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October 26, 2024, 09:40:08 AM
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However, the airstrikes on Iran without any warning were retaliatory strikes by the two countries, although the damage to Iran was normal. However, Iran has been attacked twice so far, so if the war and counter-attacks continue, the possibility of a larger-scale war between the two countries could be seen.


If I remember correctly, after Iran attacked with 180 ballistic missiles on October 1st. Israel also immediately announced that it would retaliate and they also publicly stated that they would only attack Iranian military bases and not the entire Iranian territory. I think this is a warning.

The attack did not cause much damage and they also announced shortly afterwards that they had ended their retaliation, which shows that they do not want an all-out war with Iran either. And this makes me think that an israel is very arrogant and cruel like terrorists, but it seems they are quite timid with Iran.


I do not expect retaliation from Iran because that could make the situation worse and cause the war to spread further. But if Iran decides to retaliate, they are not wrong because terrorists like Israel need to learn a proper lesson.

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October 26, 2024, 09:53:11 AM
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What people don’t know is that there’s no way you can go to a  fight with Israel and ever win them. This has been a promise God made to them.
Now the funniest part is that, of all the countries with massive weapon, it is Iran who’s waging war against Israel. All they need is settle their differences and then move on rather fueling the war because iran can never win Israel when it comes to war.
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October 26, 2024, 09:54:39 AM
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Iran’s military said the strikes targeted military bases in Ilam, Khuzestan and Tehran provinces and caused 'limited damage,' without elaborating.
We still have to wait for official statements to come out but as I've already explained in the main topic about this here based on the available evidence and from a military perspective this is considered as a failed attack.

However, based on the only 2 official statement issued it seems like majority of the projectiles were intercepted as I speculated in that topic but there is damage. Which means retaliation is certain.

I do not expect retaliation from Iran
This is an act of aggression and according to article 51 of UN Charter because this is "armed attack" against a member state (ie. Iran) that gives Iran the right to retaliate and the Iranian retaliation is certain because such an act can not go unpunished. We just have to wait and see in what form this retaliation is going to take place.

I already explained how I think it should be like in the topic I linked.

What people don’t know is that there’s no way you can go to a  fight with Israel and ever win them. This has been a promise God made to them.
Now the funniest part is that, of all the countries with massive weapon, it is Iran who’s waging war against Israel. All they need is settle their differences and then move on rather fueling the war because iran can never win Israel when it comes to war.
Such delusions have no place in this world where a certain group of people think god has given them some promise and they think they are superior to others. This is why the ethno-supremecist entity called Israel has no right to exist therefore its mere existence is a declaration of war against the entire world.

Exactly the same way Nazis who thought their race is superior and ISIS who thought their god had promised them stuff had no right to exist and eventually got dismantled.

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October 26, 2024, 11:16:04 AM
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However, the airstrikes on Iran without any warning were retaliatory strikes by the two countries, although the damage to Iran was normal. However, Iran has been attacked twice so far, so if the war and counter-attacks continue, the possibility of a larger-scale war between the two countries could be seen.


If I remember correctly, after Iran attacked with 180 ballistic missiles on October 1st. Israel also immediately announced that it would retaliate and they also publicly stated that they would only attack Iranian military bases and not the entire Iranian territory. I think this is a warning.

The attack did not cause much damage and they also announced shortly afterwards that they had ended their retaliation, which shows that they do not want an all-out war with Iran either. And this makes me think that an israel is very arrogant and cruel like terrorists, but it seems they are quite timid with Iran.


I do not expect retaliation from Iran because that could make the situation worse and cause the war to spread further. But if Iran decides to retaliate, they are not wrong because terrorists like Israel need to learn a proper lesson.
Israel's attack on Iran was aimed at maintaining its international prestige. If they do not attack Iran, they will lose their glory in the world. I think they didn't want but still they were bound to attack just for name. Moreover, there was warning among the Iranians before this attack. Iran has been able to intercept their missiles. But there is also the risk of minor damage because there is no way to tell if they will protest 100%. But it is clear that Israel did not launch any major attacks. They even declared an end to the attack themselves so that Iran does not attack them again. In this situation, we can easily understand that Israel is not a big opponent for Iran. Even if Israel understands, they cannot express it. The way Israel attack, I think there is no need for Iran to retaliate.

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October 27, 2024, 11:50:58 AM
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Israel's attack on Iran was aimed at maintaining its international prestige. If they do not attack Iran, they will lose their glory in the world. I think they didn't want but still they were bound to attack just for name. Moreover, there was warning among the Iranians before this attack. Iran has been able to intercept their missiles. But there is also the risk of minor damage because there is no way to tell if they will protest 100%. But it is clear that Israel did not launch any major attacks. They even declared an end to the attack themselves so that Iran does not attack them again. In this situation, we can easily understand that Israel is not a big opponent for Iran. Even if Israel understands, they cannot express it. The way Israel attack, I think there is no need for Iran to retaliate.

But this only makes the situation worse, if they think they will lose face internationally then why don't they think Iran will do the same? Although the attack did not cause too much damage to Iran, it was clearly still an attack on Iranian territory and they had no reason to give in. Israel is the one who started the war and they must be the one to make the first concessions if they really do not want the conflict to get worse.

I also don't expect Iran to retaliate but if Iran doesn't retaliate will terrorists like Israel stop or will they become more arrogant because they think Iran is afraid of them?
As far as I know, Iran has just announced that they will take appropriate retaliatory measures.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/27/iran-supreme-leader-ayatollah-ali-khamenei-israel-attack

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October 27, 2024, 12:21:58 PM
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I also don't expect Iran to retaliate but if Iran doesn't retaliate will terrorists like Israel stop or will they become more arrogant because they think Iran is afraid of them?
As far as I know, Iran has just announced that they will take appropriate retaliatory measures.
Exactly and because of that Iran's retaliation is 100% certain. There is just no way around it. There is no need for any new announcements either. Iran had drawn the line in the sand before and that line was crossed.

However, we have to remember that unlike Israel that is a terrorist organization that is occupying Palestine and is committing genocide and has broken every law there is, Iran is the oldest civilization on earth and acts according to the international law.
That means the first step was global condemnation of it, as we saw over the past 24+ hours all countries condemned Israel's violation of international law.

Second step is taking this violation to the UN Security Council which Iranian officials have already demanded that. The UNSC has to condemn this attack and then take actions against Israel. Something that we already know will not happen because US regime will veto anything that is remotely against the Zionists. But it still has to be done so that the entire world sees the "source" of all these problems!

Third step is that because UN fails to do its job, Iran will take matters into its own hand and will launch a massive retaliatory strike against the Zionists to first punish them in a way that they won't think about committing such violations ever again and second to do significant damage to the Zionist war machine so that they can not commit such violations even if they wanted to.
I've already counted the target groups I think should be hit in that other topic, another one IMO should be the military factories that manufacture weapons and parts for the Zionist genocide machine.

P.S. I dare say that Iran has to make an example of the Zionists so that "others" get a taste of what's in store for them in case they wanted to get similarly "delusional" some day.

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