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September 08, 2024, 08:51:17 AM
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If you are making a trade and it did not go well better to have stop loss and analyze the situation not all the time making another position like against the market is the best deal, could be there's an instant you will lose more. Still you can revenge with your trade but in a proper way, lets say you lose already your first trade and you get done with your mistake and you will see an opportunity to get back those losses and start again with new position but of course you already analyze the possibility to win with that position well nothing wrong to go with. The only revenge trade not suitable is making a position without proper execution and plan it seems like you are just throwing away your money.
One way to avoid major losses is to analyze the market situation carefully, but sad to say, it is quite challenging for new traders. I think we need to accept the fact that trading is not really the most profitable job for a beginner. Understanding our current position helps us to determine whether we have to sell or buy, or something we need to pause for a while. With the volatility of the market, it has never been easy to make our calls perfectly, or at least right; most of the time it goes wrong. However, as we learn more, we can at least do it right and properly executed; unfortunately, we can't escape from losses. 

Mistakes are terrible, but from that, we also improve and become better. But yes, if we do nothing to correct them, it is still useless, and certainly it will happen again.

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September 08, 2024, 05:51:16 PM
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The reason why some trade lose their money is that; when some people are trading and they definitely experience a losing instead of them to draw back from trading, but they will not till after all the money they have has finish they will come later they regret. 

If you lose in trading, drawing back is not the best option. If you are a trader, losing is something you should consider a normal thing that happens in the market, but if you are consistently losing and you are not gaining any gains from what you are doing, that means you actually have a problem somewhere with your trade. Although we know that even professionals lose in trading, not too much. We know that every business has a risk attached to it. 
 
So, if you are losing too much money in trading, the best thing is for you to calm down and analyse the strategy you use in your trades and also your knowledge because you may not understand the strategy well, so you need to change to the method you will understand well. In order to avoid losing too much money.

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September 08, 2024, 06:17:13 PM
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The reason why some trade lose their money is that; when some people are trading and they definitely experience a losing instead of them to draw back from trading, but they will not till after all the money they have has finish they will come later they regret. 


Someone losing in trading is normal, and it happens even to those we view as experienced traders with proper knowledge. It's not every day that a trader will be making profits. Sometimes, an experienced trader will do their analysis well and think it was correct, but in the end, they may still lose due to a small mistake.

As a beginner in trading, if you are experiencing losses, it doesn't mean quitting trading is the best solution for you. It shows that you may not yet have the proper knowledge about trading. What you need to do in this case is to go back and search for more knowledge. After gaining the required understanding, it is very possible to become a successful trader later.

Let us know that whenever we are facing losses in trading, it is clear that our analysis and strategy are the causes. The best thing to do is to step back, review, and identify the causes of the losses you are facing. Once you have found out, you will have learned, and it will become very unlikely for you to make the same mistake again.let us remember that in everything we do, there will always be challenges.

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September 08, 2024, 09:44:37 PM
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Taking revenge on the market just because you have a loss will eventually lead to a much greater potential loss, I am sure of that because revenge is an action that tends to always be based on emotions where it is quite clear that everything that is done with the drive of emotions will always be bad. And one of the reasons why revenge will actually make you experience a greater amount of loss is because when you trade based on emotion then I think it is clear that it is unlikely for you to make rational considerations before making decisions which in the end are usually taken carelessly and instead lead you to a greater amount of loss.

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September 09, 2024, 05:37:24 AM
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Taking revenge on the market just because you have a loss will eventually lead to a much greater potential loss, I am sure of that because revenge is an action that tends to always be based on emotions where it is quite clear that everything that is done with the drive of emotions will always be bad. And one of the reasons why revenge will actually make you experience a greater amount of loss is because when you trade based on emotion then I think it is clear that it is unlikely for you to make rational considerations before making decisions which in the end are usually taken carelessly and instead lead you to a greater amount of loss.
Investors may retaliate due to excess financial losses in the market which may lead to further losses. It should be to make yourself more cautious and set the initial level for investment like refraining from investing too much and making yourself experienced considering the market conditions. Cultivating the habit of buying from every bearish as this is one of the ways for an investor to get more profit in a short period of time. Impulsive decisions most of the time cause a lot of losses especially for investors so he should be very careful and patiente in making decisions based on emotions. Every time you have the mindset that you have to make a profit, you should withdraw yourself and accept that you may lose money in trading.

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September 09, 2024, 06:17:34 AM
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Taking revenge on the market just because you have a loss will eventually lead to a much greater potential loss, I am sure of that because revenge is an action that tends to always be based on emotions where it is quite clear that everything that is done with the drive of emotions will always be bad. And one of the reasons why revenge will actually make you experience a greater amount of loss is because when you trade based on emotion then I think it is clear that it is unlikely for you to make rational considerations before making decisions which in the end are usually taken carelessly and instead lead you to a greater amount of loss.
Investors may retaliate due to excess financial losses in the market which may lead to further losses. It should be to make yourself more cautious and set the initial level for investment like refraining from investing too much and making yourself experienced considering the market conditions. Cultivating the habit of buying from every bearish as this is one of the ways for an investor to get more profit in a short period of time. Impulsive decisions most of the time cause a lot of losses especially for investors so he should be very careful and patiente in making decisions based on emotions. Every time you have the mindset that you have to make a profit, you should withdraw yourself and accept that you may lose money in trading.
Every trader's mindset is to make profits that is why they engaged themselves into trading and nobody comes into trading with the perspective of losing money while they trade. Even me I can't be so negative that I would lose money while trading, the thing is I have to be courageous and keep my fate boosted to make profit while trading but this will push me to implore new modalities to trade to enable me acquired the required profits needed from the trade I am making.

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September 09, 2024, 07:43:53 AM
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Taking revenge on the market just because you have a loss will eventually lead to a much greater potential loss, I am sure of that because revenge is an action that tends to always be based on emotions where it is quite clear that everything that is done with the drive of emotions will always be bad. And one of the reasons why revenge will actually make you experience a greater amount of loss is because when you trade based on emotion then I think it is clear that it is unlikely for you to make rational considerations before making decisions which in the end are usually taken carelessly and instead lead you to a greater amount of loss.

to be fair, some people recover their money after revenge trading but only happened to very limited amount of people who are lucky enough.

but honestly, it's natural response when we are so mad that the market isn't in our favour and instead causing us huge loss, that impulse to just go all in and try to recover the losses is definitely strong so it's no wonder that newbie always revenge trade, but the veteran knows that there's always second chance, just take it easy, relax and trade again when market is getting better.

personally i've been through this when I lost my long position after BTC dumped to $49k, building back my capital right now and been doing pretty well though still far from recovering completely.

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September 09, 2024, 04:23:25 PM
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Taking revenge on the market just because you have a loss will eventually lead to a much greater potential loss, I am sure of that because revenge is an action that tends to always be based on emotions where it is quite clear that everything that is done with the drive of emotions will always be bad. And one of the reasons why revenge will actually make you experience a greater amount of loss is because when you trade based on emotion then I think it is clear that it is unlikely for you to make rational considerations before making decisions which in the end are usually taken carelessly and instead lead you to a greater amount of loss.

to be fair, some people recover their money after revenge trading but only happened to very limited amount of people who are lucky enough.

but honestly, it's natural response when we are so mad that the market isn't in our favour and instead causing us huge loss, that impulse to just go all in and try to recover the losses is definitely strong so it's no wonder that newbie always revenge trade, but the veteran knows that there's always second chance, just take it easy, relax and trade again when market is getting better.

personally i've been through this when I lost my long position after BTC dumped to $49k, building back my capital right now and been doing pretty well though still far from recovering completely.

Yes, although there is indeed a chance to achieve recovery by trading based on emotions in an attempt to take revenge, but I think it is clear as you said that it only happens to a small number of people, or even just a few of them.
And yes, I understand that emotions are a natural trait in humans as you said, but when we talk about trading, we must have a way to deal with it so that emotions do not occur excessively because trading will always be a risky activity.

With this case, maybe I would say that this is why a trader must have a strong mentality and psychology, not only that, this is also one of the reasons why a trader must have good self-acceptance regarding risk by assuming that losses are a natural result where all traders also experience the same thing.

A beginner is certainly not easy to be in a good situation when they experience this, emotional shocks will definitely happen, but that is normal for a beginner because they are still in the learning stage in forming a strong mentality and psychology to be able to face such a terrible situation without expressing excessive emotions. And another thing is that your experience is something that we can use as an example.

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Every trader's mindset is to make profits that is why they engaged themselves into trading and nobody comes into trading with the perspective of losing money while they trade. Even me I can't be so negative that I would lose money while trading, the thing is I have to be courageous and keep my fate boosted to make profit while trading but this will push me to implore new modalities to trade to enable me acquired the required profits needed from the trade I am making.
I agree with you, we must even be optimistic to be able to get profit from the trading that we do, don't be pessimistic, because if we haven't done anything we are already pessimistic then in my opinion it is better not to do it at all. We must believe in the potential that we have, or in other words we must have self-confidence. However, in the self-confidence that we have, we must also be able to distinguish between self-confidence and greed. Because sometimes it is difficult for us to distinguish between the two, it is easier not to have excessive self-confidence because it can be dangerous for ourselves. Everything must have a measure and that measure is what we must maintain as well as possible so that something unwanted does not happen.

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September 09, 2024, 04:49:41 PM
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Every trader's mindset is to make profits that is why they engaged themselves into trading and nobody comes into trading with the perspective of losing money while they trade. Even me I can't be so negative that I would lose money while trading, the thing is I have to be courageous and keep my fate boosted to make profit while trading but this will push me to implore new modalities to trade to enable me acquired the required profits needed from the trade I am making.
I agree with you, we must even be optimistic to be able to get profit from the trading that we do, don't be pessimistic, because if we haven't done anything we are already pessimistic then in my opinion it is better not to do it at all. We must believe in the potential that we have, or in other words we must have self-confidence. However, in the self-confidence that we have, we must also be able to distinguish between self-confidence and greed. Because sometimes it is difficult for us to distinguish between the two, it is easier not to have excessive self-confidence because it can be dangerous for ourselves. Everything must have a measure and that measure is what we must maintain as well as possible so that something unwanted does not happen.
Knowledgeable traders are more likely to make a profit. They know how to take advantage of volatility and they also know how to observe trends through existing indicators. If traders understand this, they are very likely to generate returns from their trading activities. Being optimistic without being supported by analysis is the same as hoping to win at gambling, winning is described as luck.

Several trading indicators are very important to always observe when a trading session is active. If the indicator has shown good potential for an exit, the trader will sell and take the profit. Likewise when they want to buy or start trading. One of the indicators I mean is RSI.

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September 10, 2024, 05:35:43 AM
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Knowledgeable traders are more likely to make a profit. They know how to take advantage of volatility and they also know how to observe trends through existing indicators. If traders understand this, they are very likely to generate returns from their trading activities. Being optimistic without being supported by analysis is the same as hoping to win at gambling, winning is described as luck.

Several trading indicators are very important to always observe when a trading session is active. If the indicator has shown good potential for an exit, the trader will sell and take the profit. Likewise when they want to buy or start trading. One of the indicators I mean is RSI.
The problem is that most newbies lack experience and still go in too fast, there is nothing that we can do about that. We should consider that it is going to be something that will take a while and I believe that people who know how to trade and deal with it could end up making so much better results and I believe that we are going to end up with something much better as well.

The reality is that we are dealing with traders who make money from this for years now, so experienced ones definitely know that they shouldn't chase after each loss, they just move to next one and that's how they keep making better profits. I believe that we shouldn't really be worried about it, we need to make sure that we deal with something that takes a bit more time.

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September 10, 2024, 05:38:22 AM
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Knowledgeable traders are more likely to make a profit. They know how to take advantage of volatility and they also know how to observe trends through existing indicators. If traders understand this, they are very likely to generate returns from their trading activities. Being optimistic without being supported by analysis is the same as hoping to win at gambling, winning is described as luck.

Several trading indicators are very important to always observe when a trading session is active. If the indicator has shown good potential for an exit, the trader will sell and take the profit. Likewise when they want to buy or start trading. One of the indicators I mean is RSI.
The problem is that most newbies lack experience and still go in too fast, there is nothing that we can do about that. We should consider that it is going to be something that will take a while and I believe that people who know how to trade and deal with it could end up making so much better results and I believe that we are going to end up with something much better as well.

The reality is that we are dealing with traders who make money from this for years now, so experienced ones definitely know that they shouldn't chase after each loss, they just move to next one and that's how they keep making better profits. I believe that we shouldn't really be worried about it, we need to make sure that we deal with something that takes a bit more time.

You are right.
The bigger picture should be in the mind of who may did something wrong while trading.
Otherwise, he could end up with a result that was even worse than the previous one.

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September 10, 2024, 10:39:58 AM
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Knowledgeable traders are more likely to make a profit. They know how to take advantage of volatility and they also know how to observe trends through existing indicators. If traders understand this, they are very likely to generate returns from their trading activities. Being optimistic without being supported by analysis is the same as hoping to win at gambling, winning is described as luck.

Several trading indicators are very important to always observe when a trading session is active. If the indicator has shown good potential for an exit, the trader will sell and take the profit. Likewise when they want to buy or start trading. One of the indicators I mean is RSI.

Knowledge does make a difference but then those who are knowledgeable and have technical knowledge and understanding, they wouldn't trade against the market trends. As you mentioned, if a person is doing technical analysis, they should be able to see when the market is going to go up or down, they would at least have a slight idea based on their knowledge and chart-reading capabilities, in such scenarios, they wouldn't trade against the market even if there is volatility and profit windows because they know the market can burn them in no time.

One needs to be very quick with their entries and exits if they are trying to trade against the market with coins or tokens that are providing small trading windows but if things don't work out well, losses can incur and I don't think any trader would take unnecessary risks when they can make profit at a later time trading with the trend.

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September 10, 2024, 07:56:03 PM
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Knowledgeable traders are more likely to make a profit. They know how to take advantage of volatility and they also know how to observe trends through existing indicators. If traders understand this, they are very likely to generate returns from their trading activities. Being optimistic without being supported by analysis is the same as hoping to win at gambling, winning is described as luck.

Several trading indicators are very important to always observe when a trading session is active. If the indicator has shown good potential for an exit, the trader will sell and take the profit. Likewise when they want to buy or start trading. One of the indicators I mean is RSI.

Knowledge does make a difference but then those who are knowledgeable and have technical knowledge and understanding, they wouldn't trade against the market trends. As you mentioned, if a person is doing technical analysis, they should be able to see when the market is going to go up or down, they would at least have a slight idea based on their knowledge and chart-reading capabilities, in such scenarios, they wouldn't trade against the market even if there is volatility and profit windows because they know the market can burn them in no time.

One needs to be very quick with their entries and exits if they are trying to trade against the market with coins or tokens that are providing small trading windows but if things don't work out well, losses can incur and I don't think any trader would take unnecessary risks when they can make profit at a later time trading with the trend.
Trading against the market trend is really just that like doing suicide on which it would really be always recommended that you should really know on what you should gonna do on a specific market condition on which we know that this is something which is really that relevant when it comes to this aspect.Whenever you do lose up your position or simply having that bad entry on which it would be resulting to negative, then this something that normally give out that kind of impulsive feeling or emotions on which it is really just that normal for someone to be able to experience out. When you do make trading then don't bring out that gambler like mind or behavior because it doesn't just work here on this side or something relevant.On the moment that you do make out some trades then it will really be ideal that you should really know at least on what you are really that doing.Go with the flow and act accordingly on what you should do or basing up on your knowledge towards trading.Profitability will always depends on how well you do handle yourself into this market on which we know that this is something which is really unpredictable and total randomness. Never make yourself being impulsive because this is where people messed up their trading just because of wrong approach and actions been doing.We can't be perfect in terms of trading but doesn't mean that we can't be able to make some good trades.It will really just that matter on how well you are on making trades.

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September 10, 2024, 11:32:37 PM
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We all know how profitable trading can be and how frustrating it can too, but nevertheless never try to get back at the market.
Just because you've lost a lot doesn't mean you next strategy is getting back all your losses on one piece . No!
First of all you have to see to it that you are psychologically prepared to trade, you need to build confidence..
No matter how much you've lost you need to take a break, get your mind off do something that can help build confidence, restrategize
Trade risk free, trade like you haven't had any losses not like a gambler.
A friend of mine who lost hope in trading was advicing some one else , he said " if you wanna go into trading you need to have a family doctor close by"😂
I laughed my eyes out, but in order to avoid the same ordeal he went through I learnt to trade this way, I make sure I bear in mind that no matter the outcome I'm ready for it .
This is how you trade, it's all about composure, belief etc.
Trading is not an easy way to make money.  Many people consider trading platforms as an easy way to make money.  People who consider trading as an easy way to earn money end up losing money on trading platforms.  Here your friend might have lost money most of the time on trading platform which is why he said that.  I am also involved in trading platform I don't trade regularly but I continue with trading most of the time but I understand trading platform can't be too greedy trading with passion.  But if you gain some experience from the trading platform, you can earn money from it.

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September 11, 2024, 03:16:56 PM
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Taking revenge on the market just because you have a loss will eventually lead to a much greater potential loss, I am sure of that because revenge is an action that tends to always be based on emotions where it is quite clear that everything that is done with the drive of emotions will always be bad. And one of the reasons why revenge will actually make you experience a greater amount of loss is because when you trade based on emotion then I think it is clear that it is unlikely for you to make rational considerations before making decisions which in the end are usually taken carelessly and instead lead you to a greater amount of loss.
Investors may retaliate due to excess financial losses in the market which may lead to further losses. It should be to make yourself more cautious and set the initial level for investment like refraining from investing too much and making yourself experienced considering the market conditions. Cultivating the habit of buying from every bearish as this is one of the ways for an investor to get more profit in a short period of time. Impulsive decisions most of the time cause a lot of losses especially for investors so he should be very careful and patiente in making decisions based on emotions. Every time you have the mindset that you have to make a profit, you should withdraw yourself and accept that you may lose money in trading.

When someone experiences a loss and resumes what they are doing, it will be difficult for them to make the right decision on what they are doing and it will be better for them to rest and go back to learn the mistake they have made so as not to repeat it when they try again.
Buying in a bearish condition will indeed give us an advantage when the market condition will be bullish again but we must analyze it first before deciding to buy it, because without making any consideration we can be wrong when deciding to buy the asset which can be detrimental to us after buying it.

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