A dangerous gambling behavior of a gambler

[Adbitco]

It’s not unfamiliar to me. In the days when I frequent the gambling shops, looking to make my predictions and stake some bets, I’ve had time to watch some of this sports bet gamblers giving me reasons to see them for an addict from the various behaviors they exhibited at the games.

This was one of the characters I found unusual that the cashiers do allow some gamblers to leverage on. It’s always unsettling for me but these guys don’t give it much concern. With the much crowd that is often observed on the virtual sports gambling, it’s easier to have a gambler run off with the money. So why risk it!

Some of these cashiers truly deserve to learn the hard way.

It's actually unbearable to see that someone would go into gambling shop to gamble and played continuously without even paying was thinking he would win to cover up his lost. But truth be told the cashier didn't even play wise in her role because it's assume there is no law rules and regulations governing them there because I assumed if there were any then she could had demand for the pay before even placing another bet for him.

[$weetne$$]

It might be harsh, but the cashier faces the consequences of her mistakes. It is a lot of money, and if I were the owner, I would not just take it easy like nothing happened. She might not pay the money, but at least she feels how the owner feels about losing it. 

She can pay the money but the owner should not be too harsh on her by allowing her to pay the money in small quantities. She is not earning so much that she can pay at one time. She was careless and she needs to learn a lesson so she can be more careful in the future. The replacement of the money should be taken from her monthly salary until all the debts has been cleared. She need to take her job seriously or she should quit so others that will take the job very seriously will be hired. If she is not being taught a lesson, she might repeat same thing and the shop will keep losing money. Before any gambler is allowed to gamble, they should have paid and not allow them to gamble on credits because at times, people do not know what they are doing when addiction is controlling them.

[Sim_card]

It’s not unfamiliar to me. In the days when I frequent the gambling shops, looking to make my predictions and stake some bets, I’ve had time to watch some of this sports bet gamblers giving me reasons to see them for an addict from the various behaviors they exhibited at the games.

This was one of the characters I found unusual that the cashiers do allow some gamblers to leverage on. It’s always unsettling for me but these guys don’t give it much concern. With the much crowd that is often observed on the virtual sports gambling, it’s easier to have a gambler run off with the money. So why risk it!

Some of these cashiers truly deserve to learn the hard way.

It's actually unbearable to see that someone would go into gambling shop to gamble and played continuously without even paying was thinking he would win to cover up his lost. But truth be told the cashier didn't even play wise in her role because it's assume there is no law rules and regulations governing them there because I assumed if there were any then she could had demand for the pay before even placing another bet for him.

I believe that paying before gambling is common sense and they don't need to write such rules on the wall but will be told to the cashier. She was the one that took her responsibility for granted by allowing a stranger to continue gambling without giving her a dime. The one I have seen was a known gambler that gambles in a particular bet shop, he gambled to pay his bills later amd the owner of the bet shop got him arrested when he refused paying his debt.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

For all these problems, many gamblers now use online casinos to gamble because there is no possibility of conflict between the two parties and if they win, the gambler will automatically get his money and if he loses, his money will automatically go out of the account.

Those gamblers that portrays such a behavior are already aware that if it's on an online casino, they can not have such opportunity to gamble with zero balance and because of such, they will go to a land base casino to express their bad behavior without minding the implications it's going to have on the staffs. The case and explained by OP is going to have a bad effect on the staff because it's her fault to even allow the culprit wager without paying.

[iBaba]

No money, no bet. You have to always get paid before accepting a bet. That stops the problem before it happens.

Would much rather piss someone off for asking to be paid vs being pissed off they skipped out on me. I guess it's different here is the USA as they 100% of the time want the money or they will not take your bet period.

I want to be soft in my approach towards this incident because I know how easy it is for people to get comfortable with one another in places like gambling shops. Most people come to place their bets and have fun, making it easy for people to feel at home with themselves. But my believe is, that should be commonly practiced amongst gamblers and not between gamblers and staff especially cashiers.

You ought to be as professional as possible not to be too comfortable with clients who come to gamble. Taking gamblers as paddies should be ordinarily against one's work ethics as a cashier and if I was the manager I would retaliate to that mistake, not to take away the job from him but to caution him against next time since we ain't running a charity organization.

[rachael9385]

It’s not unfamiliar to me. In the days when I frequent the gambling shops, looking to make my predictions and stake some bets, I’ve had time to watch some of this sports bet gamblers giving me reasons to see them for an addict from the various behaviors they exhibited at the games.

This was one of the characters I found unusual that the cashiers do allow some gamblers to leverage on. It’s always unsettling for me but these guys don’t give it much concern. With the much crowd that is often observed on the virtual sports gambling, it’s easier to have a gambler run off with the money. So why risk it!

Some of these cashiers truly deserve to learn the hard way.

It's actually unbearable to see that someone would go into gambling shop to gamble and played continuously without even paying was thinking he would win to cover up his lost. But truth be told the cashier didn't even play wise in her role because it's assume there is no law rules and regulations governing them there because I assumed if there were any then she could had demand for the pay before even placing another bet for him.

I believe that paying before gambling is common sense and they don't need to write such rules on the wall but will be told to the cashier. She was the one that took her responsibility for granted by allowing a stranger to continue gambling without giving her a dime. The one I have seen was a known gambler that gambles in a particular bet shop, he gambled to pay his bills later amd the owner of the bet shop got him arrested when he refused paying his debt.

Even the cashier in the gambling shop is also at risk, because the gambler that is betting on the games on credit has no guarantee that he is going to win so that he can be able to cover up his gambling depts. But I think that anyone that wants to succeed in casino business should be stricted with it, because many gamblers have the kind of mind that will tell them to gamble on credit and when they lose without winning any round they might not pay. But when if the gambler pay before making his depts, even if he wins or lose it's not if the cashiers business, he or she just gave to pay when the gambler wins.

[Lanatsa]

No money, no bet. You have to always get paid before accepting a bet. That stops the problem before it happens.

Would much rather piss someone off for asking to be paid vs being pissed off they skipped out on me. I guess it's different here is the USA as they 100% of the time want the money or they will not take your bet period.

I want to be soft in my approach towards this incident because I know how easy it is for people to get comfortable with one another in places like gambling shops. Most people come to place their bets and have fun, making it easy for people to feel at home with themselves. But my believe is, that should be commonly practiced amongst gamblers and not between gamblers and staff especially cashiers.

You ought to be as professional as possible not to be too comfortable with clients who come to gamble. Taking gamblers as paddies should be ordinarily against one's work ethics as a cashier and if I was the manager I would retaliate to that mistake, not to take away the job from him but to caution him against next time since we ain't running a charity organization.

Yes, when it comes to work then there would really be those kind of prohibitions or limitations on which this isnt something that should really be done, no matter how close you are on a certain person but still
it isnt really just that right that you would really be having that kind of approach on which same as you said that they arent running a charity organization but rather a business on which of course
it would really be just that understandable that making with those kind of chit-chats will really be that against with those work ethics. As for the manager then it wouldnt be just right that you would really be
firing him right away on which everyone deserves a second chance on which it would really be just that right on giving out some warnings on the things that he had done.
Explaining about on things on what must not be done and let that someone understand so that in next time it wont be happening again.

[yahoo62278]

No money, no bet. You have to always get paid before accepting a bet. That stops the problem before it happens.

Would much rather piss someone off for asking to be paid vs being pissed off they skipped out on me. I guess it's different here is the USA as they 100% of the time want the money or they will not take your bet period.

I want to be soft in my approach towards this incident because I know how easy it is for people to get comfortable with one another in places like gambling shops. Most people come to place their bets and have fun, making it easy for people to feel at home with themselves. But my believe is, that should be commonly practiced amongst gamblers and not between gamblers and staff especially cashiers.

You ought to be as professional as possible not to be too comfortable with clients who come to gamble. Taking gamblers as paddies should be ordinarily against one's work ethics as a cashier and if I was the manager I would retaliate to that mistake, not to take away the job from him but to caution him against next time since we ain't running a charity organization.

When you run a business and you are walking that fine line of being friendly and being an owner, your customers need to know that while you like them, it is still a business. It's not a charity where you can bet without paying until you win. Pay the money, make the bet, and good luck. If you cannot follow that procedure, don't waste your time entering the shop.

[Promocodeudo]

It’s not unfamiliar to me. In the days when I frequent the gambling shops, looking to make my predictions and stake some bets, I’ve had time to watch some of this sports bet gamblers giving me reasons to see them for an addict from the various behaviors they exhibited at the games.

This was one of the characters I found unusual that the cashiers do allow some gamblers to leverage on. It’s always unsettling for me but these guys don’t give it much concern. With the much crowd that is often observed on the virtual sports gambling, it’s easier to have a gambler run off with the money. So why risk it!

Some of these cashiers truly deserve to learn the hard way.

It's actually unbearable to see that someone would go into gambling shop to gamble and played continuously without even paying was thinking he would win to cover up his lost. But truth be told the cashier didn't even play wise in her role because it's assume there is no law rules and regulations governing them there because I assumed if there were any then she could had demand for the pay before even placing another bet for him.

I also think the same, I feel that they lapses is on the cashier side, how will a cashier continue to place between for gambler without collecting the money first, this things has procedures, lets forget that most gamblers are everly ready to do anything to make they gamble as such if they see any loope hole they will capitalize on the lapses to do what they like, although most gambling halls are very rowdy as such it can be confusing sometimes for a cashier to actually identify who has paid or not, thats more reason why there should be many cashier's in gambling halls, it is also advisable for cashier to collect money as soon a game is logged in the system to avoid argument or any kind of miscalculation.
For this to happen, is either the cashier was not given a proper orientation which I doubt if such is possible or she refuse to act according to the rules thats guilding the said firm, be it as it may, all blame should be on the cashier because she failed to do the needful.

[Adbitco]

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

This is actually terrible because if he understood the logics of gambling the first winning could had me him go exit from gambling further.

Then again, for about getting him notified. I will say if he is regular customer then they should be able to know him when he comes except that very day was his first time and it would be hard to track him or even trace him, except there is someone that knows him there he may direct cashier to his home to get him arrested for not paying up his bills.

Yes, but unfortunately the person did not have the understanding that you mean, so instead of cashing out and enjoying it, what happened was that he continued and eventually lost all the total amount that he had previously won. And this is someone who is included in the people who are too greedy and do not realize the risks that lurk.

On the other hand, I am also quite curious about whether it was a new person who came to the store or a gambler who had subscribed or had often bet there, but at first glance I think he might be a new person who came there, because if he was a regular customer then he should not have run away, at least he said something to the cashier like he owed money and came back again someday to pay it because most likely the cashier must have recognized him. Regardless of whatever it is, I think in the end this is a valuable lesson for the cashier to be more vigilant and careful, and of course this is also a lesson for the store itself to improve security.

Cashier is lacking wiseness because I can't see a place where someone would come to gamble and not paying the cashier instead she regularly keep betting on debt while the gambler believe luck would shine and when he noticed that his luck doesn't come as expected he ran away without even paying any to the cashier leaving her devastated. Usually this offense could lead to her being sacked from that local gambling shop.

[348Judah]

We should allow people for whom they were because we can't change them, except they make the decision on their own on what to do, it may also occur to them in some cases especially when we think we are helping them out in a situation but to them is like as if we are making things get more complicated for them, everyone should be able to face the reality of the consequences in their gambling decision, we can't force people against their own wish.

[I_Anime]

We should allow people for whom they were because we can't change them, except they make the decision on their own on what to do, it may also occur to them in some cases especially when we think we are helping them out in a situation but to them is like as if we are making things get more complicated for them, everyone should be able to face the reality of the consequences in their gambling decision, we can't force people against their own wish.

That's true , but same time there's alot of folks at there that most of this post made in this thread as actually helped when comes to gambling wisely or healthy gambling. Though is not easy to change from something you have been doing for long it will definitely take time before the changes will start showing. Most people will definitely change after being thought by experience, and that's one thing you don't wanna learn from because it's way of teaching is never pretty .

[Wakate]

For all these problems, many gamblers now use online casinos to gamble because there is no possibility of conflict between the two parties and if they win, the gambler will automatically get his money and if he loses, his money will automatically go out of the account.

Those gamblers that portrays such a behavior are already aware that if it's on an online casino, they can not have such opportunity to gamble with zero balance and because of such, they will go to a land base casino to express their bad behavior without minding the implications it's going to have on the staffs. The case and explained by OP is going to have a bad effect on the staff because it's her fault to even allow the culprit wager without paying.

A little opportunity can make us to make huge money in gambling that is while we keep seeing gamblers that don't even have funds to gamble looking for where to borrow loan to try their luck because they believe anything can happen at anytime. Gambling is for the strong ones and if we don't belief in what we do, then how for we expect to make money from gambling.  There are so many gamblers that like taking dangerous moves when they want to bet especially using huge amounts of funds to get in games that ha s small probability of one winning or with small odds.

[TelolettOm]

A little opportunity can make us to make huge money in gambling that is while we keep seeing gamblers that don't even have funds to gamble looking for where to borrow loan to try their luck because they believe anything can happen at anytime. Gambling is for the strong ones and if we don't belief in what we do, then how for we expect to make money from gambling.  There are so many gamblers that like taking dangerous moves when they want to bet especially using huge amounts of funds to get in games that ha s small probability of one winning or with small odds.

Yes, it is a small chance. And on the other hand, there is a big chance of defeat waiting too. Gambling is gambling, luck will always accompany. And there is another factor, when the odds have the ability to do many things, including setting the winner, then manipulation will occur a lot. especially in slot machines. It is a game to enrich the owner of the slot or casino.

Like I once told a story about someone whose life and family were completely destroyed (until now it has not been resolved) due to the dangers of gambling addiction. This was purely because of greed, addiction, and his inability to control himself when gambling. So, he was very easily tempted to bet and bet again without thinking long.

[alegotardo]

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

Unfortunately, security cameras do little to solve these problems.
Security cameras are a good option to intimidate and try to prevent crimes from being committed, but once the crime is committed, the camera does not help much. It can be useful as a way to protect the establishment from possible crimes, proving innocence in some scenarios before the courts.

Regarding the situation of guilt, I believe that the cashier is also responsible, because he should have followed the protocol, regardless of the player's situation. Most players will play honestly, but those who will try to act illegally only need an opportunity, a small mistake to be able to commit their crimes.

Regarding the player, he is certainly an addict who no longer thinks about the risks or consequences, all he needs is to continue playing, betting and maintaining the addiction, regardless of what it may cost him.

[Pi-network314159]

I also think that the lack of CCTV cameras encourages such players to be impudent and avoid punishment. What can be presented to this player, whom you might meet on the street? There are no witnesses, and no evidence, which means he understands that he is invulnerable. In addition, people addicted to gambling often do not think about the consequences; they are driven by excitement and the desire to play. What would I do with that cashier? I would certainly fire him, but first, so that all other cashiers could know the consequences of such "kindness,"  I would deduct from their salaries the amount that the player owes. And yes, cameras must certainly exist in all establishments related to finance.

Sincerely speaking the whole schenerio would have been avoided without CCTV camera, if the gambling staff in that shop took money before allowing the bettor to continue betting. I blame the guy who allow someone to keep gambling till his out of fund and he still allows him to play, that is stupidly. As far as I know betting shop doesn't allow customers to play above their budget because they know gambling comes with addiction and if they don't control the Gamblers the Gamblers will be forced to play above their discretion. Story cut short, all this would have been avoided when the staff of the gambling shop saw that the Gambler bankroll which he has won on their system has finished, he should have just stop to book tickets for him.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

Well well, the gambling world is a wild place, specially when it's done physically, man can never or will be very wrong to under-estimate what another man can do, people we place high value on sometimes disappoint us even while looking straight into our eyes.

The same way the dude risked losing his money which he did lost, so also after oweing, he also took the risk of running away without paying, and luckily for him, he succeeded, some persons usually don't care or think too much about repercussions, or after-math effect of their actions, they simply just get up and do what they think they have to do, and that's it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

What has happened has happened, shouting won't bring the dude back, if it's the first time such incident is happening, simply advice the co-worker to be more conscious of customers and careful next time.
But if such thing have happened before and it involves the same co-worker, then deduct the lost money from his or her salary as a way to teach him or her to really be more conscious and careful of such customers.

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

I am not a magician, and do not work in a casino or betting shop, so I believe this question is not for me, so I don't have to answer it since I have none.

[junder]

Yes, it is a small chance. And on the other hand, there is a big chance of defeat waiting too. Gambling is gambling, luck will always accompany. And there is another factor, when the odds have the ability to do many things, including setting the winner, then manipulation will occur a lot. especially in slot machines. It is a game to enrich the owner of the slot or casino.

Like I once told a story about someone whose life and family were completely destroyed (until now it has not been resolved) due to the dangers of gambling addiction. This was purely because of greed, addiction, and his inability to control himself when gambling. So, he was very easily tempted to bet and bet again without thinking long.

I agree with you, in gambling, whatever the type of game and how, luck will still play a role in determining the victory and defeat that can happen to anyone who gambles. In slot games, I clearly think that victory depends entirely on luck, so it makes sense when this one game is said to enrich the casino or slot owner, because it is rare to win, especially with a big win. Someone who is addicted to gambling tends to have a more aggressive nature than usual because their thoughts that only think about gambling make them not care about other things around them, even their own family, so it is not strange if there are cases of families being destroyed because of someone who is already addicted to the family. Besides, whatever gambling they do can change them into a worse person in their behavior if they themselves cannot limit the gambling they do.

[Tmoonz]

it's a long story but I'll try to make it short as I can for a comprehensively.

Yesterday while I was putting together some predictions for a parley bet as the EPL and other leagues  has just kicked off. In the process I started experiencing network hitches problem which I wasn't getting comfortable with. Suddenly another idea erupted in my head, why not just go straight to any of the sports betting shops closer and book these games at once. So I zoomed off.

On getting there with ease I was able to book my games using their computer and taking my ticket. In the brief time I was in the shop I noticed how one of the cashier was addressing another of the cashier angrily (it was later I learned that he is the head cashier). So out of curiosity I couldn't mind my business, I inquired as to what could be the problem why he was talking with such an angry tune on his coworker.

He then told me how a gambler had walked into the shop and played sessions of virtual games worth #32k (in our local currency) and disappeared without paying. I was confused, like how did that happened I asked. He had to go into details explaining that when the strange guy  played his first game he won #18k for which he didn't ask to be paid but continued gambling using the winning cash until he lost it all back to the shop. Out of confidence, the cashier didn't bother requesting for money for the next sessions thinking that after the guy might have been done gambling he will calculate the total loss for payment to be made or he perhaps might get another lucky win in the middle to cover for it in part or whole since he was able to get a win in the first game played. But unfortunately for him, the strange guy had another intention in mind, disappearing at the slightest minute the cashier's attention was diverted from his sight.

I felt dumbfounded by the stupidity of the cashier as I was speechless to say the least, I just had to tell him that the manager of the shop should install a CCTV camera in the shop to prevent future roguery of this nature.

Questions for discussion:
Why would a gambler adventure in  such a risk knowing the embarrassment he would have received or even getting arrested for it.

If you happen to be the manager of that gambling shop what will be your action towards the foolishness of such an employee. Will it just be an angry shout or beyond that?

Do you think there is any measure through which the strange guy could be identified since there was no CCTV cameras stationed in and outside the shop environs?

It is a frequent issue in my countryside of course it needs to be addressed, for the gambler it is a case of being over confidence and attaching so much emotion to gambling and not just for a fun probably he or takes gambling as a major means of income, we should always know our limits and stand by it as a gambler. However, the measures to be taken by the management is to install a CCTV camera just as you have mentioned earlier and for the cashier that has made such stupid mistake, the money should be deducted from his salary so he or she could feel the pain and become more careful and conscious in subsequent times of attending to customers as to avoid future occurrence anf for other cashiers too to learn.

[Litzki1990]

Various gamblers face such problems in physical gambling. I have seen that when a few gamblers sit together and gamble and if one of the two gamblers loses the gamble then the losing gambler refuses to pay his winnings to the person who won the gamble. In this case it can be seen that there is a lot of conflict between the two parties and that issue creates many problems later. There are also some physical gambling establishments that attract gamblers to their casinos to gamble but when the gamblers win and claim huge amounts of money, those gambling establishments refuse to pay. For all these problems, many gamblers now use online casinos to gamble because there is no possibility of conflict between the two parties and if they win, the gambler will automatically get his money and if he loses, his money will automatically go out of the account.

And this is a good plus from the casino as an intermediary. Yes, we pay the casino commissions - direct or indirect, like 0 on roulette. But the casino ensures the honesty of the results and the provision of winnings to players, and this is correct.
This is comparable to cryptocurrency exchanges that honestly conduct P2P, and thanks to this we know that we will not be deceived. Nevertheless, there are always those who want to cheat, but the control of the intermediary works well here too, establishing order in the relations between gamblers/traders.

To avoid the hassle of physical casinos, gambling in online casinos cannot be trusted blindly because not all casinos are reliable. Incidents like this happen regularly where the casino takes all the money from the users and brings down the website. There is no compromise when choosing a casino site when it comes to money security. 

Although it is a bit of a hassle to sign up and gamble in the reputable casinos, I think you should accept those hassles first and gamble in all those casinos because there will be no chance of cheating if you gamble in these casinos. There are some local casinos in many countries who promote their gambling casinos through various content cricketers on Facebook but when the number of users in that casino increases, those casinos cheat the users. 
So it is better to avoid all these casinos.