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September 22, 2024, 02:38:24 AM
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Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
In Indonesia, gambling is a prohibited activity because the majority of its people are Muslim, making Indonesia not allow gambling, but on the other hand, even though it is prohibited, there are still people who gamble, whether it is physical or online gambling, but what is clear is that currently the most popular is online gambling. Some cases that have occurred are that some people were caught by the authorities for openly promoting online gambling sites with their social media accounts, but this incident did not deter people because many still do it, I am sure of this right. I think there are no local casinos available in Indonesia, even if there are I think they are in hidden places, because if there is a local casino that is open it can cause quite serious conflicts because it is against the law.

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September 22, 2024, 05:55:15 AM
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Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Well Indonesia according to research is one of the highest Muslim religious country with seriousness in their beliefs. I think they did that to avoid their children and most of their religious people to stay clear from addiction of gambling, pornography, cyber crime and other online deceptive and curruptive practices that will mislead or twist their Faith. Because internet can be misleeding and distructive if not controlled.

But as for you @satscraper, I think in every country I believe there are offline or local gambling place which they gamble offline in a one on one bet which you can just follow up if you find it interesting. But if you can't play such games I guess you can log-in with your online gambling app and continue with your gambling using another country VPN I think maybe it would work.

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September 22, 2024, 07:59:17 AM
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Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Well Indonesia according to research is one of the highest Muslim religious country with seriousness in their beliefs. I think they did that to avoid their children and most of their religious people to stay clear from addiction of gambling, pornography, cyber crime and other online deceptive and curruptive practices that will mislead or twist their Faith. Because internet can be misleeding and distructive if not controlled.

But as for you @satscraper, I think in every country I believe there are offline or local gambling place which they gamble offline in a one on one bet which you can just follow up if you find it interesting. But if you can't play such games I guess you can log-in with your online gambling app and continue with your gambling using another country VPN I think maybe it would work.
Knowing on muslim religion on which gambling is really that prohibited. I dont know on whats the major religion of people mostly in Indonesia but since its mentioned about Islam then its known that gambling isnt really that permitted.On the time that they've seen that there's a sudden spike or increase of gambling activity or interest then this is the time that they would really be giving out some bans on which it will really be that somewhat understandable on the things that their government is doing. It isnt really just that for the sake of religious aspect but also for the sake of the protection into its citizens in regarding gambling addiction.
Just like on what everyone is really that telling or saying on this one that people will really be finding up ways or methods for them to bypass for them to be able to play up gambling no matter what.

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September 22, 2024, 08:00:16 AM
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You should not playing online gambling using your phones because you can get a problem from the authorities. If you want to playing gambling, maybe you can play when you are in your hotel and no one knows what you do. But that is not a suggestion because we don't know how strict they are with a tourist.
Yes, you should not gamble in public places, especially if you are close to the police station, it will get you in trouble.
But if you play in a place where there are no officers at all, people won't care.

Indonesia will not be as strict either, what you see in Berta about checking the phones of visitors or tourists is just a formality for a to-do list,
even though they will not do it every day LOL.
But still he must concerns not to playing gambling in a public place even if there is nobody there. That will still gives him a risk because he never know when someone coming and watch over him playing gambling. Maybe what you say is right about the Indonesia is not too strict as in the new but we never know the real thing that can happen.

It is better to prevents than gets the problem Grin

At least, we knows what we can do and don't when we are in other country.

Indonesia don't have a local casinos so you will not find that in all cities. But if you can talk with local people, maybe they know something about underground casino.
And yes, if you ask the locals where the local casinos are hidden, they will tell you.
It was completely hidden, and only certain people could enter and know.
Rather than you are curious about local casinos, it is better to play on your mobile phone only, it will be safer.
I also suggested the same things as you to playing gambling from his mobile phones and in the hotel so no one will know. But he needs to be careful when ask the locals about the local casino. That is because not many people know that places and besides that, the undercover police will be around there. That is why he needs to be careful.

Indonesia prohibit gambling so that is normal if their government blocked DuckDuckGo in Indonesia. That is because they don't wants to see their citizen find a casino using that search engine. But that will not stop those people to use the other search engine.
Yup.
They have probably been blocked due to the activities of their citizens but people nowadays are wise when it comes to these matters. They'll buy VPN or will use any other tools for browsing and continue whatever they're doing to their customers. Whether it's gambling, work related or anything. But at least with the Indonesian government, they've made their own ways of dealing with it through imposing a ban or blockage of duckduckgo. AFAIK, they have a new president so this could change overtime but if not, there won't be any need to modify its decisions.
Using VPN is the option for those who wants to pass the blocked by their government. With free or paid VPN, they can still visits the site they want without any problem. if they can not access one casino, they will search for the other casino and they can find it easily.

The Indonesian government need hard work and serious to imposing a ban or blockage of something that illegal in their country. They need to monitor every ISP's in their country and that will not easy to monitor all people who use Internet.


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September 22, 2024, 10:58:50 AM
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Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Well Indonesia according to research is one of the highest Muslim religious country with seriousness in their beliefs. I think they did that to avoid their children and most of their religious people to stay clear from addiction of gambling, pornography, cyber crime and other online deceptive and curruptive practices that will mislead or twist their Faith. Because internet can be misleeding and distructive if not controlled.

But as for you @satscraper, I think in every country I believe there are offline or local gambling place which they gamble offline in a one on one bet which you can just follow up if you find it interesting. But if you can't play such games I guess you can log-in with your online gambling app and continue with your gambling using another country VPN I think maybe it would work.
Knowing on muslim religion on which gambling is really that prohibited. I dont know on whats the major religion of people mostly in Indonesia but since its mentioned about Islam then its known that gambling isnt really that permitted.On the time that they've seen that there's a sudden spike or increase of gambling activity or interest then this is the time that they would really be giving out some bans on which it will really be that somewhat understandable on the things that their government is doing. It isnt really just that for the sake of religious aspect but also for the sake of the protection into its citizens in regarding gambling addiction.
Just like on what everyone is really that telling or saying on this one that people will really be finding up ways or methods for them to bypass for them to be able to play up gambling no matter what.

The country of Indonesia is a Muslim country that at the same time also has Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, and Confucianism. But of course the majority there are actually Muslim people. So, whatever Indonesia did, it's normal because of the Muslim belief that gambling games are really forbidden to them.

Now, if there are still people out there who will play online gambling, for sure they will use a VPN so that they can continue their passion for gambling. Although they should also be prepared for the consequences they may face at the casino.

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September 22, 2024, 11:40:16 AM
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OP have you visited Indonesia? Rest assured it is a friendly country except gambling is strictly prohibited. If you are looking for authentic tourist attractions then Indonesia has many that you should visit.

Although the DuckDuckGo search engine is blocked in Indonesia (as I just realized) but when doing a Google search engine you can still see casinos there like some casinos on the forum that are not censored in the Google search engine.

Indeed, Indonesia is very rampant with many fake online casino sites, meaning that it is a fraudulent casino that they organize in such a way, so the government must have blocked many casinos by the thousands.

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September 22, 2024, 12:18:29 PM
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ever seen news on the web that Indonesia is number 1 in slot gambling games throughout Asia until it went viral. the government revealed large amounts of money transactions in and out in one day up to trillions. Indonesia is indeed the largest Muslim majority country. the other side of the news is that there are many cases of people being economically destroyed, committing suicide, divorce increasing because of the effects they create themselves. in the news article

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September 22, 2024, 12:25:00 PM
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Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
The Indonesian government is very active in blocking all things related to gambling and this has been done for quite a long time and has become even more intense since there has been a lot of news about online gambling being played by its citizens.

If you want to go to Indonesia, it seems that finding a physical casino is not easy because gambling is not something that can be done openly, you can still gamble but through online casinos and using a VPN.

You will find it easier to find a physical casino in neighboring countries such as Singapore, Vietnamese, and several other countries but Indonesia is not a place where tourists can easily find a physical casino.

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September 22, 2024, 01:02:34 PM
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The Indonesian government need hard work and serious to imposing a ban or blockage of something that illegal in their country. They need to monitor every ISP's in their country and that will not easy to monitor all people who use Internet.
I don't think they should/could do that. That's against privacy. Imagine someone monitoring all the steps that you take and they will just knock on your door to arrest you without any good reason at all.

It's okay if they ban these search engines, websites with pornography, and gambling because that's how it should be done if they want to prevent the rampant number of users who are doing it. They can also monitor the amount of money their countrymen are spending with these bad habits but they cannot directly monitor each of them.
It was said that $20 billion was spent on gambling and I think that's the reason why their government must act fast to stop it but they better do it right and punish those who are offering the service (through banning them), not the users.

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The Indonesian government need hard work and serious to imposing a ban or blockage of something that illegal in their country. They need to monitor every ISP's in their country and that will not easy to monitor all people who use Internet.
I don't think they should/could do that. That's against privacy. Imagine someone monitoring all the steps that you take and they will just knock on your door to arrest you without any good reason at all.

It's okay if they ban these search engines, websites with pornography, and gambling because that's how it should be done if they want to prevent the rampant number of users who are doing it. They can also monitor the amount of money their countrymen are spending with these bad habits but they cannot directly monitor each of them.
It was said that $20 billion was spent on gambling and I think that's the reason why their government must act fast to stop it but they better do it right and punish those who are offering the service (through banning them), not the users.
We do know that government could track out everything considering that information could really be checked out as they pleased but since there are tools on which people could make use to hide their activities
then this what makes it hard for them to monitor everything. Even if we do say about IP tracking then that would be possible but it would really be a very tedious tasks on their part and of course it does
need up resources knowing on the number of citizens then you cant be able to monitor everything and this what makes this challenging. If they have decided on banning it out then as a citizen then you dont have
choice but to obey on it because once you do get caught on violating on things that they had prohibited then you do really know on whats next.

Government does have their own ways on how to implement laws and regulations on which if they do seem just ethical or right for the sake of their citizens then they would really be doing it.
But just like on what everyone is saying on here is that it wouldnt really be something easy or simply to block it completely or 100%.

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You're right; Indonesia has a majority of Muslim population and those will generally adheres to Islamic principles that prohibit gambling. Based on the religion, the Indonesian government have all the rights to prohibit the gambling and its relevant searches etc. I am sure, people who wish to gamble will still find a way to access online gambling sites through VPNs etc.
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I am not encouraging anymore in gambling but for entertainment it's a good way.


VPN can bypass the block but it also leads to blocking our funds cause casinos mentioned that in their terms, people who are from restricted regions are not allowed to gamble so for our own sake it's better not to take that risk cause sooner or later it will get back to us when we have to go through for verification.
When you are gambling to earn money, making profit then it's a problem but when you are gambling for entertainment than I do not think you are going to load the wallet with thousands of dollars and winning ten thousands of dollars. I never made a profit from any gambling platform except losing the deposits quickly LOL

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When you are gambling to earn money, making profit then it's a problem but when you are gambling for entertainment than I do not think you are going to load the wallet with thousands of dollars and winning ten thousands of dollars. I never made a profit from any gambling platform except losing the deposits quickly LOL

Losing money is different from getting blocked from accessing our money due to our ignorance, I am also not made any real money from gambling just only doing it for the experience and there's small hope in ourselves what if we are the next one to win but if it doesn't happens then no worries we can just move on with our loss but imagine we won let's say $1000 with $10 but when we failed in the verification and later we can't able to verify at all for the particular reason will lead to scaring for sure. Cheesy

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But as for you @satscraper, I think in every country I believe there are offline or local gambling place which they gamble offline in a one on one bet which you can just follow up if you find it interesting. But if you can't play such games I guess you can log-in with your online gambling app and continue with your gambling using another country VPN I think maybe it would work.
They just force one mans belief on everyone in their country. Imagine the foreigners who decided to stay there for some time, they will also bt affected by these little decisions made to govern their own people.. sometimes it's just best to let Everyman chose fro him self. Religion is mean to be a choice and my own personal view not something imposed on me by someone who thinks his own life style is what is closest to the maker.. gambling is fun and anyone can gamble if they want placing banned on too many economic needs will only withdraw population from their country..

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imagine we won let's say $1000 with $10 but when we failed in the verification and later we can't able to verify at all for the particular reason will lead to scaring for sure. Cheesy
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In my opinion, the idea of ​​visiting Indonesia to play casino games is absurd. Gambling is strictly prohibited in this country.

A tourist who tries to place bets in a land-based or online casino in Indonesia risks being arrested and spending four years in prison. There are many other countries that are much more tolerant of gambling.

In Indonesia, by the way, not only are local-language gambling sites blocked, but English-language ones as well. The state has taken a course towards a complete ban on gambling in the country (without any exceptions).

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Free VPN services, which could potentially be used to access online casinos, are also actively blocked.

The Indonesian government banned free Vpn services to encourage paid vpn services. In as much as they didn't ban VPN entirely in the country they'll have a means of monetizing VPN providers, which could be the reason behind allowing citizens to pay for subscription, before gambling. Moreover, their rules wouldn't eradicate gambling, but it will reduce online gambling activities in the country.

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September 22, 2024, 03:17:07 PM
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As far as I know, the majority of Indonesians are Muslim, so it's only natural that they block gambling and pornography sites, because they are not in accordance with religious teachings, but as we also know, Indonesia is also a country that is addicted to gambling, so you don't need to worry if you go to Indonesia, you can still gamble secretly, not openly.

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September 22, 2024, 03:58:07 PM
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imagine we won let's say $1000 with $10 but when we failed in the verification and later we can't able to verify at all for the particular reason will lead to scaring for sure. Cheesy
Let me tell you a secret. With some bookmakers when you have a reupdated forum account then they will honor you not to ask for verification because they know that you are using a long years of reputation in their platform and you are unlikely to cheat them, they know you are anonymous too. For them your forum identity is enough.

There can be certain exceptions but for average Joe like someone myself and I don't even use the same proxy on every platform. Wink

Fortunately gambling is not prohibited in my jurisdiction and I never had any issues with verification too on that side I'm too lucky but it didn't favour when it comes to actual betting.

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September 22, 2024, 04:28:05 PM
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Just encountered this news - "DuckDuckGo blocked in Indonesia over ..., gambling search results." which has dropped a bomb on me. I have never been in this country and always thought it is loyal to gambling. But it seems to be not. How does the matter lie at present? I wonder this because of my plans to visit Indonesia for a couple of weeks and when visiting countries for the first time  I commonly show myself  round the local casinos.
Indonesia has been known as a Muslim country that never supported gambling activities and pornographic videos on her citizens.
I think what could make a person or people to go online be searching for something like this could be due to the hardship in the country. I think the government can really help byg creating jobs for the non employed and free loans for business that need expansion.
I don't see anything wrong with gambling but I think the government has gone too far from her obligations in providing the basic amenities that are essential for citizens to fighting against gamblers that are always interested in making some bets to earn profits.

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September 22, 2024, 05:20:38 PM
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The Indonesian government banned free Vpn services to encourage paid vpn services. In as much as they didn't ban VPN entirely in the country they'll have a means of monetizing VPN providers, which could be the reason behind allowing citizens to pay for subscription, before gambling. Moreover, their rules wouldn't eradicate gambling, but it will reduce online gambling activities in the country.
I could not agree with you that free VPNs should be banned to promote paid VPNs. Hence the free VPN has been banned to reduce online gambling. As paid VPN might be traceable by the government through the payment gateway or any other source but for a free VPN there is nothing like that.

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