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September 05, 2024, 07:46:56 AM |
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Sure, unless you were dim-witted enough to not password-protect your wallet and write down your seed when you were creating your wallet, you probably have an offline copy somewhere, but even if you do manage to transfer the coins out later, they are going to place your destination address on a list for sure. They'll only know your addresses if they have (watch-only) access to your wallet. If you're trying to hide the fact that you own Bitcoin, you've failed at this point
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September 05, 2024, 07:54:33 AM |
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They'll only know your addresses if they have (watch-only) access to your wallet.
That would depend on the wallet software itself and whether it leaves around master public keys and addresses encrypted or if they encrypt everything. I think Bitcoin Core for example encrypts just the private keys (but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), and leaves the public keys alone. I don't exactly remember the columns its using but I do know there are a lot of key-related fields.
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I think Bitcoin Core for example encrypts just the private keys (but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), and leaves the public keys alone. I don't exactly remember the columns its using but I do know there are a lot of key-related fields. We're talking about the scenario of hiding the fact that you own Bitcoin. Disk encryption will prevent your wallet from being found. You could even use a hidden encrypted partition. There are countless ways of doing this.
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September 05, 2024, 02:57:28 PM |
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I think that regardless of the fact that there are a lot of fancy methods that could work at customs, it might be best to temporarily store the seed in your memory, especially if we will do a wallet recovery relatively soon after leaving the airport. If someone has a problem remembering 12 words, maybe he could try to remember only 6 of them, and save the other half on a piece of paper that can look like a list of things to buy or something similar.
What I would never do is carry a hardware wallet with you, or have wallets installed on your smartphone or computer, especially if you are traveling to countries like the US, Canada or Australia that have very aggressive security in their airports when it comes to customs, especially if you come from countries that are on their suspicious lists.
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September 05, 2024, 03:14:42 PM |
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I think that regardless of the fact that there are a lot of fancy methods that could work at customs, it might be best to temporarily store the seed in your memory, especially if we will do a wallet recovery relatively soon after leaving the airport. If someone has a problem remembering 12 words, maybe he could try to remember only 6 of them, and save the other half on a piece of paper that can look like a list of things to buy or something similar.
It's very individual. For those who have ADHD or are inattentive, it won't be a reliable solution but those who believe in their mental abilities, they can do it. Btw I have read many times on Bitcointalk that it's not recommended to make yourself dependent on your memory in this case. What I would never do is carry a hardware wallet with you, or have wallets installed on your smartphone or computer, especially if you are traveling to countries like the US, Canada or Australia that have very aggressive security in their airports when it comes to customs, especially if you come from countries that are on their suspicious lists.
I think that OP will be safe if he travels with his computer. If I remember correctly, he wants to move in Europe. I've traveled in EU a couple of times but their customs were always great in my case. I can't imagine any custom asking you to open your PC, then force you to type password and then do a deep scan of your computer files. As far as I know, their priority are guns and drugs, besides that they don't care A friend of mine has migraines and when I visit him in Europe, he asks me to bring one particular NSAID to him. This NSAID I'm talking about is legal and without prescription in my country but illegal in his country (it's an NSAID that's very harsh on the liver) but I never ever had a problem with customs about moving with this medicine. Btw Australia is the harshest place to travel regarding customs checks, but if you don't tell anyone about your Bitcoin holdings, no one will know about it.
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Lucius
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September 06, 2024, 10:08:47 AM |
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It's very individual. For those who have ADHD or are inattentive, it won't be a reliable solution but those who believe in their mental abilities, they can do it. Btw I have read many times on Bitcointalk that it's not recommended to make yourself dependent on your memory in this case. ~snip~
Of course, you should never trust your own memory when it comes to such sensitive information, but if it is something that should be remembered only in the short term, I don't see that it should be a problem for most. However, it is the decision of each individual and everyone should take the risk on themselves when it comes to their digital assets.
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From what I see from several answers, I may not have explained myself well. Going on vacation and carrying less than the legal minimum is not a problem. I was thinking more of moving to another country, and taking the holdings you normally manage with your Hardware Wallet on your laptop or PC.
I mean, carrying 0.01 BTC on your mobile is not a problem but if we are talking about 0.5 BTC that you manage with the HW....
Although I see that this is pretty hypothetical, according to the answers.
I had also thought of taking the seeds written in a book or notebook on several pages, but with invisible ink, so that no way that it will occur to customs agents to search through a book of 300 pages.
If you live in EU and move within EU, then you won't have problem with customs because the only thing they care about are guns, drugs come the next thing. By the way, I like the idea of writing down seed phrases on paper with invisible ink but I wouldn't carry invisible ink with me, I'd only carry a notebook. You can also write things down on supermarket bill and carry that with you in the bag or in the pocket. T-shirt method also doesn't sound bad. I think you have to try many safe methods. If I were you, I would do both, invisible ink and t-shirt method but on top of that, I would also try to memorize 12 words seed phrase. Now you have 3 backups, that would give me a piece of mind in this case. Memorizing isn't hard, especially of 12 words seed phrase but don't do it the day before you fly, do it weeks before your flight. Exercise every day, repeat those 12 words every day for multiple times, for hours and it will be sealed in your mind. Read this 12 seed phrase like it's a song and it will be like a muscle-memory.
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~~~ Using at least two different methods isn't a bad idea and usually easily possible. Having piece of mind and staying relaxed gives confidence and makes you less suspicious when crossing "potentially problematic" customs borders. I agree that memorizing isn't actually difficult, even for a 24 mnemonic recovery words backup. You just need more time to properly learn it and find a technique of learning that suits you personally best. If you want to memorize it as an additional fallback backup, do it indeed weeks or even months ahead. No time pressure! Once you learned it, it's important to constantly and regularly check you remember it correctly. Do not omit this step, it's what keeps it engraved in your wet brain. Whatever fancy methods you choose, verify that each method yields a successful recovery BEFORE you actually relocate and cross borders! Needless to say, do this only in safe environments and understand what you're doing!
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September 08, 2024, 04:51:59 AM |
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Memorizing isn't hard, especially of 12 words seed phrase but don't do it the day before you fly, do it weeks before your flight. Exercise every day, repeat those 12 words every day for multiple times, for hours and it will be sealed in your mind. Read this 12 seed phrase like it's a song and it will be like a muscle-memory.
memorizing is out of the question. it's harder than memorizing a brainwallet. no amount of practice is going to allow to remember it for longer than a few hours if that.
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September 08, 2024, 10:52:16 AM |
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Memorizing isn't hard, especially of 12 words seed phrase but don't do it the day before you fly, do it weeks before your flight. Exercise every day, repeat those 12 words every day for multiple times, for hours and it will be sealed in your mind. Read this 12 seed phrase like it's a song and it will be like a muscle-memory.
memorizing is out of the question. it's harder than memorizing a brainwallet. no amount of practice is going to allow to remember it for longer than a few hours if that.If you have problems remembering 12 words for more than a few hours, it does not mean that this is the case with others. People remember whole pages of text, although they may be talented individuals, but it is far from impossible to remember only 12 words if someone wants to. The thing is that you don't learn all the words at once, you learn them in sequences of, say, 3 words that you then connect into wholes after each sequence you remember.
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Memorizing isn't hard, especially of 12 words seed phrase but don't do it the day before you fly, do it weeks before your flight. Exercise every day, repeat those 12 words every day for multiple times, for hours and it will be sealed in your mind. Read this 12 seed phrase like it's a song and it will be like a muscle-memory.
memorizing is out of the question. it's harder than memorizing a brainwallet. no amount of practice is going to allow to remember it for longer than a few hours if that.If you have problems remembering 12 words for more than a few hours, it does not mean that this is the case with others. People remember whole pages of text, although they may be talented individuals, but it is far from impossible to remember only 12 words if someone wants to. The thing is that you don't learn all the words at once, you learn them in sequences of, say, 3 words that you then connect into wholes after each sequence you remember. yeah and know that if you forget them you lose over 10,000 Euros in btc. frankly I like my ebbed ebay idea better or look at the list I made a few pages ago. 0001. abandon 0002. ability 0003. able 0004. about 0005. above 0006. absent 0007. absorb 0008. abstract 0009. absurd 0010. abuse 0011. access 0012. accident 0013. account 0014. accuse 0015. achieve 0016. acid 0017. acoustic 0018. acquire 0019. across 0020. act 0021. action 0022. actor 0023. actress 0024. actual 0025. adapt 0026. add 0027. addict 0028. address 0029. adjust 0030. admit 0031. adult 0032. advance 0033. advice 0034. aerobic 0035. affair 0036. afford 0037. afraid 0038. again 0039. age 0040. agent 0041. agree 0042. ahead 0043. aim 0044. air 0045. airport 0046. aisle 0047. alarm 0048. album 0049. alcohol 0050. alert 0051. alien 0052. all 0053. alley 0054. 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Send emails to other emails. You fucking clown don't kid me about this year. 0353 = clown 0979 = kid 1799 = this 2040 = year
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September 08, 2024, 12:18:09 PM |
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Memorizing isn't hard, especially of 12 words seed phrase but don't do it the day before you fly, do it weeks before your flight. Exercise every day, repeat those 12 words every day for multiple times, for hours and it will be sealed in your mind. Read this 12 seed phrase like it's a song and it will be like a muscle-memory.
memorizing is out of the question. it's harder than memorizing a brainwallet. no amount of practice is going to allow to remember it for longer than a few hours if that. Why is it out of the question? What's the hard part in memorizing 12 words seed phrase? It's only 12 words. Hell, even if you don't remember them in a correct order, you can still successfully gain access to your wallet within minutes with the help of GPU. Seriously, there is nothing hard in memorizing. If you have never been in touch with educational materials, never learnt anything at school and do only repetitive tasks your whole life with the guidance of other people, you might fail but otherwise there shouldn't be a problem. yeah and know that if you forget them you lose over 10,000 Euros in btc.
If you loss paper or anything where you wrote your seed phrases, you are also losing over 10,000 Euros in BTC. The difference?
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September 08, 2024, 12:20:40 PM Last edit: September 08, 2024, 12:33:19 PM by philipma1957 |
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Memorizing isn't hard, especially of 12 words seed phrase but don't do it the day before you fly, do it weeks before your flight. Exercise every day, repeat those 12 words every day for multiple times, for hours and it will be sealed in your mind. Read this 12 seed phrase like it's a song and it will be like a muscle-memory.
memorizing is out of the question. it's harder than memorizing a brainwallet. no amount of practice is going to allow to remember it for longer than a few hours if that. Why is it out of the question? What's the hard part in memorizing 12 words seed phrase? It's only 12 words. Hell, even if you don't remember them in a correct order, you can still successfully gain access to your wallet within minutes with the help of GPU. Seriously, there is nothing hard in memorizing. If you have never been in touch with educational materials, never learnt anything at school and do only repetitive tasks your whole life with the guidance of other people, you might fail but otherwise there shouldn't be a problem. yeah and know that if you forget them you lose over 10,000 Euros in btc.
If you loss paper or anything where you wrote your seed phrases, you are also losing over 10,000 Euros in BTC. The difference? as I said use the list and write 4 emails with proper words encoding. It is basically only for 12-24 hours time I have a dozen email accounts it is easy to send emails on them embedding 3 words per email. It is more secure than your brain is. now the flaw with my idea is you may not realize that a word is on the list I first said
You fucking clown don't kid me about this year.
when I checked I missed. You fucking clown don't kid me about this year
worse yet checking again I see I missed You fucking clown don't kid me about this year
Still if you check the 3 or 4 emails with the key word sentence ten times over. you should be good. more likely you can do that then remember 12 words with a ton of coins on the line. BTW you could do both. Send 1 email with a sentence with 5 words and only have to memorize 7 words.
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September 08, 2024, 12:30:49 PM |
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as I said use the list and write 4 emails with proper words encoding.
It is basically only for 12-24 hours time
I have a dozen email accounts it is easy to send emails on them
embedding 3 words per email.
It is more secure than your brain is.
For example, take these randomly picked words: acoustic bulb coconut door feed gold man naive pencil repair they wifeRemember four of them: Acoustic bulb coconut door. Repeat these words for hours every day, for a week. Now remember these five (five because I find it personally easy to remember pencil with naive): feed gold man naive pencilNow these three: repair they wife Once you remember them, then repeat these 12 words for hours every day for a few weeks. By repeating so many times, it will be sealed in your brain so hard that you'll find it impossible to forget it. I still remember lyrics that I learnt decades ago when I first started English. By the way, another creative idea for bilinguals is to convert these words in their native language. This idea is especially good if your language isn't widely spoken.
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a blend of memorization and email may be best of both worlds
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yeah and know that if you forget them you lose over 10,000 Euros in btc. That's why you have a backup somewhere in a safe location Send emails to other emails.
You fucking clown don't kid me about this year.
0353 = clown 0979 = kid 1799 = this 2040 = year 0004 = about as I said use the list and write 4 emails with proper words encoding. Someone can figure it out, or you can forget it. This is not how you handle seed phrases securely.
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September 08, 2024, 01:10:42 PM |
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Funny question, I haven't read all the previous posts, just some. take your favorite phrase and compose a short poem and remember it)) Done.
Just a set of random words will fly out of your head at any given time, but if it's some kind of meaningful verse or mini-prose, then I think it can be remembered for the rest of your life without any problems.
But if in fact, then there are a ton of options, they can be invented on the go and there will be no wrong answer anywhere, it is most likely individual, someone is good in literature, someone in mathematics, let him remember how convenient it is for him.
If you have a family, make them learn it too)) In case one of you forgets. Or even better, just write it on paper. You can even show it to other people, no one will even understand that there is something more than just meaning in this poem.
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September 08, 2024, 01:58:23 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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take your favorite phrase and compose a short poem and remember it)) Done.
We talked about this already. Human memory isn't the most reliable for preserving key information. Even if it's a really awesome poem that sticks in your head at first, eventually you'll probably forget pieces of it. It's much better to write it down and keep it safe. You should always have a backup plan.
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September 09, 2024, 07:06:11 PM |
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Even if it's a really awesome poem that sticks in your head at first, eventually you'll probably forget pieces of it. It's much better to write it down and keep it safe. You should always have a backup plan.
I totally agree. If you have something inside your brain there are literally numerous ways to lose it. 1. Just forget it 2. Die 3. Severe brain damage 4. Dementia 5. Getting hit on the head 6. Car accident Neve rely on memory!
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Using encrypted disk and other mobile storage device would have been better but if an traveling airport agent can check your mobile phone apps then they can equally check those devices in their computers to know the kind of softwares and files in your disk or memory cards. Therefore the best way from my opinion, it better you save the seed phrase in a zipfolder and save it in your googledrive or in your Gmail and when you have reached your destination then you extract it write it down and use it to open the Bitcoin wallet and delete it from the GDrive.
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