining schemes so we can assume that this is failed attempt here.

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August 01, 2024, 11:45:44 AM
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Cloud mining is not sustainable. You will get diminishing returns on hardware that you rent online, because this is the only way the provider can otherwise make a profit and pay off their own gear.

Thanks for your reply, dont worry everything is calculated very well for both the users and the team its a win x win situation we are cutting of long period proft to shorten the period and user is getting the hash rate for a decent price.

I don't think you understood where I was getting at.

Of course, you can calculate the proportion of the hardware to buy and where to place it and for how long and at what electricity rate to run for a particular amount of time, but the problem here is something that the miner has no control over of. It is the coin price.

Let's say you are mining DOGE and it is currently at $0.12 per DOGE but then 5 months later after the mine starts it goes down to $0.05 per DOGE because Elon tweeted some dumb shit.

Now you and your users are effectively mining at a loss and what is worse is that there is no guarantee that the DOGE price will go back to the original price, let alone when.

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August 01, 2024, 01:43:47 PM
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Cloud mining is not sustainable. You will get diminishing returns on hardware that you rent online, because this is the only way the provider can otherwise make a profit and pay off their own gear.
For cloud mining, hardware is not required at all. It is enough to have a script that will show users some data and numbers so they should believe that some devices work for them.

Thanks for your reply, dont worry everything is calculated very well for both the users and the team its a win x win situation we are cutting of long period proft to shorten the period and user is getting the hash rate for a decent price.
If you have calculated everything well, why not share your calculation here, I'm sure there are members here who are familiar with mining, equipment and eventual ROI. If nothing else, it will show you in the right light, and you just might get some good suggestions.

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August 01, 2024, 02:41:51 PM
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any user that understand how mining works, really hard will join a cloud mining project. thats why most of the sites are offering a "ROI" fixed .
Well, since all of them are not able to beat prices of bigger players likewise https://www.nicehash.com/marketplace they can't run a legit business and just have a scam site.
You can't calculate anything related hash power needed.
Normally this is a value that is going only up. If you hope to be in profit (hence you don't know when and what are difficult improvement) you are completely wrong and it's better avoid to offer any service like this.

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August 01, 2024, 07:16:57 PM
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Please dont nobody is pointing anything to your head cool down dude, for the evidence yes we have and alot but we wont share them for a purpose which is ( Its not the time to do that ) and you will have the right to ask for them when the platform is ready and we are advertising for it and believe you will not ask because it will be available for everyone Cheesy

This is not something new I have seen hundreds of these when cloud mining was sustainable back when Bitcoin price was affordable, now it's so easy to set up cloud mining without hardware all you need is a script like this one
Fake the images on your homepage to make people believe that you have hardware and a location.
If you are really into mining, forget to offer a cloud mining plan and just mine and keep the profit; stop telling people that cloud mining is still profitable.


I know that cloud mining isn't something new and most of it is scam you are totally right just like alot of shitcoins, what really i want you to understand is not everybody is scammer specially when everything is explained very well but anyway we are sure that our plans will be profitable for both sides and we wont use this script XD and as i told before hashrate will be provided from the famous mining pool and the user will be able to monitor his hash rate in both ourside which means his dashboard or from the pool page and we will not stop our project because numbers never lies and we do know what we are doing.

We are not convincing anybody to take any action we are just seeking for information's and since yesterday we considered the most major thing to work on is proofing that we are not scam and for sure we gonna do that in multiple ways.
I don't know what multiple ways you mean, but just take note that you are not going to be able to prove anything, so if that is what you intend to do, then you better put your time to better endeavors, or just mine without other people's money since you claim to have hardware and more than one data center. Cloud mining is a scam, and only naive newbies can fall for it, there is no use arguing your case here.

Hello thanks for your reply.

If you read the answers you will find that we are implementing a famous pool with our monitoring system so that real time hashrate will be available in user dashboard and the pool page.

Nothing scam here dude and please read my replies to find out how we are not a scammers and the project isn't a scam.

Wow a lot of offensive replies to the project !!
You shouldn't be surprised because there were many scam cloud mining companies and legit ones never offered a good ROI. Hashnest, Genesis Mining and years of experience have proved that all cloud mining contracts are unprofitable or in the worst case, scams and ponzis. While I'm saying this, keep in mind that mining was way more profitable in 2016-2017 than it is today. In the old days you could buy a GPU and mine at home, now mining is a commercial business, it's not as profitable as it was before and I think buying a cloud mining contract is a terrible idea today.

So please if anybody have any idea to share and discuss we will be very happy to do that.
Hashnest had a hashrate marketplace. Registered users could buy and sell hashrate of s3, s5 and s7 at any time, it was like Bitcoin trading. I think the implementation of that feature will be good instead of one-time contracts where you buy it and pray that you'll profit or won't get scammed.

Hello thanks for your reply.

Actually im not but i didnt thought that even with providing needed informations still peoples not able to understand.

For the marketplace its a good idea and actually we did talk about it but we moved it as a future feature to be done.

Thanks dude.

Cloud mining is not sustainable. You will get diminishing returns on hardware that you rent online, because this is the only way the provider can otherwise make a profit and pay off their own gear.

Thanks for your reply, dont worry everything is calculated very well for both the users and the team its a win x win situation we are cutting of long period proft to shorten the period and user is getting the hash rate for a decent price.


For sure you already notice how people approach on the project you are promoting since we already experience a lot of cloud mining scams here. So don't expect that there's someone will say something good about cloud mining since so far none of those kind of projects sustain since usually all became a scam.

Even if you say calculated still that's not enough word to make people believe since cloud mining is over used methods that's why I believe there's no people here will show some interest to invest in this project.

People from this forum already know what is the real happening on cloud mining schemes so we can assume that this is failed attempt here.

Hello thanks for your reply.

Please go and read my previous replies well so everything is explained very well.

I know that you guys faced alot of scammers and most of cloud mining projects are scam but ours is not a scam and everything is totally real.

Cloud mining is not sustainable. You will get diminishing returns on hardware that you rent online, because this is the only way the provider can otherwise make a profit and pay off their own gear.

Thanks for your reply, dont worry everything is calculated very well for both the users and the team its a win x win situation we are cutting of long period proft to shorten the period and user is getting the hash rate for a decent price.

I don't think you understood where I was getting at.

Of course, you can calculate the proportion of the hardware to buy and where to place it and for how long and at what electricity rate to run for a particular amount of time, but the problem here is something that the miner has no control over of. It is the coin price.

Let's say you are mining DOGE and it is currently at $0.12 per DOGE but then 5 months later after the mine starts it goes down to $0.05 per DOGE because Elon tweeted some dumb shit.

Now you and your users are effectively mining at a loss and what is worse is that there is no guarantee that the DOGE price will go back to the original price, let alone when.

Hey,

I already explained that before that this is mining risk which are difficulty and coin price and this nobody can control it even if you bought a miner and run it at your home !!

The main problem in this thread is proving that our project isnt scam ponzi etc..


Cloud mining is not sustainable. You will get diminishing returns on hardware that you rent online, because this is the only way the provider can otherwise make a profit and pay off their own gear.
For cloud mining, hardware is not required at all. It is enough to have a script that will show users some data and numbers so they should believe that some devices work for them.

Thanks for your reply, dont worry everything is calculated very well for both the users and the team its a win x win situation we are cutting of long period proft to shorten the period and user is getting the hash rate for a decent price.
If you have calculated everything well, why not share your calculation here, I'm sure there are members here who are familiar with mining, equipment and eventual ROI. If nothing else, it will show you in the right light, and you just might get some good suggestions.

Hello, thanks for your reply.

please read the previous replies in the thread and calculation isnt something to be shared bro  Huh but dont worry both sides are covered well i mean users and team nobody gonna theoretically be in lose spot and i mean by theoretically the BTC price and mining difficulty.


any user that understand how mining works, really hard will join a cloud mining project. thats why most of the sites are offering a "ROI" fixed .
Well, since all of them are not able to beat prices of bigger players likewise https://www.nicehash.com/marketplace they can't run a legit business and just have a scam site.
You can't calculate anything related hash power needed.
Normally this is a value that is going only up. If you hope to be in profit (hence you don't know when and what are difficult improvement) you are completely wrong and it's better avoid to offer any service like this.

Hello, thanks for your reply.

If you went through my replies you will understand how any miner will do his best to never miss our project available hash rate if the our price is way less than his cost mining at his home or any other locations locally.

Please read my previous replies and how we calculated the benefits of this project.
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August 01, 2024, 11:30:52 PM
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Wow a lot of offensive replies to the project !!

Anyway i hope this reply will answer most of the questions Smiley

Before we start working on the project we thought about the scamming issue and how to prove that our project is not a scam and we came up with multiple ideas one of them is the videos and the pictures of the data centers but the main idea was the deal with the famous mining pool that will co-operate with us.
You have expected those coming to you and you seem to know the history of cloud mining projects and that's why those offensive replies to you are coming. To be honest, showing videos and pictures of your data centers doesn't click the idea as many of them, whether real or not, won't justify that you are legitimate because anyone can grab that or have someone to hire and have it handed to you. But if you're going to prove something such as that partnership with a famous and reputable mining pool, then that might give a change to our heads about your project although it doesn't guarantee the thought of being tagged as a cloud mining project, thoughts coming to people's head is that another one might bite the dust soon.

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August 02, 2024, 01:20:08 AM
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Wow a lot of offensive replies to the project !!

Anyway i hope this reply will answer most of the questions Smiley

Before we start working on the project we thought about the scamming issue and how to prove that our project is not a scam and we came up with multiple ideas one of them is the videos and the pictures of the data centers but the main idea was the deal with the famous mining pool that will co-operate with us.
You have expected those coming to you and you seem to know the history of cloud mining projects and that's why those offensive replies to you are coming. To be honest, showing videos and pictures of your data centers doesn't click the idea as many of them, whether real or not, won't justify that you are legitimate because anyone can grab that or have someone to hire and have it handed to you. But if you're going to prove something such as that partnership with a famous and reputable mining pool, then that might give a change to our heads about your project although it doesn't guarantee the thought of being tagged as a cloud mining project, thoughts coming to people's head is that another one might bite the dust soon.

Hello, thanks for your reply.

Yes even though before we check the real history of the cloud mining any new online project is facing the scamming issue specially "Crypto" and how to solve it and there is always a way to do so we are doing our best daily to increase the proving and decrease centrality so we can reach the maximum transparency possible and success.
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we are doing our best daily to increase the proving and decrease centrality so we can reach the maximum transparency possible and success.
You have been repeating the same thing in this topic, what you are simply saying is that people should trust you, without proving why you should be trusted. You have been told how cloud mining is a scam, if you think your project is different, then post things that prove it and if you don't have any proof or you claim that your project isn't ready yet, then lock the topic and come back when you have something tangible.

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August 02, 2024, 09:01:20 PM
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we are doing our best daily to increase the proving and decrease centrality so we can reach the maximum transparency possible and success.
You have been repeating the same thing in this topic, what you are simply saying is that people should trust you, without proving why you should be trusted. You have been told how cloud mining is a scam, if you think your project is different, then post things that prove it and if you don't have any proof or you claim that your project isn't ready yet, then lock the topic and come back when you have something tangible.

Hey, Actually what im saying is that not every thing is scam yes we should be carful but within reasonable limits anyway the purpose of this thread isnt to prove anything its actually for listening to ideas and expectations to improve user experience.

Thanks btw for your reply dude.
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August 02, 2024, 10:33:17 PM
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Wow a lot of offensive replies to the project !!

Anyway i hope this reply will answer most of the questions Smiley

Before we start working on the project we thought about the scamming issue and how to prove that our project is not a scam and we came up with multiple ideas one of them is the videos and the pictures of the data centers but the main idea was the deal with the famous mining pool that will co-operate with us.
You have expected those coming to you and you seem to know the history of cloud mining projects and that's why those offensive replies to you are coming. To be honest, showing videos and pictures of your data centers doesn't click the idea as many of them, whether real or not, won't justify that you are legitimate because anyone can grab that or have someone to hire and have it handed to you. But if you're going to prove something such as that partnership with a famous and reputable mining pool, then that might give a change to our heads about your project although it doesn't guarantee the thought of being tagged as a cloud mining project, thoughts coming to people's head is that another one might bite the dust soon.

Hello, thanks for your reply.

Yes even though before we check the real history of the cloud mining any new online project is facing the scamming issue specially "Crypto" and how to solve it and there is always a way to do so we are doing our best daily to increase the proving and decrease centrality so we can reach the maximum transparency possible and success.
Well, if you're keen on doing that then I'd just wish you luck because that impression is hard to change to the most that has an idea about it. So, just like the usual move of those scam cloud mining, their main targets are the newbies. And on how are you going to solve that, it's up to you and let the community see if that's going to be genuine or not. As for the bitcointalk community, many are aware of those tactics and I hope that you'll not be the same as those.

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August 04, 2024, 03:49:35 PM
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what you are simply saying is that people should trust you, without proving why you should be trusted.

We should always trust a random guy offering a legit service that was able to find the secret formula and providing vague responses over the countless experiences of plebs who burned their money on these cloud mining offered by BIG exchanges and mining companies.

OP's entire response could just be summed up as: "TRUST ME BRO"
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August 05, 2024, 11:48:20 AM
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Wow a lot of offensive replies to the project !!
That's what you get when you create a "project" that was used by so many scammers before you.

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