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October 05, 2024, 07:55:50 AM
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A few days ago, a ground offensive with large numbers of tanks and armored vehicles began in Lebanon. Israel launched airstrikes again, which caused extensive destruction in various parts of Beirut, the capital of Lebanon. In more than a year in Gaza, Palestine, there has been a massive loss of innocent lives, 41,788 so far, most of them women and children. Renewed attacks on Lebanon have killed 2011 so far, widening the scope of the war.

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Following Israel's attack on Lebanon, Iran launched dozens of missile attacks on Israeli cities, causing heavy Israeli casualties and several casualties, although Israel claimed to have destroyed most of the missiles in mid-air. However, one country should never accept an attack on another country and it is a direct attack on that country's sovereignty. The United Nations cannot play any role in that situation because neither the powerful countries nor the permanent member states of the United Nations are taking steps to stop the war. In fact, war is a matter of loss of life for the people of the world, which no one can wish for.

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October 05, 2024, 09:02:17 AM
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Good luck to Israel to crush the terrorists.
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October 05, 2024, 09:08:50 AM
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With any luck, hostilities are resolved soon. War is good for nobody, there are always countless deaths on bith sides, families are torn apart, we do not want any wars. Now that Israel has retaliated, I hope there can be some peace talks & that can be the end of it, although I fear there will be more casualties on both sides. Let us pray for peace.

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October 06, 2024, 10:38:35 AM
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With any luck, hostilities are resolved soon. War is good for nobody, there are always countless deaths on bith sides, families are torn apart, we do not want any wars. Now that Israel has retaliated, I hope there can be some peace talks & that can be the end of it, although I fear there will be more casualties on both sides. Let us pray for peace.
I pray with you that peace will come. All parties should have a concession mentality to make the world livable but a handful of nations want to get everything by killing innocent people which creates obstacles in the way of world peace. Also, some groups are creating aggressive situations and trying to build resistance with limited weapons but they should understand that war cannot be won with limited weapons.

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October 06, 2024, 03:42:51 PM
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To me all this comes down to Netanyahu being opportunistic on the situation which started a year ago, for him to further push his political career and relieve Israel from their historical enemies, in my opinion.
It started with Hamas and Gaza, they finished flattening most of the structure of the strip and since there are not many objectives left to bomb in Gaza, Netanyahu has decided to move onto Lebanon and Hezbollah, because he knows he will be ousted of his position as prime minister if he ceases hostilities against the enemies of Israel.
At this point, I would not be surprised if Netanyahu started to colonize the south of Lebanon in order to further expand Israel and guarantee the support from the most radical nationalist factions of the country.

Part of the problem in the middle east is his political ambition.

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October 06, 2024, 04:44:34 PM
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Good luck to Israel to crush the terrorists.
Oh my goodness, you want Israel to turn the whole city to terrorists and crush human beings like goats? They are human beings like us bro, and we need to pray for them for peace to reign in their land so that they will begin to experience peace we are experiencing right now, not that am happy for what they did to Israel in this current attack that took many people lifes to shake the city. May the God of heaven grant the two country leaders heart, to let go to allow peace to restore in their land.

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October 07, 2024, 12:22:39 AM
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Good luck to Israel to crush the terrorists.
Oh my goodness, you want Israel to turn the whole city to terrorists and crush human beings like goats? They are human beings like us bro, and we need to pray for them for peace to reign in their land so that they will begin to experience peace we are experiencing right now, not that am happy for what they did to Israel in this current attack that took many people lifes to shake the city. May the God of heaven grant the two country leaders heart, to let go to allow peace to restore in their land.

The problem which to this day prevents the region to enjoy a fully restored era of peace is the fact there is no mediation between the State of Israel and the State of Iran, no mediation, because in order for people to negotiate they first need to acknowledge the authority and the existence of all parties within negotiation. The Islamic republic of Iran does not recognize the state of Israel as a proper country and since there is no will from them to recognize their enemy/rival as a state then there is no possibility for the leaders of both sides to sit down on a table and get to a deal to resolve their differences for the sake of people in the regions they both share.
As there is a complete lack of recognition by Iran on the existence of Israel as state, then the missile strikes as retaliation will continue in the next days, as the IDF and the Israel army continue to advance in the south of Lebanon.

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October 07, 2024, 08:27:08 AM
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Good luck to Israel to crush the terrorists.
Oh my goodness, you want Israel to turn the whole city to terrorists and crush human beings like goats? They are human beings like us bro, and we need to pray for them for peace to reign in their land so that they will begin to experience peace we are experiencing right now, not that am happy for what they did to Israel in this current attack that took many people lifes to shake the city. May the God of heaven grant the two country leaders heart, to let go to allow peace to restore in their land.
Peace can only return if the United States stops its military and economic aid and applies pressure to stop the war, and Israel will not stop. Netanyahu has warned to attack Iran. And if Israel attacks Iran, the whole Middle East will be on fire. The price of fuel oil is increasing gradually and will increase further in the future which may affect the entire world.

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Israel is doing everything right. He is fighting terrorism for all of us.
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October 07, 2024, 01:10:14 PM
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To me all this comes down to Netanyahu being opportunistic on the situation which started a year ago, for him to further push his political career and relieve Israel from their historical enemies, in my opinion.
It started with Hamas and Gaza, they finished flattening most of the structure of the strip and since there are not many objectives left to bomb in Gaza, Netanyahu has decided to move onto Lebanon and Hezbollah, because he knows he will be ousted of his position as prime minister if he ceases hostilities against the enemies of Israel.
At this point, I would not be surprised if Netanyahu started to colonize the south of Lebanon in order to further expand Israel and guarantee the support from the most radical nationalist factions of the country.

Part of the problem in the middle east is his political ambition.

And Netanyahu's popularity within Israel since pushing the region closer to all out war
is increasing. The general opinion within Israel is that how he is directing the IDF and
expanding into Lebanon is one of appeal. There is no appetite for peace within Israel.

I guarantee that Israel will claim Lebanese territory.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/10/04/irish-peacekeepers-lebanon-latest-israel-invasion

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The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) has told Ireland to remove its peacekeepers from
an outpost on the border with Lebanon as its invasion of the country continues.

They have already started the Invasion of Lebanon the same way as the invasion of Gaza,
forcing the civilian population out of their homes and then bombing the capital . . .
where does it stop?

Israel is doing everything right. He is fighting terrorism for all of us.

Well according to much of the civilised world he isnt, everyone else is calling for a
ceasefire and that the only solution to this is a recognition of two states, of course
this goes totally against what the Zionist Extreme Right want for the area.

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“We are here adding light after the black sabbath that the people of Israel had,”
one of the men says in the video, circulating on Telegram. “We are occupying, deporting,
and settling. Occupying, deporting, and settling. Did you hear that Bibi? Occupying,
deporting, and settling.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/17/middleeast/israel-far-right-gaza-settler-movement-cmd-intl/index.html

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October 08, 2024, 03:53:42 AM
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Following Israel's attack on Lebanon, Iran launched dozens of missile attacks on Israeli cities, causing heavy Israeli casualties and several casualties, although Israel claimed to have destroyed most of the missiles in mid-air. However, one country should never accept an attack on another country and it is a direct attack on that country's sovereignty.
Everything in this quote is wrong.

For starters Iran launched about 200 missiles at exclusively military targets (not cities) which was according to article 51 of UN charter and also the Geneva Conventions in response to the terrorist attack by Israel murdering Haniyeh who was a guest in Iran.
Not a single missile were intercepted.

Israel is also not a country, it is an ethno supremacist occupying force that has been committing genocide in the region for decades.

The 341 Zionists that were eliminated are also exclusively military personnel from those military bases that were destroyed; not to mention that there no non-military personnel in an occupation specially when they are all members of IOF.

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October 08, 2024, 07:03:57 AM
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God, when will it all end? I understand that man is the most conflicted being on the planet, but there must be an end to all wars sometime.
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October 08, 2024, 11:03:25 AM
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God, when will it all end? I understand that man is the most conflicted being on the planet, but there must be an end to all wars sometime.
I think we are heading towards another world war and the world's powerful nations are becoming more aggressive as time goes on. Their addiction kills innocent people.

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October 08, 2024, 04:05:37 PM
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God, when will it all end? I understand that man is the most conflicted being on the planet, but there must be an end to all wars sometime.
I think we are heading towards another world war and the world's powerful nations are becoming more aggressive as time goes on. Their addiction kills innocent people.

Though, you must take in consideration an important part of today's militaries conflicts, and it is the possibility of the use of weapons of mass destruction against civilians, atomic and nuclear weapons, I mean.
The enemy counts with weapons which could completely wipe out countries in mere hours, but they also but their opponents have such weapons, it is secured mutual destruction, as it was called during the cold war.
Would leaders of countries which are industrialized and heavily capitalist like the United States and the UK to even risk the extermination of their systems ? I think not.

Those who have the least to lose in such nuclear scenario are the underdeveloped countries which have nuclear weapons, in this case it would be North Korea and Russia, besides, the leaders of those two countries have already proven to be cynical enough not to care for the freedom and rights of their own population.

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It is a conflict of influence and interests between colonial powers that had planned to maintain their control over the region since the fall of the Ottoman Empire after World War II. The Britsh-French Agreement was evidence that the solution adopted by those powers was to divide the region into countries according to the borders that serve their interests by keeping the region in a state of permanent conflict, whether over borders or resources, while ensuring the feeding of ethnic and sectarian tendencies between the different cultures that have coexisted for centuries in the region.

I do not agree at all with the view that the conflict is between Muslims and Christians for simple reasons, the most important of which is that the Zionist movement that leads the expansion plan does not only include Jews or Christians, but also includes members of different religions and even non-religious people, and also because the victims of these wars are Christians and Jews as well. The Palestinians are not only Muslims, but a large percentage of them are Christians and Jews in addition to other ethnic minorities, and the same is true in the rest of the countries of the region. These wars have nothing to do with religions, but they want us to believe that so that the conflict remains sectarian and ideological and not economic and strategic. It is almost the same as what happened during the Cold War, where people were incited against the communists on the grounds that they were infidels and atheists, while the real conflict was about influence in the world. The United States helped form and establish the Taliban in Afghanistan, which is essentially a religious group, to fight the communist tide of the Soviet Union, which was largely Christian, even though the Communist Party tried to eliminate religious practices and considered them backward. This is an example confirms that these conflicts have nothing to do with religions, and that all religions are beautiful if they are not used ideologically.

 
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October 20, 2024, 03:53:23 PM
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War destroys the peace of the world like the war between Israel and Palestine is not limited to two countries.  This war is now destroying the peace of the whole world, especially the war between Israel and Iran, and the war between Israel and Lebanon. In this way, if one country continues with another country in the form of a war chain, then at some point the war will spread all over the world.

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October 20, 2024, 07:55:34 PM
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War destroys the peace of the world like the war between Israel and Palestine is not limited to two countries.  This war is now destroying the peace of the whole world, especially the war between Israel and Iran, and the war between Israel and Lebanon. In this way, if one country continues with another country in the form of a war chain, then at some point the war will spread all over the world.

As it stands for now, the war in the middle east has only involved Israel, Palestine and not Lebanon. Iran is not as much of a beliberant as Palestine and Libanon are, though I am not talking about formal armies of those countries, since allegedly Israel only seeks to destroy terrorist organizations, like Hamas and Hezbollah, but their discourse does not hold onto the actions they have on purpose took against civilian populations.
The worst case scenario would be Israel taking territory from Lebanon and the Gaza strip, for a full planned settlement and slowly claiming those territories for their own country. That would be the straw how could break the camel's back: invading a country because there are terrorists in there and a then proceeding to annex their land because why not...
Iran and Israel does not share common borders, so the "war" between them will continue to be limited to missile exchanges.

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October 20, 2024, 10:54:38 PM
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The United Nations cannot play any role in that situation because neither the powerful countries nor the permanent member states of the United Nations are taking steps to stop the war. In fact, war is a matter of loss of life for the people of the world, which no one can wish for.
The United Nations is only in name but I don't think its importance is seen in reality. Especially in this era, the United Nations could not do anything. They could not take any measures to stop the war of a country. There are some powerful countries in the world who do not accept any decision of the UN even they do not support it. But what America says in politics will happen. If so, what role does play the United Nations? The political culture has reached a stage where the wishes of the common man are not given importance. As far as I know Netanyahu is not wanted by the general public in Israel but he will stay in power. He will fight against the wishes of ordinary people. The UN certainly looks at these issues but they play a silent role.

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The United Nations cannot play any role in that situation because neither the powerful countries nor the permanent member states of the United Nations are taking steps to stop the war. In fact, war is a matter of loss of life for the people of the world, which no one can wish for.
The United Nations is only in name but I don't think its importance is seen in reality. Especially in this era, the United Nations could not do anything. They could not take any measures to stop the war of a country. There are some powerful countries in the world who do not accept any decision of the UN even they do not support it. But what America says in politics will happen. If so, what role does play the United Nations? The political culture has reached a stage where the wishes of the common man are not given importance. As far as I know Netanyahu is not wanted by the general public in Israel but he will stay in power. He will fight against the wishes of ordinary people. The UN certainly looks at these issues but they play a silent role.

The UN has no special military force that will force nations to obey its decisions. The organization depend solely on military support from member States. They are not also a profit-making organization, so they depend on rich nations to donate or redeem their financial obligations. It is normal to assume that without a powerful military and money, the UN is just a toothless bulldog. Sometimes, I feel sorry for António Guterres because his words or directives are nothing but worthless rants. He has severally called for a ceasefire in these warring nations, but he is not taken seriously. For me, the Portuguese is doing his best to promote peace, but without the backing of the big players in international politics, he would achieve nothing.

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October 23, 2024, 10:24:09 AM
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The United Nations cannot play any role in that situation because neither the powerful countries nor the permanent member states of the United Nations are taking steps to stop the war. In fact, war is a matter of loss of life for the people of the world, which no one can wish for.
The United Nations is only in name but I don't think its importance is seen in reality. Especially in this era, the United Nations could not do anything. They could not take any measures to stop the war of a country. There are some powerful countries in the world who do not accept any decision of the UN even they do not support it. But what America says in politics will happen. If so, what role does play the United Nations? The political culture has reached a stage where the wishes of the common man are not given importance. As far as I know Netanyahu is not wanted by the general public in Israel but he will stay in power. He will fight against the wishes of ordinary people. The UN certainly looks at these issues but they play a silent role.

The UN has no special military force that will force nations to obey its decisions. The organization depend solely on military support from member States. They are not also a profit-making organization, so they depend on rich nations to donate or redeem their financial obligations. It is normal to assume that without a powerful military and money, the UN is just a toothless bulldog. Sometimes, I feel sorry for António Guterres because his words or directives are nothing but worthless rants. He has severally called for a ceasefire in these warring nations, but he is not taken seriously. For me, the Portuguese is doing his best to promote peace, but without the backing of the big players in international politics, he would achieve nothing.
It is questionable whether António Guterres has anything else to do but condemn and express concern. I think the United Nations is only created to protect the interests of powerful countries and the five permanent member states are forced to follow their word. Israel's attack and killing of UN people in Palestine has not been addressed and the situation is the same in Lebanon. No reliable force has been created in the world to protect against war situations especially effective measures to protect the innocent and common people.

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