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August 03, 2024, 10:05:38 PM
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They have understood that signals can be just a bunch of opinions from whoever founded those channels and they are aware that they might just lose that payment that they've paid to them just to be part of that nonsense groups. I have never joined any of them IIRC or if I did in the past, I have never paid any cent to those groups but it's interesting to know what they're up to based on the games that I am betting as well to see if they're giving some reliable and quite accurate signals. The loss is there whether you've got these groups or not, so why add more losses to yourself by paying them if your bets are even unsure. The joy is there when you make your own analysis and you're not allowing someone to break that to you because you know that it is your money that you're betting for any sport that you like to be with and if you lose, you're not going to feel bad about it just because someone dictated you what to bet.

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August 03, 2024, 10:32:53 PM
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It's normal to lose but if someone asking people to pay him to make predictions is having too many false outcomes predicted then it's surely a problem. How could someone have the nerve to ask for money when they can't even try to earn some money on their own this way? In the end, of they were that good, they wouldn't need other people's money.

I'd just say that this is a very good proof of why paid signals are almost always scams. Unless you're part of a free group for discussion, of it involves paying a subscription the promises will be false 90% of the time.

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August 03, 2024, 11:05:22 PM
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As the title you made OP that this is a double loss where you lose your bet money and also lose the money you have used to pay for signals or predictions from the service from the start, but maybe I will add another loss that must also be felt by the gambler, namely disappointment or even significant emotions when it turns out that the results are not in accordance with what they expected at the beginning.

Actually gambling using a prediction signal intermediary or gambling in your own way is nothing more than a choice, or depends on yourself as long as you only bet with an amount that you can afford, but I'm sure that's not in their minds, I'm sure that the only biggest reason why they are willing to spend money to pay for the signal is because of the great hope of being able to win, and I'm also sure that they must be betting in quite large amounts because for them they definitely don't want to make payments many times to pay for the prediction signal fee, so they make the first opportunity to get a big win by betting a significant amount, and of course when it turns out the results are not as expected then it will be very disappointing.

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August 03, 2024, 11:24:56 PM
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It's normal to lose but if someone asking people to pay him to make predictions is having too many false outcomes predicted then it's surely a problem. How could someone have the nerve to ask for money when they can't even try to earn some money on their own this way? In the end, of they were that good, they wouldn't need other people's money.

I'd just say that this is a very good proof of why paid signals are almost always scams. Unless you're part of a free group for discussion, of it involves paying a subscription the promises will be false 90% of the time.
There are More false groups than the real ones when it has to do with gambling predictions and all of that, when someone ask you to pay for predictions, fort things first is for you to understand the you cannot have any absoluteness when it has to do with the results and the outcome of the games, so you can never be too sure and so paying may not be an ideal thing to do because just anyone can come up with a prediction and no people pay for it saying they are sure to win such.

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August 03, 2024, 11:57:37 PM
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It's normal to lose but if someone asking people to pay him to make predictions is having too many false outcomes predicted then it's surely a problem. How could someone have the nerve to ask for money when they can't even try to earn some money on their own this way? In the end, of they were that good, they wouldn't need other people's money.

I'd just say that this is a very good proof of why paid signals are almost always scams. Unless you're part of a free group for discussion, of it involves paying a subscription the promises will be false 90% of the time.
I keep wondering too why the operators of these sites that generate signals that gives accurate predictions don't use these predictions to win big for themselves instead of selling out these predictions to other gamblers for few bucks. From my experiences so far, I have come to understand that gambling is all about luck and not some tricks by some people to maneuver the system. If a gambler uses those signals and wins, then that's his luck. But if unfortunately he loses, then that's a double loss for him just like OP stated. Gambling predictions sites will only predict, the predictions might not be accurate. Such sites might be relevant to those who have no idea about what they are gambling on and what strategy to use. All they need to do is to use the predictions and wait for a win or loss.

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August 04, 2024, 07:49:41 PM
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You have every right to be mad. You were tricked. These "expert prediction" groups? They're leeches, bottom feeders, and they prey on desperation. They offer dreams for sale and bring dust. It does not matter what tool you use: Telegram, Facebook, etc. Most of the time, if they hide something behind a paywall, it's not real. They are not in the business of winning bets; they are in the business of taking your money

There's no easy way out. No magic trick. There is no "insider info" worth a damn. To win this game, you need to know what you're doing and stick to it. Learn everything you can about the sport and make your own decisions. Yes, you will lose sometimes. It's what everyone does. But at least you'll lose on your own terms and be able to learn from your mistakes instead of helping a con artist get rich. And if you have to get help, only listen to sources you can trust. Analysts who aren't afraid to show their work and are open about how they do their job are a good sign. Remember that when you bet, you earn trust, not buy it

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August 04, 2024, 08:10:55 PM
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Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended  up losing.
I haven’t joined any paid signal group before, most of the ones I have seen are free, but I see them as a complete waste of time. After joining some of them, I will be asked to pay a certain amount of money before I will be added to their VIP group, but I have never tried it before. Maybe some people might be in some real paid signal group, but I haven’t heard anyone say anything good about those paid signal groups. Most of them do end up complaining that they are scammed because they didn’t get the right signal.


Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.
Most of them will just apologize that they made a mistake, and you should be patient with them, they are working on other predictions that they will be dropping soon. With time, if you keep losing continuously, you will either leave the group or stop following them.

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August 04, 2024, 08:15:30 PM
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Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended  up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

If you have gamble using predictions platform and you lose, then you have just comfirm nothing but the truth. You don't need anybody to tell you that these so called game selection and options from predicting website are good games you can bet your money into. You will only be losing because first and foremost, there is nothing like assurance in any game you pick in gambling whether you have been expert for years or not, nothing is guaranteed.

Gambling on your own not only improves your way of gambling, it helps you understand your judgement and choice of games that you selected. If you are wrong, you can improve on the way you gamble and when you win, you will be happy that you did well. These together helps you and break from independency of any games selection platforms just like the one you said you loss to with double loss.

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August 04, 2024, 08:21:42 PM
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Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended  up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.
How stupid that could be to anyone willing to trust the judgments of others over theirs.... No matter how constructive one can be during speculations, they can't get exactly what they want, when and how they want it; its a sort of mind game... If I ever see a need to join a channel on speculations and update, I'd review every single game and change the options a little bit, before wagering on them.
It's a double loss -- especially since the only thing you can do to express your emotion is react to a post on their telegram channel that acknowledges the dead game... What a waste!!

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August 04, 2024, 08:50:21 PM
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Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended  up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

I think there is a difference between groups with signals and forecasts. How a person shows their forecast and what assessment they give it. That is, if a person presents their forecast as a confident deal and promises victory and high odds, then most likely sooner or later you will be disappointed in this source (most likely sooner). If a person presents their opinion as a forecast and nothing more, does not promise anything and simply explains why it is worth or not worth making a bet, then you can stop your attention if the person's results are good.

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It can be a wake up call for them to understand that free money doesn’t exist in this world, if these predictors are really good at making money from sport betting, why they would sell their signals or predictions for people with a small price which they could get in few seconds by boosting their betting amount.
True, it is a double loss, but at least they may find out the truth behind it and they should know that everyone is losing when it comes to sports betting or anything related to gambling.

Unfortunately, it is still a very popular thing: these paid groups and lately it is trending in our local area. I have tried to warn many people but most of them find it hard to believe me while they could believe the scammer for giving them fake proofs of winning.

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Its clear that this signal group thing is not how the game is played. Do these people really sell "guaranteed" predictions? That is definitely a con. There's always danger and the unknown in games. People who pay for these predictions are buying into a lie: the lie that they have power. Losing has two bad effects at once. In terms of money, there's no doubt that it hurts. That being said, what about the mental cost? The constant need to win, the anger at losses, and the mental ups and downs wear you down.

This keeps getting people to fall for it. Its because we want to be sure. Things that can go wrong in life scare us. But folks, thats the truth. Its risky to live. Yes, we can start making better decisions in all areas of our lives once we accept that. Not just when we bet.

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August 05, 2024, 03:38:05 PM
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Its clear that this signal group thing is not how the game is played. Do these people really sell "guaranteed" predictions? That is definitely a con. There's always danger and the unknown in games. People who pay for these predictions are buying into a lie: the lie that they have power. Losing has two bad effects at once. In terms of money, there's no doubt that it hurts. That being said, what about the mental cost? The constant need to win, the anger at losses, and the mental ups and downs wear you down.

This keeps getting people to fall for it. Its because we want to be sure. Things that can go wrong in life scare us. But folks, thats the truth. Its risky to live. Yes, we can start making better decisions in all areas of our lives once we accept that. Not just when we bet.
Exactly, most times the way they predict the games is not the same way that the games was played, this is because no one can know the outcome of the games when it's not yet begin. However, based on my perspectives I don't agree with anyone that there's anything like fixed game. Luck might make the games to be played as the predictor wished doesn't measure that the games was fixed. Although, this is how the predictors trick's beginners and most of them end up paying to get a prediction that won't help them get closer to winning.

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August 05, 2024, 05:15:00 PM
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Its clear that this signal group thing is not how the game is played. Do these people really sell "guaranteed" predictions? That is definitely a con. There's always danger and the unknown in games. People who pay for these predictions are buying into a lie: the lie that they have power. Losing has two bad effects at once. In terms of money, there's no doubt that it hurts. That being said, what about the mental cost? The constant need to win, the anger at losses, and the mental ups and downs wear you down.

This keeps getting people to fall for it. Its because we want to be sure. Things that can go wrong in life scare us. But folks, thats the truth. Its risky to live. Yes, we can start making better decisions in all areas of our lives once we accept that. Not just when we bet.
Exactly, most times the way they predict the games is not the same way that the games was played, this is because no one can know the outcome of the games when it's not yet begin. However, based on my perspectives I don't agree with anyone that there's anything like fixed game. Luck might make the games to be played as the predictor wished doesn't measure that the games was fixed. Although, this is how the predictors trick's beginners and most of them end up paying to get a prediction that won't help them get closer to winning.
We do normally trying out to connect those past games into the present and future on which it would really be that something that we would really be basing up on this aspect. Its not really that bad on trying out to join up some groups on which of course it would really be something helpful but it wont really be that needed for you to pay up something because you could really be able to actually be able to get those information free of charge or simply speaking or talking about joining up groups without needing on spending up even more. There are really just those people who are really that too lazy or something that being too delusional and this is why on the time or moment that they will really be able to experience out some loses due to such too much expectation then they are really that already ending up on having that kind of disappointment.
It would really be considered to be a double loss thing since you have lost your bet and you have also lost your money that you paid with those shit groups.

People do really make out realizations on the time or moment that they will really be able to face up those particular conditions on which they've been hoping that much but ending up on having
those lose if you arent that lucky enough. On the moment that you are already anticipating for some win despite of those conditions but still ending up on a loss because of too much
anticipation on which this could lead into those impulsive approach on which we know that this isnt really recommended thing.

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August 05, 2024, 07:41:43 PM
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I wouldn't join a paid group without getting a confirmation of their abilities first. If the guy that takes all the money is sure of his picks he shouldn't have a problem with sharing some of them for free. If I knew he's consistent, after watching him do well on a few of his bets, I might join to try him out, but I'd need a lot of time before I'd be willing to try.
You should realize that by selling picks he's playing for free and he will keep doing that until he causes you enough loss that you quit his group and stop paying him, in which case he'll change name, start a new group and do everything all over again. He's not responsible for any of your losses, so it's always a win for him. He will never lose when he plays with your money.
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If you have gamble using predictions platform and you lose, then you have just comfirm nothing but the truth. You don't need anybody to tell you that these so called game selection and options from predicting website are good games you can bet your money into. You will only be losing because first and foremost, there is nothing like assurance in any game you pick in gambling whether you have been expert for years or not, nothing is guaranteed.

Gambling on your own not only improves your way of gambling, it helps you understand your judgement and choice of games that you selected. If you are wrong, you can improve on the way you gamble and when you win, you will be happy that you did well. These together helps you and break from independency of any games selection platforms just like the one you said you loss to with double loss.
I've said this many times, I'll say it again, if a person doesn't know much about sports or have never had any interest in them, sports betting is not for them. Many people might get into sports betting because they hear success stories of others who have managed to win a lot of money from sports betting but these people need to understand that the ones who manage to win a lot of money from sports betting are sports lovers, they have always been into sports and they have a vast knowledge about sports.

If you don't have any knowledge about any sport and you have never followed a sport closely, don't fool yourself, don't use prediction services and signals and waste your money because even if such things work, they will only work for a short term, in the long run, you will be at a loss.

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August 10, 2024, 06:34:29 PM
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Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended  up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

To be honest, I also really wanted to join such a group/channel but unfortunately, I was never able to find one that I felt confident in joining. Although indeed, I prefer to do my own work or choice on something that I bet on, but at certain times, the feeling of wanting to join a prediction group/channel like that sometimes comes to mind. But the truth is, until now I have never joined such a group, moreover, making bets by paying predictions for me is something wrong because indeed, it is true as you say it will be a double loss.

But at least, it is also only considered about the losing result, of course,when we consider about the winning result of course the consideration and discussion will be different too. For example, we have made a lot of profits in this way and then lost, then I think with a small percentage of losses it might not be that much of a problem if we get one defeat. But indeed, the reality is that it will certainly be difficult to get a win in gambling, and ofcourse we also still have to have good consideration to do so so as not to experience such a double defeat.

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I do not know if I have written on this previously but meh are there people that believe in signal groups?
And why do they have to believe all of those shots?
If there were actually signal groups that give atheist 99% accurate predictions then I think it will be filled with their family members and we'll wishers and not trying to get money from the poor masses who seek every opportunity to earn from gambling.
I think thus shouldn't some form serve as a warming fir people to desist from.gambking unnecessarily and focus more on doing this things by themselves rather than been lured by those scammers in firm of signal givers

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August 11, 2024, 02:20:58 PM
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I do not know if I have written on this previously but meh are there people that believe in signal groups?
And why do they have to believe all of those shots?
If there were actually signal groups that give atheist 99% accurate predictions then I think it will be filled with their family members and we'll wishers and not trying to get money from the poor masses who seek every opportunity to earn from gambling.
I think thus shouldn't some form serve as a warming fir people to desist from.gambking unnecessarily and focus more on doing this things by themselves rather than been lured by those scammers in firm of signal givers
That is the obvious truth but many gamblers do not want to accept it, the few pro gamblers out there which can profit from it will never share their method with anyone, as I even doubt they will be willing to share that information with their family members, because the more people know the secret, the greater the chances that it could be revealed, and once that happens you can be sure the effectiveness of the strategy will decline and may even become an unprofitable strategy.
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August 11, 2024, 04:08:30 PM
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Actually I don't know if this should be discussed here but I think it will make up a good discussion.
Although it's just for those that have joined a signal groups/channels for predictions, but still ended  up losing. Am just curious to know how they feel when they paid for a prediction and finally lose the games even after paying their money thinking that the predictions are sure. IMO, this is a double loss thing.

That's life for you, and that reason why gambling is all about luck because the prediction also boils down to luck. You can literally gambling without being lucky . So despite how one claim to be pro when it comes to prediction never go in with money you can't afford to lose , because one prediction can never be 100% accurate so is still  base on probability either you win or lose . But sometimes the prediction do increase the chances of winning though that's when the person predicting Is really good Inthe game but still can't be 100% so just always have the mindset that you can either win or lose , because prediction is still boils down to luck.

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