Can it still be regarded as scam?

[Yatsan]

Incase you're wondering, this post is what inspired this my topic. So It's no news that we are at a period where airdrop projects are flying around thanks to telegram mini app which is where most of these projects are cooking. With the airdrops trend I have come across many topics relating to it especially in the area of scam about some these mining project after which people might have spent their time executing different tasks daily for months just to be told towards its end that they have to pay some TON to stand a chance of gaining from the airdrop which some don't eventually fulfill their promise.

Now from a different angle aside from an airdrop project been regarded to as scammers when they request people to pay some TON and didn't airdropped. What about a scenario where a project after requesting for such payment from participants actually airdropped but to just about 15% of their participants out of a 100% that made that TON payment task. Can that still be regarded as some form of scam? since the notion has been that most of these airdrops that request some fee to be paid don't  usually fulfill their promise.

This is the rise of airlift projects- No doubt, in a space like Telegram, this obviously brings both opportunity and risk. When the payment by a project to pay in TONs or other currencies is required, then that provides a fifty-fifty space for operations considered legitimate and operations that may be fraud.

The situation you describe in which only a small percentage of participants receives contracted air transportation after payment has been made. This raises ethical issues. Most of it is hands-on exploration. This is especially true if the project is marketed as a fair opportunity for all. Although some participants received tokens But a lack of transparency and equitable distribution can still reflect negatively on the project and may be considered misleading.

In the final analysis Participants are expected to research and exercise caution in any project. It is important to pay in advance. The tendency to use airdrops as a marketing tool can blur the boundaries between true community building and opportunistic practices.

Maybe that will not be a scam but most people will still considered that is scam reminds they are not asked to pay some TON before the the airdrop gives. The owner of the project must clarify the procedure to people before they run the airdrop programs so people will not be misunderstanding with the rules. I guess that is miscommunication between the teams and people who want to do many tasks to get the rewards from the airdrop. If the teams can explain about the requirement before they run the project, maybe the misunderstanding will not happen. People will choose the project by themselves and will decide if they want to pay some TON as fees or will search the airdrop programs that will be free.

Therefore, project owners should develop all requirements and procedures relating to wind turbines well ahead of time. This will help to avoid misunderstandings in all participants since transparency tends to ward off fraudulent perceptions.

When people know exactly what they're going to get They can make their decision on whether they like to join or apply free opportunities; it's all about open communication between the project team and the community. When teams focus on clarity, then it may lead to excellent outputs for everyone who is using these resources.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Yes, I will still regard them as scam because if they received TON from 80% of participants, then they should distribute to all those people that paid that fee. If they would only pay to 15%, when then did they accept fee from everyone? They need to return their ton back if they will not give them any reward.

requiring payment without guarantee that they will give out something is a scam, there are other thing that are similar to this called pre-sale but the thing is, presale guarantee token allocation for anyone who bought the token, but requiring payment without giving something in return but empty promise, is pretty much a scam. I wish people can see through this fat lie, but I know some people are so blinded with the prospect of receiving dreamy returns.

You know, the reason why they will only pay a few people is just to kind of make a fulfillment where some people will think that, "after-all, they paid and people that didn't receive were unlucky or didn't do the right thing that will qualify them to get their reward." There's no trick that any of these airdrop developers will play that am not familiar with.

For one of those airdrop that I created a thread for just this week, they requested for 0.5 TON from the airdrop participants and lastly they made an announcement regarding that distribution procedure and from what I understand, they will only distribute 50% reward to each qualified participants and the remaining 50% will be sent to them after 6 months. Years back, I had similar experience with one airdrop and after the first round of distribution, before it could get to the second round, the project has already collapsed.

[Barikui1]

Incase you're wondering, this post is what inspired this my topic. So It's no news that we are at a period where airdrop projects are flying around thanks to telegram mini app which is where most of these projects are cooking. With the airdrops trend I have come across many topics relating to it especially in the area of scam about some these mining project after which people might have spent their time executing different tasks daily for months just to be told towards its end that they have to pay some TON to stand a chance of gaining from the airdrop which some don't eventually fulfill their promise.

Now from a different angle aside from an airdrop project been regarded to as scammers when they request people to pay some TON and didn't airdropped. What about a scenario where a project after requesting for such payment from participants actually airdropped but to just about 15% of their participants out of a 100% that made that TON payment task. Can that still be regarded as some form of scam? since the notion has been that most of these airdrops that request some fee to be paid don't  usually fulfill their promise.

In my opinion, if someone is paying to participate in an airdrop, then they are no longer participating in an airdrop. They are buying a token that they don't even know what the future will be like. It makes no sense to pay to participate in an airdrop. Even if they charged $1 for people to participate in an airdrop, it makes no sense to pay. Imagine how ridiculous it would be for someone to pay $1 to participate in an airdrop and still have to do tasks like share the project link on their social networks or in forum threads. This is crazy. People don't realize that when they are participating in an airdrop, as a condition of being paid, they must perform tasks, so they are not being given free money, they are being paid for the advertising work they are doing. It's the same thing that happens when a company pays a singer to promote the company's products. The singer is not getting free money and I consider it a scam when a project charges participants to participate in an airdrop

Yea, I totally agree with you because it makes no sense that you are going to pay for a product you haven't seen, something you aren't sure of it possible outcome in the future.

Secondly, all my time doing airdrop, I always believe that anything I get from it is as a result of the job I did, and I never believed that I have to pay any amount of my hard earned money to anyone, except for gas fee based on the network, but it's not always, so if a project is demanding for any amount of money, then I think that they are very much likely to be a scam, the ones that are in position to do so that is the network, which we normally termed as gass fee.

So in essence of what am trying to say is that any project that demands payment of any kind from their airdrop participants are nothing but a scam.

[markm]

This is the rise of airlift projects- No doubt, in a space like Telegram, this obviously brings both opportunity and risk. When the payment by a project to pay in TONs or other currencies is required, then that provides a fifty-fifty space for operations considered legitimate and operations that may be fraud.

The situation you describe in which only a small percentage of participants receives contracted air transportation after payment has been made. This raises ethical issues. Most of it is hands-on exploration. This is especially true if the project is marketed as a fair opportunity for all. Although some participants received tokens But a lack of transparency and equitable distribution can still reflect negatively on the project and may be considered misleading.

In the final analysis Participants are expected to research and exercise caution in any project. It is important to pay in advance. The tendency to use airdrops as a marketing tool can blur the boundaries between true community building and opportunistic practices.

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Therefore, project owners should develop all requirements and procedures relating to wind turbines well ahead of time. This will help to avoid misunderstandings in all participants since transparency tends to ward off fraudulent perceptions.

When people know exactly what they're going to get They can make their decision on whether they like to join or apply free opportunities; it's all about open communication between the project team and the community. When teams focus on clarity, then it may lead to excellent outputs for everyone who is using these resources.

Beautiful. Sheer poetry.

-MarkM-

[bastian466]

What about a scenario where a project after requesting for such payment from participants actually airdropped but to just about 15% of their participants out of a 100% that made that TON payment task. Can that still be regarded as some form of scam? since the notion has been that most of these airdrops that request some fee to be paid don't  usually fulfill their promise.

It depends on the end result. To me the definition of scam is promising something that will never be fulfilled.

Promising to give a client their product but never actually sending it after the payment was done = Scam. Promising an investment will double then taking the money to run away = Scam.

Of course the team probably didn’t announce right off the bat that only 15% will be given. Some projects really do give out the rest even though it takes some time but usually if this happens, it might point to being a scam.

So it all depends on the final result, it is a proof that can be said to take quite a long time and in my opinion if anyone is in doubt, they should avoid such transactions that can be said to be suspicious to avoid unwanted things if the final result is bad. once again the decision comes back to each person's beliefs, airdrops should still be free

[fortunecrypto]

Now from a different angle aside from an airdrop project been regarded to as scammers when they request people to pay some TON and didn't airdropped. What about a scenario where a project after requesting for such payment from participants actually airdropped but to just about 15% of their participants out of a 100% that made that TON payment task. Can that still be regarded as some form of scam? since the notion has been that most of these airdrops that request some fee to be paid don't  usually fulfill their promise.

If they cannot deliver what they promised and they do selective payment to those who participate,, then its a scam, A project that has a good name should have no complaint, and they should address all issues.

Airdrop has a new definition, in the past, you simply sent your address and they would send you their token, Now you have to work for it and based on how you deliver or finish the task, that's how they compute your allocation: simply doing a bounty campaign on the project and not participating in Airdrop.

[YUriy1991]

If they cannot deliver what they promised and they do selective payment to those who participate,, then its a scam, A project that has a good name should have no complaint, and they should address all issues.

Airdrop has a new definition, in the past, you simply sent your address and they would send you their token, Now you have to work for it and based on how you deliver or finish the task, that's how they compute your allocation: simply doing a bounty campaign on the project and not participating in Airdrop.

What I see, Like Dogs is quite fair and not confusing, simple and not too complicated, If in others, for those who have joined to get free coins in the Airdrop campaign bot model or others must still be willing to voluntarily provide or contribute likes and subscribe to increase their Adsense media links and not once or twice they attach to be liked but many not to mention other unimportant links.

[DOH!]

the crypto space more specifically the altcoin ones, are too forgiving with such shady behavior because they are used to the risk of altcoin already which always involves risking money, but regardless a scam is a scam.

After the TON ecosystem exploded on airdrop projects, some people took the opportunity to scam airdrop participants and investors. This is inevitable. For example, a project that I participated in doing airdrop tasks and invested 50TON for a token mining machine, but when I made a withdrawal order, they used the excuse of an error and announced that they sent the email manually. Is this a common behavior to go to scam??? It seems like it is a trap that any ecosystem encounters. Lol

[ethereumhunter]

Therefore, project owners should develop all requirements and procedures relating to wind turbines well ahead of time. This will help to avoid misunderstandings in all participants since transparency tends to ward off fraudulent perceptions.

When people know exactly what they're going to get They can make their decision on whether they like to join or apply free opportunities; it's all about open communication between the project team and the community. When teams focus on clarity, then it may lead to excellent outputs for everyone who is using these resources.

When all things can be transparent and well explain to all people who involved in the project, there will be no misunderstanding between them. All people will see if that will benefit them or that will just waste their time to participate in that airdrop program. Communications will be needed between the team and all people so they can prevents the problem. It is better to add some members of the team to maintain the communication with all people so they can announce something related to the project.

If this realized by the team, they will see a good progress for their project because people really understand the plan of the project. People will help the project to achieve their goals together and promote it in many websites. With team focus with their work and people busy to promote the project, I think that will be a good collaboration for the project to achieve what they want.

[FortuneFollower]

the crypto space more specifically the altcoin ones, are too forgiving with such shady behavior because they are used to the risk of altcoin already which always involves risking money, but regardless a scam is a scam.

After the TON ecosystem exploded on airdrop projects, some people took the opportunity to scam airdrop participants and investors. This is inevitable. For example, a project that I participated in doing airdrop tasks and invested 50TON for a token mining machine, but when I made a withdrawal order, they used the excuse of an error and announced that they sent the email manually. Is this a common behavior to go to scam??? It seems like it is a trap that any ecosystem encounters. Lol

Totally.
What was the name of the project, if you remember it, by chance?
Nevertheless, that's just crazy. And some other projects come up with even crazier and fishy schemes than that.

[doomloop]

Maybe that will not be a scam but most people will still considered that is scam reminds they are not asked to pay some TON before the the airdrop gives. The owner of the project must clarify the procedure to people before they run the airdrop programs so people will not be misunderstanding with the rules. I guess that is miscommunication between the teams and people who want to do many tasks to get the rewards from the airdrop. If the teams can explain about the requirement before they run the project, maybe the misunderstanding will not happen. People will choose the project by themselves and will decide if they want to pay some TON as fees or will search the airdrop programs that will be free.

Even before, there are already airdrops like that which requires users to send some coins. This must be part of their mechanics. Even though rules are important, indeed that some are not clarifying it. No wonder why they got negative comments but if it wasn't intentional, I think we can forgive them. I am sure we also did a mistake because we are only a human. Even though there are now rules, misunderstanding must still be there.

We can only hope that they will be corrected easily. No one is forced here, so yeah that it was the people are the ones who will choose a project that they like. For me, I can prefer the free ones because I'm always low in budget. I understand that free ones can also pay less and then many are not legit.

[itorai]

After the TON ecosystem exploded on airdrop projects, some people took the opportunity to scam airdrop participants and investors. This is inevitable. For example, a project that I participated in doing airdrop tasks and invested 50TON for a token mining machine, but when I made a withdrawal order, they used the excuse of an error and announced that they sent the email manually. Is this a common behavior to go to scam??? It seems like it is a trap that any ecosystem encounters. Lol

sometimes they do anything to achieve the desired target so that they fraud , because with the many projects in the airdrop it is used as an opportunity to do bad fraud, they do it with full consideration before doing it, it is very difficult to distinguish between fraud and which is legitimate.