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August 30, 2024, 07:27:58 PM
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A few weeks ago I told my brothers about Crash/Aviator games and after knowing about those games they decided to try those games and try to see if they get lucky or not. They played those crash/aviator games for a week and tried various strategies to see if they can win some money by betting on those games.

I told them that it's quite hard to win against the house edge especially in games like aviator/crash but one of my brother said that he's found the secret of those games and he'll show me that how he'll win against the house edge of the casinos. He made some profits in first day and laughed at me by saying "look I've made some profit from the crash game," I told him don't get deluded by that profit and withdraw your initial deposit plus the won amount, but he said he's going to win more and get rich by playing the game for many days.

He made some more profits with that money and was pretty excited that he'll make even more overtime, but suddenly he started losing money in the crash game but didn't said anything about the losses to me, over next few days he emptied his account and said that this time I was in hurry next time I'll win for sure.

After some days he deposited more money in belief that he'll recover his losses and make profit from the Crash game. I told him once again to be careful not to place high value bets but he didn't listen to me and used his own mind during bet placement and in a day he emptied his account once again. I told him to stop playing the game because you won't make any profit from it but you'll get addicted to it.

What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?

 
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August 30, 2024, 07:35:05 PM
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You win when you're stop.

Basically, your brother got "Gambling Fallacy" while on winning he think can beat the house and doesn't realize in the long term the house will always win. Remember, the house only just needs one lose to trigger you to keep the deposit meanwhile you need to survive/win everytime you are deposit.

In long term they house will win, your brother already lose before he lose the money cause he have mindset in gambling "I know to cheat or win against the house". That's how your brother lose before playing or losing the money.

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August 30, 2024, 07:35:40 PM
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Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?
Winning against the house edge is a general term, more often than not, you will be at a loss when you play for a long period of time. You can have a big profit and quit playing leaving you ahead of the house, but usually you will be below break even after multiple games.

This does not only apply to crash games, but gambling games in general.

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August 30, 2024, 07:38:47 PM
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What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?

There are few people I’ve seen celebrating their big wins in crash games -  it’s not as frequent as you’ll see in slots. Something I’ve observed about crash is that when you decide to just watch and not stake that’s when you’ll see the plan fly to up to 100x multiplier but the moment you decide to take part in it, it will start to crash at 1.03 - 1.05 multiplier, there was a time it crashed at 1.01 multiplier (and it has happened more than once).

But if you’re the lucky type you should be able to get something good from the game - but if you go there claiming to have a strategy like your brother did you’ll only end up losing you whole money to the casino. Remember casino games are based on luck, so don’t be too over confident about a strategy you tried that worked for you once because it might just happened to be a fluke. It’s not impossible but still it’s rare.

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August 30, 2024, 07:59:24 PM
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games such as Crash or Aviator. These are designed so that they have a house edge which means that over time, players are more likely to lose than win.

Though one may at some point win big, the fact remains that one's luck rarely holds. Many a time, a player will keep playing, hoping to repeat how well they did originally and more often than not end up losing than winning. Your advice to your brother to quit while he’s ahead is good advice. It is too bad that the urge and addiction will make it hard to heed such an admonition.

Ultimately, these games depend more on luck than strategy, and the thought of steady big wins is a mirage. Best to be cautious and not fall into the lure of trying to outdo the house advantage.

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August 30, 2024, 08:03:31 PM
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Well it comes down to this and I think what I say here is mostly related to slots but in the long run it also highly agrees with the replies already given to you that you cannot to win against house edge. In slot machines for example people keep playing those high or very high volatility slot which are the worse things to play yet the people do so because the provider tells you that in such type of games you have a lower chances to win more often but you have higher chances to win a huge multiplier in a short amount of time, something I have myself proven with all my years of experience to be wrong, it is wrong as it happens once in so many years and I doubt we only make one deposit during such time interval, during such period we make a lot of deposits which make it vain even if we hit the max win so that is why the best advice given to you is that of you win when you stop.

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Some may have a strategy that works on crash games but also we shouldn't outwrite the place of luck in all of this, I have a close friend who approached me some weeks back to help him despite $10 into his casino account that he has a way of turning that amount into multiple Dollars in profits, I tried to let him know that he should not depend so much on his strategy but he assured me that he will definitely make good profits from that amount.


And in less than 5 hour's he refunded me back the $10 that he have made enough money to be able to continue with the profits made already, so for sure he made a way to bet small amount on each games and accumulating little by little profits.

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August 30, 2024, 08:16:19 PM
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Spending much time on gambling will put you at high risk of losing and that is why you should not spend too much time believing that you will make profit for playing long. The house edge will always win when you are not satisfied with your little win and become greedy.

Gambling should be for fun and not to brag with on a sure profit because you will end up being disappointed after you have lost huge. If we are winning, it is because of luck at that moment and not because our strategy is working.

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August 30, 2024, 08:16:53 PM
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A few weeks ago I told my brothers about Crash/Aviator games and after knowing about those games they decided to try those games and try to see if they get lucky or not. They played those crash/aviator games for a week and tried various strategies to see if they can win some money by betting on those games.

I told them that it's quite hard to win against the house edge especially in games like aviator/crash but one of my brother said that he's found the secret of those games and he'll show me that how he'll win against the house edge of the casinos. He made some profits in first day and laughed at me by saying "look I've made some profit from the crash game," I told him don't get deluded by that profit and withdraw your initial deposit plus the won amount, but he said he's going to win more and get rich by playing the game for many days.

He made some more profits with that money and was pretty excited that he'll make even more overtime, but suddenly he started losing money in the crash game but didn't said anything about the losses to me, over next few days he emptied his account and said that this time I was in hurry next time I'll win for sure.

After some days he deposited more money in belief that he'll recover his losses and make profit from the Crash game. I told him once again to be careful not to place high value bets but he didn't listen to me and used his own mind during bet placement and in a day he emptied his account once again. I told him to stop playing the game because you won't make any profit from it but you'll get addicted to it.

What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?
There are exceptionally days you can win significant money in aviator game, but the risk is way too high as you don't control the movement of the game and it can cut you short anything. The volatility in crash/ aviator games is high, that's why i only advised for people to just try their luck with any amount they can do away with and not put too much hope on it. OP your friend would have just walked away with the money he won, but that's the place greed had to take the a better part of him.











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What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?
if you stop/quit gambling permanently while you are still in profit, I'd consider that as your win against the house edge, if not it is only a matter of time before you start losing those profits and end up depositing money to try and win again. As the popular saying goes "The house always wins", so if you gamble long enough you'll eventually lose to the house and be in the negative profit.

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If I should dislike any form of gambling then aviator is one of them, all my moments trying them out has been a total mess now I skip the option while gambling. I just feel like the Aviator is not something I am quite fortunate enough to have more winning than loosing so I choose to avoid than keeping it consistent meanwhiile incurring more losses.

Aviator games are cunning, the first trials are most likely profitable which would intrigue someone into believing and depositing more, your brother messed his opportunity for the moment he had that profit is best he should have withdrawn everything, give the system more time before depositing again but he had his eyes locked in greed and wanted more. It's inevitable loosing to the system, they aswell want to make profits , so no matter the strategies deployed can never outsmart the sites to have more consecutive wins.



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What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?
It's never possible to always win against the house while playing luck bad games such as "aviator" or any other slot games, because inasmuch as you may get lucky while playing for the first and second time, it doesn't mean you will always get lucky, because I personally could remember either early this year when "Shuffle" casino and "Sherbet" did an aviator contest, and I was lucky to have participated, of which I was constantly playing aviator and winning, to the point I got carried away, thinking I have found a working formula, not knowing that was the beginning of my loses, as lost everything, and since then I realized that games like this can never be mastered with one particular working strategy, as it always rely on luck.

So, it's nice, you were able to stop your friend from continuing, as he probably would have lost more money and risk getting addicted.

 
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What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?
If you won the house, that means that you are lucky. That is just how gambling against the house is. I mean luck. But most of the time you will be the one losing, especially if you gamble more frequently. Know that I am not only referring to aviator/crash games only. I am referring to all games that you are competing with the house.

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I agree it's hard because I don't remember if it's the same for Aviator crash game but at some crash games the house edge it's not the same for all the multiplier, it means you will lose less money in the long run for some multipliers, and more for others. So if you are not unable to spot which multipliers give the best house edge and which ones give the worst, you can lose your funds quickly.

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I will say at first your brother experience something called beginners luck. Beginners luck is one f the factor tha normally lure people into gambling more , because after winning their first game alot of people will believe that they will continue to win , due to the luck they had In their first trials not knowing that is just a way to drag them into gambling more . And have also notice that the more you lose the more you loss the state of reasoning, that's why during losses most time alot of folks will continue to gamble recklessly hoping to hit the jackpot bit at the end, will endup with opposite result.

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The last time I played crash games was in May of this year. I think I lost around $1500 during my work trips to kill time, thinking that it's a good game to win because oftentimes, I only target x2 on my initial bet and did not dare chase the high multipliers as they are usually trapping people into the delusion that a big win is upon them. I was making good progress on my first few weeks playing the game, and doubled my bankroll in between trips. Then I lost, got greedy, chased losses, and spent my allotted budget for the trip Cheesy I only realized I was into deep into crash games when I no longer posted in this forum when I regularly do, and I am eating up my monthly budget in gambling in a day. Needless to say, I got owned, but it's whatever because I stopped and never looked back again.

Playing crash games sure is entertaining when you're initially winning with quite some good multipliers. Though I don't really recommend going ham on it unless you're Elon Musk or some other billionaire with a lot of money on your pocket. You can't chase huge multipliers at all times. Once you win big, or have doubled your money, you can just quit and be ahead.
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I mean, if your luck is exceptionally good, why not?

The problem is, how do you measure your luck? you can't, that's the thing. When people say they're lucky, the reality is, it's just faith. In hindsight, only a very few people will win life changing amounts and most people will lose. I wouldn't be too confident on getting rich and deposit big amounts much less touch my savings. Your bro may need to cool his head.

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August 31, 2024, 01:47:13 AM
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What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?
with the incident of the profits that have been obtained which in my opinion have made your brother have full hope in the game until he wants to continue playing the game. the same thing happened to my friend where I myself am not too interested in this game, but with my friend he is very obsessed with this game. which made me wonder there was a group where it was broadcast live about the right time to place a bet and my friend also showed the game he played by placing bets according to the time set by the person who led the group.
at first he did manage to get a profit, but it didn't last long. when he had made a profit three times and the group leader just disappeared, I don't know what happened but what my friend did was continue to bet based on what he thought guessing the right time to bet as a result making everything fall apart by losing his profits and also his capital then he got emotional because of the defeat that had occurred.
in my opinion it's not just in the crash/aviator game, but in all gambling games it is indeed difficult to beat the dealer who acts as the host.

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August 31, 2024, 01:54:48 AM
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You did the right thing about warning him to be careful when playing Crash and withdraw his money while he can win. But he doesn't listen to you and still playing that game which makes him losses.
As a gambler, he should know that Crash is one of the gambling game based on luck so he will difficult to rely on to his luck because his luck will not comes when he playing gambling. Even he deposit more money to recover his previous losses, that will not gives him the winning easily.
I don't think he can beat the house because we as a gambler just have to enjoy the game. If we win, that is because of our luck so we don't have to think to win much money because that will be difficult. You can warn your brothers not to risks too much money to playing gambling games because it is difficult to win much money in gambling.

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August 31, 2024, 02:06:19 AM
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What do you guys think? Is it possible to win against the house edge of those crash/aviator games when your luck is exceptionally good or it's almost impossible to win against the house edge?

Nah, that's why it is called "house edge", meaning they have all the advantage, and it you play that long, you are going to lose in the end. That's why the first rule is that if you win and win big initially, get out and withdraw the money and just come back the next day or just simple stop.

Because if you think that you can have the perfect strategy on a luck base game, you are totally wrong. Still boils down on your luck, and so initially your brother might think that he had a strategy to beat the house, but it was all luck for him. Hopefully though, he will have a change of mindset and not to deposit and then become a addicted gambler because he is chasing that win again.

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