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September 17, 2024, 02:11:24 AM
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It reminds me the scam scheme of donating to receive a bonus for the donation you have just done. It's definitely not a giveaway or airdrop, as such offers don't involve the participants having to give money from their own pockets to participate. These offers can demand you to complete a task, but you give only your effort in counterpart for the final payment. Even if you hear some people saying it's legit, I believe it's not a good idea to join, because there is a high chance it's a ponzi scheme.

Unfortunatelly crypto industry is full of scammers and I risk saying there are more scammers than ever right now. Very few offers are legit these days and worth to be executed for small amounts of profit.

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September 17, 2024, 05:43:08 AM
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It reminds me the scam scheme of donating to receive a bonus for the donation you have just done. It's definitely not a giveaway or airdrop, as such offers don't involve the participants having to give money from their own pockets to participate. These offers can demand you to complete a task, but you give only your effort in counterpart for the final payment. Even if you hear some people saying it's legit, I believe it's not a good idea to join, because there is a high chance it's a ponzi scheme.

Unfortunatelly crypto industry is full of scammers and I risk saying there are more scammers than ever right now. Very few offers are legit these days and worth to be executed for small amounts of profit.

It may ring a bell or two for everybody involved, and it's everybody's responsibility to look into any project that may request additional funds to be even eligible or to get bonuses from it.
It may turn out badly in the end, though, it all depends on the credibility of such a project and who supports them, with who they collab, etc.
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September 17, 2024, 07:18:40 AM
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The above topic was birthed by this post claiming TapSwap was a scam which I refuted a while ago as nothing monetary was mandated whatsoever. But today, I point out a real scam if at all one should be called out in this manner, and that is the Xempire airdrop structured plan to allocate the airdrop.

I've always known airdrops to be free giveaways, but not in this case anymore and the two pictures below speak enough volumes already. This nonsense is no more worth it.



Imagine, after many tasks were done over time without knowing, suddenly when the effort is about to bear fruit the project is requesting for more, perhaps something many people will not be able to afford/sacrifice. What a waste of time! Xempire mandates you to make a TON transaction before you are eligible to airdrop and when I tried to check where the gross approach was heading, I discovered you have to part ways with a whole 0.5 TON, who does that? For what you are not even sure of the price or receive something up to the 0.5 TON's worth? This is pathetic.
This is not just sad but also pathetic by this Xempire developers, they know very well what they are doing, because I believe that this was not stated at the beginning of the project, because if most people knew of this, they wouldn't have even engage in it, all my time doing airdrop, I have always seen those developers that that want you to pay a certain amount of money before you will be considered for the airdrop as scam, and this particular one has all the trademark of scammers, and to be frank, it would be foolish to pay such and amount to them which we all know that it's not gas as requested by ton keeper.

So it's a very good thing awareness is being created already for most of this newbies that doesn't know how these airdrop scam works, just imagine how much they will make if like one thousand users decide to do their bidding and pay such an amount to them? So the advice I am going to give to all airdrop hunters is that, they should take any project that demands payment from them as a scam, and to me that's the best way of thinking when hunting for airdrops.











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September 17, 2024, 08:53:33 AM
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I've always known airdrops to be free giveaways, but not in this case anymore and the two pictures below speak enough volumes already. This nonsense is no more worth it.


Not all airdrops are actually free there are some retroactive airdrops that are not free because they need you to engage on their platform like a testnet daily which usually requires gas fees but if you look at this airdrops and this tap airdrops they don’t set a fee that they want it is the transaction fee during the testnet period, this fees are way too low to be considered even a fee but the rate at which this telegram mini app are going I think people will soon realize that they are milking them.
The true airdrops must be free or at least make the payment optional (voluntarily), all you need to do is to complete some tasks, which should not be monetary. Though you have a point, the project matters, like the Testnet and others, but this Testnet of a thing was not like this in the OP, people knew what they were signing for and it was honourable when crypto was still crypto and not how everything was turning now.

Many would even participate in the Testnet and will not expect anything in return because they believe in a project, so it's just like technically sponsoring the project in their little way. But there are too many crooks flooding the internet in the name of airdrops now, especially Telegram and mostly now the TON blockchain. It's just annoying and even their tokens after listing are often worse shitcoins. The success of Notcoin has made them gain popularity but this will soon fade away just like their former ways of toying with people's emotions in the name of airdrops.

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September 17, 2024, 09:08:29 AM
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The true airdrops must be free or at least make the payment optional (voluntarily), all you need to do is to complete some tasks, which should not be monetary. Though you have a point, the project matters, like the Testnet and others, but this Testnet of a thing was not like this in the OP, people knew what they were signing for and it was honourable when crypto was still crypto and not how everything was turning now.

Many would even participate in the Testnet and will not expect anything in return because they believe in a project, so it's just like technically sponsoring the project in their little way. But there are too many crooks flooding the internet in the name of airdrops now, especially Telegram and mostly now the TON blockchain. It's just annoying and even their tokens after listing are often worse shitcoins. The success of Notcoin has made them gain popularity but this will soon fade away just like their former ways of toying with people's emotions in the name of airdrops.

We can see it when there is a popular and profitable project. there will be thousands of scammers. we also saw some time ago how the airdrop on the Solana network was popular and many tokens were born and then disappeared.
It will not be much different from what is happening now on the TON blockchain. you are right, airdrops should be free. no fees to claim NFTs or make deposits to increase mining speed. we see a lot of such projects now. maybe not all of them are scams, but more of them end up scams.

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September 17, 2024, 09:14:24 AM
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The true airdrops must be free or at least make the payment optional (voluntarily), all you need to do is to complete some tasks, which should not be monetary. Though you have a point, the project matters, like the Testnet and others, but this Testnet of a thing was not like this in the OP, people knew what they were signing for and it was honourable when crypto was still crypto and not how everything was turning now.

Many would even participate in the Testnet and will not expect anything in return because they believe in a project, so it's just like technically sponsoring the project in their little way. But there are too many crooks flooding the internet in the name of airdrops now, especially Telegram and mostly now the TON blockchain. It's just annoying and even their tokens after listing are often worse shitcoins. The success of Notcoin has made them gain popularity but this will soon fade away just like their former ways of toying with people's emotions in the name of airdrops.

We can see it when there is a popular and profitable project. there will be thousands of scammers. we also saw some time ago how the airdrop on the Solana network was popular and many tokens were born and then disappeared.
It will not be much different from what is happening now on the TON blockchain. you are right, airdrops should be free. no fees to claim NFTs or make deposits to increase mining speed. we see a lot of such projects now. maybe not all of them are scams, but more of them end up scams.

Though one case would be a rent for the NFTS on the chain - if for signing a contract for such an NFT a bit of TON is needed - it's okay and it's no scam, as far as I know. It's a rent to get in on the chain for a year or for the time it's needed.
That's just what popped up in my head.
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September 17, 2024, 11:14:47 AM
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That's what I don't like about the current airdrop style, which requires spending money and I will ignore it if I meet a model like that, I will not spend a penny on any project, let alone an airdrop event

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September 17, 2024, 11:46:27 AM
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The very point is that some of these mining coins are looking for ways to siphon money from people. That's why I hardly partake in them because this same act of asking for Ton as a way to be eligible for mined coins

It's clear that many of these projects just want to steal money from their users, instead of having to burden users with 0,5 TON in transaction fees, why don't they follow the path that the big projects do, namely by partnering with an exchange that will list their token, so that later transfers can be done off-chain.

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Heck why even bother getting listings on exchanges rather than simply minting your token initially on a platform that has native tokens and native exchange, such as Stellar?

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September 17, 2024, 12:23:30 PM
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Currently I'm level 9 and having heard about the upcoming airdrop, I was thinking of using it actively for few days but the info you provided is a clear sign that its not worth it. Even for users who have spent months, 0.5 Ton is over $2.7 and they are unlikely to get that amount from airdrop.
Same here.

I was flabbergasted by the other post just recently regarding airdrops asking for 0.5 ton not realizing this project is doing the same thing. Not only is Xempire scamming you for your money, they are also scamming you for your time and effort. Yes, it might not be huge of a task but I know some people who played this game religiously lol.

And you’re right they will just be giving out $2.7 for no reason at all. Wasted effort.

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for this part I missed it and indirectly I missed the reward if this is a factor in getting a prize from the airdrop, when I play airdrop to find free coins and can be converted into money so if I have to make a payment like the picture I will not spend  money ,
where if 2 $ in one project then if I do several projects Ton with such costs I am not sure 1 project will give me a financial victory

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This is why I prefer Citizen, participated in Dog's airdrop because it's somewhat owned by Telegram's owner. I will always go into any meaningful one where users can buy more power, play PVP, and fight for higher levels.

Both are still the Same, Catien was all about using money to level up and they rewarded base on the money spent, dog didn’t stress people a lot but they actually did ask for transactions too which was around 0.1ton. And they gave those that Carried out the task extra dogs. Other airdrops requires Stars which is another form of payment. So all of the are same and Sooner or later people will get tired

Yeah, but my point is Citizen Finance gave a reason to level up and that's the difference. But just asking people to send 0.5 TON doesn't look right. If there had been a way for people to purchase higher power and play PVP, then that would be more meaningful instead of trying to raise funds by asking people to send 0.5 TON.
I am agreed with your point, it’s very logical if any project will ask TON fees to upgrade level or unlock new features that's valid, in Catizen some people’s spent even 300$-400$ and they're eligible to receive thousands dollars worth of tokens. But the X Empire is different they asking 0.5 TON to transfer in their WALLET, so if they have a few millions of community members that means they can raise fund millions of dollars, so what's the guarantee they will pay rewards end of the day?

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But the X Empire is different they asking 0.5 TON to transfer in their WALLET, so if they have a few millions of community members that means they can raise fund millions of dollars, so what's the guarantee they will pay rewards end of the day?
There are no guarantees, really; they want to get rich from the pockets of their communities who will pay these irrational fees compared to the cheap Ton network fees, and it is possible that even if they pay the rewards to the players, they will get dust or the value of the coins that may be less than the price of the fees spent.

I had already shared my experience with a Telegram game bot called BYIN [HERE], where they prevented many people from withdrawing their unlocked tokens from the stake, claiming that the wallet address was not whitlisted before the TGE [which was a lie]. The game shows that the withdrawable coins are zero for the TON wallets and has set an arbitrary withdrawal condition for CEX... They also set up a task where you had to spend 0.35 TON to complete the task verification and grant players a significant amount of game tokens. They took the fees without anything happening. In the end, the $BYIN token was listed on an exchange and dropped by over 60% within hours of listing, making the value of the airdrop less than 1 cent, which I was supposed to receive. So, I agree that many games are backed by greedy teams/developers. Clearly, Hamster is one of the Games that exploit players, and I expect it won’t provide worthwhile returns to its participants.

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As soon as I see an airdrop which requieres participants to send any quantity of money for them to become elegible, in my mind can only think it is a scam and I need to stay as away as possible from it.
Actual airdrops, like those from some years ago, like Uniswap, did not require one to send money first to be elegible, it was enough by participating within their ecosystem, providing liquidity and interacting with their smart contracts without giving away our private keys.

In other words, this has deviated from the true nature of crypto airdrops, as if they were only looking for their own profit in planning the airdrop that they would launch, and we would rather say that this has moved towards fraud, many people are heavily affected by this, we suggest that when airdrops with uncertain bases should choose to stay in a safe position.

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Imagine, after many tasks were done over time without knowing, suddenly when the effort is about to bear fruit the project is requesting for more, perhaps something many people will not be able to afford/sacrifice. What a waste of time! Xempire mandates you to make a TON transaction before you are eligible to airdrop and when I tried to check where the gross approach was heading, I discovered you have to part ways with a whole 0.5 TON, who does that? For what you are not even sure of the price or receive something up to the 0.5 TON's worth? This is pathetic.

This project right here is a scam and there's going to be more of projects like this that'll be launching in disguise as Airdrops because many people are interested in tapping airdrops. You're enlighten about scams like this that's why you didn't fall for their tricks but sadly some newbies are going to become victims of this exact scam either from this project or from other projects that'll be arranged in this way. Airdrops should be free and required little efforts because airdrop are marketing strategies to bring in new users to the project. Any airdrop asking you for money is going to be a scam because the project only want your money that's why they're launching their airdrop. Many Airdrops aren't going to be worth it anymore that's why I didn't bother to do all the new trending airdrops. I don't want to risk exposing my device to sites that I don't trust and giving out my social media handles to scammers.

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too much grifters in ton space right now, people should be alert that not all project in ton ecosystem are legit and this one is example of how the project just trying to profit off people.

if it's retroactive where people just need to make tx, doesn't matter where the money go then it's fine but clearly demanding money is really cheap move, the fact that they even don't try to give clear explanation about what the task really is, on its own is a red flag, the developer know people won't send them 0.5 TON so they try to be discreet.

I'd say, only follow the project that got endorsed official ton team.

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I saw a similar pattern of fee requirement with one of those telegram game, called "Rocky rabbit" I also created a topic about it just like the first comment pointed out.

People, especially crypto newbies who doesn't have any idea about all these scam, needs to be informed so that they will not end up make the mistake of wasting their money on these airdrops, believing that they would make huge profit from it.

Some people (newbies) are thinking that it's the number of points they have in those games that will be distributed to them, they have not yet realized that allocation will he made from some criteria, that's to show how uniformed most players are.

If you know someone that knows people that are playing this games, please warn them, I know most people are not on this forum but for the few people that are here, do good to discourage players of those game from paying any transaction fee that is more than $1, unless the person is willing to accept the lose.

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The true airdrops must be free or at least make the payment optional (voluntarily), all you need to do is to complete some tasks, which should not be monetary. Though you have a point, the project matters, like the Testnet and others, but this Testnet of a thing was not like this in the OP, people knew what they were signing for and it was honourable when crypto was still crypto and not how everything was turning now.

Many would even participate in the Testnet and will not expect anything in return because they believe in a project, so it's just like technically sponsoring the project in their little way. But there are too many crooks flooding the internet in the name of airdrops now, especially Telegram and mostly now the TON blockchain. It's just annoying and even their tokens after listing are often worse shitcoins. The success of Notcoin has made them gain popularity but this will soon fade away just like their former ways of toying with people's emotions in the name of airdrops.

We can see it when there is a popular and profitable project. there will be thousands of scammers. we also saw some time ago how the airdrop on the Solana network was popular and many tokens were born and then disappeared.
It will not be much different from what is happening now on the TON blockchain. you are right, airdrops should be free. no fees to claim NFTs or make deposits to increase mining speed. we see a lot of such projects now. maybe not all of them are scams, but more of them end up scams.

Though one case would be a rent for the NFTS on the chain - if for signing a contract for such an NFT a bit of TON is needed - it's okay and it's no scam, as far as I know. It's a rent to get in on the chain for a year or for the time it's needed.
That's just what popped up in my head.
You have a good point, but this is not about NFT, there is a separate case for that on the app as they have the NFT in a big form. Another good reason to collect money is the Testnet but unfortunately, the situation here is beyond that, it's senseless and selfish. TON never asked anyone for money and the airdrop project is not such that needed money because some had done it ahead of them requesting $0 from people and had airdropped successfully.

But now, the gimmicks have graduated to being fraudulent but it could have been less painful if people had known earlier rather than after investing their time they would still not be able to afford the 0.5 TON for the airdrop or be forced to do so. These guys are only cashing out on people's desperation for money and are making themselves so rich even if their projects fail. That means money for them from marketing, money for them from the rug pull possibility and money for them from people's non-refundable deposits. This awkful!

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September 18, 2024, 12:03:08 PM
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You have a good point, but this is not about NFT, there is a separate case for that on the app as they have the NFT in a big form. Another good reason to collect money is the Testnet but unfortunately, the situation here is beyond that, it's senseless and selfish. TON never asked anyone for money and the airdrop project is not such that needed money because some had done it ahead of them requesting $0 from people and had airdropped successfully.

But now, the gimmicks have graduated to being fraudulent but it could have been less painful if people had known earlier rather than after investing their time they would still not be able to afford the 0.5 TON for the airdrop or be forced to do so. These guys are only cashing out on people's desperation for money and are making themselves so rich even if their projects fail. That means money for them from marketing, money for them from the rug pull possibility and money for them from people's non-refundable deposits. This awkful!

Yeah, it seems like it, however, everybody decides for themselves.
Many projects take some fees for themselves for the bonuses or other boons instead, it becomes a common practice. An entry fee of sorts.
If you do believe in the project - you would do it, hands down.
And you will see where the money would flow afterward in the Tonscan or explorers like that.
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September 18, 2024, 12:30:55 PM
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Imagine, after many tasks were done over time without knowing, suddenly when the effort is about to bear fruit the project is requesting for more, perhaps something many people will not be able to afford/sacrifice. What a waste of time! Xempire mandates you to make a TON transaction before you are eligible to airdrop and when I tried to check where the gross approach was heading, I discovered you have to part ways with a whole 0.5 TON, who does that? For what you are not even sure of the price or receive something up to the 0.5 TON's worth? This is pathetic.
It is the new scamming scheme now through the telegram airdrop tapping fever that is invoke. I also discovered another similar one yesterday through a  colleague who requested for my assistance in making the 0.5 Ton transaction for him in order that he will be eligible for the airdrop, they call it Rocky Rabbit. Lol Grin At first I tried convincing him not to waste his money as much as he has wasted his time cos the project appears to not be genuine but he still insisted  he has to do the task. I granted his request waiting to see how that works for him eventually.
Funny how they place a limited time counter to put pressure on their victims that they carryout the task of sending the 0.5 ton. Am not against airdrops for I have made some fortune from it in past times but experience has thought me that genuine airdrop project that will pay it's loyal community won't necessarily have to take from them first.

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