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August 06, 2024, 01:37:01 PM
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Luck is final determining factor, whatever be the experience. This is true not just in gambling but in every aspect of life. Your hard work can get turned into zero by that small luck factor in a matter of seconds.

Newbies do get lucky but so do the veterans. You can predict when someone is going to get lucky or someone is not. Hence the games are called games of chance. That chance is what people are dying for.

Experience will only save you from spending too much. But if you dont control the habit first, it will not do much.

 
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August 06, 2024, 03:38:11 PM
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No such thing in slots and casino games. Forget about strategy when you are playing them. If you are betting on those games for a long time, you will realize why.
Try to play one slot game for like 5000 times and you will see how they are repeatedly coming back and forth. That means there's a system working beneath all of it which also means they know if you are winning or not.
If it's sports betting then I might agree with a bit of luck and analysis, but it's not.

New gamblers on the other hand have a higher chance of winning. I can tell because I have withdrawn a good amount when I was not a VIP yet. I keep on winning multipliers that are surprising to others and it's all because giving them that could make them stay.
It's a business strategy and since gamblers are known to be greedy, it's either they will stay and keep on betting or withdraw and then go back depositing a few more times to experience the same adrenaline again.

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August 06, 2024, 04:13:29 PM
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The gambler may win some big money in the gambling after some game in the gambling site with some experience.Some claim the winning happened in the slot and blackjack games due to the luck.Day before yesterday,I met my gambling friend who was in gambling over 7 years of time,he said me the game after the experience was based on the tactics and strategy based on the experience.

But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.

the victory obtained is luck, while novice gamblers who act not greedy are a form of learning from other people's experiences. that's what makes novice gamblers finally still able to win and enjoy it, not forcing them to get a bigger win.
even though they are novice players, it doesn't necessarily mean they don't have experience from learning or looking for information first before playing. such gamblers will be gamblers who are careful in making strategies in betting.

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August 06, 2024, 04:13:33 PM
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So far I just believe that no matter what and whenever gambling remains a probability activity that depends on luck regardless of whether you are an experienced gambler or a beginner and I think that is a fact. I understand that experience can give you a lot of knowledge that can indirectly give you a greater chance of winning, especially in some types of bets that can be analyzed, but remember that in the end it still does not guarantee that you will always win.

And if indeed experience is something that can be used as a guarantee to always win, then I think your friend should now be one of the rich people and I hope you can provide at least some evidence that can be shown, but if there is none and your friend does not experience any improvement in his financial situation then I think experience is not something that should be discussed here.

Oh yes I think that if you are experienced then you should have been able to overcome the problem of greed so that you do not have to experience big losses repeatedly.

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August 06, 2024, 04:17:13 PM
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No matter the experience you have in gambling and the number of years that you have gambled, you cannot win any game without luck. Experience is good but luck supercedes experience and that is why you see that a new gambler can win big on a game that he does not have any knowledge on. This is what some gamblers fails to understand about gambling and they will claim thay they are old gamblers, thinking that it is experience and skill that brings win will only make you lose more in gambling because you will keep on gambling and losing thinking you made a mistake in your last bet.

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August 06, 2024, 04:21:10 PM
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I mean it entirely depends on what type of game you're playing.  Same games are all pure luck based, and there's no skill needed to win, at all.  Other games such as say Blackjack or Poker (Texas Hold'em here in the United States being the most popular version) do take a great deal of skill to be good at.  It can either be luck or experience, but even if you're brand new to the game, sometimes people are naturally great at games so I wouldn't call it luck. 

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August 06, 2024, 04:23:12 PM
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A new player might hit a lucky streak in slots or win a big hand in blackjack purely by chance. With experience, you can learn strategies like card counting in blackjack or understand betting patterns in sports betting. These skills can give you an edge over pure chance.

Luck and experience coexist in gambling. Whether you’re a novice or a pro, understanding both aspects enhances your overall enjoyment and potentially improves your odds.

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August 06, 2024, 04:24:15 PM
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Luck or Experience the answer is simply luck this is based on my opinion, WHY? because this is gambling and most of the gamble games is only based on luck lets say you play house game. There is blackjack dice mines slot and etc or I would called machine game and those is only based in luck unless you understand algorithm behind those machine nad know the right time are you going to win.

Experience gambling I don't know friend maybe you can find a tool to predict gamble in sports gambling based on the past game, player and etc but those not 100% accurate and can still be wrong at any time. So my answer is luck is the number one in gambling

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August 06, 2024, 04:29:47 PM
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In my personal opinion, luck matters more than experience, if anything, experience only matters when we want to take part on sport betting or political betting, in those cases years or follow up of sports and politics of the country could make the difference between profits or losses.
In casino games like blackjack, dices, Plinko, in which the choice making is limited and gamblers often needs to press a button to continue to play, experience does not make any difference.
Also, besides experience and luck, there is a different factor I would like people to talk about: bankroll management, if someone does not know how to manage their limited money in the casino does not matter if they have luck or experience, the money will go back to the house.

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The gambler may win some big money in the gambling after some game in the gambling site with some experience.Some claim the winning happened in the slot and blackjack games due to the luck.Day before yesterday,I met my gambling friend who was in gambling over 7 years of time,he said me the game after the experience was based on the tactics and strategy based on the experience.

But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.

It's highly likely that your friend is talking rubbish! Experience in card games, Makes sense! But if you talk about experience in slot machines, I surely have no idea on how it works!

Gambling in majority, is based on luck. I know a lot of people makes money out of gambling, but that is not due to their experience. This is purely because these people know when exactly to stop. You will always see impulsive people lose money in gambling. The experience is only needed to understand when to pull out.

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August 06, 2024, 04:57:09 PM
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In traditional casino games, I would say that there is something called "tricks", you know, something empirical that allows you to be available to make a bet.

Sports betting, another story, just because you know a lot about a game you are not going to be successful, then experience teaches you to manage probability to compensate for the famous @1.5 and in an extended framework of probabilities you can have profits.

Skill games, poker is always mentioned, and secondly BJ, you can still be a guy who is very good, one of those who touch the threshold of genius and be a loser.

Ah, you can define luck; so, this can be positive and negative, I don't know why there is the intrinsic addition that luck is winning, really luck is variance, so just like this is positive or negative and it does not matter how much experience you have, it still screws you up...

Anyway, read up on game theory and don't talk so much to friends like the OP,  Wink  a good author is John von Neuman, by the way an excellent poker player, you have to do research, read up on variance, etc.

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The gambler may win some big money in the gambling after some game in the gambling site with some experience.Some claim the winning happened in the slot and blackjack games due to the luck.Day before yesterday,I met my gambling friend who was in gambling over 7 years of time,he said me the game after the experience was based on the tactics and strategy based on the experience.

But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.
I can't say much about new gambler but what I can say about their winning is that it's still luck, the only thing that brings one closer to winning without winning is predicting, there are some scenario that we might have witnessed by now, when a gambler will predict a parallel games and the first or the middle one will go side ways. From what I have understand so far in bet, that's a bet without luck because if luck is included the bet wouldn't have gone side ways but it would have been won. Some new gambler find luck on their bet even when they didn't predict the bet.

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August 06, 2024, 06:49:05 PM
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No matter the experience you have in gambling and the number of years that you have gambled, you cannot win any game without luck. Experience is good but luck supercedes experience and that is why you see that a new gambler can win big on a game that he does not have any knowledge on. This is what some gamblers fails to understand about gambling and they will claim thay they are old gamblers, thinking that it is experience and skill that brings win will only make you lose more in gambling because you will keep on gambling and losing thinking you made a mistake in your last bet.

So your opinion is purely based on the luck, So what about the people who make at the initial stage of gambling.The luck will play the gamblers in two different way, the gambler will earn more money in the good luck with the experience. But the gambler will make less money as profit in the gambling eventhough you had enough knowledge or experience in the gambling site. The old experience gamblers had loss tgeir funds because of the bad luck times.So my opinion is we should use the luck with the experience to make money.The gambler who loss the game by bad luck also though they made a mistake at the last game and due to less experience.

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For me gambling is a game of luck coupled together with experience. because without expirence it will be difficult to win most games. Just like who is trying something for the first time and who has been doing it for long time can never be thesame. Just like you said greediness is the most reason why the expirenced Gamblers lose. So I think in conclusion I would say some days people win by luck and win by expirence some days too, but greediness is only the thing that makes people don't know if people are wining on either by luck or by expirence.

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August 06, 2024, 07:11:54 PM
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No matter the experience you have in gambling and the number of years that you have gambled, you cannot win any game without luck. Experience is good but luck supercedes experience and that is why you see that a new gambler can win big on a game that he does not have any knowledge on. This is what some gamblers fails to understand about gambling and they will claim thay they are old gamblers, thinking that it is experience and skill that brings win will only make you lose more in gambling because you will keep on gambling and losing thinking you made a mistake in your last bet.

So your opinion is purely based on the luck, So what about the people who make at the initial stage of gambling.The luck will play the gamblers in two different way, the gambler will earn more money in the good luck with the experience. But the gambler will make less money as profit in the gambling eventhough you had enough knowledge or experience in the gambling site. The old experience gamblers had loss tgeir funds because of the bad luck times.So my opinion is we should use the luck with the experience to make money.The gambler who loss the game by bad luck also though they made a mistake at the last game and due to less experience.
Can't really make out any sense on this that you have said, I understand that you are not possibly good with english, maybe you should consider using a translator just for the sake of your readers.

Sim_card is basically right, and what he said also falls inline with what I have previously said on my other comment, gambling experience is only needed in games that is not entirely luck dependent, less say like skill or knowledge based games, but for luck based games, experience doesn't play any role in making a gambler win, the only area experience sure play a role is when it comes to money management, that is, how to manage money in gambling to ensure one does not risk losing more than he or she Is willing to lose in a game, outside of this, one's experience really does not help a gambler win more.

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August 06, 2024, 07:32:49 PM
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The gambler may win some big money in the gambling after some game in the gambling site with some experience.Some claim the winning happened in the slot and blackjack games due to the luck.Day before yesterday,I met my gambling friend who was in gambling over 7 years of time,he said me the game after the experience was based on the tactics and strategy based on the experience.

But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.

Some things need to be made clearer. Slot games are not games that involve skill, they are games based on luck, look for example at this slot machine:



There are only these buttons, how would you create a strategy to beat this slot machine without cheating? When I talk about cheating, I mean opening the slot machine and changing things. If you play honestly on that machine, then you are counting on luck to win, even if you spend 10 years playing on that machine, you will always be counting on luck and not on your experience. By that I mean that in games of chance that depend on luck, it does not matter if people are novices or not, everyone depends on luck.

In the case of blackjack games, they depend on skills, and it doesn't matter if the person is a novice or not, what matters is the person's skill. For example, you can be playing blackjack in a casino for 10 years and a newbie at the casino appears and beats you at blackjack. This is because the newbie at the casino has greater skill at blackjack compared to you.

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August 06, 2024, 07:45:58 PM
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I don't know about that experience part but in casino games only luck is required to win the bets. In sports betting experience and research do have their role but in casino based games it's someone's luck that makes him/her to win the bet or lose it.

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August 06, 2024, 08:16:51 PM
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But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.
I have seen a similar topic being discussed some time ago however it's good that it is up again that way we would have newer perspectives on it. There's beginner's luck. Yes. I have a theory that some casinos know new sign ups and "give" some kind of luck on their first game to have them return. Aside return, the beginners would even recommend the casinos to their friends. I know this my theory may be wrong but it's just what I think about this. And it is not a bad thing because it's a business and they must make money to stay in business.

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August 06, 2024, 08:38:03 PM
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The gambler may win some big money in the gambling after some game in the gambling site with some experience.Some claim the winning happened in the slot and blackjack games due to the luck.Day before yesterday,I met my gambling friend who was in gambling over 7 years of time,he said me the game after the experience was based on the tactics and strategy based on the experience.

But my question is many new gamblers also make the huge money after few games.So the new gamblers made the money by luck or experience.My view on the new people is purely based on the luck,because not have huge experience at the initial stage of game.In this we need to consider some experienced gamblers making huge loss again and again after the huge experience because of greedy.Greedy should be avoided to loss the entire capital loss.Share your opinion based on your experience in gambling games.

Actually i think sometimes it happens as a result of having the experience about how gambling works, you can't just play gamble when you don't even have any idea. is just like a friend of my who decided to give it trial, mean while he knows absolutely nothing about gambling.
 he just decided to go into gambling due to the stories he had about how most people make millions in gambling.

and guess what he has been experiencing lose ever since he started playing this gambling you needed to see his bet list, it was lost lost lost all the way he only have one won ticket in his bet list. I guess luck was on his side that very day because if you take a look at those games that was in that betslip, you will just planly tell him that this is a waste of money because the possibility of him wining the ticket is O. so what I'm saying in essence is that having the experience really matters because if you don't have the experience there's no way you're going to know the stronger team and the weak team.

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August 06, 2024, 08:38:18 PM
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From your first paragraph it was slot game was mentioned and not sport and here this days we have been discussing about slot games. There is no experience in slot games but purely for luck. There are some new comers in gambling win big and it is not because they are very good in gambling but because of the luck in that day. Slot game is computer base and not gambler base so there is no experience in gambling is needed and the only experience needed is to know how to play the games. The huge amount can be won by the two parties. Both the experience and inexperienced gamblers.

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