Merit field populating with a zero. Why?

[rachael9385]

Why does the merit field pre-populate with a zero? Is this needed? Couldn’t it be left blank? Is everyone deleting this zero every time they leave merit like I am?

Actually, I have been deleting the zero before sending out merit to a post I find quality, but after seeing your thread I have to send merit to  you without removing the zero and it was successful.
If you think that removing the zero before sending merit/s would be stressful by you, then you also need to consider sending Smerit/s without removing the zero. Perhaps, the only thing that would be risky to do is adding any number of your choice before the zero. However, I do not think that everyone has been removing the zero before sending merits. Some might have tried it long time ago.

[Btcdeybodi]

Obviously not a big deal though. Perhaps, activities in the forum requires a lot of carefulness, if everything is made very easy for us here there gonna be a lot of mistakes. Deleting the zero and inserting the numbers of merit we want to give a user shouldn't be stressful at all IMO.

Dude, I have like 1300 merits to send right now and getting more daily. Anything to make handing that out easier should be looked at.

And i assume the 1300 smerits can't be sent in a single day, Perhaps as for merit sources they can just request for a feature whereby as they are reading through threads and replies they finds merit worthy, they can just be ticking them one after another and afterwhich send the number of merits they want to give each users at once, sounds like a better idea donno 

[Faisal2202]

This is really not a big deal, but it is one of those things that takes an extra second or two of my time whenever I want to leave someone merit. 98% of the time I spend on this site is on my phone these days, and having to tap in the merit box and move the cursor to the right side and then delete the zero takes some time. If thousands of people are doing this regularly, it could be quite a waste of man hours. I thought I complained about this before but maybe not so I’m bringing it up (possibly again).

Why does the merit field pre-populate with a zero? Is this needed? Couldn’t it be left blank? Is everyone deleting this zero every time they leave merit like I am?

Removing zero don't take much time either I am on Desktop or on Smartphone I can easily remove the zero as you can too but yeah I don't give too much merits and If I try to understand the situation from your end like if you are giving too much merits to other members then removing the zero everytime must be a headache for you I hope some patch fixer (a name should be given to these dudes who write code and release patches to admin so he could install them).

Although if there would be no zero like the field left blank the forum will face no problem at all it will only say invalid amount like it is saying now. I hope your request will be heard by patch fixers 

[NeuroticFish]

You can find complaints for every solution. The easiest would be if the field is empty and you enter the number(s) of merits you want to send. If it stays at 0, you can just add a digit after it and send merits without issues. If the 0 changed to a 1, then everyone who sends 2 or more merits per transaction would have to delete the 1 and enter x instead. It becomes a bit more user-friendly for one group at the expense of another.

Imho setting 1 there would be worse than what we have now.

I've been just writing 1 (or more!) behind that 0 for quite some time; actually when I click the edit box the auto-fill shows me quite a list, all beginning with 0 If this will change I will always have to remove the 1 if I want to award more than 1 sMerit.

If it can be set up to have special buttons for a few values or at least for 1, it won't hurt, but changing the current behavior needs careful thinking.

[God Of Thunder]

Now tell me: who are those lazy Merit sources you're talking about?

Ey ey LoyceV, we don't want to see a Superhero fight here. We have Marvel Studio for that.

He already replied to you, so I guess you understand what he was talking about. It seems like there is some support and some opposition as well. But I guess most people will agree that if theymos keep it blank, there will be no problem for anyone. But if he keeps 1 instead, then it will be harder for some of us, and easy for some of us. To make it equal, theymos could leave the box blank. But I am almost certain that the admin does not care about these little things.

[vapourminer]

for us desktop readers prepopulating with "1" would be nice as right now while reading the forum i need just a mouse to read but i need the mouse and keyboard to merit. and this has, on occasion, resulted in posts i would of merited being passed by because while it may be meritable its not meritable enough for me to actually get the keyboard out. since i am lazy af.

so "mouse only" mode for merits would help out us "mouse only" desktop folks.

[Rikafip]

I am glad to see that I am not the only one who is a little bit annoyed with that zero being there for no good reason (even though I am not a merit source and don't share that much merit) and often asked myself why is it even there.

Anyway, I would definitely like to see it gone.

[l99l]

I didn't notice it until you said it. Yeap, I delete 0 every time and write the number I want instead.
This can be fixed, I don't see anything wrong with it.
But I questioned whether I should not be so lazy to delete 0 and write 1 or another number. Well, it didn't bother me, but I can imagine there are a lot of users who are bothered by it, I can understand them.

[philipma1957]

Obviously not a big deal though. Perhaps, activities in the forum requires a lot of carefulness, if everything is made very easy for us here there gonna be a lot of mistakes. Deleting the zero and inserting the numbers of merit we want to give a user shouldn't be stressful at all IMO.

If you are a fat fingered cell phone person it is hard to get it right.

I think I gave 10 twice 20 once and 30 once.

I no longer give merits via the cell phone.

Being 67 years old hand twitches are more common so it would be nice to have something else in the box.

[Mia Chloe]

If you are a fat fingered cell phone person it is hard to get it right.
I think I gave 10 twice 20 once and 30 once.
I no longer give merits via the cell phone.
Being 67 years old hand twitches are more common so it would be nice to have something else in the box.

User who received those 10x merits would be like; ( Damn that was a hell of quality post I wrote right there ). Anyways that's quite true not only for old people too hand twitching is also a thing I've seen in a couple of young people. Anyways I think you could reduce the problem more if you made use of a wider touch screen probably a tab. For example an iPhone mini will only make things worse (said this because you seem to be an apple person because literally all your screen shots came from a Mac)

Plus if you make use of a smartphone I suggest you surf the forum without any mobile phone extensions so it's pretty much very easy for you to either zoom in or zoom out on the text bar where you are going to input the number of merits you wish to send.

[Btcdeybodi]

Obviously not a big deal though. Perhaps, activities in the forum requires a lot of carefulness, if everything is made very easy for us here there gonna be a lot of mistakes. Deleting the zero and inserting the numbers of merit we want to give a user shouldn't be stressful at all IMO.

If you are a fat fingered cell phone person it is hard to get it right.

I think I gave 10 twice 20 once and 30 once.

I no longer give merits via the cell phone.

Being 67 years old hand twitches are more common so it would be nice to have something else in the box.

Very understandable sir, Perhaps with the same complaint being made by a lot of users who have made replies on this thread, it is obvious that the zero is not necessary, it can even be left blank after all.

[Alone055]

this has, on occasion, resulted in posts i would of merited being passed by because while it may be meritable its not meritable enough for me to actually get the keyboard out. since i am lazy af.

That's too lazy of you, it's hilarious.  

Anyway, I do agree that even if we are not lazy or have to skip posts because of it, having a '1' instead of a '0' in the field would make things easier because most of the time, we send only 1 merit to normal merit-worthy posts unless it's a special case where we might need to remove the digit that is already populated and write our own.

[AVE5]

At a time I thought having seen that zero (0) in the leaving merit box is irrelevant but I came to understand that it's still necessary that it it displays that the user has inputted zero (0) yet which would be invalid to merit other users posts respectively.
I think it was a reminder that zero (0) as a figure means nothing equivalent to blank space which requires a figure bigger than the zero (0) before you can merit posts.
As for deleting the zero (0) before leaving merits, it's actually irrelevant but I'm one user who also deletes it off before proceeding to input a figure of merit for a post. Lol

[promise444c5]

so "mouse only" mode for merits would help out us "mouse only" desktop folks.

I think the rate of 1s are quite much when it comes to sending merit so the 1 as initial value to be cool but on mobile, it will still be prone to errors which is +1 to "0" errors.... not too bad though. If possible for PC/desktop users with using  1 as init value then it's saves more time and maybe mobile should be left with blank  input  space or any placeholder that fits for it.
Unless  if we could have maybe a suggested input value aligned beneath for users to pick... probably from one to ... most used  input values  with alot of spacing between each  suggested values  for fat fingered users.

[OgNasty]

Did this just get fixed? First improvement I’ve seen in a long time that might actually benefit users here instead of more ways to spread negativity. Kudos for a nice improvement.

[blomen]

Did this just get fixed? First improvement I’ve seen in a long time that might actually benefit users here instead of more ways to spread negativity. Kudos for a nice improvement.

i don’t even know if that counts as a bug, but it seems to have been fixed. while browsing the forum, i think it’s a nice little detail, even if it doesn’t have a major impact on the experience. and instead of leaving the box completely empty, it looks like there’s a placeholder 0 there.

i’m not sure if there’s much left to fix on the forum. in reality, achieving “perfection” is scientifically impossible, but the forum seems to have come quite close to it.

[PowerGlove]

Did this just get fixed?

Yep.

Basically, I happened to poke my head into the WO [1] on Friday night, and I noticed this post:

You are giving way too much credit to ethereum, as if it were a less shitty shitcoin as compared to some other shitcoin... and just for that, you deserve a virtual slappening.

 

Haha, you lucky bastard!

You got 10 instead of 1, stupid "0" site always puts in for who know why!

I meant hisslys.

So, I sent theymos a quick PM that jogged his memory about this topic (and I made a case that doing something about this recurring problem would be better, IMO, than letting another few years slip by while pondering the perfect fix).

[1] I try to avoid the WO, because although I personally find it to sometimes be the most genuine and enjoyable thread on the forum, I like to stick to a pretty strict "information diet": I don't like thinking about BTC-USD, the news, politics, etc. more than maybe once or twice a year. (Call me weird, but, I realized a long time ago that most of the information being "driven" into people's minds is not at all meant to benefit them.)

[uchegod-21]

Merits are irreversible, so I do not see that delay in deleting the zero as a challenge, rather, something that may be of benefit to users sometimes. This is because the small delay gives you a brief moment to pause and ask yourself, “Is this post really worth the merit?” Sometimes these small delays help to prevent errors from careless clicks.

I have noticed that the space is never blank and it costs me nothing to quickly delete and input my desired number of merits. I do not see it as a big deal.

[Jostern]

Obviously not a big deal though. Perhaps, activities in the forum requires a lot of carefulness, if everything is made very easy for us here there gonna be a lot of mistakes. Deleting the zero and inserting the numbers of merit we want to give a user shouldn't be stressful at all IMO.

If you are a fat fingered cell phone person it is hard to get it right.

I think I gave 10 twice 20 once and 30 once.

I no longer give merits via the cell phone.

Being 67 years old hand twitches are more common so it would be nice to have something else in the box.

Yeah sometimes it’s very difficult to do that considering the age just like you have said, and someone who have a fatty finger it’s very difficult, you always have to delete the zero to be able to write some new entirely in the box before sending out merits.

But when you’re very observant it’s very easy for you to understand and be careful when trying to give out merits, it’s really not a big deal, but I think something can be done for people who find it difficult to use this process instead of deleting the “0” and replacing with something else.

I absolutely believe something should be changed in the box.

[promise444c5]

I absolutely believe something should be changed in the box.

Seriously man 
Why did you think the thread was bumped by OG-N?
Did you even check the date on the post you quoted..