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September 08, 2024, 05:10:01 AM
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If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.). 


I get what your saying and no one should ever think that he/she are slaves to any employer of labour, I know alot of people see this from this perspective that working for  people and they paying you peanuts is a waste of time and they take it like they are being used in respect to enriching those persons.

One thing about working for someone aside being paid is that, you gain experience and learn alot of tactics to carry on your own business or company. It's an avenue of learning.tho in the aspect of making one slaves I think its personal self and it's bent on the employer like some really like to stress a workers life just for their gain but it's not that they are enslaving you but they want you to learn from the situation.
And of a truth  salaries are not bond tied to workers to keep them working, I said this because your efforts and inputs is what your being paid for so you worth it.

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September 08, 2024, 05:59:59 AM
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A simple question to those who think work is slavery and unfair process, answer the question: why don't you create your own business, and not just give away money to people who do not want to bring profit to your business and you, but at least just once a month come to you and get money from you ? Smiley

That will be the most interesting thing in this discussion !
People have completely lost their bearings. )) You have to think of something like this. No one wants to work anymore and just comes up with pearls of wisdom.
Indeed, let every businessman pay wages at least several times a year without any work done, products, etc. It would be a very funny story. I read all this and I can’t help but feel like I’ve ended up in a parallel universe.

 
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September 08, 2024, 06:35:55 AM
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If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.). 


I get what your saying and no one should ever think that he/she are slaves to any employer of labour, I know alot of people see this from this perspective that working for  people and they paying you peanuts is a waste of time and they take it like they are being used in respect to enriching those persons.

One thing about working for someone aside being paid is that, you gain experience and learn alot of tactics to carry on your own business or company. It's an avenue of learning.tho in the aspect of making one slaves I think its personal self and it's bent on the employer like some really like to stress a workers life just for their gain but it's not that they are enslaving you but they want you to learn from the situation.
And of a truth  salaries are not bond tied to workers to keep them working, I said this because your efforts and inputs is what your being paid for so you worth it.
I agree with that, besides getting rewards, we can also get experience and even lessons from things that we have never gotten in school before. In addition, when we want to work based on our own will, we can also try to see how far our abilities are, this is what I did to myself by daring to run away from home and work in someone else's city and that trained my own mentality to be better and stronger in facing life.
In my opinion, a boss who gives a salary is not just a bond for them as workers, but we should be able to appreciate the hard work of others. I myself have never thought negatively like I am a slave when working, because we both need it so this is a normal thing.

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September 18, 2024, 04:21:24 AM
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No one forces one to work except one's own circumstances, if you don't want to work, improve your circumstances. Companies, job you do — are least to be blamed.

I know people who are having jobs — they are well paid, are given various benefits aside from salary, and work is not demanding either.

Also, 'Be your own boss' has been shoved down a lot lately on social media and I find it cringe.

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September 18, 2024, 01:13:49 PM
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If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.). 

In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss. 

Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement? 

Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss. 

Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.

In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.

This is a pretty radical opinion and not everyone will understand it. Before, when I didn't have a family and worked alone, I had a lot of money. It was strange to me that someone says that a permanent job is slavery. But for a family, one such salary is not enough, it is not enough. And then I saw from the prices that I spent all the money on an apartment, food and a wife. And that's it! And then I realized that I was not saving anything at all, and then it felt like real slavery, where I work for food, but I don't know how to save money for a car, travel and to free myself from this!
How good it is that we all have a cryptocurrency world that destroys all these stupid shackles and rules.

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September 18, 2024, 01:33:53 PM
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In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.
In my opinion, your understanding is that you have the wrong way of thinking, if everyone in this world is a boss, then whoever works, everyone is a boss, that is a wrong opinion, life is arranged in such a way, both regarding the economy, mate, work and so on.

A worker doesn't mean a slave, you work for a salary but you are still free to do anything elsewhere and you can still travel anywhere, for me that is not a slave, You work and get paid and get a good economic life in your family. That's life, a sadistic slave, you can't be free like people in general work and get paid.

That's what life, work, salary, boss, rich, poor and so on, the goal is only one to complete, not as a slave, for example: rich people need poor people and poor people need rich people, complementing each other is the purpose of life, if everyone is poor nothing works andIf everyone was rich, of course no one would work and be paid.

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If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.). 

In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss. 

Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement? 

Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss. 

Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.

In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.

A white collar job does not refer to working for someone else, it means an office or managerial type job, as opposed to a blue collar job which is when someone is involved with manual labor. The reality is for most people they often get stuck or at least stay happily content with the first half decent career opportunities that pop up and you can't blame them, as most people are looking for a bit of stability. However that does not preclude them from eventually becoming "free" of the cycle, which is more about controlling incoming and outgoings as much as possible. If you are able to bring in much more income than is going out, then invest it wisely, you have a chance to break away from the mainstream.

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September 18, 2024, 08:02:50 PM
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It is not everyone that has capacity of running their own business, some people just prefer to work for other to get paid. They don't want to stress themselves to start thinking about how to set up a business but prefer to be employed and work for others.

OP, you should also know that if everybody in a country becomes a Boss, who will be the workers or people do carry out other responsibilities. It means that life will not be balanced. There is need for employees and employer to make the country a better place because we all have our knowledge of different skills in various areas.

I can be the best employee but the worst employer.
That's the real fact, if everyone becomes a boss I don't think their will be people out their to work because everyone has because a boss. The truth is that it is not everybody that have the ability to start up something that can generate money, some people are meant to work somewhere,  to assist an organisation, companies to grow. Their is no arm working under someone , as far as it is ones decision and one is happy as an employee.

So many people try to go into things that can generate money for them but it is something very difficult for some people which they never succeeded but run into lose of money. The best thing is that people should make decisions on what they feel they are capable of doing than to make mistakes that can cause pain at the end.

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September 18, 2024, 08:40:43 PM
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If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.). 


I get what your saying and no one should ever think that he/she are slaves to any employer of labour, I know alot of people see this from this perspective that working for  people and they paying you peanuts is a waste of time and they take it like they are being used in respect to enriching those persons.

One thing about working for someone aside being paid is that, you gain experience and learn alot of tactics to carry on your own business or company. It's an avenue of learning.tho in the aspect of making one slaves I think its personal self and it's bent on the employer like some really like to stress a workers life just for their gain but it's not that they are enslaving you but they want you to learn from the situation.
And of a truth  salaries are not bond tied to workers to keep them working, I said this because your efforts and inputs is what your being paid for so you worth it.
I agree with that, besides getting rewards, we can also get experience and even lessons from things that we have never gotten in school before. In addition, when we want to work based on our own will, we can also try to see how far our abilities are, this is what I did to myself by daring to run away from home and work in someone else's city and that trained my own mentality to be better and stronger in facing life.
In my opinion, a boss who gives a salary is not just a bond for them as workers, but we should be able to appreciate the hard work of others. I myself have never thought negatively like I am a slave when working, because we both need it so this is a normal thing.
There are really just those people who are really just that too wanting to deal up with things as if this isnt really that part of a life cycle of a certain human being or person. Of course we would really be needing up to work for us to survive because if you dont work then you wont really be having a salary for you to sustain your living and its something a normal action or approach to have. It is really just that there are people who wants to get out with this kind of cycle or condition on which this is the moment that they will really be doing things on which is more than into those people who had been working so hard for the rest of their lives.
Somehow taking up another step will really be that not simple because it will really be that involving out that risks taking on which we know that this isnt something simple.

If you do really want yourself to be not included into those labors or manpower or being simply an employee then it would really be that needed up for you to work more or dealing up with something
that you could put up yourself to have such chance to make your life more better. As for the talks about if all people would be big BOSS then who are the ones who would really be working into their company?
This is how this life works and its up to you on how you would gonna handle it out and making up decisions according into your preference and liking.

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September 18, 2024, 09:51:08 PM
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In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss.
In my opinion, your understanding is that you have the wrong way of thinking, if everyone in this world is a boss, then whoever works, everyone is a boss, that is a wrong opinion, life is arranged in such a way, both regarding the economy, mate, work and so on.

A worker doesn't mean a slave, you work for a salary but you are still free to do anything elsewhere and you can still travel anywhere, for me that is not a slave, You work and get paid and get a good economic life in your family. That's life, a sadistic slave, you can't be free like people in general work and get paid.

That's what life, work, salary, boss, rich, poor and so on, the goal is only one to complete, not as a slave, for example: rich people need poor people and poor people need rich people, complementing each other is the purpose of life, if everyone is poor nothing works andIf everyone was rich, of course no one would work and be paid.
Indeed, literally what exists in this world has been destined and their respective duties with various human conditions that cannot be determined from the moment they come out of a mother's stomach, just as the universe rotates according to its axis, so too humans can be described through views like this, it is not wrong because some people also believe it.

Slave orientation here may be how slaves of the past who continue to be tortured and employed without being given the right to a decent life like now and if you look at the concept of thinking like that then there is no slave sentence that is appropriate for today's company workers, the sentence is too sadistic for now with such views on workers.

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If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.). 

In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss. 

Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement? 

Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss. 

Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.

In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.

Imagine working an 8 to 5 job and still end up getting peanuts at the end of the month. I used to work as a teacher in a school where I was paid 40 thousand naira a month but I felt like a slave because I was doing more than what I was getting paid for. I had a lot to do, I was even uploading results of students online and I wasn't getting any extra pay for that, I had to quite because I felt used, this is actually a relatable topic if you Ve never experienced this you won't understand

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September 19, 2024, 03:40:49 PM
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It is not right to say that working is called slavery. Because as far as I know, working and getting paid is not slavery, in living this life we ​​do have to be like that, some are bosses and some are employees.
If that's the case, even though we already have our own business, we are also called slaves because we have to be responsible for our own business. What you have to understand is that slaves are those who are not paid and cannot submit a letter of resignation from work, in other words they work under duress and sometimes get bad treatment, can even be beaten and can also be sold.

If working is called slavery based on what you said in this thread. In my opinion, we are all also slaves to the Government if that's the case, because if the Government asks you to do something, you have to do it or there will be very severe consequences, usually in the form of a fine or even worse. If the Government forces someone to do something, you can just say no, but it will harm you.

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September 20, 2024, 12:32:23 PM
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Starting your own business is capital intensive, in order to start your own business you need to have capital and you get that capital from working, except if you have inherited funds. There is nothing wrong in working and climbing up the social ladder, you basically have to learn how to raise capital in every job you are doing and in turn use that capital to grow your own wealth, you do not have to do your current job forever, just have a plan on how long you intend to do it and work towards achieving your desires, but you must be very disciplined.
If one wants to be successful in life and earn more money then this is the way for him to follow what you are telling.  Because the business brings more money and those who do the job are well paid and have to do all the work in it.  And for that there must be estimation and hard work. If these things are not there, then nothing will count in business.  This is the main reason why many people are afraid of doing business and try to get rid of it and their dream is to make money and they don't even follow it.  If you have a job, use it, but think about it and do business later.  But today's youth do not understand this and are going after a job.They should take their interest in business and spend their time on it and become something for their family.

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September 20, 2024, 12:56:38 PM
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In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.
What you must know is that not everyone is designed to own a company, just as people usually say that not everyone is designed to be rich while others are meant to be poor. The thing is that, at first before becoming a company owner or whatever you must first worked yourself to be in that position before wanting to be in the place you want.

Let me bring it down to our understanding; those who are saying that it's better to work for ourselves than working for people are those who had already gain experience while working people before, so it is that easy for them to become their own boss with the experience they had gain throughout their years of working that is why you see many company saying that before you would be employed they needs about 4-10 years working experience to make sure such person can be able to handle that position they are fixing in that person.

How would someone just rise and become CEO without either working, learning or acquiring the skills to become the CEO they desired. Today many people go to tertiary institution and they some skills after which they may decides to create employment opportunity with their knowledge and skills, while some goes for skill learning such as hand work; this includes hair dressing, tailoring, catering, automobile, mobile, welding and fabrication and so many more. When they finishes these people can set up their business and becomes boss and CEO of their own. 

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September 20, 2024, 01:56:43 PM
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workers are not slaves in my opinion if it is in accordance with what is produced, if the income does not match what we do and are not even paid, then that is what is called a slave.
Actually, it is a risk if you work with people to have to follow the rules, even though we have a company that also has rules even though we make them

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September 20, 2024, 03:03:41 PM
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Starting your own business is capital intensive, in order to start your own business you need to have capital and you get that capital from working, except if you have inherited funds. There is nothing wrong in working and climbing up the social ladder, you basically have to learn how to raise capital in every job you are doing and in turn use that capital to grow your own wealth, you do not have to do your current job forever, just have a plan on how long you intend to do it and work towards achieving your desires, but you must be very disciplined.
If one wants to be successful in life and earn more money then this is the way for him to follow what you are telling.  Because the business brings more money and those who do the job are well paid and have to do all the work in it.  And for that there must be estimation and hard work. If these things are not there, then nothing will count in business.  This is the main reason why many people are afraid of doing business and try to get rid of it and their dream is to make money and they don't even follow it.  If you have a job, use it, but think about it and do business later.  But today's youth do not understand this and are going after a job.They should take their interest in business and spend their time on it and become something for their family.

It is true that running a business that we have mastered will give more money compared to working as an employee because as employees the income they get has been determined according to the agreement when they enter work and with the business, of course this will depend a lot on those who run the business and if they can run it well then it is likely to have a big profit as well.
If someone is not ready to start a business, of course they will be more comfortable working for others as employees because in running a business, of course, there will be many things that they must think about so that their business can run well and make profits, and as employees, of course, they only need to think about their responsibilities and do not need to think about many things.
As young people, of course, it will be very good if they think about a business, but if they do not have enough funds to run a business, then they can work first, save and prepare themselves to be able to run a business when they have enough capital.

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September 20, 2024, 04:40:16 PM
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Let's accept the fact that the reason why we seek for a job is the salary and experience now if you are just new to the industry of corporate all you need is to have at least a job with just low salary it's okay because you need to have an experience now if you have atleast a minimal of it you can now seek a higher opportunity with higher salary that you learned from your previous employment now you have a higher salary and higher position but it doesn't remove that you came from the bottom so you must need to respect others because they are starting too instead of have a discrimination why not help them.
Personally I always seek a job with a work-life balance so I make my self more comfy and energetic in work to prevent burn out and exhaustion of workloads.

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September 20, 2024, 04:53:36 PM
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workers are not slaves in my opinion if it is in accordance with what is produced, if the income does not match what we do and are not even paid, then that is what is called a slave.
Actually, it is a risk if you work with people to have to follow the rules, even though we have a company that also has rules even though we make them
When they get their rights in full, it cannot be categorized as slavery, because before they work, they certainly understand what obligations they must do and it is an agreement that they should be aware of. This is a risk for workers who work in other people's companies. Unless they do not get their rights according to the provisions while they are continuously demanded to carry out their obligations, it may be categorized as slavery, although not completely. However, the problem is whether as workers they have done all their obligations, that is the question. Sometimes they only demand rights, but they forget their obligations. We cannot see this from one side only in my opinion, but we must see it from all points of view.

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September 20, 2024, 07:30:09 PM
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If you read the title, it was a statement made by someone yesterday as he was trying to discourage someone else from getting a white collar job.(The kind of work he was referring to is a white collar job or any job that requires you to work as an employee in another man's company or business.). 

In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss. 

Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement? 

Personal for me, I do believe that getting a job is not just about the salary you get paid, but there are some jobs that can help to groom you into getting more experience that can also help you to explore when you want to start your own business or company to become your own boss. 

Some people even get to learn about the boss role experience after working as an employee in some office for some number of months or years.

In conclusion, workers are not actually slaves, some people have reasons why they decided to work. For example, in my country, there is one man who is the CEO of a bank. According to him, he worked with the Central Bank of my country as a tech guy, but after eight years of working with them, he gathered lots of experience and also raised enough money that he was able to start his own company. He started an MMO (mobile money provider service), but today he is now a microfinance bank, and he has made excellent more than many commercial banks in my country.

Imagine working an 8 to 5 job and still end up getting peanuts at the end of the month. I used to work as a teacher in a school where I was paid 40 thousand naira a month but I felt like a slave because I was doing more than what I was getting paid for. I had a lot to do, I was even uploading results of students online and I wasn't getting any extra pay for that, I had to quite because I felt used, this is actually a relatable topic if you Ve never experienced this you won't understand
If you are someone who do have a degree and having that kind of sense on whats happening around then you would really be having those kind of realizations that the pay that you are getting isnt really that enough or would really be able to justify into the work that you've done or simply on the job that you are really that having, but since due to lack of opportunities or having that a tough competition in getting a job if we do speak about local jobs then you would definitely be making yourself that accept on the current condition that you are in, despite of being that a very hard situation for you but still it do leaves you no choice.
On the moment that you've seen some opportunity that you could really be able to jump into some better opportunity then you would definitely do it.

We are the ones who do make out such future that we do really have. If you wont be acting or doing something then you would really be just that sticking into the current condition that you are in then there would really be no changes but we know that not all would really be having that kind of mentality on which theer would really be those individuals who would be still keep on searching on something more better.
If you dont really like on having a boss then you would really be going into other path on which you will really be trying out to make some investment or business on which this could possibly be able to make someone
to be successful on which on the moment that it do hits then financial freedom could be obtained and this is something that what everyone wants.

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