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Last winter eu uk people suffered.
The eu and uk have so much problems regards energy how they solve it ?
Can the Norway provide enough the resources to euro and UK...?
Will they just print money like grazy and let the inflation go wild ?  
the europe and uk definately will dream about taking the russia over ...im sure they dream about this everyday how nato will go in russia and germany UK france Will own the russian natural resources that's the dream for them i guess.

Off course by power and force NATO can just attack russia and invade ...but this doesn't look nice it will put the eu and nato into bad reputation in the world so they can't behave like this.
The european and uk leaders hope that ukraine could invade russia but it's unlikely happening.

The another way the eu and uk leaders will just accept that they just have to print money ....(But who will buy the bonds of UK and eu ?, only someone will buy who is sure that bonds will making the profit )
The UK and eu can only sell bonds to their own people or buy themselfes by the goverment.
also the UK and EU both of them might need countries who will devalue their own currencies to save GBP and EUR.
situation is sticky in europe and uk russia knows that and china and usa and in order to help uk and eu it needs resourcues but now it's the tough times for everybody and every country might deal more with their own problems.

If we don't have good solution then eu and uk will just let the inflation running wild in eu and uk but even if they are ready to run inflation high they still need Bond buyers but eu and uk bond market is ponzi the top and nobody out of the uk or eu don't want to buy UK and EU bonds.
Off course NATO have dream that russia will make mistake and activate the article 5 so then NATO can instantly attack into russia, but Putin play smart he know all of this situation.
Off course the eu and uk could sell bonds to china or brics nations ...but then they want something more than just bonds they want to have their political powers in UK and EU
Time is running out and eu and uk can't just hope to win of ukraine (the ukraine winning means either start of nato attacking russia or ukraine could take over russia )

The UK and Europe national independent situation is over now it all depends....what are the deals on the table so the foreign countries need to gain something from UK and EU.

So will they buy from far away the LNG ghas.
UK and eu needs help from others that's for sure If the war situation not changing on favoure for ukraine and nato.

btw eu and uk have spent so much money for the war the way it is that UK and EU Will ask help from everywhere If war not solve things on their way.
The UK and EU asking help from china usa and maybe even from africa .....but it all comes for them with BIG expenses ....and some trade deals wich will be not beneficial for UK and EU.
So africa india maybe brazil or china might buy the BONDS of UK and EU but only If they Gain something from UK and EU and in this time ITS not the UK and EU who will tell the rules.
Off course the leaders of UK and EU think that they can just leave the country but now it's difficult for them becouse of Capital moving restrictions a lot brexit and more actions of de-globalism
 (so you make mess you can't just leave you have to solve)
Off course you can choose some extra neurtal locations to live like switzerland and Monaco but then you need a lot money ....and it's not easy expense and you need to leave your home nation and roots wich is not easy always.

All what i said...why it's not told on the news to people because that's how it is and then people can understood better.

The karma existing and some point you someone got pay the price If it's not you then probably the younger people after you Smiley the winter is coming and its the mess ...yes the central Banks can print money but in case they large Bond buyers and they must offer to africa or india or any other countries the good deals ....off course if everything goes with plan about russia ukraine war then it's blessing for UK and EU.

However the international law of war show's that:
If there will be peace and finish of war then each side will get the ownership of  location where they in then the usa and other judgement officials will tell who owns what and where once war stop.

That's why the ukraine want to be in russia as much as possible before the war is over so uirainene can claim some russian assets and land and maybe probably the russian oil gas.

The funny thing is that ....the UK and EU might need to ask help from the russian allies lol ....

So the final conlusion:
The karma really existing...and If you don't pay for your actions then someone from your family or tribe will pay sooner or later.
So we see how everything is interconnected and super selfish actions will just issues instead of peacful cooperation.
That's why there is saying...."you are me and Im you" we all are one and together one and connected even If we don't notice that.
Who you took advanched of today might be the only one who could help you later Smiley
The geopolitical events even show's exacly that.
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August 22, 2024, 12:55:43 PM
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Waging a war with the king of energy wasn’t the most brilliant idea. Ask Boris Johnson for a soluti… d’uh he is gone.

Don’t worry tho

Hopefully Trump will win the elections and the energy prices will come down globally.

This is what I hate about democracy. Some lunatic gets elected for 4-5 years, poops all over the place and then the next guy has to clean all that crap.

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August 22, 2024, 01:38:21 PM
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Last winter eu uk people suffered.
The eu and uk have so much problems regards energy how they solve it ?
Can the Norway provide enough the resources to euro and UK...?
Will they just print money like grazy and let the inflation go wild ?  
the europe and uk definately will dream about taking the russia over ...im sure they dream about this everyday how nato will go in russia and germany UK france Will own the russian natural resources that's the dream for them i guess.

Off course by power and force NATO can just attack russia and invade ...but this doesn't look nice it will put the eu and nato into bad reputation in the world so they can't behave like this.
The european and uk leaders hope that ukraine could invade russia but it's unlikely happening.

The another way the eu and uk leaders will just accept that they just have to print money ....(But who will buy the bonds of UK and eu ?, only someone will buy who is sure that bonds will making the profit )
The UK and eu can only sell bonds to their own people or buy themselfes by the goverment.
also the UK and EU both of them might need countries who will devalue their own currencies to save GBP and EUR.
situation is sticky in europe and uk russia knows that and china and usa and in order to help uk and eu it needs resourcues but now it's the tough times for everybody and every country might deal more with their own problems.

If we don't have good solution then eu and uk will just let the inflation running wild in eu and uk but even if they are ready to run inflation high they still need Bond buyers but eu and uk bond market is ponzi the top and nobody out of the uk or eu don't want to buy UK and EU bonds.
Off course NATO have dream that russia will make mistake and activate the article 5 so then NATO can instantly attack into russia, but Putin play smart he know all of this situation.
Off course the eu and uk could sell bonds to china or brics nations ...but then they want something more than just bonds they want to have their political powers in UK and EU
Time is running out and eu and uk can't just hope to win of ukraine (the ukraine winning means either start of nato attacking russia or ukraine could take over russia )

The UK and Europe national independent situation is over now it all depends....what are the deals on the table so the foreign countries need to gain something from UK and EU.

So will they buy from far away the LNG ghas.
UK and eu needs help from others that's for sure If the war situation not changing on favoure for ukraine and nato.

btw eu and uk have spent so much money for the war the way it is that UK and EU Will ask help from everywhere If war not solve things on their way.
The UK and EU asking help from china usa and maybe even from africa .....but it all comes for them with BIG expenses ....and some trade deals wich will be not beneficial for UK and EU.
So africa india maybe brazil or china might buy the BONDS of UK and EU but only If they Gain something from UK and EU and in this time ITS not the UK and EU who will tell the rules.
Off course the leaders of UK and EU think that they can just leave the country but now it's difficult for them becouse of Capital moving restrictions a lot brexit and more actions of de-globalism
 (so you make mess you can't just leave you have to solve)
Off course you can choose some extra neurtal locations to live like switzerland and Monaco but then you need a lot money ....and it's not easy expense and you need to leave your home nation and roots wich is not easy always.

All what i said...why it's not told on the news to people because that's how it is and then people can understood better.

The karma existing and some point you someone got pay the price If it's not you then probably the younger people after you Smiley the winter is coming and its the mess ...yes the central Banks can print money but in case they large Bond buyers and they must offer to africa or india or any other countries the good deals ....off course if everything goes with plan about russia ukraine war then it's blessing for UK and EU.

However the international law of war show's that:
If there will be peace and finish of war then each side will get the ownership of  location where they in then the usa and other judgement officials will tell who owns what and where once war stop.

That's why the ukraine want to be in russia as much as possible before the war is over so uirainene can claim some russian assets and land and maybe probably the russian oil gas.

The funny thing is that ....the UK and EU might need to ask help from the russian allies lol ....

So the final conlusion:
The karma really existing...and If you don't pay for your actions then someone from your family or tribe will pay sooner or later.
So we see how everything is interconnected and super selfish actions will just issues instead of peacful cooperation.
That's why there is saying...."you are me and Im you" we all are one and together one and connected even If we don't notice that.
Who you took advanched of today might be the only one who could help you later Smiley
The geopolitical events even show's exacly that.


Very interesting point but UK and EU might just buy with goverment funds the bonds and with retirement funds.
Higher taxes and say bye bye your retirement funds.

But that's just temporary solution they have still energy Crisis ...off course Europe is the experimential Union how to solve problems and find smart solution when usa was building up eu after war that was the purpose of Europe USA can test Green energy system in europe If that's works USA will adopt this later.
That's why Europe is ahead of every country with innovation because of test.
You can't test If you tell it's the test ...Smiley
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August 24, 2024, 08:46:41 AM
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UK has enough energy to self sustain, infact it could easily set law to not sell energy on the international market and instead set its own lower domestic prices.. many countries do this

the excuses of energy prices were not real effects on uk energy, they were just allowed to go high due to shenanigans of politicians having their hands in the pockets of energy companies, allowing energy companies to make lucrative profits by using a conflict thousands of miles away as the excuse

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the europe and uk definately will dream about taking the russia over ...im sure they dream about this everyday how nato will go in russia and germany UK france Will own the russian natural resources that's the dream for them i guess.

Off course by power and force NATO can just attack russia and invade ...but this doesn't look nice it will put the eu and nato into bad reputation in the world so they can't behave like this.
The european and uk leaders hope that ukraine could invade russia but it's unlikely happening.


If European countries wanted to capture Russia, NATO troops would already be not only in Ukraine, helping it to defend itself from Russian aggression, but also on the territory of Russia itself, and this war would very quickly end in Russia's defeat. Now the whole world sees Russia's weakness, when it is unable to even defend its territory in the Kursk region and oust the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which have been there for two months already. Moreover, even Russian propagandists point out that almost all of Russia's remaining military power is in Ukraine and the road to Moscow is practically open. If they wanted, the Ukrainian Armed Forces could quickly reach Moscow with even one brigade, let alone NATO troops.

But NATO as a whole does not even want to grant Ukraine the right to strike deep into Russian territory with their high-precision weapons. They are still afraid of escalation in this war.
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Last winter eu uk people suffered.
The eu and uk have so much problems regards energy how they solve it ?
Can the Norway provide enough the resources to euro and UK...?
Will they just print money like grazy and let the inflation go wild ?  
the europe and uk definately will dream about taking the russia over ...im sure they dream about this everyday how nato will go in russia and germany UK france Will own the russian natural resources that's the dream for them i guess.

Off course by power and force NATO can just attack russia and invade ...but this doesn't look nice it will put the eu and nato into bad reputation in the world so they can't behave like this.
The european and uk leaders hope that ukraine could invade russia but it's unlikely happening.

The another way the eu and uk leaders will just accept that they just have to print money ....(But who will buy the bonds of UK and eu ?, only someone will buy who is sure that bonds will making the profit )
The UK and eu can only sell bonds to their own people or buy themselfes by the goverment.
also the UK and EU both of them might need countries who will devalue their own currencies to save GBP and EUR.
situation is sticky in europe and uk russia knows that and china and usa and in order to help uk and eu it needs resourcues but now it's the tough times for everybody and every country might deal more with their own problems.

If we don't have good solution then eu and uk will just let the inflation running wild in eu and uk but even if they are ready to run inflation high they still need Bond buyers but eu and uk bond market is ponzi the top and nobody out of the uk or eu don't want to buy UK and EU bonds.
Off course NATO have dream that russia will make mistake and activate the article 5 so then NATO can instantly attack into russia, but Putin play smart he know all of this situation.
Off course the eu and uk could sell bonds to china or brics nations ...but then they want something more than just bonds they want to have their political powers in UK and EU
Time is running out and eu and uk can't just hope to win of ukraine (the ukraine winning means either start of nato attacking russia or ukraine could take over russia )

The UK and Europe national independent situation is over now it all depends....what are the deals on the table so the foreign countries need to gain something from UK and EU.

So will they buy from far away the LNG ghas.
UK and eu needs help from others that's for sure If the war situation not changing on favoure for ukraine and nato.

btw eu and uk have spent so much money for the war the way it is that UK and EU Will ask help from everywhere If war not solve things on their way.
The UK and EU asking help from china usa and maybe even from africa .....but it all comes for them with BIG expenses ....and some trade deals wich will be not beneficial for UK and EU.
So africa india maybe brazil or china might buy the BONDS of UK and EU but only If they Gain something from UK and EU and in this time ITS not the UK and EU who will tell the rules.
Off course the leaders of UK and EU think that they can just leave the country but now it's difficult for them becouse of Capital moving restrictions a lot brexit and more actions of de-globalism
 (so you make mess you can't just leave you have to solve)
Off course you can choose some extra neurtal locations to live like switzerland and Monaco but then you need a lot money ....and it's not easy expense and you need to leave your home nation and roots wich is not easy always.

All what i said...why it's not told on the news to people because that's how it is and then people can understood better.

The karma existing and some point you someone got pay the price If it's not you then probably the younger people after you Smiley the winter is coming and its the mess ...yes the central Banks can print money but in case they large Bond buyers and they must offer to africa or india or any other countries the good deals ....off course if everything goes with plan about russia ukraine war then it's blessing for UK and EU.

However the international law of war show's that:
If there will be peace and finish of war then each side will get the ownership of  location where they in then the usa and other judgement officials will tell who owns what and where once war stop.

That's why the ukraine want to be in russia as much as possible before the war is over so uirainene can claim some russian assets and land and maybe probably the russian oil gas.

The funny thing is that ....the UK and EU might need to ask help from the russian allies lol ....

So the final conlusion:
The karma really existing...and If you don't pay for your actions then someone from your family or tribe will pay sooner or later.
So we see how everything is interconnected and super selfish actions will just issues instead of peacful cooperation.
That's why there is saying...."you are me and Im you" we all are one and together one and connected even If we don't notice that.
Who you took advanched of today might be the only one who could help you later Smiley
The geopolitical events even show's exacly that.

You have advanced some very interesting and quite detailed ideas concerning the current national political and economic challenges of Europe, the United Kingdom, and the current national, political, and economic challenges. Indeed, these regions have big challenges related to energy, inflation rates, and geopolitical battles.

This is very serious, an energy supply from countries like Norway, alongside the capability to withdraw money for solving economic problems. Norway is one of the most vital energy suppliers. However, it may not suffice for Europe and the UK alone, taking into consideration the present worldwide pressure put on energy resources. Printing money can solve problems but leads to inflation among ordinary people.

Your comments We can see rather clearly how those economic and geographic decisions fall most heavily upon countries that are weaker or lower-income. The difference has also tended to be increased in the past through various crises-economic and political. The lucky ones will be the ones that bear the most scars.

Your explanation of the fact that both the EU and the UK can rely either on foreign investors or adjust economic policy in order to treat debt and recession is a reflection of the nature of world economic integration. You pointed out an important thing: international relations and economic systems can be used for complex trade negotiations and agreements. Countries like China and BRICS can ask for better terms at the expense of support.

Geopolitically, it is bright that the situation of Ukraine and its implications for Russia, and in broader terms for NATO and international security, has come to the center of discussion in rebalancing powers. The quest for good governance and international diplomacy will, therefore, determine the outcomes and impacts on the economy through these conflicts.


the europe and uk definately will dream about taking the russia over ...im sure they dream about this everyday how nato will go in russia and germany UK france Will own the russian natural resources that's the dream for them i guess.

Off course by power and force NATO can just attack russia and invade ...but this doesn't look nice it will put the eu and nato into bad reputation in the world so they can't behave like this.
The european and uk leaders hope that ukraine could invade russia but it's unlikely happening.


If European countries wanted to capture Russia, NATO troops would already be not only in Ukraine, helping it to defend itself from Russian aggression, but also on the territory of Russia itself, and this war would very quickly end in Russia's defeat. Now the whole world sees Russia's weakness, when it is unable to even defend its territory in the Kursk region and oust the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which have been there for two months already. Moreover, even Russian propagandists point out that almost all of Russia's remaining military power is in Ukraine and the road to Moscow is practically open. If they wanted, the Ukrainian Armed Forces could quickly reach Moscow with even one brigade, let alone NATO troops.

But NATO as a whole does not even want to grant Ukraine the right to strike deep into Russian territory with their high-precision weapons. They are still afraid of escalation in this war.

You bring up some very interesting points about the current military and geopolitical situation in Ukraine and Russia. Clearly, the situation on the ground is complex. There are some important technical considerations, as well as policy ones.

A notion of more direct action by NATO, or of Ukraine's potential for serious gains, is decidedly counterproductive. I think such arguments remain controversial among analysts and policy decision makers. Embora's frustration with the speed and extent of military aid is easily evident. But at the same time, NATO's warning reflects a broader strategy aimed at avoiding escalation.

Of course, there are limits to how far the Ukrainian army can fight to deter Russian aggression. It must have something to do with the delicate balance that NATO and its allies face, how to get the most support to Ukraine? and at the same time It must not take actions that might encourage an increase in existing capabilities.

But this is clearly a military challenge to Russia. However, the situation is volatile and multifaceted, such as complex international diplomacy. possibility of misunderstanding and unpredictable conflicts Therefore, decisions can be made only with extreme caution..

Your words demonstrate a certain tension between satisfying the defense needs of Ukraine and facing consequences from military consolidation. The situation requires restraint. It supports Ukraine if it must refrain from open conflict with Russia. This could have grave implications.

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September 08, 2024, 12:02:45 PM
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You are right that in Europe we suffered the effects of the increase in energy prices last year because of the war, but it wasn't life threatening precisely and it has also happened with many other goods that have become more expensive because of the inflation. My South American friends in the local board are much worse, look at Argentina or Venezuela, the inflation there is a real problem, and not what you describe.

What I mean is that I wasn't even minimally worried about the winter coming to Europe before reading this topic. Should I be?

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