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November 09, 2024, 05:17:51 PM
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I mean, if he is good enough, he will find the health and nutrition ways to keep himself young enough. If he spreads that info around the US and world, and if he does good for people - especially the people of the US - WHY NOT?
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does it mean there can't be a better leader than he is? Believe it or leave it, trump is not a saint. His vision aligns with yours and that's the reason why you're considering a third term even when he hasn't done a thing in his second term in office.

The Democrats are eagerly waiting for this tenure to come to an end so they can project someone who hopefully will bring them back into the Whitehouse. No matter how good a person his, there's always a time to step down and give the next generation the previledge of leading. At the time of the next election, age would have run out of Trump's side and it's unlikely he's going to consider a change of the constitution just so he can be reelected for the third time. That will be a selfish and desperate plan .


It's true that when people are happy with a leader, the next generation won't necessarily be so happy. That's why the US was set up to have the people, each person, be their own leader. But the people have allowed themselves to be focused onto the presidency, almost like the President is their king.

Time to get back to each person being his own king. Trump talks like he is in favor of that. For example. The repeal of Roe v Wade was done to send the legislation back to the people in each of their States. It was done to reduce the power of the Federal 'kingship' over the people.

But when you look at what people want, "We want a king who will do it our way." Few want to take responsibility for their lives. Most want a good life without having to make it that way for themselves. "Let the king do it for us."

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November 09, 2024, 07:19:00 PM
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Let's just make him king for life and be done with it. Enough of that whole election and democracy nonsense, waste of money. Make him the king of the whole world while we're at it, I'm sure other countries won't mind.

Honestly, I had not expected someone who is fond of Trump to start suggesting to prolong his seat in power way beyond his secomd term, before he actually took the seat.
One must wonder how far the Republican party controlled by him would be willing to go for power now they have proven Trump to be a viable source of it. I am sure the could be some in the caucus who would be willing to prolong his seat in the oval office, but it would represent an unprecedented red line on the floor. We are already living unprecedented times,.sure but it would still sound weird to me and out of place people in the Senate and the house of representatives to actively go against democracy in such a blatant way.

Anyways, perhaps we are getting more and more desensitized to all this non-sense to the point it would seems not to matter anyone.

I think  he is being ironic or you are being ironic. suchmoon is not fond of Trump or is very good at hiding it.  Grin

The Republican party does not control Trump at all. Trump has taken the Republican party, changed it into some short of autocratic monster and then used it as a platform to win his victory. In other words, the Republican Party has won nothing in this election. They are the band and Trump the singer, owner, producer and distributor of the music.

I was not talking about suchmoon, actually. I meant OP who I don't know whether he was trying to be ironic or not. But I was not trying to be ironic, this rather a serious matter because due to the unprecedented victory of Trump, I am afraid people and politicians who harbor very extreme ideas could feel too cocky on what they could be able to pull off with all this  seemly unchecked power the presidency of the United States have gotten (thanks to the decision of the SCOTUS).

Also, I disagree. Trump has not completely taken over the Republican party because he is not capable of such a thing by himself, he has taken over the people who vote for the Republican party so the party is dancing under his music and pace, that is true, but within the Republican party there are actual economists who are intelligent enough not to allow Trump to go away with that crazy tariff plan hr has talked about, within the Republican party there are also doctors who would not allow Kennedy Jr to make more difficult for people to access to vaccines, and so on. One needs to remember politicians pretty much are big players within stock markets and they will not burn their personal fortune for the sake of pleasing Trump with his crazy enomical plans in order to try to get money off China.

By the way, Zelensky must be completely devastated by all this stuff going on.

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November 10, 2024, 08:48:47 AM
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Well it will be a great idea considering that the senate and the Supreme Court has more of the republicans on like before,so amending the constitution to pervert it wouldn’t be a problem. But I know the Democrats will actually want to fight back from allowing it come to fruition.
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November 10, 2024, 10:17:37 AM
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An opposition to any party in control is very important.

It would be a bad thing for democrats to have complete control and likewise a bad thing for republicans to have complete control.
An opposition tries to keep the balance and accountability.

If you want a glimpse of the world when opposition and accountability is remove, take a look (but not limited to) eastwards.

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November 10, 2024, 10:34:43 AM
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Let's just make him king for life and be done with it. Enough of that whole election and democracy nonsense, waste of money. Make him the king of the whole world while we're at it, I'm sure other countries won't mind.

Honestly, I had not expected someone who is fond of Trump to start suggesting to prolong his seat in power way beyond his secomd term, before he actually took the seat.
One must wonder how far the Republican party controlled by him would be willing to go for power now they have proven Trump to be a viable source of it. I am sure the could be some in the caucus who would be willing to prolong his seat in the oval office, but it would represent an unprecedented red line on the floor. We are already living unprecedented times,.sure but it would still sound weird to me and out of place people in the Senate and the house of representatives to actively go against democracy in such a blatant way.

Anyways, perhaps we are getting more and more desensitized to all this non-sense to the point it would seems not to matter anyone.

I think  he is being ironic or you are being ironic. suchmoon is not fond of Trump or is very good at hiding it.  Grin

The Republican party does not control Trump at all. Trump has taken the Republican party, changed it into some short of autocratic monster and then used it as a platform to win his victory. In other words, the Republican Party has won nothing in this election. They are the band and Trump the singer, owner, producer and distributor of the music.

I was not talking about suchmoon, actually. I meant OP who I don't know whether he was trying to be ironic or not. But I was not trying to be ironic, this rather a serious matter because due to the unprecedented victory of Trump, I am afraid people and politicians who harbor very extreme ideas could feel too cocky on what they could be able to pull off with all this  seemly unchecked power the presidency of the United States have gotten (thanks to the decision of the SCOTUS).

Also, I disagree. Trump has not completely taken over the Republican party because he is not capable of such a thing by himself, he has taken over the people who vote for the Republican party so the party is dancing under his music and pace, that is true, but within the Republican party there are actual economists who are intelligent enough not to allow Trump to go away with that crazy tariff plan hr has talked about, within the Republican party there are also doctors who would not allow Kennedy Jr to make more difficult for people to access to vaccines, and so on. One needs to remember politicians pretty much are big players within stock markets and they will not burn their personal fortune for the sake of pleasing Trump with his crazy enomical plans in order to try to get money off China.

By the way, Zelensky must be completely devastated by all this stuff going on.

Not by himself, it is thanks to the electoral base and support that is fully rallied around his personality - like many authoritarians out there, it is a cult of the leader, but also, and this is important, about the donors. The donors do not care if the "immigrants eat dogs" because they will not ever meet one of them, they do not care about gay, transgender nor anything else... but they do care about money. They will keep pouring money on Trump as long as he promises a thin state - low cost (including Health Services) and as less tax as possible. All the rest is irrelevant to them.

They all see in Trump a chance to capture the vote of the people that would naturally want free public healthcare, better schools, more rights for minorities and more corporation taxes by selling some weird idea of liberty - while the fact is that it was inflation the main mobilisation of these social groups. If someone falls out of favour with Trump... money dries.

I do not think Zelensky is devastated just yet, he like most people need to figure out what is going to be the cost of having Trump as president, but notice that Biden could have provided decisive aid, the type that would have ended the war in good terms for Ukraine and he did not. What is the point of keep sending Ukrainians to the front if there is no Victory plan?

I am not a blind follower of idols, I judge on results. I think Trump will force concessions but it is about what is that level of concessions. Is Ukraine going to be a viable country, able to join the EU? Is it going to get any guarantee whatsoever that something like the Ruzzian invasion would not happen again? The first is needed for peace, the second is needed for a lasting peace.

Zelensky suggested that US troops in Europe could be replaced by Ukrainian contingents so the cost of keeping the Ukrainian army is passed to EU / Europe. I think the idea is quite ridiculous, but there is not objection from my side to have EU paying Zelensky to have a good sized and modern military in Ukraine.

Ukraine is unlikely to turn against Europe, as that would probably give Ruzzia yet another opportunity to take the country and at the same time would benefit from EU funding and goodwill. Also, it would create an army that is fed from Europe and less likely to accept the installation of a Putin's puppet in the government.
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