Iran and Israel

[Ludmilla_rose1995]

Fight between Iran and Israel
I heard it on news that a great fight is currently on between this two countries

How can you say that the war between the two countries is a great thing, you know yourself that war has harmed many parties including innocent citizens, I sincerely condemn war, the Middle Eastern countries that are at war are just arrogant, selfish people and such traits will continue to be ingrained and eternal in them, no one wants to give in for the sake of creating peace.

[BADecker]

Time for a really good meal. It kinda shows how far Americans and other world peoples are from what is happening in the Middle East. Video included at the site.


Don't Talk About Politics At The Dinner Table


https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2024/09/15/dont-talk-about-politics-at-the-dinner-table/
Everything was going fine until Grandma brought out the roast Palestinian child for dinner.

"Who's hungry?" she chirped, a small honey-glazed human corpse on a platter in her arms.

"I am!" said Grandpa.

"Oh boy!" said Tommy.

"OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK??" Susan shrieked.

"Jesus, Sue, my ears," said Ellen.

"What's wrong, honey?" Grandma asked, frozen in shock.

"That's a dead kid! Why the fuck is there a dead kid on that plate??" Susan yelled.

"Hey, you can't talk to your mother like that," Grandpa warned.

"Yeah, Sue, watch your mouth," said Stanley, covering his daughter's ears.

"It's?—?oh my God! It's a dead kid! Why is everyone acting like this is fine?? What the fuck is happening??"

"Oh, Susan, sweetie, are you a vegetarian? I'm sorry, I didn't know!" said Grandma.

"Did?—?did you kill this kid??" Susan asked, struggling to catch her breath.

"Oh Christ, no!" said Grandpa. "Is that what this is about? No, it's some Arab kid that got killed in that Israeli war. They started selling them by the pound at Costco last month."
...

[Scarlett_23]

Who is responsible for the war that is clear to the world?  Who is killing innocent Palestinians every day? A person can easily understand if he judges impartially.  But the sad thing is that the countries of the Middle East remain silent.   They accept injustice day after day to maintain their rule.   Iran stands by Palestine.  War brings bad situation for any country.  Loss of wealth is the biggest loss which is the lives of common people.  It is very difficult to accept the cries of innocent children.  If people imagine themselves in the place of those whose children they lose, then the world's treasurers cannot remain silent.

However, if the war between Iran and Israel breaks out completely, many other countries in the world will be involved.  More massacres will begin. Which will not bring welfare to the world. So Israel should stop now.

[liasbaa]

Fight between Iran and Israel
I heard it on news that a great fight is currently on between this two countries

How can you say that the war between the two countries is a great thing, you know yourself that war has harmed many parties including innocent citizens, I sincerely condemn war, the Middle Eastern countries that are at war are just arrogant, selfish people and such traits will continue to be ingrained and eternal in them, no one wants to give in for the sake of creating peace.

Everyone in the world preaches that they don't want war, but those who speak against war are the ones who are selling arms to other countries by making war. It is so ridiculous and inhumane that important policy makers of the world say they are for peace. You see that most of the civilians who die in war are mostly women and children. In fact, when the conscience of the world will wake up, people will get back their basic rights and their country too.

[Hispo]

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That is probably one of the sickest articles you have brought to this place in a very long time. I get it is satirical and refers to how people start to talk about politics when they get onto their dinner place, but still, portraying a grandmother as a careless person who is willing to serve human flesh for dinner.
Anyways, it is very distasteful of you to write about the death of innocent children in this manner, regardless of what your stand on political opinion of Hamas/Israel is...
Instead of talking about the death of children in this satirical way, we should condemn all of it and pray for this way to come to an end in the shortest term possible. 

[FinePoine0]

Fight between Iran and Israel
I heard it on news that a great fight is currently on between this two countries

How can you say that the war between the two countries is a great thing, you know yourself that war has harmed many parties including innocent citizens, I sincerely condemn war, the Middle Eastern countries that are at war are just arrogant, selfish people and such traits will continue to be ingrained and eternal in them, no one wants to give in for the sake of creating peace.

Everyone in the world preaches that they don't want war, but those who speak against war are the ones who are selling arms to other countries by making war. It is so ridiculous and inhumane that important policy makers of the world say they are for peace. You see that most of the civilians who die in war are mostly women and children. In fact, when the conscience of the world will wake up, people will get back their basic rights and their country too.

It is usually the European country America that does this kind of campaign, usually the European countries are more involved in this kind of activities.  Because they spread war between the two countries, they gave protection from different sides and started giving arms, that's how they do the business of asylum in the present day.  For example, Israel has made the country a tool for their money and arms smuggling, supporting them against every other country.

[Ndabagi01]

Fight between Iran and Israel
I heard it on news that a great fight is currently on between this two countries

I haven't heard of much war conflict between Iran and Israel but I have heard of Israel's war with Palestine.  I have seen and heard a lot of horrors in the war between Palestine and Israel.  I saw Iran supporting Palestine.  I always think if Palestine win I always support Palestine.  I never support Israel because my blood cannot accept Israel.  But you can analyze what you have heard a little bit better.

If you’ve come across the genocide going on in Palestine, you will not want to side the Isrealites or their stories of calling Palestine a place with terrorist organizations or even trying to reclaim the land they said it was theirs. The Iran are standing strong against them despite having back ups from the US. I don’t think if Iran didn’t intervene into this, Palestine might have faced a more serious damage than they’ve taken so far since the killing of innocent people began. I see most of the videos on the killings on Instagram and can’t help but to feel pity for them and pray for freedom for them soon. Killing your fellow human is unjust and an indisputable crime. I hope help comes to them soon and they’ll be free like every other human on earth today. It’s just too saddd.

[Hispo]

Fight between Iran and Israel
I heard it on news that a great fight is currently on between this two countries

I haven't heard of much war conflict between Iran and Israel but I have heard of Israel's war with Palestine.  I have seen and heard a lot of horrors in the war between Palestine and Israel.  I saw Iran supporting Palestine.  I always think if Palestine win I always support Palestine.  I never support Israel because my blood cannot accept Israel.  But you can analyze what you have heard a little bit better.

If you’ve come across the genocide going on in Palestine, you will not want to side the Isrealites or their stories of calling Palestine a place with terrorist organizations or even trying to reclaim the land they said it was theirs. The Iran are standing strong against them despite having back ups from the US. I don’t think if Iran didn’t intervene into this, Palestine might have faced a more serious damage than they’ve taken so far since the killing of innocent people began. I see most of the videos on the killings on Instagram and can’t help but to feel pity for them and pray for freedom for them soon. Killing your fellow human is unjust and an indisputable crime. I hope help comes to them soon and they’ll be free like every other human on earth today. It’s just too saddd.

I was not even aware one could find those kind of videos of the War between Hamas and Israel on platforms like Instagram, to be honest. I heard Meta was trying to censor or limit access to information on politics, specially foreign politics like those ones. Anyways, to me it would seem Israel continues to escalate the conflict in the middle east for the sake of getting rid of their political and ideological enemies: Hamas and Hezbollah.
But it is obvious Israel is not willing to allow the Palestinian people to enjoy their right to their own state and society, hence that is why Israel tries to steal the land from them and settle their own armed people to colonize captured territory, even though it is illegal and it would be called an invasion in any other country did it, Israel continues to bear an special treatment from the government of the United States and her allies in Europe.
News coming from Lebanon and the use of missiles against the civilian population is just devastating, and senseless.

[Kavelj22]

News coming from Lebanon and the use of missiles against the civilian population is just devastating, and senseless.

Unfortunately, the recent events in Lebanon are painful and worrying. The repeated Israeli bombing of various areas in Lebanon is causing loss of life and property, and is increasing tension in the region.

It is clear that Israel has decided to expand the scope of the war beyond Gaza to include Lebanon as well. The latest news indicates the death of more than 70 civilians as a result of the bombing of various areas in Lebanon during the past 24 hours, which caused extensive destruction of the infrastructure and the displacement of tens of thousands to safe areas.

Israel announced the reject of any truce agreement and will not stop the war until it achieves its goals, which are to dismantle the military system of Hezbollah, and did not hesitate to announce its preparation for a massive ground invasion.

On the other front in Gaza, the bombing is still ongoing and humanitarian organizations have confirmed that Gaza has been completely destroyed and is no longer fit for life.

The declared international positions condemn the Israeli military policy of targeting civilian buildings and facilities in both Gaza and Lebanon, but at the same time declare their continued support for Israel in its war against what it called "terrorism."

Honestly, I cannot find the right words to express my anger at what is happening in the face of complete international silence. It is true that what is happening is horrific by all standards, but it exposes the hypocrisy of the international community in its claim to support freedoms, human rights and unity under the umbrella of the so-called "United Nations" as the world's parliament. Israel does not give any consideration to this organization or to the agreements that have been ratified, and it is supported in this by the positions of the major countries that either support it with weapons and money, or are complicit with silence.

[Hispo]

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It is a little bit off topic, but the behavior and the silence of the United Nations on the current situation going on in Lebanon reminds me how they also seem to purposely ignore other situations going on in other countries, like mine, in which we had some presidential elections which were completely rigged by the ruling party in order for them to continue in power. So we are basically living under a dictatorship, and still UN does not seem to care to give us support to transition back to democracy. As if the people of Israel are more valuable in the United States and the UN than the rest of the world, developed countries included.  

The worst part about this whole mess is that Lebanon would be called out for trying to defend themselves from these alledgedly targeted attacks.
One should not sacrifice civilian lives like this just to guarantee the elimination of top officials in Hezbollah...

[aoluain]

Fight between Iran and Israel
I heard it on news that a great fight is currently on between this two countries

I haven't heard of much war conflict between Iran and Israel but I have heard of Israel's war with Palestine.  I have seen and heard a lot of horrors in the war between Palestine and Israel.  I saw Iran supporting Palestine.  I always think if Palestine win I always support Palestine.  I never support Israel because my blood cannot accept Israel.  But you can analyze what you have heard a little bit better.

If you’ve come across the genocide going on in Palestine, you will not want to side the Isrealites or their stories of calling Palestine a place with terrorist organizations or even trying to reclaim the land they said it was theirs. The Iran are standing strong against them despite having back ups from the US. I don’t think if Iran didn’t intervene into this, Palestine might have faced a more serious damage than they’ve taken so far since the killing of innocent people began. I see most of the videos on the killings on Instagram and can’t help but to feel pity for them and pray for freedom for them soon. Killing your fellow human is unjust and an indisputable crime. I hope help comes to them soon and they’ll be free like every other human on earth today. It’s just too saddd.

Iran are not standing strong, all they can do is continue to supply arms to the
likes of Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthi rebels in Yemen. As Israel gets ready
for a ground invasion Iran will most likely not get directly involved.

Fight between Iran and Israel
I heard it on news that a great fight is currently on between this two countries

I haven't heard of much war conflict between Iran and Israel but I have heard of Israel's war with Palestine.  I have seen and heard a lot of horrors in the war between Palestine and Israel.  I saw Iran supporting Palestine.  I always think if Palestine win I always support Palestine.  I never support Israel because my blood cannot accept Israel.  But you can analyze what you have heard a little bit better.

If you’ve come across the genocide going on in Palestine, you will not want to side the Isrealites or their stories of calling Palestine a place with terrorist organizations or even trying to reclaim the land they said it was theirs. The Iran are standing strong against them despite having back ups from the US. I don’t think if Iran didn’t intervene into this, Palestine might have faced a more serious damage than they’ve taken so far since the killing of innocent people began. I see most of the videos on the killings on Instagram and can’t help but to feel pity for them and pray for freedom for them soon. Killing your fellow human is unjust and an indisputable crime. I hope help comes to them soon and they’ll be free like every other human on earth today. It’s just too saddd.

I was not even aware one could find those kind of videos of the War between Hamas and Israel on platforms like Instagram, to be honest. I heard Meta was trying to censor or limit access to information on politics, specially foreign politics like those ones. Anyways, to me it would seem Israel continues to escalate the conflict in the middle east for the sake of getting rid of their political and ideological enemies: Hamas and Hezbollah.
But it is obvious Israel is not willing to allow the Palestinian people to enjoy their right to their own state and society, hence that is why Israel tries to steal the land from them and settle their own armed people to colonize captured territory, even though it is illegal and it would be called an invasion in any other country did it, Israel continues to bear an special treatment from the government of the United States and her allies in Europe.
News coming from Lebanon and the use of missiles against the civilian population is just devastating, and senseless.

Hispo, we are both on the same page in relation to Israel but stop calling what
they are doing to the Palestinians a "war" it is an invasion, annihilation a subjugation.

You are right about stealing Palestinian land, I called it when the invasion started
and here a CNN report.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/middleeast/israel-far-right-gaza-settler-movement-cmd-intl/index.html

Look at the images in that report, you will see the rejoice in those terrorists
at the utter destruction of Gaza.

[Kavelj22]

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It is a little bit off topic, but the behavior and the silence of the United Nations on the current situation going on in Lebanon reminds me how they also seem to purposely ignore other situations going on in other countries, like mine, in which we had some presidential elections which were completely rigged by the ruling party in order for them to continue in power. So we are basically living under a dictatorship, and still UN does not seem to care to give us support to transition back to democracy. As if the people of Israel are more valuable in the United States and the UN than the rest of the world, developed countries included.  

The worst part about this whole mess is that Lebanon would be called out for trying to defend themselves from these alledgedly targeted attacks.
One should not sacrifice civilian lives like this just to guarantee the elimination of top officials in Hezbollah...

The conflict in the Middle East is a mirror of savagery and barbarism that civilization has not succeeded in eliminating despite progress and development in all fields. It is not a conflict over energy sources or natural resources because the region has enough for everyone and is capable of uniting everyone and coexisting in peace. It is an ideological war par excellence and that is why all weapons are used in it without taking into account any moral standards or human boundaries.

When I say "the conflict in the Middle East" I mean two conflicting powers, Iran and Israel, because the Arab countries no longer have any income and are content to be the battlefield. Israel seeks to strengthen its presence to complete the "Greater Israel" project, so it directs its policies to displace the Palestinians and occupy the entire land before moving on to the stage of expansion to other countries, and Iran wants to protect its influence in the region and considers Israel a direct enemy because Israel threatens that influence because it also threatens its influence in turn. Of course, the victims are civilians from the areas that each pole of power seeks to impose its control over, which currently includes parts of Syria, Lebanon and Iraq in addition to the Gaza Strip.

[pooya87]

and Iran wants to protect its influence in the region and considers Israel a direct enemy because Israel threatens that influence

That's what the propaganda wants you to believe.

The problem with Israel is its radical ideology called Zionism. The Zionists believe that anybody who is not a Zionist (a race that you can only be born into from your mother side) is an animal and has to be treated that way. (This is why they murder anybody including children so violently and without remorse).
They also believe that the world population must not exceed 1 billion and they should cleanse the earth from non-Zionists which means murdering 7 out of every 8 human being on the planet and enslave the rest.

What they call "Greater Israel" is eventually a global dominating power that rules the earth.

This is the problem Iran and any other country in the world who knows what Zionism cult stands for has with Israel.
Otherwise Iran as the oldest civilization on earth that has deep rooted cultural and ideological links in half the world has had "influence" for thousands of years and that influence doesn't need protection specially from something as insignificant as Israel that is a foreign and unwanted object injected into the world.

[FinePoine0]

Fight between Iran and Israel
I heard it on news that a great fight is currently on between this two countries

Israel is generally a bad-tempered country, but the Israeli team was not there to fight Iran at all.  After the death of Ibrahim Raisi a few days ago, Israel turned its back on Iran.  In the past Iran country was very dangerous then Israel team was very afraid because Iran country was ready to fight at any time.  Iran is currently under a lot of panic, usually due to plane crashes.

[aoluain]

and Iran wants to protect its influence in the region and considers Israel a direct enemy because Israel threatens that influence

That's what the propaganda wants you to believe.

The problem with Israel is its radical ideology called Zionism. The Zionists believe that anybody who is not a Zionist (a race that you can only be born into from your mother side) is an animal and has to be treated that way. (This is why they murder anybody including children so violently and without remorse).
They also believe that the world population must not exceed 1 billion and they should cleanse the earth from non-Zionists which means murdering 7 out of every 8 human being on the planet and enslave the rest.

What they call "Greater Israel" is eventually a global dominating power that rules the earth.

This is the problem Iran and any other country in the world who knows what Zionism cult stands for has with Israel.
Otherwise Iran as the oldest civilization on earth that has deep rooted cultural and ideological links in half the world has had "influence" for thousands of years and that influence doesn't need protection specially from something as insignificant as Israel that is a foreign and unwanted object injected into the world.

And here are some excerpts from an article I have read from the Guardian
newspaper in which a former IDF officer and expert in  Genocide writes about the
similarities of Nazi Germany and the thinking of Zionist far Right Israel.

I certainly believe now that Israel believes it has a right to do whatever it believes
to be right and self serving anywhere in the region even if it means attacking
Iranian targets or targets anywhere else in Lebanon

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/israel-gaza-historian-omer-bartov

In mid-July 1941, just weeks after Germany launched what Hitler had proclaimed to be a “war of annihilation” against the Soviet Union, a German noncommissioned officer wrote home from the eastern front:

The German people owe a great debt to our Führer, for had these beasts, who are our enemies here, come to Germany, such murders would have taken place that the world has never seen before … What we have seen … borders on the unbelievable … And when one reads Der Stürmer [a Nazi newspaper] and looks at the pictures, that is only a weak illustration of what we see here and the crimes committed here by the Jews.

An army propaganda leaflet issued in June 1941 paints a similarly nightmarish picture of Red Army political officers, which many soldiers soon perceived as a reflection of reality:

Anyone who has ever looked at the face of a Red commissar knows what the Bolsheviks are like. Here there is no need for theoretical expressions. We would insult the animals if we described these mostly Jewish men as beasts. They are the embodiment of the satanic and insane hatred against the whole of noble humanity … [They] would have brought an end to all meaningful life, had this eruption not been dammed at the last moment.

Two days after the Hamas attack, defence minister Yoav Gallant declared, “We are fighting human animals, and we must act accordingly,” later adding that Israel would “break apart one neighbourhood after another in Gaza”. Former prime minister Naftali Bennett confirmed: “We are fighting Nazis.” Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu exhorted Israelis to “remember what Amalek has done to you”, alluding to the biblical call to exterminate Amalek’s “men and women, children and infants”. In a radio interview, he said about Hamas: “I don’t call them human animals because that would be insulting to animals.” Deputy Knesset speaker Nissim Vaturi wrote on X that Israel’s goal should be “erasing the Gaza Strip from the face of the Earth”. On Israeli TV he stated, “There are no uninvolved people … we must go in there and kill, kill, kill. We must kill them before they kill us.” Finance minister Bezalel Smotrich stressed in a speech, “The work must be completed … Total destruction. ‘Blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.’” Avi Dichter, agriculture minister and former head of the Shin Bet intelligence service, spoke about “rolling out the Gaza Nakba”. One Israeli 95-year-old military veteran, whose motivational speech to IDF troops preparing for the invasion of Gaza exhorted them to “wipe out their memory, their families, mothers and children”, was given a certificate of honour by Israeli president Herzog for “providing a wonderful example to generations of soldiers”. No wonder that there have been innumerable social media posts by IDF troops in Gaza calling to “kill the Arabs”, “burn their mothers” and “flatten” Gaza. There has been no known disciplinary action by their commanders.

[Lida93]

Fight between Iran and Israel
I heard it on news that a great fight is currently on between this two countries

Israel is generally a bad-tempered country, but the Israeli team was not there to fight Iran at all.  After the death of Ibrahim Raisi a few days ago, Israel turned its back on Iran.  In the past Iran country was very dangerous then Israel team was very afraid because Iran country was ready to fight at any time.  Iran is currently under a lot of panic, usually due to plane crashes.

The news is that Iran has declared that they fully ready for war with Isreal and has launched hypersonic ballistic missiles for the first time on Isreal. This action doesn't make for a country that's said to be under panic.

https://twitter.com/naziakhan455/status/1841183819275059291?t=2Ftv2ch2U6oRTqnSNBB8cA&s=19

An action many are presuming to be a third world war in focus but I AFAIK  this is still a regional war not until any intervention from either the USA or Russia then we are sure of a full blown world war3. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

[BADecker]

Here we go! This will affect all the civilized countries of the world, even if they don't take part.


War Begins: Iranian Ballistic Missiles Rain Down On Israel - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/white-house-warns-iran-imminently-launch-ballistic-missiles-israel


Israel Launches Ground Invasion Of Lebanon: Operation Northern Arrows - https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/netanyahus-war-seven-fronts-massive-new-attacks-yemen-syria-central-beirut

[pooya87]

An action many are presuming to be a third world war in focus but I AFAIK  this is still a regional war not until any intervention from either the USA or Russia then we are sure of a full blown world war3. Hopefully it doesn't come to that.

This is unlikely to lead to anything other than the genocide in Gaza ending soon. Although nothing is impossible because we can not measure stupidity of those decision makers in the West.

You see the unbelievable level of fire power that Iran showcases tonight (which is only a tiny fraction of Iran's total strength) would make any of the so called "powers" in this world think twice before messing with Iran. US, Russia and China combined are not even capable of launching this many hypersonic ballistic missiles in such a short period (in matter of minutes). I don't even think they own as many HBMs as Iran launched tonight

BTW I started a dedicated topic about tonight's operation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5511403.0

[goldkingcoiner]

here is the live White House Briefing

[cocadalcan]

Fight between Iran and Israel
I heard it on news that a great fight is currently on between this two countries

Israel is generally a bad-tempered country, but the Israeli team was not there to fight Iran at all.  After the death of Ibrahim Raisi a few days ago, Israel turned its back on Iran.  In the past Iran country was very dangerous then Israel team was very afraid because Iran country was ready to fight at any time.  Iran is currently under a lot of panic, usually due to plane crashes.

A possible Israeli attack on Iran is likely to further destabilize the situation in the Middle East. A show of strength is going on through the war but if this money could be allocated to the poor people they would benefit a lot. There are many countries in the world where poor people are starving and powerful countries are selling weapons and encouraging the escalation of war.