A dangerous gambling behavior of a gambler

[Davidvictorson]

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

Because the gambler is ready to risk it all. That's both a criminal behavior and a symptom of irresponsible gambling also gambling addiction. The shop owner must have a security at the gate to deter this behavior from others.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

The amount will.bw deducted from their salary. Next time they'll be smart.

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

It's not worth it. The employees should suffer the consequences of their actions.

[Hispo]

Quite surreal story to be honest. Obviously, the guy who defrauded the gambling/bet shop realized about the security flaw of of establishment long ago, realized there were no clear cameras in sight and also noticed the lack of security personnel near the entrance of the establishment, so nobody would have stopped him on time if someone noticed he was trying to run away from the shop.
Definitely, the cashier is at fault for not asking money before allowing that man to continue to gamble in their shop. Probably, the cashier has done the same with other people who were honest enough so they paid their losses once the finished playing, so he got over confident and opened the his window to the chance of him getting scammed and probably having his job at risk because of his recklessness.
When comes to gambling, one truly needs to have the money on hands before even starting the game, one never knows who is the honored person or the one searching to rip people off.

[Agbamoni]

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

Before blaming the cashier which obviously he is the reason why the gambler left the office without paying. The owner of the gambling office poorly managed his business. First, there are no security in the office which means anyone could just walk in there and gamble or rob the office. Secondly, since no human security there was no CCTV. And this is one of the important security system a casino office needs to have to ensure safety of their funds.

Right now, there is no way they can be able to trace the culprit unless the cashier can recognize him outside since he won't dare come back to that same office. These days to start a business is risky and that is why ensuring security in anything we found ourselves doing is important.

[vs2014]

How strange that the man was addicted to gambling and he gambled for profit. He has won and lost a few bets but not everyone stops there. Because the loser will bet again to get his money back and the winner will bet again to win money. The two types are different but they are all addictive gamblers. Anyway coming to your point, if i were the manager i wouldn't fire him. Because if he runs away after going to work then everything will be lost. Stupid acts like not collecting money for that bet will be punished.

[betswift]

How strange that the man was addicted to gambling and he gambled for profit. He has won and lost a few bets but not everyone stops there. Because the loser will bet again to get his money back and the winner will bet again to win money. The two types are different but they are all addictive gamblers. Anyway coming to your point, if i were the manager i wouldn't fire him. Because if he runs away after going to work then everything will be lost. Stupid acts like not collecting money for that bet will be punished.

Yep, I wouldn't do that too.

[darkangel11]

Nothing bad had happened to be honest. It's a free lesson for the cashier, since the guy won and then used that money to continue betting and finally lost it all, so the only money the business has lost is the fee that they should've taken from him. That's how I see it, lesson learned, nobody was hurt, the money lost is nothing they can't make up for without breaking a sweat.
Obviously they will now look at these gamblers more closely. They could for instance install a magnetic lock on the door so that a loser can't simply run away but gets locked in until he pays up.

[betswift]

Nothing bad had happened to be honest. It's a free lesson for the cashier, since the guy won and then used that money to continue betting and finally lost it all, so the only money the business has lost is the fee that they should've taken from him. That's how I see it, lesson learned, nobody was hurt, the money lost is nothing they can't make up for without breaking a sweat.
Obviously they will now look at these gamblers more closely. They could for instance install a magnetic lock on the door so that a loser can't simply run away but gets locked in until he pays up.

It would be great if the lesson would be learned here, as we all should improve on our mistakes rather than repeating them I hope some measures which you described will be implemented eventually.

[dunfida]

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

-If the said bettor do knows that there's no CCTV's installed then there's no way that he could be able to traced out then its really that hard to have that kind of fighting things without
clear evidence on which you dont even know on how that person looks like. Verbal things cant really just that easily accepted.

-As a manager then you cant really be avoid on having that kind of shouting or would be scolding the people under you because this is really that showing that negligence or simply being
that too careless because if he/she had been thinking about security or safety  then he should really be asking the lacked amount and never ever intend to have those assumptions
that then next bet would really be a win.

=Its really that on this aspect, this is why that certain person did decided to ran away because it was really that intentionally that he/she be doing on the time that he had lost that bet.
Well, this would really be a lesson learned for that physical betting place and pretty sure this one wouldnt really be happening again. I highly doubt that certain bettor
would be coming back into this place as if there's nothing happened. 

[lothian]

I've never heard of a betting shop allowing people to essentially gamble on the house, but maybe it's common practice. The guy was probably a regular and im sure with his next pay check will be back, settle the debts, and probably lose more. It's really very sad when someone has an addiction.

[Adbitco]

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

This is actually terrible because if he understood the logics of gambling the first winning could had me him go exit from gambling further.

Then again, for about getting him notified. I will say if he is regular customer then they should be able to know him when he comes except that very day was his first time and it would be hard to track him or even trace him, except there is someone that knows him there he may direct cashier to his home to get him arrested for not paying up his bills.

[Fortify]

it's a long story but I'll try to make it short as I can for a comprehensively.

Yesterday while I was putting together some predictions for a parley bet as the EPL and other leagues  has just kicked off. In the process I started experiencing network hitches problem which I wasn't getting comfortable with. Suddenly another idea erupted in my head, why not just go straight to any of the sports betting shops closer and book these games at once. So I zoomed off.

On getting there with ease I was able to book my games using their computer and taking my ticket. In the brief time I was in the shop I noticed how one of the cashier was addressing another of the cashier angrily (it was later I learned that he is the head cashier). So out of curiosity I couldn't mind my business, I inquired as to what could be the problem why he was talking with such an angry tune on his coworker.

He then told me how a gambler had walked into the shop and played sessions of virtual games worth #32k (in our local currency) and disappeared without paying. I was confused, like how did that happened I asked. He had to go into details explaining that when the strange guy  played his first game he won #18k for which he didn't ask to be paid but continued gambling using the winning cash until he lost it all back to the shop. Out of confidence, the cashier didn't bother requesting for money for the next sessions thinking that after the guy might have been done gambling he will calculate the total loss for payment to be made or he perhaps might get another lucky win in the middle to cover for it in part or whole since he was able to get a win in the first game played. But unfortunately for him, the strange guy had another intention in mind, disappearing at the slightest minute the cashier's attention was diverted from his sight.

I felt dumbfounded by the stupidity of the cashier as I was speechless to say the least, I just had to tell him that the manager of the shop should install a CCTV camera in the shop to prevent future roguery of this nature.

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

This just doesn't happen in any half competent shop and there is pretty much zero chance of it happening in a virtual gaming environment that requires an account to be funded up-front, so the story doesn't make any sense. If it did happen then this business would not last very long at all and "the stupidity of the cashier" is irrelevant, it's a gaping security hole that is bound to get abused repeatedly until they are financially crippled - is the cashier expected to track every customer at all times? Are they supposed to manhandle customers that don't pay but somehow got to play with credit? It doesn't make sense. Regardless of all that, your story states that this person lost their initial deposit of 32k which means the house was up after all this anyway.

[Lida93]

it's a long story but I'll try to make it short as I can for a comprehensively.

Yesterday while I was putting together some predictions for a parley bet as the EPL and other leagues  has just kicked off. In the process I started experiencing network hitches problem which I wasn't getting comfortable with. Suddenly another idea erupted in my head, why not just go straight to any of the sports betting shops closer and book these games at once. So I zoomed off.

On getting there with ease I was able to book my games using their computer and taking my ticket. In the brief time I was in the shop I noticed how one of the cashier was addressing another of the cashier angrily (it was later I learned that he is the head cashier). So out of curiosity I couldn't mind my business, I inquired as to what could be the problem why he was talking with such an angry tune on his coworker.

He then told me how a gambler had walked into the shop and played sessions of virtual games worth #32k (in our local currency) and disappeared without paying. I was confused, like how did that happened I asked. He had to go into details explaining that when the strange guy  played his first game he won #18k for which he didn't ask to be paid but continued gambling using the winning cash until he lost it all back to the shop. Out of confidence, the cashier didn't bother requesting for money for the next sessions thinking that after the guy might have been done gambling he will calculate the total loss for payment to be made or he perhaps might get another lucky win in the middle to cover for it in part or whole since he was able to get a win in the first game played. But unfortunately for him, the strange guy had another intention in mind, disappearing at the slightest minute the cashier's attention was diverted from his sight.

I felt dumbfounded by the stupidity of the cashier as I was speechless to say the least, I just had to tell him that the manager of the shop should install a CCTV camera in the shop to prevent future roguery of this nature.

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

This just doesn't happen in any half competent shop and there is pretty much zero chance of it happening in a virtual gaming environment that requires an account to be funded up-front, so the story doesn't make any sense. If it did happen then this business would not last very long at all and "the stupidity of the cashier" is irrelevant, it's a gaping security hole that is bound to get abused repeatedly until they are financially crippled - is the cashier expected to track every customer at all times? Are they supposed to manhandle customers that don't pay but somehow got to play with credit? It doesn't make sense. Regardless of all that, your story states that this person lost their initial deposit of 32k which means the house was up after all this anyway.

Your kind think they know it all, like they feel they are basking is so much knowledge that they gat to know everything to what makes sense and what doesn't make sense. It is centric that you be objective than using how conditions are interplayed within your immediate environment to generalize how it should be in other places of the world. Probably the story didn't make sense because you didn't allow the sense to sink in you. Gambling shops makes are initial deposit of a 100 to over 200k in our local currency over here for each cashier's account and this also depends on the size and customers patronage they have. But I choose not to go further as am not in the business to convincing anyone against what they've already made up their mind to believe.

[Hirose UK]

Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

Basic reason might be because gambler does not have enough money to pay all the bills for the bets in the game he chooses, but this is funny incident because cashier can be fooled by gambler.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Maybe I will reprimand him and give some advice to be more careful and really supervise every visitor who comes, besides that maybe can add some surveillance cameras in every corner and add employees who are on duty to really monitors.

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

It will be difficult because no one knows the person except the employee who is the cashier in the betting shop, moreover if it is stranger who has never been there before then it is impossible to find him or identify him.

[betswift]

Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

Basic reason might be because gambler does not have enough money to pay all the bills for the bets in the game he chooses, but this is funny incident because cashier can be fooled by gambler.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Maybe I will reprimand him and give some advice to be more careful and really supervise every visitor who comes, besides that maybe can add some surveillance cameras in every corner and add employees who are on duty to really monitors.

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

It will be difficult because no one knows the person except the employee who is the cashier in the betting shop, moreover if it is stranger who has never been there before then it is impossible to find him or identify him.

It's a situation for learning, basically Nobody got hurt, but it's a splinter nevertheless, that should be dealt with eventually.

[Oluwa-btc]

The workers should be blamed but those betting shops are not big enough in a way someone supposed to leave and not got noticed. CCTV camera may not work if the bad person prefer to leave. I have been to betting shops very well, it is about pay the money you want to use for the virtual matches or games and then the agent worker will place the bet for you. Amount won would be given immediately. That is how it is done. Doing it appropriately will be better than CCTV camera.

I am only staying prevention is better than cure. Because with CCTV camera, the person can be known or seen and later be arrested because they saw him on camera, then he has nowhere to run away from the police.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

I will be very angry with the person. I may not even believe him. He he did not obey my instructions which is let them pay before you place bet for them. I may deducted the money gradually from his salary based on our agreement.

Definitely with a Good working CCTV cameras the person should be caught but most of this local bet shop just install non functional cameras to make the place look Good and again such places should always follow up instructions so that the gamblers coming in can stick to it but mostly it's same management staff that defaults and the customers do same too.

So who's  to be blame for this.

[serjent05]

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

The person who gambles without paying and run away is a swindler.  I bet it is not the first time he did it.  I do not think that he is a gamble but rather taking advantage of the naiveness of the gambling shop attendant.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

I woull not burst out of anger, I will deal with it professionally by knowing what the reason that thing happens and point out the problem and how to solve it.  I will give a memo or a warning to the employee without shaming him in the public.

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

If there are witnesses and can remember the physical appearance of the person then yes, it would be great if someone on the bystander or people around that time knows the identity of the person.  But if there is no one noticed that person then I do not think there is a possibility to identify the suspect.

[ethereumhunter]

A store manager must install CCTV in the shop to prevent the same thing happens again. But how that cashier can let that man keep gambling without asking the money. That is strange for me because that cashier works in the sports betting shops so he must make sure that every customer pay with their money before they place their bet. If I am a manager in that store, I will ask him why he did that and if he can't explain what the situation, maybe I will cut his salary to pay the lose in my store.

Angry will not solve the problem so I will not do that instead will find out the truth and if necessary I will find that man who doesn't pay his money. Only the cashier that can identify that man so I will ask him to find with me. Maybe that strange man will return to my shop so I can caught him and ask his explanation and maybe I will asks for help from the police.

[retreat]

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

It is natural to be angry, because what the employee did was quite stupid, but maybe what I did was not to scold him to the point of cursing him, maybe I would reprimand him, give him a warning, and cut his salary until the loss could be resolved. Because in any case the mistake was purely due to his carelessness and he should have been responsible for the mistake, if he was not satisfied then he could resign.

But perhaps in the future, that gambling shops should add CCTV for monitoring and employees should be given education so that they do not believe too much in anything that gamblers say.

[aioc]

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

Some gamblers, especially those who are addicted, will do anything to fool anyone; their addiction blinds them from doing what is right.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

I will assess the performance of the employer; if this is the first time, I will just suspend him for a couple of weeks to teach her a lesson, If she is a repeater of the same offense, then it is time to fire her because the casino cannot keep having a negligent and irresponsible employer like her.

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

Yes of course I'm sure he will go back to try to repeat his cheating, the management can ban him or charge him this is estafa for running without paying

[acroman08]

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

if they were a good employee before the incident, give them a warning but if they are already issues that happened before that involves the employee then fire them.

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

unless someone can recognize the guy, then no. This is why it is extremely important for betting shops to have CCTV. here in my country all the gambling shops that I have been usually have a security guard(with a gun) and CCTV all around the shop.