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August 17, 2024, 01:26:31 PM
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So, it's safe to say that arrogance is tyranny in its embryotic stage?
From my previous post  I related an occurrence where a players became so furious with himself that he had to slam the counters...

Before now, he was paraded and teased on the street as "àbasi ñsa" -  a coined word in my local dialect that translates - "god of the game"..  He only got the fame as a result of wagering on a certain number relentlessly until it paid him wholesomely.
For whatever incessant reasons, this particular gambler could pass through the counters into an area strictly made out of bound for non-cashiers. That only gave him the guts to challenge the owner of the stall after sometime..

There's a saying that "if a handshake advances above the elbow, it becomes a fight "  Do you know of anything else that could make people act that weird? Drop your suggestions...

If he got a nice wholesome payout good for him but this is a gesture that should not be done as gut can either make you or break you and in practice it has broken so many people that this guy gambled with his standard of life.I know I never have such guts as I am not stupid to be gambling in an increase way of betting,after every lost bet increasing the bet as that is fastest path to self destruction.I have learned it the hard way myself as every time I raised the bet I always ended up losing in 99% of the times and only 1% wins,that is a good probability to learn for every one who knows basic math that 2+2=4 and that should be enough for any normal person to stop gambling.I personally have to consider these last 2 weeks very great as I have not gambled a single penny from myself except the bonuses from the casino,I think I am on the right path to stop playing as the probabilities are rigged against us.

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August 17, 2024, 01:37:12 PM
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There's a saying that "if a handshake advances above the elbow, it becomes a fight "  Do you know of anything else that could make people act that weird? Drop your suggestions...
When people are contradicted they become aggressive. In gambling it can be a common situation among compulsive gamblers, as they create an ideal scenario on their minds, where they are going to be successful along a determined gambling session.

However, when reality doesn't meet their expectations, they become irrational, as to lose wasn't a possibility on their minds. Probably as a mechanism of defense, they become enraged and start contesting people around who they think to be guilty somehow for their bad outcomes. They don't blame their unluckiness, rather they blame others for having cheated on them, even if it sounds like an absurd and unreasonable claim.

Besides gambling, this kind of reaction from compulsive individuals is visible in every situations involving competitions. The best you can do if you notice something like this happening is to not engage in any discussions and disputes against the problem individual.

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August 17, 2024, 01:54:53 PM
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That could be right because when we feels that we are more superior than other people, we can underestimates other people because they don't have the same level as us. We can do something that can makes other people angry or feels not right so that can provoke a commotion with other people. That is why we must realizes that we don't have to feels more superior than other people to prevents ourselves become arrogance because we will gets in trouble with other people.

It is better if we still be humble person so we can adapts to any situation and will not make any problem with other people. We must control ourselves and stay calm with any situation so we can be wise if we are in a difficult situation. We have that embryo but we have ability to prevents that becomes bigger and makes us lose controls so we need to be careful when we interact with anyone around us.

That's right, I agree with you. It's not for nothing that they often recall the following rule: "When you go up, never forget about those who will meet you at the moment when you start to go down." Our lives always consist of ups and downs. Every time we fall, we get up, gain experience, and move on, but being very self-confident and ungrateful to what the people around us give us (trust, friendship, affection), there will be more and more of these falls.
One day you can be left alone regretting your arrogance.

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August 17, 2024, 01:56:57 PM
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So, it's safe to say that arrogance is tyranny in its embryotic stage?
He thinks maybe he is Adolf Hitler from Germany or maybe he thinks he is Joseph Stalin from the Soviet Union, maybe he thinks he came to power in the region by carrying out arbitrary actions with anarchists in local gambling places, I clearly don't agree with his actions which are anarchic in a physical casino house, doesn't every casino have security, he should be thrown out and compensated for all the losses he made.

There's a saying that "if a handshake advances above the elbow, it becomes a fight "  Do you know of anything else that could make people act that weird? Drop your suggestions...
The importance of someone when they want to carry out gambling activities must be able to control themselves against the effects of emotional stress that can occur when they experience defeat. Negative things often happen in the gambling arena, such as: mental health, stress, emotions can spontaneously affect themselves, so they can act anarchically in gambling casinos, for this reason it is important to understand and control yourself so that things that harm other people do not happen.

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August 17, 2024, 02:50:59 PM
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For whatever incessant reasons, this particular gambler could pass through the counters into an area strictly made out of bound for non-cashiers. That only gave him the guts to challenge the owner of the stall after sometime..

There's a saying that "if a handshake advances above the elbow, it becomes a fight "  Do you know of anything else that could make people act that weird? Drop your suggestions...

That's not going to happen here in our country as security is tight, and you can be charged if you annoy the operators of the platform, I wonder why they let that happened in their platform; if they can control these people they should be out of business, not only they are annoying the operators, but they are also annoying the gamblers in their platform.

There should be order and peace on gambling platforms; if they want bettors to come into their place, they should impose orderliness to the point that the platform's operators. I wonder why they let that happen on their platform; if they can control these people, they should be out of business. Not only are they annoying the operators, but they are also annoying the gamblers they should hire security personnel to avoid.

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When people play at the same casino or place very often and win, the casinos or the owners of the places where these people play very often and win, ban these people. Now when these people lose in these places, then they can cause confusion sometimes because they are used to the place and have received VIP treatment. They end up forgetting to respect the place and the owner of the place, this happens to people who are very conceited and think they are very skilled in relation to other people. This type of people when they play and lose, they soon destroy something because they do not want to accept that they lost and the level of destruction caused by them tends to be worse if they are in a place where there is VIP treatment.

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August 17, 2024, 08:57:45 PM
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So, it's safe to say that arrogance is tyranny in its embryotic stage?
From my previous post  I related an occurrence where a players became so furious with himself that he had to slam the counters...

Before now, he was paraded and teased on the street as "àbasi ñsa" -  a coined word in my local dialect that translates - "god of the game"..  He only got the fame as a result of wagering on a certain number relentlessly until it paid him wholesomely.
For whatever incessant reasons, this particular gambler could pass through the counters into an area strictly made out of bound for non-cashiers. That only gave him the guts to challenge the owner of the stall after sometime..

There's a saying that "if a handshake advances above the elbow, it becomes a fight "  Do you know of anything else that could make people act that weird? Drop your suggestions...
Somehow there's a default privilege that could come with been a regular customer at a casino to the point where you win games too often and get paid because that way, other customers tend to build their confidence in the casino knowing that if they win at any point, they are getting paid. The problem has always been with some customers abusing the privilege forgetting that it took them awhile to have earned it and as such it can be withdrawn in cases where the owners of d casino sees that such privileges is been abused so much , I have not seen a situation where abuse of such privilege turned violent but I have seen where restrictions where made regardless of anyone due to abuse of the privilege.

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August 17, 2024, 09:05:58 PM
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There's a saying that "if a handshake advances above the elbow, it becomes a fight "  Do you know of anything else that could make people act that weird? Drop your suggestions...

Accept this as my own little suggestion to make regarding the situation, first of all, this can only happen in a physical casino settings whereby its below standard on the casino site, a standard and advanced one may not tolerate for this kind of attitudes because they have bouncers and hefty securities employed to monitors activities going on there, secondly, there may be the only approach of customers are always right checked on him, winning a bet in gambling is not by how desperate we are or display made, sometimes it could just come as when not expected.
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August 17, 2024, 09:25:29 PM
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I doubt it could happen when a gambler is winning.

Yeah, the only thing this might happen is when frustration eats our emotions. He must've been a daily patron which made him think that he could destroy anything just because he spent way too much in that place.
The only way to calm this dude is to arrest him and have him pay for what he has done and it would also be better if they ban them from that premises.

I guess the other reason why a guy could act like this is being drunk or has a mental health disorder because it's going beyond how a human thinks so there must be a problem if the actions aren't normal.

I agree... unfortunately that is what happens with a lot of gamblers, they completely change the way the behave when when they win and then then they start to lose considerable amounts of money in the same casino.
It is easier for them to become friends of the owners of the betting local and even get special treatment from them because of the good wager volume they provide to the shop.

Anyways, It can be a quote weird situation when dealing with people like those, which could be as bipolar on their gambling performance as they can be, stuff like that is what makes it very hard to operste betting houses and also bars/pubs, it is inevitable for people to misbehave under the actions of their own losses or alcohol.

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August 17, 2024, 09:30:25 PM
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Most gamblers that deal with constant aggression when they lose are mostly under the influence of some kind of hard drug or alcohol,  this might alter their attitude and how they react to their losses, some might even end up fighting others if they are in a land based casino while they are others that act based on their emotional state because they lack self control...a gambler should always be disciplined and accountable for his actions and decisions
Why do we chose to always attribute human misbehavor to drugs and other substances, because instead of taking responsibility and accepting our miss deeds we rather cast blame on other things, for a person to display such violent act of distroying things in the casino make a justified pointer of the fact that the individual may have allowed his greed to make him take may be a loan to gamble with and now is at lost and this could trigger aggressive display like this, he may not be abuser of any drug to the extent of allowing it to impier his decision and emotional state of mind.

One thing I am sure of is that, he will be made to pay back for everything he may have destroy in the shop and even get arrested afterwards because it not the fault of the betting agent that he lost it totally his fault.

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August 17, 2024, 09:52:14 PM
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I doubt it could happen when a gambler is winning.

Yeah, the only thing this might happen is when frustration eats our emotions. He must've been a daily patron which made him think that he could destroy anything just because he spent way too much in that place.
That could prolly have been the least on his mind because that, even to an insane person is impossible to conceive...The thing is - this whole thing happened, and he was taken by surprise just like every other person in the room. I was just staring at him and the stronger part of me suggested that he was immediately gonna be remorseful about his actions, but then, his ego never allowed a chance.
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I guess the other reason why a guy could act like this is being drunk or has a mental health disorder[..]
He ain't even a psychopath .... Just a regular casino rat that got overruled for allowing his emotions to control him.

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August 17, 2024, 09:54:56 PM
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So, it's safe to say that arrogance is tyranny in its embryotic stage?
From my previous post  I related an occurrence where a players became so furious with himself that he had to slam the counters...

Before now, he was paraded and teased on the street as "àbasi ñsa" -  a coined word in my local dialect that translates - "god of the game"..  He only got the fame as a result of wagering on a certain number relentlessly until it paid him wholesomely.
For whatever incessant reasons, this particular gambler could pass through the counters into an area strictly made out of bound for non-cashiers. That only gave him the guts to challenge the owner of the stall after sometime..

There's a saying that "if a handshake advances above the elbow, it becomes a fight "  Do you know of anything else that could make people act that weird? Drop your suggestions...
"god of the game " couldn't believe he lost and that's why he had to destroy things first to show his anger Grin. I love this game called gambling Grin, it is a respecter of no one, no matter how professional you may be. Anyone can lose in gambling because it is all luck.The gambler's behaviour is not as a result of his loss alone, he's just too  arrogant and troublesome. Someone who is addressed as "god of the game" should know too that losing in gambling is very normal. Such arrogant gamblers should be banned from gambling so it will deter others who would want to act out of proportion from doing so.

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August 17, 2024, 09:59:13 PM
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"god of the game " couldn't believe he lost and that's why he had to destroy things first to show his anger Grin. I love this game called gambling Grin, it is a respecter of no one, no matter how professional you may be. Anyone can lose in gambling because it is all luck.The gambler's behaviour is not as a result of his loss alone, he's just too  arrogant and troublesome. Someone who is addressed as "god of the game" should know too that losing in gambling is very normal. Such arrogant gamblers should be banned from gambling so it will deter others who would want to act out of proportion from doing so.
Not just that, it was actually a huge disappointment for his fans and street followers..  they witnessed the whole scene from the start, even as he began to lose - just after the endless and relentless chanting and boastfulness... How unlucky he'd been for the night!

Accept this as my own little suggestion to make regarding the situation, first of all, this can only happen in a physical casino settings whereby its below standard on the casino site, a standard and advanced one may not tolerate for this kind of attitudes because they have bouncers and hefty securities employed to monitors activities going on there,
I dunno what you call "bouncers" but this wasn't just a regular casino stall - it was an edifice, a Mega branch, one of the biggest and most equipped facility in the city. We had different sections and rooms for VD games, virtuals, casino games etc... security personnels were always active since we operated 24/7... The boy just lost his mind.
How do you get licensed if you ain't up to standard? Tell me you're not a gambler without telling me..

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August 18, 2024, 11:56:57 AM
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That's right, I agree with you. It's not for nothing that they often recall the following rule: "When you go up, never forget about those who will meet you at the moment when you start to go down." Our lives always consist of ups and downs. Every time we fall, we get up, gain experience, and move on, but being very self-confident and ungrateful to what the people around us give us (trust, friendship, affection), there will be more and more of these falls.
One day you can be left alone regretting your arrogance.
That is why when we still have those who will be besides us when we go down, that will be our lucky because we have those people that still wants to besides us. That will gives us a feeling of grateful because some people will be on our sides and not leave us when we go down. That is a true friends for us and that will difficult to have those people with us.

It is why we don't have to act arrogance to anyone around us because that can make us in trouble someday. We must remember that life is like a tire that can be on ups and down many times. We must trying to be good to other people and not makes any problem with them. Arrogance will gives many trouble to our life and if we don't realizes about that, that will be a matter of time to see our ruins.

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Your story should be a lesson to business owners generally not to be overfamiliar with their customers because it can give the customers the right or entitlement to overstep their boundaries. Business and friendship shouldn't go together and casino or bet shop owners should treat all their customers with the same courtesy of strictly doing business, not allowing friendship to come into it or else their friends or regular customers can take the advantage to overstep their boundaries. I believe that the bet shop owner also have to be blamed for mixing business with friendship or familiarity otherwise no gambler will have the guts to go into restricted areas that is meant for staff only.











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People may act out of the blue in high-stress scenarios or in emotional losses and big wins or losses. In situations of heightened stress, such as gambling or high-stakes competition, a person may feel overwhelmed with emotions and thoughts. Reactions may occur suddenly after a big win or loss in a game because it is an emotionally charged moment. Also, if a person feels threatened or insulted, they may lose their temper and act recklessly as a way of defending themselves or showing defiance when provoked. It is important to appreciate that extreme behavior is usually the result of accumulated stress and pent-up emotions; this can be addressed by seeking support or stress management.

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Thank you for dropping the full gist. When I read your previous post and made my comments on it I knew there was more to it than meet the eyes. I know this your post has shed more light on it. Why this particular Gambler is exhibiting this behavior is because he may have been one of the pioneer customers in that particulars sports bet shop and therefore have become very familiar with the owner the staff and others. This has made him think that he's like a shareholder in the business that he can now almost make decisions in the business. This could be the reason for the arrogance.

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god of the game that becomes furious after losing is no good god, in no way do I agree that even a professional gambler should be 100% certain about the outcome of their bet  because it might not end up the way they have thought of it. Anyone claiming to be an expert must also know that they are not the casino and they can not decide what the result would be and even if they bet on a soccer game, they can not decide if the team will win or lose.

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August 18, 2024, 04:46:22 PM
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For whatever incessant reasons, this particular gambler could pass through the counters into an area strictly made out of bound for non-cashiers. That only gave him the guts to challenge the owner of the stall after sometime..

There's a saying that "if a handshake advances above the elbow, it becomes a fight "  Do you know of anything else that could make people act that weird? Drop your suggestions...
This is not good for the establishment if they have one guy doing that to their shop, What would stop the others from doing the same thing, its better for the establishment to hire security personnel to stop this abuse, all gamblers should follow the right protocol whenever they are on the vicinity of the establishment.

In fact, they can ban these people from showing up in their establishment, I've seen it happen on the gambling platform, and I'm betting he cannot get in unless he shows a promissory note that he will behave.

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August 18, 2024, 06:44:54 PM
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There's a saying that "if a handshake advances above the elbow, it becomes a fight "  Do you know of anything else that could make people act that weird? Drop your suggestions...

Accept this as my own little suggestion to make regarding the situation, first of all, this can only happen in a physical casino settings whereby its below standard on the casino site, a standard and advanced one may not tolerate for this kind of attitudes because they have bouncers and hefty securities employed to monitors activities going on there, secondly, there may be the only approach of customers are always right checked on him, winning a bet in gambling is not by how desperate we are or display made, sometimes it could just come as when not expected.

Golden words. I too think it's a situation of offline casinos. Overreacting may be the reason, but it also may not.

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