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November 08, 2024, 08:38:30 PM |
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If that is really happen, many people will be happy because we can make a big profit. After that, we will have the opportunity to accumulates more Bitcoin especially if we have the chance to buy back at the lowest price. If Bitcoin will not grow for a long time after the super Bull cycle, that will be a good time for us to accumulate and will not let the chance leave us without taking the benefits for us. If Bitcoin is no longer be in 1 cycle, that will be additional time for us to use that chance to accumulate as many Bitcoin that we can. We have the previous profit so we can use that to buy Bitcoin at the lower price.
At that point, if all what OP is talking about becomes reality, you won't even think about that big profit of yours. I don't think bitcoin will be accepted as reserve currency, but if it does, you have to think beyond simple market profit. It will be about something else, like owning a completely secure asset that countries vouch for, that you can fit on a single piece of paper, or a secured sd card, hidden in your shoe. You get something accepted all around the world, stable, unconfiscatable, something you can fit unlimited value into. Will you ever sell that thing? People often say that if it goes parabolic again they'll sell and be rich, but what if you're already rich and it goes parabolic? Think of the people who own 20 BTC now. Do you think they'll say -fuck bitcoin i'm rich now, let's go 100% fiat? That's where the real shift will happen and a real supply squeeze that people like Saylor are talking about. There's not enough for everyone.
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EL MOHA
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November 08, 2024, 08:43:44 PM |
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I’d consider this, especially since it seems like we’re all leaning bullish right now. It’s good to keep in mind that there’s always another possible outcome. I’m not saying we’re headed into a full bear market, what I mean is that it might dip a bit first before we see that super bullish run we’re all expecting. Right now, it looks like Bitcoin is still struggling to break out, so we need to stay prepared.
I don’t thinks it’s us leaning towards the bullish trend just because of some circumstances of recents but rather the market it self has presented itself as such, it was in a little correction trend throughout almost the entire third quarter so that’s a reason worth pointing that the last quarter of an halving year which historically is always bullish will also be this time around. But regardless of that the market might still get dips a little bit as correct to push up more, anyone will definitely know this but if you’re a long term trader this isn’t a thing to worry about We’ve got all that positive news already, but the impact is still far off - just like with Trump, he hasn’t even assumed office yet; that’s next year. So, the upcoming month is pretty crucial, and we’ll just have to see how the market reacts.
People are actually just leaning towards the fact that bitcoin super bullish cycle is dependent on the policy that Trump will take or make comes next but i usually tell people the only thing bitcoin follows his its historical trend and next been a year after halving is going to be supper bullish for bitcoin price, the other cases like Trump policies will only be a catalyst to add momentum to pump it or cause a little dip bit the year is going to be bullish
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November 08, 2024, 09:02:59 PM |
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In my opinion, Bitcoin is an ideal reserve asset. Sooner or later, such a decision will be made.
Bitcoin will become the main part of the gold and foreign exchange reserves of Central Banks, because following the USA, all countries will start creating such reserves. There are about 200 countries in the world, so you can imagine what the demand for the first cryptocurrency will be.
Bitcoin will acquire a status value - the more Bitcoin a particular country accumulates, the greater the status of this country in the geopolitical arena.
Bitcoin's transparent blockchain, its limited supply, the deflationary nature of this asset, its worldwide fame - all this will make digital gold the most valuable asset in world history.
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November 08, 2024, 09:49:57 PM |
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Those are speculations. Trump is not yet a president, and the bill can change. I don't even think to take a campaign promise seriously. However, it will be good if he delivers his promises. And about Microstrategy's plan to raise money to buy Bitcoin, i have no doubt coz we have seen how loyal Saylor is. This will also help to push the price of Bitcoin higher as the more money goes into circulation.
He won the election so which one are you talking about trump not been able to pass those bill we know the kind of person that trump is, no matter how bad it is trump will make sure that what ever promise he has made during the election their is no way that trump will not make it come to pass and he would not want to disappoint after he has made people believe in him and failing them will be very bad if him and the he took a lot of things personal should that the police's trump will come with is going to be good. I love trump and so is a lot of people and the fact that trump is funny and a lot of people love him so their is no any other choice that trump will not make people happy it won't work I have see a lot of problems he made so we should be ready for a better American, and we're this whole thing makes sense is when the election was ongoing the price went up that is to show thay somthing positive is going to happen in bitcoin and people are even expecting 150k from the market.
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November 08, 2024, 09:50:42 PM |
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We say it’s going to be a super cycle every time but really we haven’t had one since the 2012 bull market. You could say hitting $20,000 in 2017 was a super cycle I guess but the last bull cycle wasn’t that’s for sure. We only went 3.5 x the 2017 bull market top to hit $69,000 in 2021. What would we define as a super cycle this time? Due to the amount of money required to move the market these days, maybe anything over $300,000 as a cycle top in 2025 could be classified as a super bull cycle.
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November 08, 2024, 09:57:08 PM |
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Those are speculations. Trump is not yet a president, and the bill can change. I don't even think to take a campaign promise seriously. However, it will be good if he delivers his promises. And about Microstrategy's plan to raise money to buy Bitcoin, i have no doubt coz we have seen how loyal Saylor is. This will also help to push the price of Bitcoin higher as the more money goes into circulation.
If there is actually anything someone choose learn not to hold at heart then it's definitely the promises of a politician campaigning for a particular posts which on so many occasions on different scenarios and place have all turned out negative although we the Bitcoin community are still optimistic about Donald trump's approach if anything like what you said a lot can change if the man is sworn in so let's be positive and pray he does stick to his plan.
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November 09, 2024, 01:34:20 AM |
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the institutional investors just can't stop buying huh? well it's to be expected, BTC ETF is the most popular ETF literally dominating the market, no wonder these companies are buying btc by the billions again and again, reflect how strong BTC actually is.
we will definitely see $80k maybe at the end of this month if not delayed, this institutional investors buying could easily sweep all liquidity, leaving us with smooth path to go up. I like the fact that michael saylor also so bullish BTC going as far as declaring that he won't sell his BTC, clearing any doubt.
these information if put together, just as you said, obvious sign of super bull cycle.
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November 09, 2024, 04:13:04 AM |
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We would need to define what a "supercycle" actually is:
- a longer bullish cycle than normal without a really bearish phase? - or a bullish cycle with higher percentual growth?
The first option could of course eventually happen. My take on that is that if Bitcoin ETFs and similar products become more popular over time, "dip fishers" could become active earlier, trying to buy into Bitcoin when prices lower even 15% or less. The same thing could happen if governments accumulate coins, although it is perhaps not that easy in a big country like the US compared to El Salvador where it seemed Bukele himself took the decisions to "buy the dips".
The problem is if accumulation by strong financial actors is actually the only reason for growth without larger-scale adoption, then a problem could emerge if one of these big new whales changed their mind and sold massively to take profits. The more bullish the market is, the bigger the temptation for a government to exit before a larger crash happens.
This is actually also the reason why I think that while it's possible that a Trump-led administration buys a small Bitcoin reserve (or at least doesn't sell seized coins), I believe there won't be enough trust in the long-term sustainability of a "supercycle" if Bitcoin continues to be a speculative and highly volatile asset like now.
If the Supercycle instead is driven by broader (i.e. also by smaller actors and more different use cases, mostly "use as a currency") and more international adoption, then it could become more sustainable, and in this cases I also expect governments to eye Bitcoin with more interest.
The second option, a cycle with a higher percentual growth than the 2018-21 cycle (i.e. more than 200% from ATH to ATH, this would roughly mean > $200,000 is in my opinion also possible, above all if people dream of a "gold flippening", but it would probably mean more volatility, and thus be driven mostly by private investors and weaker hands, while governments won't trust it massively. It would probably led into an epic crash and bear market like we're accustomed to (i.e. again >75% loss).
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November 09, 2024, 07:05:38 AM |
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I think we all will think the same where we also know that the cycle after halving is always like that, so it is not surprising to see the bitcoin market bullish in 2025, because a year after halving the bitcoin price always does the same thing as in previous years, every 4 years the cycle occurs but this news can also be another small reason to push the bitcoin price up in the following year. 
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November 09, 2024, 07:45:59 AM |
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My thought: Looking at these key factors over the coming years, And the Institutional adoption and their continuing in buying of Bitcoin through ETFs. Secondly, other individual countries may follow suit, and looking at the fact the direction that the US government has taken in adding Bitcoin to their reserve and may start Buying Bitcoin to add into their various reserve portfolios. This way, Bitcoin won't have a breathing space going forward when such demand will be taking place other than to experience a significant rise in its price since the demand is on steady increase, coupled with a reduction in supply. Yes Bitcoin can shift to a super cycle because everything happening has now being very positive to the growth of Bitcoin. The US adding Bitcoin to its reserve then that will be the start of something extraordinary for Bitcoin because everybody will then have a different approach to Bitcoin and we will begin to see new investors adding to the market and the institutional investors will begin to dominate the market. Bitcoin market is still new to many people therefore they have not made a decision yet to invest but with everything you have said happening, we are going to get everybody become optimistic and the price for Bitcoin is going to increase more. I always habe this thought that Bitcoin is going to suprise us all in this bull market.
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November 09, 2024, 07:57:45 AM |
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Re: Bitcoin could shift to a super Bull cycle. The reasons that you shared might be the catalyst towards something that we didn't see ever since, a super bull cycle. I'm excited to see how the market will be during a super bull cycle. I mean I've seen the 2021 bull run already, and the 2017 bull run as well. As for a market that's considered "UNPREDICTABLE", I want to see something that didn't happen before. The new ATH before the Bitcoin-halving event is one that nobody's expected to happen at that time. TBH, it's hard to define what's a super bull cycle. Correct me, but bull run lasts for around 6 months only (more or less). If the bull run lasts for even longer than that (around 9 months or even more), can we consider that as a super bull cycle already? I always believe that it's kind of subjective because some might see it as a bull run while some might not. Whatever the case is, the factors that the OP has shared might be the reason for the price of Bitcoin to go up and could start the bull run. On the flip side, this might take a long time before it happens. Bitcoin as a strategic reserve asset? Hmmm, I don't know if that would benefit us Bitcoin holders.
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Secondly, other individual countries may follow suit, and looking at the fact the direction that the US government has taken in adding Bitcoin to their reserve and may start Buying Bitcoin to add into their various reserve portfolios. This way, Bitcoin won't have a breathing space going forward when such demand will be taking place other than to experience a significant rise in its price since the demand is on steady increase, coupled with a reduction in supply.
These are pure speculations, but if trumps eventually takes actions by implementing certain things to favour bitcoin, i think other none bitcoin countries might also want to follow such steps, and i hope my country joins the train. Seeing my country not fully involved in the whole bitcoin thing is quite disappointing, though some of the citizens are fully into the game. And as for the bullish movement, i don't know how effective MicroStrategy's actions would be, because the whole bullish movement seems to be centered around Trump for the now. Hitting new ATH several times in few days shows how influential he his. It's not a new thing anymore that the majority of African countries and some countries in other continents are looking up to the United States in so many things. I won't be surprised that whatever actions the US takes on Bitcoin, other countries will follow suit. The aspect of what Trump would do could be considered more to be speculation but the action of other countries following the US is not a speculation. It's something that is bound to happen. The US is a world power, people do pay attention to who will be their leader. Because if they have a bad leader, it will affect a lot of other countries. Microstrategy is getting big that it has a huge upward action on Bitcoin and the big boys in the market love the action on Microstrategy. IMO, the influence of the market is as a result of both Trump and the MSTR
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While I do agree that all of these would matter, if it was a bear period then nobody would have any type of problem so we should be considering this current situation so what we have at the moment will not matter all that much, as long as it's a bull cycle then it's a bull cycle and that is the most important part. All these news do not lead to a bull run, it is not how that works, bull run happens because people buy and right now we are on the verge of situation and could be very true.
We could definitely see such a situation happen soon as well, because the reality is we are on the long run and it could very well be something that could benefit us at a long time. Super bull cycle happens because of halving and this should be increasing and that shouldn't really be considering anything different, 2024 will end better and 2025 should make it a lot better in the end as well. This is because every one ends this way on the long term without a trouble.
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The expected cycle means that some of the factors mentioned by the OP could become a reality - but it will take some time for the law to be passed by the government. I've seen a lot of optimism so far about Bitcoin's better future - but that's normal regardless of the reasons. What is certain - we are in a bullish cycle at the moment where an upward trend in prices tends to occur instead of a downward trend, even the accumulation phase has passed.
I'm also personally optimistic about bitcoin's future - but not entirely convinced by what the government has promised so far. If they really wanted to legalize bitcoin as a state reserve asset, not just gold - then in fact, bitcoin would really exceed all our expectations.
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Above all that its probably more important that the Dollar index is trending below 100. That was a key move in the summer of 2020, when we lost that measure it took a couple months but really moved BTC in the autumn of that year with further development the next year and for some time after.
I think we are very positive now able to trend upwards but the sharper gradient and larger moves that people might remember previously happening, I see that occurring after some development. First of all, a back track of some kind to test the 69k old ATH break and that could be a story for this year with a bigger move in 2025 once support is fully confirming above 69k and the old 70k prices that had been the ceiling in this year prior.
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I am even surprise for the massive pump of Bitcoin today surpassing its previous ATHs and giving a new ATH of $82, 600, what!!? Yet, the market doesn't seem like it's going to retard anytime soon. With how the market is moving lately, we are heading to $90k sooner.
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November 10, 2024, 06:49:46 PM |
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Everyone is waiting for this moment for the super cycle to arrive, if they call the super cycle that every 4 years bitcoin goes up, but it is going up so we are in pre-super cycle because now that Donald Trump won the super cycle could have been brought forward, as they say out there, Christmas came early, the effects of this are very good, the USA is the country that is very influential or the most influential in the world, what happens there has an effect or an echo worldwide, if investors see improvements in acceptance in the USA, they open bitcoin transactions as it is, we are in the future, if the super cycle for me has already started.
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November 10, 2024, 07:02:03 PM |
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Your point are quite understandable and I believe it's possible. I can vouch for Michael Saylors $42b capital bitcoin purchase, but I can't vouch for Trump hence we are still waiting for his action even though that bitcoin price experience a sudden increase due to his victory. Though I believe his dream but until I see a result before I can say his proposal will shift bitcoin to a super bul cycle. Under the proposal, bitcoin would be established as a strategic reserve asset and the government could buy up to 5% of the cryptocurrency's total supply, the report said.
I think government could buy up %5 of total bitcoin In supply and not cryptocurrency. because using the word cryptocurrency makes it not to have a direction or porpos. If they could buy up that amount fine. The main porpos isto creat scarcity and skyrocket bitcoin since Michael Saylors has almost %2 f not more of bitcoin total supply. I also heard some groups of Chinese firm want to emback on thesame journey. well let's hope for better bitcoin growth.
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Those are speculations. Trump is not yet a president, and the bill can change. I don't even think to take a campaign promise seriously. However, it will be good if he delivers his promises. And about Microstrategy's plan to raise money to buy Bitcoin, i have no doubt coz we have seen how loyal Saylor is. This will also help to push the price of Bitcoin higher as the more money goes into circulation.
As for me, I tried as much as possible to look away from every campaign promises and for no just reason I never take any of the promises as the basis of the current Bitcoin market price increase this is because after the last all time high Bitcoin market movement, there was a lot of speculations around the price of Bitcoin and for some reason alot of us played the low key positive Outlook for Bitcoin with in this period in speculation. But reality check on Bitcoin performance have suggested and pointed to an otherwise direction for all of us in this space, and also will miss out in the current market trends which is somewhat on a positive trend right now. Bitcoin will run up for multiple all time price within this period of time and untill we touch the 80k benchmark Bitcoin won't slow down from the current market hype's.
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Everyone is waiting for this moment for the super cycle to arrive, if they call the super cycle that every 4 years bitcoin goes up, but it is going up so we are in pre-super cycle because now that Donald Trump won the super cycle could have been brought forward, as they say out there, Christmas came early, the effects of this are very good, the USA is the country that is very influential or the most influential in the world, what happens there has an effect or an echo worldwide, if investors see improvements in acceptance in the USA, they open bitcoin transactions as it is, we are in the future, if the super cycle for me has already started.
This is possible, but we never really know how high Bitcoin can go during a bull run. Right now, Bitcoin is trading at $81k, and if the bullish trend continues, hitting $100k is very possible. Investor confidence is on another level during a bull run compared to regular or bearish markets, it’s like everything just feels easier. If we look at the price now, $100k seems well within reach, and I believe that once it hits $100k, we’ll be eyeing $200k next, and so on. The more bullish the market becomes, the more optimistic investors get with their targets.
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