How obnoxious are moderators who modify posts just because they can?

[nutildah]

Ah, sometimes these heated Meta posts just make me giggle like times of old.  I didn't spit my coffee out just now, but it's as close as I've gotten to it in a long-ass time.

I know this account from some altcoin threads I frequent: he only believes in conspiracies. That may explain his handicap. 

[LoyceV]

I usually respond to different comments from different people by using a separate post, since that is common sense.

Common sense is to copy the second quote and post it in the first message you post.

Bitcointalk has more freedom than any other forum I know, and you somehow break the very few rules there are all the time.

he only believes in conspiracies.

That alone sounds like a conspiracy to me

[Halab]

I usually respond to different comments from different people by using a separate post, since that is common sense.

So why does this rule exist ?
What would the forum look like if all sig spammers made multiple replies like you ?
What does your common sense think about that ?

This forum isn't a chat room, you have plenty of time to reply and use the tools the forum provides (insert quote)
This forum isn't Twitter, you can make long replies as you like.

[SamReomo]

I usually respond to different comments from different people by using a separate post, since that is common sense.

So why does this rule exist ?
What would the forum look like if all sig spammers made multiple replies like you ?
What does your common sense think about that ?

I think he doesn't understand importance of rules and that's why saying such things. If multiple consecutive posts aren't allowed then there's of course a reason for that and some people really don't understand such things. Multiple replies don't make sense when one could easily quote multiple user's comments within a single post. I guess he should rethink and take his words back.

[fikrett]

I usually respond to different comments from different people by using a separate post, since that is common sense.

So why does this rule exist ?
What would the forum look like if all sig spammers made multiple replies like you ?
What does your common sense think about that ?

I think he doesn't understand importance of rules and that's why saying such things. If multiple consecutive posts aren't allowed then there's of course a reason for that and some people really don't understand such things. Multiple replies don't make sense when one could easily quote multiple user's comments within a single post. I guess he should rethink and take his words back.

Yeah, it would be just more convenient when the possibility is there.
It's just a little bit of extra time and effort. Rules are rules.

[hilariousandco]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5509728.msg64554551#msg64554551

September 20, 2024, 11:06:22 PM
Last edit: September 21, 2024, 09:43:56 PM by Mr. Big

So the moderator "Mr Big" a) does not understand why there is a rule about consecutive posts, then he breaks the rule about moderating by leaving out the text saying "posts merged by moderator".

Point simply being that somebody too fucking stupid to understand why a rule exists should not be enforcing it.

There is no rule that mods need to do this; it's just done as a courtesy.

[Cricktor]

I have a proposal for @PowerGlove:
Any user reported violating forum rule #32 (no consecutive posts except for bumping when a bump is allowed) and forcing mods to spend their time to clean up such moron's mess should get some "failure count" attached. If a threshold is reached, like with fail2ban, such users get a temporary cool-down ban.

If you collect too many temporary cool-down bans within a certain period of time, your cool-down ban time is doubled.

Even this temporary ban evasion should've serious consequences.


I wouldn't have issues if this is extended to more of deliberate violations of forum rules by wannabee-smart-asses who think only their own rules (if any) matter for them. Not sure if they simply don't have the cognitive capacity to understand why certain rules exist and why those are necessary to avoid mess & chaos in a forum like this.

Don't get me wrong, I don't value or appreciate blindly following rules for the sake of it. But when rules have good reasons, it should be common sense to follow them. If you don't understand the reasons, it's your problem, don't make it a problem for all else.

[PowerGlove]

I have a proposal for @PowerGlove: (...)

I've already done one rule-32 patch (here). I mean, I took a much gentler approach than the one you're suggesting, but, I think a simple warning is a good place to start.

Maybe if you bump that topic, theymos will consider adding it...

(There's only so much patch-advocating and theymos-bugging that I'm willing to do myself.)

[LoyceV]

I have a proposal for @PowerGlove:
Any user reported violating forum rule #32 (no consecutive posts except for bumping when a bump is allowed) and forcing mods to spend their time to clean up such moron's mess should get some "failure count" attached. If a threshold is reached, like with fail2ban, such users get a temporary cool-down ban.

Meanwhile, there are users with tens or even hundreds of deleted posts, and they're not banned. A few consecutive posts are a lot less annoying than plain spam. Get that counter for every deleted post

[JollyGood]

Many of us have had our posts deleted at one time or another, some without proper understanding or explanation and others with. If it is off-topic then the post probably should not have been made.

Keeping in mind making back to back posts will result in a moderator merging them sometimes along with a message about consecutive posts, that is problematic in my opinion however for you to state moderator changed the text, I cannot recall reading about that before. Post a link with the modified post along with the original unedited text too in order to verify what actually happened.

I've had many posts deleted. Once I reposted a deleted post and the moderator changed the text. Now with this username there have been no outright deletions, but a moderator combines any two posts into one then sends the message

[PrimeHunter2023]

Many of us have had our posts deleted at one time or another, some without proper understanding or explanation and others with. If it is off-topic then the post probably should not have been made.

Keeping in mind making back to back posts will result in a moderator merging them sometimes along with a message about consecutive posts, that is problematic in my opinion however for you to state moderator changed the text, I cannot recall reading about that before. Post a link with the modified post along with the original unedited text too in order to verify what actually happened.

I've had many posts deleted. Once I reposted a deleted post and the moderator changed the text. Now with this username there have been no outright deletions, but a moderator combines any two posts into one then sends the message

The past post where a moderator changed text I do not have a link to, if I remember what thread I'll link.

In this thread the moderator changed the tenor of my response by merging two separate responses to two different people then added a horizontal line to change the style of my original post.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5509728.msg64554551#msg64554551

September 20, 2024, 11:06:22 PM
Last edit: September 21, 2024, 09:43:56 PM by Mr. Big

There was no reason for the moderator to make those changes except to 'prove' his authority i.e., the authority of a poodle that nips your ankles.

[hosseinimr93]

In this thread the moderator changed the tenor of my response by merging two separate responses to two different people then added a horizontal line to change the style of my original post.

Mr. Big added the horizontal line to separate your replies and you should be thankful to him. He could delete your post without merging it with your other post.
It's you who broke the rules. Mr. Big did his job greatly.

[PrimeHunter2023]

In this thread the moderator changed the tenor of my response by merging two separate responses to two different people then added a horizontal line to change the style of my original post.

Mr. Big added the horizontal line to separate your replies and you should be thankful to him. He could delete your post without merging it with your other post.
It's you who broke the rules. Mr. Big did his job greatly.

He added stylistic edits without mentioning that those are his edits not mine.

If you want your posts etc to be edited without your approval that is your business.

[LoyceV]

He added stylistic edits without mentioning that those are his edits not mine.

You could of course stop breaking the rules if you don't like Mods to touch your posts.

[aliveNFT]

He added stylistic edits without mentioning that those are his edits not mine.
If you want your posts etc to be edited without your approval that is your business.

I don't understand what the question is? Do you want no one to edit your posts and everything to be according to your rules?

1. Go to https://download.simplemachines.org
2. install the necessary dependencies
3. edit the code for yourself

After completing these tasks, no one else will be able to edit your posts and you will be the king, the ruler, the president... and many more cool names.
And if you still want to be here, then accept that there are such situations when you break rules they can edit your posts and nothing can be done about them.

As for the fact that the modified posts must be signed, that they were edited - this is a personal matter for the moderators themselves. In any case, they won't change anything to something offensive or inarticulate.

[JollyGood]

Earlier you gave the impression your posts were edited in a different manner altogether. However, if this is what you are complaining about it means you are wasting your time thinking you will get support for such a trivial insignificant matter. If you are concerned about moderators merging posts because a member does not adhere to the rules, this is a non-issue and seems to be you using this thread for attention-seeking purposes.

In this thread the moderator changed the tenor of my response by merging two separate responses to two different people then added a horizontal line to change the style of my original post.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5509728.msg64554551#msg64554551

September 20, 2024, 11:06:22 PM
Last edit: September 21, 2024, 09:43:56 PM by Mr. Big

There was no reason for the moderator to make those changes except to 'prove' his authority i.e., the authority of a poodle that nips your ankles.

[Cricktor]

He added stylistic edits without mentioning that those are his edits not mine.

OK, you hero, show real evidence of mod's edits beyond merging your rule breaking consecutive posts. You should be able to do it via https://ninjastic.space when your original posts have been scraped. I don't expect to see anything from you, though.

You're making a fuss out of nothing, ignoring how you embarass yourself. Interesting how you're completely resistant to goodwill advise. OTOH, you're not seeking advise, anyway.

Meanwhile it seems to me the best to cope with you is to put you on ignore. You don't add value in this forum and it's well reflected by your merit/posts ratio. Apparently you don't care to understand and follow simple but efficient rules.

If you want your posts etc to be edited without your approval that is your business.

Guess why many others don't have such issues which you try to inflate here?

[Stalker22]

He added stylistic edits without mentioning that those are his edits not mine.

You are probably the only person on the entire forum who considers adding a single horizontal rule as "stylistic editing". 
Yeah. Next time he should just delete the offending posts, no questions asked. Would that be better?
 

If you want your posts etc to be edited without your approval that is your business.

Did you ask for the admin's or moderator's permission to break the forum rules first? If not, why would they need your approval to correct your mistakes?

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Sometimes a user posts consecutively and replying to each member in form of separate post then in those cases moderator give their time to merge those posts into one to avoid unnecessary extra posts. Some users, mostly newbies do such kind of consecutive posting.

Looks like the mods are being nice, merging the post when they could've just deleted it since it broke the forum rules.

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

I usually respond to different comments from different people by using a separate post, since that is common sense.

In this case the moderator is blindly following 'rules' without understanding the point of the rule, so he or she merges posts.

Obviously the rule about consecutive posts was not meant for different responses to different people on a thread.

Notice further up this page

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5509728.msg64554551#msg64554551

September 20, 2024, 11:06:22 PM
Last edit: September 21, 2024, 09:43:56 PM by Mr. Big

So the moderator "Mr Big" a) does not understand why there is a rule about consecutive posts, then he breaks the rule about moderating by leaving out the text saying "posts merged by moderator".

Point simply being that somebody too fucking stupid to understand why a rule exists should not be enforcing it.

Judging from OP's conversation as shown above, only indicate one thing in common, and by that I mean it shows that he/she has got a whole lot to learn about the forum, ranging from how to quote rightly, and how to communicate effectively via using simple English, as from a brief glance, I just noticed he is fond of using big grammars, of which most times he/she tends to express it  in context wrongly, which might have prompted Moderators to delete his post when they happened to have come across it. And also observed O.P seems to be a kind of person who loves to argue, rather than take correction, of which I will advise he goes learn the forum rules again, and how to quote effectively.

[GeorgeJohn]

The reason of deletion of post by mod, is based know to moderator, sometimes mods moves topics that's not cogent for comprehension to off topic, the reason is best known to moderator, I think they have algorithms or radar they use in detecting posts that's not educative, secondly when several users reported a particular thread that means that the thread lacks cogent information, so it may be liable to move to off topic and if its a response or reply it may be deleted...

The essence of deletion of someone posts is to make the person to improve in writing, I think moderator are been paid to carry out their functions effectively, so they will not like a situation whereby people overflood the community with shitpost, that will likely indicate that most of them is incapable of discharging their duties,  that's the reason posts is been deleted, moves to off topic and also locked by mods.