A dangerous gambling behavior of a gambler

[Lida93]

it's a long story but I'll try to make it short as I can for a comprehensively.

Yesterday while I was putting together some predictions for a parley bet as the EPL and other leagues  has just kicked off. In the process I started experiencing network hitches problem which I wasn't getting comfortable with. Suddenly another idea erupted in my head, why not just go straight to any of the sports betting shops closer and book these games at once. So I zoomed off.

On getting there with ease I was able to book my games using their computer and taking my ticket. In the brief time I was in the shop I noticed how one of the cashier was addressing another of the cashier angrily (it was later I learned that he is the head cashier). So out of curiosity I couldn't mind my business, I inquired as to what could be the problem why he was talking with such an angry tune on his coworker.

He then told me how a gambler had walked into the shop and played sessions of virtual games worth #32k (in our local currency) and disappeared without paying. I was confused, like how did that happened I asked. He had to go into details explaining that when the strange guy  played his first game he won #18k for which he didn't ask to be paid but continued gambling using the winning cash until he lost it all back to the shop. Out of confidence, the cashier didn't bother requesting for money for the next sessions thinking that after the guy might have been done gambling he will calculate the total loss for payment to be made or he perhaps might get another lucky win in the middle to cover for it in part or whole since he was able to get a win in the first game played. But unfortunately for him, the strange guy had another intention in mind, disappearing at the slightest minute the cashier's attention was diverted from his sight.

I felt dumbfounded by the stupidity of the cashier as I was speechless to say the least, I just had to tell him that the manager of the shop should install a CCTV camera in the shop to prevent future roguery of this nature.

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

[Dave1]

I felt dumbfounded by the stupidity of the cashier as I was speechless to say the least, I just had to tell him that the manager of the shop should install a CCTV camera in the shop to prevent future roguery of this nature.

I think this is the cashier's fault, he or she should not involved his emotions and follow protocols for players winning and betting. So yeah, the manager has the right to get furious with his cashier.

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

You just don't know the lengths of what gamblers will do just to continue with their addiction. They are not going to think that they will be arrested or what. All they think is to continue with their gambling as long as they can.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Probably reprimanded, or getting fired, because his/her actions are not acceptable.

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

Gambling world as small, somehow, somewhere, he or she will identified if there is a installed CCTV to get his image specially his face. And we don't know if he has done it before in other betting shops as well. In short this is not the first time that he had done and he might have known that there are no CCTV on that place and so he took his chance.

[danherbias07]

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

1. He found a loophole in that certain casino or whatever it is. I bet that gambler is a patron there and he keeps on coming back until he saw how he could take advantage of them.

2. I will be angry. That's your first reaction to money problems. Why? There's a chance that both of them will be paying whatever is missing. Do you really want to pay for something that is not your fault? I don't think so.

3. Well, like I said, that guy must be coming back and forth there and I guess the neighboring businesses could have CCTV installed in their establishment. They could borrow that and all they need is the time when that certain guy went out.

This is a case where cashiers make mistakes because they trust the person in front of them. Gamblers cannot be trusted especially the addicted ones. It's money and anyone can be blinded by it.

[_act_]

The workers should be blamed but those betting shops are not big enough in a way someone supposed to leave and not got noticed. CCTV camera may not work if the bad person prefer to leave. I have been to betting shops very well, it is about pay the money you want to use for the virtual matches or games and then the agent worker will place the bet for you. Amount won would be given immediately. That is how it is done. Doing it appropriately will be better than CCTV camera.

I am only staying prevention is better than cure. Because with CCTV camera, the person can be known or seen and later be arrested because they saw him on camera, then he has nowhere to run away from the police.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

I will be very angry with the person. I may not even believe him. He he did not obey my instructions which is let them pay before you place bet for them. I may deducted the money gradually from his salary based on our agreement.

[Solosanz]

The sports betting shops in your country has a bad management, the customer need to give the money before able to play, not the other way around. I think this case happened in everywhere, it's risky to let the customer to do whatever they likes but they don't have enough money to pay the bills. The business owner can't do much, it's wasting time to handle this problem, but at the same time they should prevent this case to occur in the future, if not they will ends bankrupt.

[_act_]

The sports betting shops in your country has a bad management, the customer need to give the money before able to play, not the other way around.

This did not happen to the owner of the betting shop but it happened to his employee. What if the employee is lying and just want to get away with the money. But even if the employee is telling the truth, he is the one that should be blamed. Not the betting shop management. I know this type of betting shop, it may not have more than 1 or 2 workers there. When the owner of the shop will employ, he will tell them everything they need to do and also let the workers see how it is done by attending to customer.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

No CCTV? that could be worse thing that a "gambling" platform will not get. We have seen in casinos around the world with high security and CCTV is all over the place. Even a ordinary house now has a lot of CCTV, why not this betting shop? They have a lot of profits for sure as they are into the gambling industry so it doesn't make sense. So the first one to put blame is the owner of the betting shop itself and no one else.

The cashier, it's a failure on his end, it seems that he didn't follow the process of the betting shop. And we all know that if someone in all other business missed  important details, or forgetting key steps, sooner or later it will result in a loss of money and that's why happen here.

[Accardo]

Of course, the stranger will be identified by the cashier who was in the shop. Players who visit gambling shops stay in the same neighborhood where the shop is located. And don't be surprised to see that same player on your next visit to the shop. The minute he left the shop he was in his right mind. On another occasion, he wouldn't know how gravity would take him to the shop to play again. It's just the power of addiction.

[Frankolala]

Firstly, the strange guy is addicted and has being gambling for profit, this is why you see that he win his first bet and lost it back to the casino. It didn't stop there, he continued gambling knowing that he cannot afford to pay which was why he ran away because he was believing he will win back his losses.

The cashier should be the one that is to be punished for such foolish act of not collecting payment for those bets until it accumulated to #36k. It is the cashier that is calling the gambler a stranger but he can identify him.

If I was the manager, I will not fire him but will be deducting the money from his salary till I get all of it back, because if you fire him you have lost it all. Lastly, I will mount a CCTV camera. I will never try such thing because I am a responsible gambler.

[benalexis12]

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

1. He found a loophole in that certain casino or whatever it is. I bet that gambler is a patron there and he keeps on coming back until he saw how he could take advantage of them.

2. I will be angry. That's your first reaction to money problems. Why? There's a chance that both of them will be paying whatever is missing. Do you really want to pay for something that is not your fault? I don't think so.

3. Well, like I said, that guy must be coming back and forth there and I guess the neighboring businesses could have CCTV installed in their establishment. They could borrow that and all they need is the time when that certain guy went out.

This is a case where cashiers make mistakes because they trust the person in front of them. Gamblers cannot be trusted especially the addicted ones. It's money and anyone can be blinded by it.

I agree with what you said: why would I pay for something I didn't do? This is right in my opinion as well. The only thing that is wrong is that there is no CCTV, so it can be abused again and again. There is always no concrete evidence to show.

In this day and age, CCTV is such a trend that no matter where you go, there is one for sure. With the technology we have today, it seems like nothing is impossible; that's all I've seen.

[GigaBit]

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

First of all, they have to face such a situation because of the carelessness of the cashier who was there. I have never experienced anything like this before. Security is must for every gambling company. Especially in that company it is a responsibility to have CCTV cameras and observe every gambler. Although different manpower should be kept for this duty but no action has been taken there. If the management of an organization is accepted with emotion, then there will be loss. The manager or cashier needed to be more careful. Gambler won 18000 no problem. But it has been proved that the company has not especial care on him. Casinos in the developed world are almost everywhere staffed with CCTV cameras to monitor gamblers. Every move of the gambler is watched by the officials of that company.

[michellee]

Many reason why a gambler takes that risks even if he know what is the risks for him. We never know what is his real reason until that man  caught. Maybe that man is greedy and addicted to gambling and still placing his bet even if he do that many times.

I will not yelling or angry to my employee if I see them make a mistake. I will talk with him privately without anyone knows so I can know his explanation. It is not good if we angry to our employee in front of other people.

Installing a CCTV camera in the shop is a good idea because that can record or watch all things happen in that shop. Having a CCTV camera helps the owner to know everything around his store. He can do something if he found something that is an usual in his store and solve the problem.

[coin-investor]

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

I encountered a lot of this kind characters on the gambling shop I'm betting there are many kind of gamblers and the management should be aware of the different modus these gamblers are employing, in the shop I'm betting they always have a weekly meeting to address this because it is rampant on the locality where I'm playing

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Based on the story the staff is not aware of the bad tactics of the gambler so I prefer to just forgive him and have a meeting with all the staff and discuss the many tactics these gamblers are employing to cheat the cashiers

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

I'm sure the gambler have acquittances in the area that the management can ask to identify the culprit, installing a CCTV is mandatory for shops that many customers or clients that's going around, we have a law on this and we have penalties for non compliance.

[iv4n]

Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

Why do people steal, lie, cheat... Many get caught and many learn not to do it anymore, but there are also those who simply use every opportunity to deceive someone or steal something. Even though they were caught many times, beaten, and imprisoned, they still do it... I guess it's in their blood.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

When I was young (20 or more years ago) I worked at a gas station, a man cheated me for about 30 euros. I filled him with fuel and plus I gave him back the change, and he didn't even pay. He convinced me that he had given me money... it was only after 5 minutes of thinking that I checked the cash register and realized that he had cheated me. My mistake, I should have told him to wait and check the register, but I was young and naive. Of course, I had to pay from my own pocket for that mistake. That's how experience is gained...

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

CCTV will stop some people, but not all. Even if you find them what can you actually do? I guess that depends a lot on the country and its laws, here in my country there are many of them. Small or almost no punishments with jail time do not stop them from repeating these acts, even if they get caught for the hundredth time and they go to jail for a while it is nothing. People accustomed to such a life return to the same acts as soon as they are released.

[lovesmayfamilis]

I also think that the lack of CCTV cameras encourages such players to be impudent and avoid punishment. What can be presented to this player, whom you might meet on the street? There are no witnesses, and no evidence, which means he understands that he is invulnerable. In addition, people addicted to gambling often do not think about the consequences; they are driven by excitement and the desire to play. What would I do with that cashier? I would certainly fire him, but first, so that all other cashiers could know the consequences of such "kindness,"  I would deduct from their salaries the amount that the player owes. And yes, cameras must certainly exist in all establishments related to finance.

[Hatchy]

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

I've not heard of a situation where one can gamble without paying first or depositing something. It's strange to me. In my country you have to pay for what ever local bet you want to place be it virtual or sport bet. Though as regards your country I think such things should be improved. I still don't get the relationship with the attendance why he allowed someone to play that way without asking for money. I really don't think it's his first time. There might be other reasons but it was really a careless move by him. There's no manger that would be so calm not to get angry in such case senerio.

[bitbollo]

these approaches are risky and moreover are illegal and must be avoided in all possible cases.
maybe "desperate" gambler will try such activity but it's a real stupid idea that deserve no follow up.

workers that doens't act according company policy should just be fired. if they are unable to follow easy instruction by the company they just need to leave their job (there is also the risk they are "part of the scam"...)

in this case police are an option that can be used to identify guy without CCTV (maybe it can works...)

[EluguHcman]

I have actually experienced such cases before where bettors places bets in the physical gambling shops while payments have not been made but this usually done when the shop attendant is familiar with the gambler probably the familiar gambler is a regular gambler to that particular gambling shop.

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

Such exhibitions are exercises of addicted and irresponsible gamblers who does not even care about their reputations.

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

The sanctions should be on the cashier for the mistake been done.
Even when you catch up with this guy, be aware that you do not have an evidence to proof him so, he may have all right to deny it because it was expected that payment before bet is placed should be made.

[Amphenomenon]

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

He might be having the money to pay but seeing he has a route for an escape he definitely pick that but I see all this as a cause of mispractice in gambling and possibly addiction winning 18k at first try and continuous playing till he lost everything shows how desperate he was hoping to catch a jackpot which turns against him but since he noticed a big lost coming his way, I guessed he opt for the running option even if he did have the money or not.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

It depends how well the employee as been having faults and how business is going because I might just only be angry or ask him to pay a part or all of the money since I won't to tolerate any slackness or see my business crumble.

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

Maybe if the cashier or any other person there at that time might be able to recognised his face then he possibly might be able to run for ever

[I_Anime]

The sports betting shops in your country has a bad management, the customer need to give the money before able to play, not the other way around. I think this case happened in everywhere, it's risky to let the customer to do whatever they likes but they don't have enough money to pay the bills. The business owner can't do much, it's wasting time to handle this problem, but at the same time they should prevent this case to occur in the future, if not they will ends bankrupt.

That's right , no Matter whom the individual claims to be he or she should make payment first before being allowed to gamble in a particular shop, because I believe has this first mission of that individual was successful he , will definitely try such act again may be this time he will try it at a different betting shop . This is the reason why one shouldn't go beyond budgets, as a gambler you know you don't have much money and the little you have left is to sustain you till another , the right thing to do is to not bet or gamble at all that going at there putting yah self at risk due to being addicted to it , for instance that nigga git caught the chances of him getting to jail is pretty high because that's a serious case .