How do gambling sites detect or know your using a vpn?

[bitcoin talk]

What tools do gambling or classifieds sites use to detect or know your using a vpn?
Thanks in advance.

[Orpichukwu]

I don't know if there are any special tools they use, but to me, it's very easy to know who is using VPN in some cases. If you notice a particular user who, each time they login to their account, appears in a new location with a different IP address from their last login, is that not an obvious sign of VPN usage? 
 
And they can also confirm their suspicions by asking the user to provide KYC verification documents, which clearly show their country of residence, which will be different from the IP address the VPN will give to the gambling site.

[PX-Z]

Is this a cheat sheet you want to know from us, from normal casino users? Unless some casino representative answer here which i don't think someone will do, also i don't think representative have slightest the idea how this technical works. Then again you will get nothing from us.

[Apocollapse]

From your activity.

If you submit you live in Korea, but your IP address show you're in US, France etc, it will raise a suspicion. If you chat using Spanish language with perfect grammar, it also raise another suspicion.

If you notice a particular user who, each time they login to their account, appears in a new location with a different IP address from their last login, is that not an obvious sign of VPN usage? 

This is not entirely correct.

Most people are using dynamic IP address which make your IP address keep changing even you're didn't move to anywhere. Let's say that you're live in Los Angeles, but your IP address could show you're in Washington, Dallas, Boston etc.

[bitcoin talk]

If you notice a particular user who, each time they login to their account, appears in a new location with a different IP address from their last login, is that not an obvious sign of VPN usage? 

This is not entirely correct.

Most people are using dynamic IP address which make your IP address keep changing even you're didn't move to anywhere. Let's say that you're live in Los Angeles, but your IP address could show you're in Washington, Dallas, Boston etc.

Who is doing the assigning of the dynamic ip address, the isp or the router? Because one article I read elsewhere said  the ISP, the other said the home router. Can a home router also moonlight as a DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol)?

[Coin_trader]

What tools do gambling or classifieds sites use to detect or know your using a vpn?
Thanks in advance.

According to reliable source. They have special tools to determine which is only available selected casino since this cost much. Casino don’t disclose their method to avoid potential exploit on their verification.

I doubt someone here can give you exact answer since only person that working within the casino knew this method. But don’t try to use it on casino like Stake because they have tools to determine whether a user is using VPN or not.

[EarnOnVictor]

What tools do gambling or classifieds sites use to detect or know your using a vpn?

Casinos may not have a direct tool to detect when a customer is using a VPN since it will come like a regular IP and traffic to their website/platform but I can think of two ways they may detect or suspect the IP as a VPN.

1. If the customer's registered IP location or country differs from where the current IP originates from.

2. They may generally search your IP against the popular VPN operator's IPs, if it matches, then "you are in a soup." This is why some people would demand a private IP from their VPN operators if they can afford it.

[stompix]

What tools do gambling or classifieds sites use to detect or know your using a vpn?

The easiest way to do it, comparing against other IPs known to be owned by VPN companies, one example here
https://ipinfo.io/tools/vpn-providers-detected
There are services online that provide updated information on those, a bit pricy but with thousands of IPs, so unless you're using your own private one sooner or later it will get tracked.
But there are also other methods, most of them rely on leaks from your browser, webRTC, info on your timezone, and others, so normally before browsing you should test your browser for information leaks.

I don't know if there are any special tools they use, but to me, it's very easy to know who is using VPN in some cases. If you notice a particular user who, each time they login to their account, appears in a new location with a different IP address from their last login, is that not an obvious sign of VPN usage?

What if I'm using the same IP or the same range from the same country?

[Haunebu]

This is a silly question op. What makes you think that gambling sites will specify the tools that they use to detect VPN usage? They keep those cards close to their chest for obvious reasons.

If you are planning on using a VPN to access any crypto gambling site, you are just adding an additional risk factor to the already risky nature of gambling. Think!

[FinneysTrueVision]

VPN providers use IP ranges that belong to data centers and not residential internet service providers. If you use a VPN you can check on a website like whatismyipaddress.com and under ISP it will almost always show you the name of a web hosting provider.

[Upgrade00]

Gambling sites will use many of the ways listed here to detect the use of VPN. They can also use cookies which tracks your activity when you're not logged into the site and maybe have the VPN off. There will obviously be advanced tools that use to perform these functions.

Can a home router also moonlight as a DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol)?

A router can be configured to function as a DHCP relay or proxy but I don't think it assigns IP addresses.

[KiaKia]

I guess you don't know much about building a website, it's so obvious.

Anyone who knows how to build a website will know about every locations of all incoming traffics to the website, having a website as a admin means you have all keys to the cribs, you can add and remove tools to sniff on visitors.

The suspicion will start once you visit from the U.S location and your details is not matching up, maybe it says you are from India, this will surely raise some eye brow.

Since we now have VPN tools to hide identity you won't do very well if you are been asked to provide KYC verification, your location must be same with the information you are providing.

I hope this helps and my advice to you is you should try as much as possible to avoid using VPN to operate a online casino unless they support it.

[Russlenat]

What tools do gambling or classifieds sites use to detect or know your using a vpn?
Thanks in advance.

Normally, gamblers use a VPN to change their IP address and country of access, primarily to avoid restrictions if gambling is restricted in their country. However, if the casino sees that the IP address you are accessing from does not correspond to the documents you submitted regarding your location, it could raise a red flag, and they might suspect you of using a VPN.

I think this is the most important factor to consider because if you just want to hide your real IP address while still displaying the same location, you can use a VPN with a server in the same country where you are gambling. We are not entirely sure what tools gambling sites use, but it's their business, and they know how to protect it, so they likely have the means to detect users who are cheating.

[2Pizza410000BTC]

What tools do gambling or classifieds sites use to detect or know your using a vpn?
Thanks in advance.

They may or may not have a system to know if  a VPN is being used, I have no idea. But as far as I'm concerned and in my opinion a casino platform can know who is logging into the platform using a VPN. For example I worked on a mining site and found that when I login without vpn my country flag is shown and using vpn if I enter the website selecting any other country Canada, Germany etc then those country flags are shown below. So if a casino platform has such a system on their gambling site, it must be possible to see who is accessing from where or if they are using a VPN.

[Charles-Tim]

What tools do gambling or classifieds sites use to detect or know your using a vpn?
Thanks in advance.

The website you are visiting can know that you are using VPN through cookies, cache in your browser and also through your browsing fingerprints. You can read more about it from this site: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/vpn/guides/detect-vpn-use/

I don't know if there are any special tools they use, but to me, it's very easy to know who is using VPN in some cases. If you notice a particular user who, each time they login to their account, appears in a new location with a different IP address from their last login, is that not an obvious sign of VPN usage?

If you want, on a paid VPN, you can set the location to the same address anytime that you want to connect online. Free VPN are the ones that is setting the address automatically.

Another thing is that after a short period of time, IP addresses do change. I think the pattern can be known by the gambling sites and use it as a tool to know how VPNs are and how IP addresses are.

[Peanutswar]

Possible is with the use of their IP address if you are using a local ISP they are giving you a DCHP or automatically assigned address once you are connected to your wifi now if you make a changes on the location that's the time they will might detected, this is to prevent other suspicious activity came from the account or possible have an incident that the account was hack or stolen.

ezample If you are from a local country given to you a
192.168.xxx.xxx and you have change an IP address with other segment 104.xxx.xxx.xxx for a new login of course it's already consider you are not using your casual login internet instead using other countries segment.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

What tools do gambling or classifieds sites use to detect or know your using a vpn?
Thanks in advance.

           -       First of all, I don't have a gambling site, so I don't know; it's hard for me to know. All I know is that if you are using a mobile device or phone that is connected to a data connection, since you are using a phone device, the IP address changes most of the time, if I am not mistaken.

And as mentioned by others who commented here on the topic that you made an OP, it's easy to get a mattress, especially if you just type it in Google; it will give you many options on how to find it, just like that, mate.

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Who is doing the assigning of the dynamic ip address, the isp or the router? Because one article I read elsewhere said  the ISP, the other said the home router. Can a home router also moonlight as a DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol)?

As far as I know, the ISP typically assigns the dynamic IP address, not the home router. Your ISP controls the pool of IP addresses, and when your device connects to the internet, the ISP assigns an IP from that pool. The home router does manage internal IPs for your local network using DHCP, but this is separate from the public IP assigned by the ISP. So, while your router does handle internal IP assignment, it's the ISP that determines your public-facing IP.

[stadus]

Who is doing the assigning of the dynamic ip address, the isp or the router? Because one article I read elsewhere said  the ISP, the other said the home router. Can a home router also moonlight as a DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol)?

As far as I know, the ISP typically assigns the dynamic IP address, not the home router. Your ISP controls the pool of IP addresses, and when your device connects to the internet, the ISP assigns an IP from that pool. The home router does manage internal IPs for your local network using DHCP, but this is separate from the public IP assigned by the ISP. So, while your router does handle internal IP assignment, it's the ISP that determines your public-facing IP.

You can have your own router IP address pool that is different from the ISP's pool—that's the normal setup. However, you can ask the ISP to bridge your device so you can use the IP address they provide. Going back to OP's concern, if you have a dynamic IP, your IP will change from time to time, but if you have a static IP, that will be permanent and recorded by the casino. However, since casinos are not overly concerned with our IP address, we just need to be mindful of our location if we want our account to remain secure, and avoid changing from one country to another every time we access the casino.

[Slow death]

What tools do gambling or classifieds sites use to detect or know your using a vpn?
Thanks in advance.

Although some people on the forum and even on the internet answer your question, the fact is that casinos or betting houses will not tell you how they detect VPNs. This is a security procedure that they use and that is confidential so that people do not circumvent the restrictions that the casino imposes. Therefore, the only way for you to get a more detailed answer would be if you could ask someone who has worked in the security area of ​​an online casino. But I also doubt that this person would be so unethical as to reveal confidential information. But since unfortunately nowadays people will do anything for money, I would not be surprised if this person charged you money. I do not know anyone who works in a casino and even if I did, I definitely would not tell you. Because I think that this type of information should not be public and should remain only with the employees and casino owners.

Who is doing the assigning of the dynamic ip address, the isp or the router? Because one article I read elsewhere said  the ISP, the other said the home router. Can a home router also moonlight as a DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol)?

As far as I know, the ISP typically assigns the dynamic IP address, not the home router. Your ISP controls the pool of IP addresses, and when your device connects to the internet, the ISP assigns an IP from that pool. The home router does manage internal IPs for your local network using DHCP, but this is separate from the public IP assigned by the ISP. So, while your router does handle internal IP assignment, it's the ISP that determines your public-facing IP.

You can have your own router IP address pool that is different from the ISP's pool—that's the normal setup. However, you can ask the ISP to bridge your device so you can use the IP address they provide. Going back to OP's concern, if you have a dynamic IP, your IP will change from time to time, but if you have a static IP, that will be permanent and recorded by the casino. However, since casinos are not overly concerned with our IP address, we just need to be mindful of our location if we want our account to remain secure, and avoid changing from one country to another every time we access the casino.

I don't like using my country's mobile internet provider to access casinos because the IP is constantly changing, although they are still always IPs from my country, but they change cities. That's why I prefer to use my fixed internet provider so I don't have problems with casinos, especially because I do KYC at the casino.