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August 09, 2024, 07:15:03 PM
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I do think that gamblers who take gambling activities seriously have their motivation come from the amount  they envision and hope to win, hence why they remain persistent in gambling instead of quitting after winning a little.

A gambler with a winning amount in mind, gambles much more and can become easily addicted than a gambler just gambling for fun and without a particular winning amount in mind.

In essence the thought process a gambler focuses on during any gambling activities will determine if such a gambler would gamble much more or lesser than normal and also, if such a gambler would become successful at their gambling endeavors.

What are your thoughts?


Gambling with high expectations is not advisable the game is supposed to be for entertainment and not to get your hopes high on getting money to solve your problems. Anytime I gamble with the mindset of planning to use my wins for something it always ends up going sideways. You can never control the outcome all you have to do is gamble responsibly and don't think about an amount of money that is not in your possession
There are some important bets we do have high expectations on and most time we end up losing the bets not dye to luck but the kind of the expectation and money that was involved could have made us to preferably lose some of these bets. I have been a victim before and I've lost so many bets even more because I was so curious and confident of winning such a bet but ended up losing big with my friends because I was not calm watching what the outcome would look like. I have really learnt how to stay calm even when we are so sure if the outcome of a particular bet. It is good we are always careful to watch how the game would play rather then making a lot of noises.

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August 09, 2024, 07:43:16 PM
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I don't think it's bad for a player to have a maximum winning limit, the problem is when that's your only criteria to stop playing.

Not maximum limit but a winning amount. Maximum limit is completely fine, the problem starts when you start gambling thinking how much you need to win to stop and the farther you are from that point the worse you are mentally and the more pressure you begin to feel. Gambling under pressure is always bad and it's very easy to overestimate your win chances by setting these win amounts.
For instance you want to double your money and will not stop until you do, but you get close to it at 190%, but that number in your mind will keep you going and risking it all for a very small additional win of 10%.

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August 09, 2024, 10:44:05 PM
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There are some important bets we do have high expectations on and most time we end up losing the bets not dye to luck but the kind of the expectation and money that was involved could have made us to preferably lose some of these bets.

What you mean, on a personal level I think it has happened to me too, and they are bets that one says that one cannot and should not lose, even so things happen for a reason, this reminds us that in the casinos we are people who can lose at any moment, and in fact it is only more Likely , that is how things work for casinos, we have to Start from the fact that they have their house advantage and apart from that they are a business, that is something that we can never change, in the case that we do not want to feel that way, then we should put less money in the bets.

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August 09, 2024, 11:08:37 PM
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I'm more comfortable gambling when I know what I'm aiming for, like the amount I'm anticipating to win before even putting my stakes on it. The specificity brings more mind relaxation to me and I can calculate myself properly with my stakes breathing in mind the outcomes.

Gambling with the goal of winning a specific amount in mind is an attractive idea for many, but in reality it is a false and unrealistic idea. Gambling is a game of probability, and there is no guarantee of winning a specific amount regardless of the size of the bet or any such a strategy to be followed.

Focusing on achieving a specific amount while gambling can easily lead to addiction behaviors, where the individual becomes driven by his urgent desire to recover possible losses or make more profits even if reaching that amount in mind. 

It is always advisable to deal with gambling as a hobby, set a limit in advance on the spent amount (better to allocate a specific budget and not exceed it), and the most important one is not to try to recover losses.

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August 09, 2024, 11:11:59 PM
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What you mean, on a personal level I think it has happened to me too, and they are bets that one says that one cannot and should not lose, even so things happen for a reason, this reminds us that in the casinos we are people who can lose at any moment, and in fact it is only more Likely , that is how things work for casinos, we have to Start from the fact that they have their house advantage and apart from that they are a business, that is something that we can never change, in the case that we do not want to feel that way, then we should put less money in the bets.


Gamblers feel this reflexive thought over time. We all know the cons and pros of wagering high amounts, but it won't stop trusting our prediction unconditionally. Players could develop rational reasoning from the brain and individual experience. It's not enough to work with feelings alone. Combining feelings and experience will enable an easy understanding of how gambling works under probability.

Having the probability aspect in mind removes the surprise, mistakes, and frustration of losing. Accepting what we feel can push a player to wager a huge amount, and will end in a high rate of losses. Your advice of reducing the amount we wager is valid for all types of gamblers especially those who can't balance their thoughts and experiences.

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August 09, 2024, 11:39:01 PM
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It is always advisable to deal with gambling as a hobby, set a limit in advance on the spent amount (better to allocate a specific budget and not exceed it), and the most important one is not to try to recover losses.
Is there any advantage to setting gambling as a hobby? Don't you think that may lead to addiction? For me, gambling should never be taken as a hobby because a hobby is addictive. Instead of setting gambling as a hobby, I think regarding it as a source of passive income is much better because that will mean the gambler has a way of settle his bills and surviving and is only using gambling for to get income that has no atom of desperation attached to it. This is exactly how to gamble without fear.

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August 09, 2024, 11:55:30 PM
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I do think that gamblers who take gambling activities seriously have their motivation come from the amount  they envision and hope to win, hence why they remain persistent in gambling instead of quitting after winning a little.

A gambler with a winning amount in mind, gambles much more and can become easily addicted than a gambler just gambling for fun and without a particular winning amount in mind.

In essence the thought process a gambler focuses on during any gambling activities will determine if such a gambler would gamble much more or lesser than normal and also, if such a gambler would become successful at their gambling endeavors.

What are your thoughts?


Gambling with high expectations is not advisable the game is supposed to be for entertainment and not to get your hopes high on getting money to solve your problems. Anytime I gamble with the mindset of planning to use my wins for something it always ends up going sideways. You can never control the outcome all you have to do is gamble responsibly and don't think about an amount of money that is not in your possession
There are some important bets we do have high expectations on and most time we end up losing the bets not dye to luck but the kind of the expectation and money that was involved could have made us to preferably lose some of these bets. I have been a victim before and I've lost so many bets even more because I was so curious and confident of winning such a bet but ended up losing big with my friends because I was not calm watching what the outcome would look like. I have really learnt how to stay calm even when we are so sure if the outcome of a particular bet. It is good we are always careful to watch how the game would play rather then making a lot of noises.
Such expectations should not be kept in mind when gambling. And it is not the expectation that made you lose the bet, perhaps you were carried away by the mindset that you have made the right pick and prediction. You must have heard a lot of persons supporting the predictions and you think since the majority are in syn with this prediction then it is the right one.

Once we start thinking in such ways and not paying attention to what we think and convictions in our bet then we are bound to lose if luck is not on our side.  Sometimes we need to have good expectations, but we shouldn't let it cloud our reasoning and selection when we are gambling if not we may end up choosing the wrong picks and odds.

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August 10, 2024, 01:50:21 AM
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I'm more comfortable gambling when I know what I'm aiming for, like the amount I'm anticipating to win before even putting my stakes on it. The specificity brings more mind relaxation to me and I can calculate myself properly with my stakes breathing in mind the outcomes.

Gambling with the goal of winning a specific amount in mind is an attractive idea for many, but in reality it is a false and unrealistic idea. Gambling is a game of probability, and there is no guarantee of winning a specific amount regardless of the size of the bet or any such a strategy to be followed.

Focusing on achieving a specific amount while gambling can easily lead to addiction behaviors, where the individual becomes driven by his urgent desire to recover possible losses or make more profits even if reaching that amount in mind. 

It is always advisable to deal with gambling as a hobby, set a limit in advance on the spent amount (better to allocate a specific budget and not exceed it), and the most important one is not to try to recover losses.
victory is the main goal of most people who gamble because victory is what is sought after, but it is true what you said that victory in gambling is not easy to get because gambling is a game of probability and luck, so the victory that can be obtained depends on the luck we have, if we do not have a portion of luck then we will never be able to win. but this tends to be ignored by them being confident that they can win for sure.
with those like that tend to only become addicted as you said, the desire to win that is in them of course becomes a motivation for them to continue betting and betting, whether it ends in losing or winning but because of the desire to win they will continue to bet. doing gambling as a hobby in my opinion is also better not, I mean do gambling properly by not making it something that tends to be important or needed, like a hobby. because in my opinion a hobby is something that tends to be important and needed to be done.

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August 10, 2024, 02:44:51 AM
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A gambler with a winning amount in mind, gambles much more and can become easily addicted than a gambler just gambling for fun and without a particular winning amount in mind. In essence the thought process a gambler focuses on during any gambling activities will determine if such a gambler would gamble much more or lesser than normal and also, if such a gambler would become successful at their gambling endeavors.

Having an amount that you want to win in your mind will make you to gamble much more and that is true because it has happened to me before when I gambled because I wanted an amount of money to use for something very important to me that I have already used the money that was meant for that thing for something different. I lost all the capital I had because I did not know when to stop. You can deposit $100 and have in mind that you want to win $500 but you can lose everything despite making $300 profits but just because you want to complete it $500, you will continue to gamble and by then you have already been too involved that you can not stop gambling regardless of what is happening because all you want at the moment is to complete the amount in your mind.
We should decide in advance what amount of money we will gamble with. If the amount is not fixed then we will use the money to gamble without accounting and it will appear that we have spent too much money on gambling without our knowledge. If gambling according to the plan can give loss then it is possible to recover the loss later but if we go outside the plan and only gamble then we will suffer a lot of loss financially. One can dream of earning 500 dollars by gambling with 100 dollars, but many gamblers lose 1000 dollars while earning this 500 dollars, but still they cannot earn this 500 dollars. When the amount is fixed, if we lose that amount by gambling on one day, then we will at least refrain from gambling on that day, so there will be no possibility of us being extra greedy. It has to be accepted that there is no point in losing all the money just because you want to win in gambling.

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August 10, 2024, 02:45:42 AM
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Most gamblers plan to win, betting until they win the bet. Many people do not stop their game even for a short time after winning the bet, but they continue it. Basically in this regard I think because of the excessive greed of all these players they can't stop betting, instead they keep on gambling. And those who do so are certainly in danger, rather, they are sure to face harm in the future. Because we know that winning and losing in gambling should take a break from gambling for a period of time which would be the right decision for a gambler. Moreover, gamblers need to understand that if they cannot stop gambling, then they must face losses at some point.

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August 10, 2024, 05:55:10 AM
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Gambling with high expectations is not advisable the game is supposed to be for entertainment and not to get your hopes high on getting money to solve your problems. Anytime I gamble with the mindset of planning to use my wins for something it always ends up going sideways. You can never control the outcome all you have to do is gamble responsibly and don't think about an amount of money that is not in your possession

I agree with you. Gambling with the thought of winning and making it a goal is a big mistake in thinking. As you said we cannot control the amount of winnings. If someone has lost $100 and then thinks of targeting a win of $150 and stops, believe me you will not really be able to stop spinning your bets. You have to think that gambling will cost you money because it is part of having fun. The winnings you get will be used again in future bets. So stop thinking of earning money from gambling if you are a daily gambler.

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August 10, 2024, 10:51:29 AM
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Most gamblers plan to win, betting until they win the bet. Many people do not stop their game even for a short time after winning the bet, but they continue it. Basically in this regard I think because of the excessive greed of all these players they can't stop betting, instead they keep on gambling. And those who do so are certainly in danger, rather, they are sure to face harm in the future. Because we know that winning and losing in gambling should take a break from gambling for a period of time which would be the right decision for a gambler. Moreover, gamblers need to understand that if they cannot stop gambling, then they must face losses at some point.
Having a plan to win is normal but gamblers needs to realizes that is not easy and many times they will lose their money if they can not controls themselves. Many gamblers lose much money from gambling but that doesn't makes them stop their gambling activity because they still thinks that they can win for some money. If they can not realizes about controlling themselves in gambling, they will still losing their money without winning any money.

If they can win from gambling and can stops their gambling activity, they can control themselves in gambling and holds their greedy not to becomes bigger. Winning for some amount in gambling is something that many gamblers waiting so they must appreciate it by stopping from playing gambling and takes the money. But if they want to win for some money from gambling, they must realizes that will not easy to happen because gambling will not allows them to win easily.

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August 10, 2024, 11:45:32 AM
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Most gamblers plan to win, betting until they win the bet. Many people do not stop their game even for a short time after winning the bet, but they continue it.
That's a foolish assumption from someone who believes that gambling will make them wealthy. It is very unfortunate, but I guess they have to experience it to realize that they are wrong. 
 
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Basically in this regard I think because of the excessive greed of all these players they can't stop betting, instead they keep on gambling. And those who do so are certainly in danger, rather, they are sure to face harm in the future. Because we know that winning and losing in gambling should take a break from gambling for a period of time which would be the right decision for a gambler. Moreover, gamblers need to understand that if they cannot stop gambling, then they must face losses at some point.
Greed, temptation, etc.—it is all about the love of money, and this ends in no good but suffering losses. A true gambler enjoys their life gambling without the hope of winning, but those who aim to win have lost. That is how important it is for them to understand carefully the nature of gambling rather than getting fooled by those influences who say that they easily make money when it is just manipulated. 

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Gambling with high expectations is not advisable the game is supposed to be for entertainment and not to get your hopes high on getting money to solve your problems. Anytime I gamble with the mindset of planning to use my wins for something it always ends up going sideways. You can never control the outcome all you have to do is gamble responsibly and don't think about an amount of money that is not in your possession

Almost any gambler playing gambling wants to win money, as only this brings positive emotions. In my opinion it is impossible to get dopamine or adrenaline if for your gambling session will not be at least one win. If everything was different everyone would play gambling in demo mode and do not spend money. Try to offer to play in demo mode to someone who says he gets pleasure from gambling. I'm sure he will refuse.

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It's a funny idea to set a specific goal for winning at gambling. To me, it sounds like "the more, the better." But our expectations don't always match our capabilities. And the sooner we begin to understand this, the more intact the funds we didn't expect to play with will remain. It is necessary to bet real amounts and not exceed expenses if such goals are not achievable at some point.

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August 10, 2024, 12:05:18 PM
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We all have that crave when we are wanting to gamble and aiming for that amount that are on our minds. It's hard to deal with that when you're totally do nothing but to gamble.

But if you're a busy guy and you have a lot of task to do in your job and within your family, you're having the thought of process that you are not obliged to win that amount and whichever amount you win, you're already happy with that.

That's why all you have to do is to make yourself comfortable with any outcome and win that you make. If not, all you'll gonna do is to make yourself satisfy with either losses or wins.

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It is always advisable to deal with gambling as a hobby, set a limit in advance on the spent amount (better to allocate a specific budget and not exceed it), and the most important one is not to try to recover losses.
Is there any advantage to setting gambling as a hobby? Don't you think that may lead to addiction? For me, gambling should never be taken as a hobby because a hobby is addictive. Instead of setting gambling as a hobby, I think regarding it as a source of passive income is much better because that will mean the gambler has a way of settle his bills and surviving and is only using gambling for to get income that has no atom of desperation attached to it. This is exactly how to gamble without fear.
Addiction does not happen suddenly. It takes time and a positive environment to become addicted. The way we treat gambling, if it's addictive, it's better not to treat it that way. We can take gambling as a hobby but there is no problem if we control ourselves in that position. If gambling is viewed as a source of financial income then the gambler will become more dependent on gambling which should never be the case. A gambler's mind can have a variety of emotions. What amount he bet, how he will spend the money of that bet in his various activities, etc. will be exposed, so gambling should not be done for the purpose of hobby or financial income that makes additive behavior.

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August 10, 2024, 12:30:52 PM
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But if you're a busy guy and you have a lot of task to do in your job and within your family, you're having the thought of process that you are not obliged to win that amount and whichever amount you win, you're already happy with that.

That's why all you have to do is to make yourself comfortable with any outcome and win that you make. If not, all you'll gonna do is to make yourself satisfy with either losses or wins.

Having a target profit amount is actually a curse in gambling. You will keep wager and it might affect your betting pattern depending on the actual condition of your bankroll especially if you are losing too much while your target profit is already moving away due to your losses.

The repercussions is you might increase your bet or worst doing all-in bet just meet your target profit quickly since you are already incurred with losses. Playing freely without specific target profit amount will make you more concentrated on gambling and avoid greedy/risky bets which is the typical weakness of gambler.

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Last edit: August 12, 2024, 04:17:59 AM by Oluwa-btc
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It's just like waking up every morning before you leave for your daily job. You have a target to meet that particular day, and even when you appear exhausted, you will still want to push yourself harder in order for that target to be achieved.
 
That's the same way I picture gamblers who have a specific winning amount target set, just the same way some of us set our wager limit. If they don't hit that number, they will always keep trying over and over again until they eventually lose what they even managed to win.

Exactly how I thought of it to be,when one gambles with a particular winning amount in mind they are invariably working and definitely waiting for their pay as when due..
Like seriously this mindset of some gamblers usually come with a repulsive force cause when you think of a huge sum for a win and then you gamble it didn't show up,you go again, again and again it still didn't show up,what's next!?

You loose now Right and if one could sit down and imagine the losses made all this while trying to get that said amounts in mind,it's enough reason to stop gamble cause the end shall justify it.but sometimes along the line you might hit a jackpots but it's still not advisable to do so,just do your thing and live and let luck find you someday.

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August 10, 2024, 03:20:21 PM
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It's a funny idea to set a specific goal for winning at gambling. To me, it sounds like "the more, the better." But our expectations don't always match our capabilities. And the sooner we begin to understand this, the more intact the funds we didn't expect to play with will remain. It is necessary to bet real amounts and not exceed expenses if such goals are not achievable at some point.

Exactly, as you said that it sounds like "the more, the better", it is a bad idea and will only hurt ourselves in the long run if we bring it or apply it in gambling.
Remember and understand that in gambling your hopes or beliefs will not be able to or will not always be able to change the results in the game, in the end victory will only come when you are lucky.

And I will also say that applying a winning target will only make it easier for us to fall and get carried away, because you will definitely continue to focus on that goal rather than considering various unwanted possibilities, and the impact is that you will actually experience more losses and regret, because if you set a winning target even though for example you have won a number of wins but if the amount has not reached your target then you will continue rather than cashing it out.

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