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September 26, 2024, 08:33:29 AM
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I understand what OP means, for this issue: considering the example above of your story, that worker can accept for the sake of food and clothing or for the sake of family life or children that he chooses a job to earn money that he does not like or does not have the time and necessary conditions. Even in my country, university graduates cannot find a job in their major, and life forces them to choose another profession to earn a living. That is a forced choice. On the contrary, if that worker chooses a job that is not interesting but has a better salary than their favorite job, it means that the worker chooses and accepts their opportunity to earn money, basically going to work to earn money.
Yes, this is a reality of life that cannot be separated from the finances we experience in this world or in any country. In cases like this we can also see that job choices are often influenced by several factors, including the economy in their lives and the large number of competing job applicants and few opportunities for work. Yes, we inevitably accept these jobs where workers have no other choice but to accept jobs they don't like to support their family's needs, I don't agree with this regarding office workers being slaves.

Yes, it depends on the person whether to take this golden opportunity or not, of course with every big salary there is a target that must be achieved. Not everyone can accept the challenge of a company.
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September 26, 2024, 08:40:58 AM
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Yes, that's right. It seems inappropriate to say that workers are slaves. Because slaves with work are also very different in meaning if our slaves are forced to work even without being paid. If the mindset is like that, I'm afraid all employees will feel like slaves to the company.

Even though we all know that without employees, all companies cannot run. Without civil servants, all governments cannot run, so it is not appropriate to say that work is a slave. Because basically the financial system and media including social media ultimately direct today's humans to have to live like that and they are consciously willing to compete until humans run out of time, they are also fully aware. But I think that's normal because everything still has its benefits, and that's how the world works.
Although those words are not quite right, if we examine further, there is nothing wrong with what the OP said that in certain companies many employees are treated like slaves without any progress in their lives to be able to advance further.

It is true as you said that employees are the main pillars for the progress of a company, but we must also realize that most employees do not have career development even though they have dedicated many contributions to a company.

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September 26, 2024, 09:23:18 PM
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In their conversation, as I paid close attention, he said that workers are slaves and that some workers are smiling in pain while working for peanuts. He went on to say that people are not supposed to work for anyone but should rather be their own boss. 

Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement? 


If everyone is a boss, who is the boss? because people who say that "everyone can be a boss" are people who are fooled by motivational speakers or they are already rich, so they don't need to be employees anymore. Because realistically, not everyone has the destiny to be a boss, because being a boss is not only about hard work, being smart, or other things, but it is about one's fortune and luck. And there is nothing wrong with someone being an employee, is there anything wrong with someone who tries to fulfill their responsibilities? and they are not slaves, they are fighters who are building their lives to be better, so never mock these employees by calling them slaves because they need money and they are much better than people who only mock them slaves but do nothing.

No body is me mocking employees and as a matter of fact, some person have been employees for a life time and have used their salary to establish themselves and became boss of their own after retiring or completing their years of service at the work place. I am an employee to a bank and I also have my business that am running, lately I just rejected an offer for a part time job in a medical lab because the pay was small, if I had accepted the job offer, that mean I would have been an employee in two companies, if really I am against getting a job and being an employee, I wouldn't want to work for anyone but I am.

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September 27, 2024, 09:10:31 PM
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Having this type of feeling means that you really hate your job and you are only doing it for money and have absolutely no other reason. I hate that type of feeling, and that is why I quit my last job, and even quit all the jobs before except one where I got fired, which they had right to because I applied for a job that I wasn't qualified for and for some weird reason they still hired me, no idea why they did, but I ended up getting fired after just two weeks when they realized I am way underqualified for the position, but all other jobs I quit because I didn't like the job.

I know you feel like there isn't a job out there for you, and I know not everyone is as luck as me that they have to live on poverty wages until they find something they like, but I did it and now I am working on the greatest job in the world for me, my job is so fun that I would actually do this for free probably, but I would need a job in that case of course.

So always find something you personally love, and you will do fine. I think it will be something that will take a while for you to get better at, and it will be months or years before you get make a good salary from it, but work on it and find the job you love.

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September 27, 2024, 10:47:54 PM
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Yes, that's right. It seems inappropriate to say that workers are slaves. Because slaves with work are also very different in meaning if our slaves are forced to work even without being paid. If the mindset is like that, I'm afraid all employees will feel like slaves to the company.

Even though we all know that without employees, all companies cannot run. Without civil servants, all governments cannot run, so it is not appropriate to say that work is a slave. Because basically the financial system and media including social media ultimately direct today's humans to have to live like that and they are consciously willing to compete until humans run out of time, they are also fully aware. But I think that's normal because everything still has its benefits, and that's how the world works.
Although those words are not quite right, if we examine further, there is nothing wrong with what the OP said that in certain companies many employees are treated like slaves without any progress in their lives to be able to advance further.

It is true as you said that employees are the main pillars for the progress of a company, but we must also realize that most employees do not have career development even though they have dedicated many contributions to a company.
It all depends on the settings and the can of job we are doing. There are some jobs that will take the strength out of you without living you with something to save for the future. These kind of jobs can be very tasking and does not give us time to relax and think.abiut ourselves. Professional jobs are different because they are flexible and with lots of time to spend on vacation with allowance to take care of some bills. This also depends on country and the sector of the job. In advanced countries, professional jobs are the best and can take care of some needs having something to save for the future.

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September 28, 2024, 06:05:00 PM
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Now, I wish to get your opinion, friends. What do you think of such a statement?
Workers are not slaves, it entirely depends on where you work and if the welfare of the staffs are prioritized by the company. Furthermore, there are white collar jobs workers with good pay and not all jobs requires you to go to the office everyday. I've had a job as the ICT manager of a company and I'm only required to be at the office twice weekly(Mondays and any other day I'm needed).

When you can call white collar jobs slavery is when the remissions is not comparable with to the job requirements and staffs are undervalued, ill treated or their salaries delayed consistently.











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September 28, 2024, 07:43:58 PM
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When people speak in such manner about white collar jobs I literally feel they’re not paid proper IMO. When dealing with private sector we all know there’s no much benefit except they offer huge amount after retirement or else it’s so difficult for anyone to benefit meanwhile government sector is more better due to the high paying rate and retirement benefit. The statement above is wrong because not all workers serve as slave it’s a misconception people try to generalize, if a friend said that there’s no point arguing honestly because the person in  question speaks from experience and currently in a bad economy makes things difficult for low salary earners.

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September 28, 2024, 08:49:23 PM
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It all depends on the settings and the can of job we are doing. There are some jobs that will take the strength out of you without living you with something to save for the future. These kind of jobs can be very tasking and does not give us time to relax and think.abiut ourselves. Professional jobs are different because they are flexible and with lots of time to spend on vacation with allowance to take care of some bills. This also depends on country and the sector of the job. In advanced countries, professional jobs are the best and can take care of some needs having something to save for the future.
We know that job matters because their are jobs that are paying very well so I won't say that having a job is bad but we still need to get such jobs so that we don't complain, but if you look at their jobs that will drain you and they won't even pay you well, so before you get a job I feel like you have to make enquiry about those jobs before you accept them, so that we don't have to stress each other out. No matter what you are earning is going to be very hard to save because the economy is not even helping issues now so we don't have a choice than just for us to invest what ever you are earning.

Their are a lot of engineering jobs and professional jobs that can even give you more money than you actually expect, you need to spend on your self and also invest it because, bills and the sectors to matter a lot because it is  not all sector pays well so you have to be luck or with your connection so we don't have a choice than to do what will best for every individual.

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September 28, 2024, 10:43:07 PM
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It is true as you said that employees are the main pillars for the progress of a company, but we must also realize that most employees do not have career development even though they have dedicated many contributions to a company.

That is very true, the working class will always be necessary for any company, if it is a fundamental pillar, but I think that wealth and payments on a global level are very undervalued, people who are always employees are not and will not be rich, then the mentality of a person who works for another in a company may have benefits, but they cannot be millionaires, but the owners of the companies are, but why? because simply the owners Appropriated their working capital to form a company where their wealth will be the work of others, where less than the minimum profits are shared with the workers and that is something that is fulfilled at a global level, so we must change that mentality , doing our own business.


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